History Fridge / TeenTitans

** While you are correct about the plethora of reasons ''not'' to like Tamaraneans -- a NobleSavage ProudWarriorRace driven exclusively by emotion (which would realistically imply war whenever they ''feel'' like it, and judging from other examples from history, war would probably be the smallest problem in their "[[RapePillageAndBurn foreign policy]]", ignoring the fact that they're also a species of {{Flying Brick}}s) -- the episode itself ''really'' wants to be about Racism, so it's only fair to point out that the concept of the Tamaraneans ''itself'' is racist. The NobleSavage trope is an inherently racist concept, even if you emphasize the "Noble" by portraying the Tamaraneans as victims of folks even nastier than them and have their Savage aspects PlayedForLaughs. The fact that the episode reduces this to a matter of skin-deep bigotry (because [[SarcasmMode no one could ever have a legitimately negative opinion]] of a ProudWarriorRace) is also grossly condescending to both the audience and the cultures on which Tamaraneans are based. Which is all to say, there's a strange and almost metafictional irony about a racist stereotype complaining of racism, and it's not in the show's favor.

** Furthermore, why is it Kid Flash that manages to reason with Jinx and convince her that she has other options? In the comics, The Flash family (Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen) are friendly, good natured guys who are just as likely to ''talk down'' their RoguesGallery than fight them, and even convinces at least one to make a HeelFaceTurn. [[WorthyOpponent As a result, most of their enemies]] [[FriendlyEnemy have a great deal of respect for whoever takes up the mantle.]] It may not occur to most of the Titans to just have a talk with their enemies (VERY {{Justified}} in Robin's case, seeing what Batman deals with), but it's standard practice with The Flash.

* Also, let's put "Troq" into some context here, all woes about "racism" aside (''speciesism'' I believe is the closest human "term" here but whatev) but there probably is a very good reason for Val-Yor to not necessarily be in love with Starfire's race. Tamaraneans have been shown, in the show at the very least, as being brutal, low-tech, vaguely cannibalistic predators with with a warlike nature and desolate homeworld. They can vaporize you by looking angry in your direction and tear you in half for sport, have teeth that look like shattered glass and (in the same episode we see ALL these traits) they are shown to ''eat their prey alive''. So I'm gonna' go out on a limb and assume the interstellar capable, warlike, bestial, cannibalistic race of superhuman warriors probably, theoretically, just ''maybe'' caused some problems for literally every other species in their vicinity as soon as they gained the capacity to travel faster than light. [[MassEffect Krogan]] warbands look at these guys and go, "Wow, orange dudes, your chicks are hot but holy shit settle down a little with the flesh tearing and eating sentient creatures alive! Also, '''wow your chicks are hot''', how did that happen? You dudes ever met the Asari?" We have no idea why Val-Yor feels Starfire is bad or dislikes Tamaraneans, but people don't just "hate" each other for no reason. And considering how the rest of her race is, and how '''she''' was before meeting the other Titans, and that her entire race has displayed nothing other than being warlike brutes who, and I should mention this, ''eat animals alive holy Christ!'', or her sister who was a sociopathic murderer and narcissist (but predictably hot, as per Tamaranean standards apparently) I'm sorry I'll just take it as read until shown evidence otherwise that while Val-Yor was wrong to judge THIS Tamaranean, his opinion on Tamaraneans in general is probably overly generous.

* Blackfire didn't join the Brotherhood of Evil, but when you think about it there are hints she has met them-and declined their offer:

** When Starfire confronts her sister about the incident above, Blackfire ''denies'' having helped her while also admitting she knew Madame Rouge (and describing her as a "shifty shapeshifter"). Considering that, once caught, Blackfire stops lying about her schemes and [[EvilGloating starts gloating]], they must have met when the Brotherhood tried to recruit Blackfire and failed-And Madame Rouge, a much more experienced manipulator than Blackfire, still got some useful information.

