History Fridge / TheWizardOfOz

8th Jul '16 4:02:09 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Also, if you've read the book (like this troper has) you'll realize that possibly in the movie, Dorothy wasn't in any real danger as well. In the book, The Good Witch of the North in Munchkinland kisses Dorothy on the forehead, thus casting a charm spell of protection on Dorothy. If you watch the movie & watch carefully, Glinda The Good Witch On The North, after she says, "....the sooner you get out of Oz, the safer you'll sleep, my dear..." she kisses Dorothy's forehead. This may be a CallBack to the book, which folks in 1939 may have been more familiar with. Thus the whole cynical, postmodern "Glinda was the real villain/Why would Glinda put Dorothy through all this crap to begin with?" is really silly. Glinda was like a Zen Master, Guru or TheObiWan, she wanted Dorothy to figure out the lesson by herself & save the Land Of Oz in the process. Real character-building!

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*** Also, if you've read the book (like this troper has) you'll realize that possibly in the movie, Dorothy wasn't in any real danger as well. In the book, The Good Witch of the North in Munchkinland kisses Dorothy on the forehead, thus casting a charm spell of protection on Dorothy. If you watch the movie & watch carefully, Glinda The Good Witch On The North, after she says, "....the sooner you get out of Oz, the safer you'll sleep, my dear..." she kisses Dorothy's forehead. This may be a CallBack to the book, which folks in 1939 may have been more familiar with. Thus the whole cynical, postmodern "Glinda was the real villain/Why would Glinda put Dorothy through all this crap to begin with?" is really silly. Glinda was like a Zen Master, Guru or TheObiWan, TheMentor, she wanted Dorothy to figure out the lesson by herself & save the Land Of Oz in the process. Real character-building!
7th Jul '16 6:13:45 AM Morgenthaler
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** For heavens sake! Glinda isn't a VillainWithGoodPublicity! She should be in the FridgeBrilliance section because she is the [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan Kenobi]]/Master Yoda of the Land Of Oz! She never did anything malicious or sinister! Also, the quest she sent Dorothy and her friends was ''not'' pointless. Dorothy needed to undertake it in order to unlock the power of the Ruby Slippers. Glinda was just Dorothy's ''teacher''. She's just very ''very'' subtle about it, that's all.

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** For heavens sake! Glinda isn't a VillainWithGoodPublicity! She should be in the FridgeBrilliance section because she is the [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan Kenobi]]/Master Kenobi/Master Yoda of the Land Of Oz! She never did anything malicious or sinister! Also, the quest she sent Dorothy and her friends was ''not'' pointless. Dorothy needed to undertake it in order to unlock the power of the Ruby Slippers. Glinda was just Dorothy's ''teacher''. She's just very ''very'' subtle about it, that's all.
2nd Jun '16 9:35:38 AM case
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* Scarecrow's "brainy" statement when he gets his diploma: "the sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side." This is incorrect mathematically (should say a right triangle, and should be "square" rather than "square root") and I always assumed it was writer error. However, it is made clear that the Scarecrow was already intelligent and the diploma did not change anything other than his confidence. And his intelligence does not come from book-learning or schooling of any kind, so he wouldn't know the correct formula. He just said it to FEEL smart. The other explanation is that the whole story is Dorothy's dream, and she's the one who got the math wrong, being a kid and all.

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* Scarecrow's "brainy" statement when he gets his diploma: "the sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side." This is incorrect mathematically (should say a right triangle, and should be "square" rather than "square root") root", and "any two sides" isn't correct as the remaining side has to be the one opposite the right angle) and I always assumed it was writer error. However, it is made clear that the Scarecrow was already intelligent and the diploma did not change anything other than his confidence. And his intelligence does not come from book-learning or schooling of any kind, so he wouldn't know the correct formula. He just said it to FEEL smart. The other explanation is that the whole story is Dorothy's dream, and she's the one who got the math wrong, being a kid and all.
23rd Jan '16 6:26:07 PM 4power4
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** Dorothy in her dream only accidentally killed the witch, so it most likely wasn't "in cold blood".

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** Dorothy in her dream only accidentally killed the witch, so it most likely wasn't "in cold blood".blood".
* The Talking Tree scene becomes a little more horrifying when you think about it from the standpoint of the trees. They are trapped in place, unable to move, and every now and then, people come along to snatch off pieces of their body and eat them. What makes it even more terrifying is that since apples carry seeds, the trees are forced to watch people steal and eat their BABIES.
16th Jan '16 2:46:44 AM 4power4
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** The Witch didn't bring the trees to life. She was only spying on them when she was hiding behind the tree.

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** The Witch didn't bring the trees to life. She was only spying on them when she was hiding behind the tree. From the Scarecrow's "I'll show you how to get apples" line, it seems this is the normal way of getting apples in Oz.
16th Jan '16 2:43:23 AM 4power4
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** The Witch didn't bring the trees to life. She was only spying on them when she was hiding behind the tree.
18th Nov '15 12:31:04 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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** Some parts of the first comment are ''kind of'' correct (taking the slippers from the WWoW, for instance), but nobody, not even Glinda, knew the Wizard of Oz was a conman. Glinda genuinely believed he could get Dorothy back home.
6th Aug '15 12:59:58 PM Elkhound
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** Are all trees that way, or just some? Only those apple trees and some of the trees in the forest around the Witch's Castle seem to be.
9th Jul '15 7:19:52 PM Adept
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* If the [[OzTheGreatAndPowerful 2013 film]] is apart of the same continuity as this film then it puts the Wicked Witch of the West into a whole new (and very tragic) perspective. To think that the cruel and vindictive Witch was once sweet and gentle Theodora, who was lied to and used by her sister. Also, considering how kind she is and the fact that she already felt bad about killing her, it almost makes you glad that poor sweet Dorothy never learned of the witches past and eventual turn to darkness.

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* If the [[OzTheGreatAndPowerful [[Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful 2013 film]] is apart of the same continuity as this film then it puts the Wicked Witch of the West into a whole new (and very tragic) perspective. To think that the cruel and vindictive Witch was once sweet and gentle Theodora, who was lied to and used by her sister. Also, considering how kind she is and the fact that she already felt bad about killing her, it almost makes you glad that poor sweet Dorothy never learned of the witches past and eventual turn to darkness.
21st May '15 7:17:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* When I was a kid, I always wondered why the Witch expected Dorothy to surrender just because she demanded it via skywriting. As an adult, I realized that [[EatsShootsAndLeaves the message wasn't "Surrender, Dorothy" but "Surrender Dorothy"]]--she was demanding that the residents of Emerald City hand over the girl, with an implied threat should they not deliver. Dorothy was a stranger to the city, but they all knew how powerful and dangerous the Witch was.

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* When I was a kid, I always wondered why the Witch expected Dorothy to surrender just because she demanded it via skywriting. As an adult, I realized that [[EatsShootsAndLeaves [[Literature/EatsShootsAndLeaves the message wasn't "Surrender, Dorothy" but "Surrender Dorothy"]]--she was demanding that the residents of Emerald City hand over the girl, with an implied threat should they not deliver. Dorothy was a stranger to the city, but they all knew how powerful and dangerous the Witch was.
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