** Why did Blackfire not join the Brotherhood? Two reasons: first, she wouldn't have been in charge, something she wasn't willing to tolerate (whenever she appears as part of a group she's their leader); second, it was the Brotherhood of Evil, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards Blackfire's standards]] are too good to join such {{Card-Carrying Villain}}s.

* In "The End," Slade tells the remnant Titans that only one of them is allowed to accompany him to find Raven, and the other three have to hold Trigon's attention because his mind can be anywhere, at any time. Slade has shown time and time again that he is well-informed, smart, and ruthlessly self-interested. He knows that Trigon could be nearby at that very moment, listening to him explain the plan, so he knows that Trigon won't be distracted and he doesn't mention that his goal is to regain his body. Instead, he manipulates exactly one Titan into going with him: enough to provide a believable cover story for his real mission, but not so many that they could prevent his escape (should one become necessary) and protect Raven at the same time.

** To throw in a bit of FridgeHorror, it's likely that if Raven ''hadn't'' been raised by monks who were able to teach her to control her power, she'd have ended up ''just like'' Terra- lost, confused, unable to control powerfully destructive abilities at all, and easy prey for serious temptation the first time it presents itself.

** Easy: Cyborg's dad could likely be giving them some money. I don't know if Batman would be given his ward some money here and there, but Cyborg has a scientist dad. Plus they could easily do things like advertising and the like. Plus with the school thing; Robin was likely homeschooled by Batman, Beast Boy was the same with the Doom PAtrol, Starfire was given an education by her tutors when she was still a princes and Raven could have taken lessons with the monks of Azarath. Cyborg is likely the eldest of the team, so he could have already graduated.

* Beast Boy brilliance; Why are his prehistoric forms so inaccurate? Because his shifting relies on him having a good idea of what the animal he's shifting into looks like. Since it's unlikely that he's ever seen a real dinosaur (not counting birds), he would have to base dinosaur/pterosaur shifting off of any portrayal he has actually seen. And since he's a nerdy movie buff, chances are [[Franchise/JurassicPark those portrayals aren't from books or documentaries]].

** Robin is a "modern jock", a skateboarder/daredevil kind of alpha male teen (Though without the moral apathy).

*** How? If I recall, they have an HQ in space. surely not everyone was on earth at the exact same moment. And what about the Green Lantern corps? I know that this part of the universe has it's own Green Lantern, but surely they knew that a world ending deity had just emerged from earth and had already incapacitated one GL if that were that case. Shouldn't they have at least closed it off so the demons couldn't escape, since they weren't going to help earth? That's the problem with universes like Marvel and DC. Why doesn't the Justice League help the Titans? Why does Spiderman have to save the world on his own if the Avengers AND the Fantastic Four are literally just a block away? etc.

* Uh... How in the name of sanity did the "Computer Virus," that made Cyborg think everything was food work? It can apparently be downloaded onto a disc, be uploaded to someone... but also is a nanite infection, is spread by touching other machines, and can be transmitted via transmitter. That's not a virus, that's magic. A COMPUTER VIRUS AND A NANITE INFESTATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Yet the episode treats them like both.

* Beast Boy's voice actor Greg Cipes is also a real life vegan just like his character. Imagine how much it hurt him in the episode ''The Beast Within'' when Beast Boy declared that "Real Men Don't Eat Tofu"
** Actors, including of the voice variety, do stuff like that all the time. It's called 'committing to the role'.

** Speaking of "Troq," I knew many people who thought of, when asked if he faced prejudice, Cyborg saying that he was "Half Robot" as a cop-out from saying that he was black. However, when thinking about it, race isn't the only source of discrimination as what Cyborg could've been referencing is that the handicapped (physically disabled people, amputees), which he's technically a part of, are often discriminated against as well. So it wasn't Cyborg copping out of referencing himself as part of the more-expected minority group rather than referencing a more-overlooked one. - Tropers/{{LLSmoothJ}}

** For Robin, "They've got the bad guys on the run, they never stop until the job is done" is sung. The latter part hints at the lengths to which Robin will go, particularily against Slade.

* The episode "Betrayal" in season 2. Now, if you've watched it, you've probably made the notion of how it's named after Terra's betrayal to the titans, when, in fact,'' it's also the other way around.'' Throughout the entire episode, Terra looked as if she was regretting her actios on betraying the Titans, and after taking Beast Boy out on a date to get him away from Slade's attack, she asks him a very important question. If she did something horrible, would Beast Boy still be her friend? Beast Boy answers this question yes and when Slade shows up and lets Beast Boy in on the whole thing, he turns his back on Terra. Terra betrayed the Titans, yes, but Beast Boy betrayed her as well. Had he kept his promise, things might've turned out incredibly differently.

** Beast Boy is a traditional class clown who tries too hard to be likeable, but still just makes it work.

*** Nitpicking: among the various superheroes who can somehow hurt Trigon (either through power or through tricks), Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Zatanna, Flash (Barry Allen, at the time), the original Green Lantern, Captain Marvel and Batman are usually on Earth, and would have been turned to stone. Among the guys with sufficient firepower to hit Trigon and more likely to not be in the way were the Green Lanterns... Who most likely called Oa, New Genesis, Apokolyps, and Sinestro and Lobo's speedcalls for reinforcements. Simply Trigon was dealth with before the assembled reinforcements could jump Trigon (incidentally leading to Darkseid staying the hell out of the way until he finds out ''how'' it happened for fear that whoever defeated Trigon comes for him).

** OR, perhaps the glowing is stronger than before. It could've been an indicator of Trigon's arrival, or that the glowing intesifies around Trigon-related sources of power. Slade was one guy, but when the marks shone through her sleeves, they were at a temple ''devoted'' to her antler-faced father...

** I think she had different kinds of pies- there was the one she was [[SealedEvilInACan trapped in]] at the beginning, the ones she fed ''to'' the Titans which were laced with the magical equivalent of will-supressing drugs, and finally the big pie she wanted to bake the Titans into and presumably eat herself. I got the impression that the pies the Titans ate were fairly normal, apart from the evil magic.

* A rather interesting one involves Slade. The character is a disturbingly effective manipulator, who can make you think he has your best interests at heart, before turning on you like the monster he is. The Fridge Horror is the fact that he kind of does this to the ''audience of the show.'' Think about it: When he first shows up, Slade is just the creepy ''ChessMaster'', hidden in the shadows. He's actually a pretty cool character, especially for those who enjoy mysterious villains. His costume looks pretty cool, he's impressive in a fight, and his voice is chilling. He's a very cool villian. You start to wonder what his goals are, he's really like. And then you find out. Obsessive. Stalkerish. Controlling. Manipulative. ''ABUSIVE''. '''Murderous.''' He goes from being the creepy guy in the shadows, to the guy obsessed with controlling the hero, to a near pedophillic character who beats defenseless children, and who WILL NOT DIE. Terrifying.

* [[GodOfEvil Trigon's]] entire plan for ressurection is completely dependent on Raven not dying. Had she, there was no back-up plan, and he would be permanently stuck under the Earth.

** A couple issues with that theory, though: First, when he attacks Raven in "Birthmark", a super-powered Slade mentions flesh becoming stone like it was part of the prophecy. Secondly, Trigon told her a couple times that the only reason she exists is to release him. She pleaded with him like an emotionally fatigued daughter would her stern father, and he basically said, "too bad, so sad". Third, allowing the Titans to live was more an agreement with Slade (when they were trying to protect her), and that was pretty much to move things along. Remember, Raven had accepted her role as inevitable and wanted to spare the only four people who cared about her the pain of a losing battle. Lastly, Trigon is supremely arrogant. The Titans throw everything they have at him, and the damage is negligable. So what if four or (with Slade) five mortals still roam the Earth? So what if his "Gem" is still alive? What can they possibly do? [[BreakTheHaughty Oh, wait...]]

* Slade's choice of a SupervillainLair in season 2 was really stupid, if you think about it. First, he builds it on a volcano. Alright, evil lairs on volcanos are cool, and it might not be an active volcano, but then he procceeds to bring into that lair a girl with earth manipulation powers, who CANNOT CONTROL THOSE POWERS VERY WELL, and train her there. Then he starts using the place as mission control, and also as a place to beat her up if she failed him, which is totally a good idea because if she ever tries to kill him she has a godamn volcano below them that she can use. Really, Slade?

* Beast Boy's voice actor Greg Cipes is also a real life vegan just like his character. Imagine how much it hurt him in the episode ''The Beast Within'' when Beast Boy declared that "Real Men Don't Eat Tofu"
** Actors, including of the voice variety, do stuff like that all the time. It's called 'committing to the role'.

** Raven sucking Doctor Light under her cloak using magic shadows; when he's pulled out at the last second, his face is ash white and all he can do is curl in a ball and say, "So dark. Make it stop. Please, make it stop." The fact that in a later episode, all she had to do was snarl at him and he immediately went into Terrified Surrender Mode doesn't ease the imagination of what might have happened under that cloak.
*** Raven was gripping him ''with tentacles.'' Think about that.
*** And don't forget, any appearance of Doctor Light is now incredibly creepy after he was revealed in comics to be a psychotic rapist who was mind-whammied into the dopey, harmless Light we're more familiar with. And remember that he recovered from the mind-whammy in the comics...
*** Horrific Realization: Raven might have seen the damage to Doctor Light's mind and [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil the reason for his partial lobotomy]] when she was [[MindRape [=Mind Raping=] ]] him.
*** Given how maligned the rapist retcon was, Doctor Light in the Teen Titans cartoon is probably [[IneffectiveSympatheticVillian a great deal less squicky than his comics counterpart]]. Which makes what he endured here even ''worse.''
** In "Birthmark", pretty much the entire city, frozen in time mind you, becomes Raven's weapon. She used two buildings and numerous cars to try to crush Slade, who had superpowers at the time and survived unscathed. All the cars came from the middle of the street and presumably had people inside them.
*** The amount of collateral property damage (if not the number of actual people hurt) is quite staggering for a children's show. At the episode "The End - Part1", Cyborg uses huge building to hit Plasmus through more buildings, knocking him out... for a few seconds.
** And then there's the episode where spores from Slade's mask causes Robin to have night terrors that actually harm him as if it were real. Can you imagine what would have happened if no one had been around to help him? NightmareFuel indeed.
** Slade laser-injects nanobots into the Titans in season one. Think about it. Thousands of nigh invisible robots floating around in your body, possibly for decades. And what Slade wanted to use them for is a whole other can of NightmareFuel.
** Did anyone mention that Raven is actually reincarnated several times, and she isn't a teenager but a grown woman who just so happens to look like a teenaged girl? According to that other wiki, but still...
*** Pretty sure that's comics-only (where all the Titans are at least somewhat older). I don't think there's any indication that Raven in the show is anything but the teenager she appears to be (or whatever the teen-equivalent for quasi-divine half-demons is).

Of course, this might just be [[TinyTitans Tiny Titans]] Trigon coloring my perceptions...

* The Titans, as far as power levels go, aren't as strong as the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, aren't as experienced as the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica, and even some lineups of ComicBook/DoomPatrol could probably overpower them. But when the Titans do have to go up against any of them, they end up holding their own. The Titans have a degree of ''teamwork'' and loyalty to one another that will put every other hero team to shame, as aptly shown when Nightwing called ''every living past and present'' Titan to show up in a fight against Dr. Light.

* The Titans, as far as power levels go, aren't as strong as the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, aren't as experienced as the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica, and even some lineups of DoomPatrol could probably overpower them. But when the Titans do have to go up against any of them, they end up holding their own. The Titans have a degree of ''teamwork'' and loyalty to one another that will put every other hero team to shame, as aptly shown when Nightwing called ''every living past and present'' Titan to show up in a fight against Dr. Light.

* The Titans, as far as power levels go, aren't as strong as the JusticeLeague, aren't as experienced as the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica, and even some lineups of DoomPatrol could probably overpower them. But when the Titans do have to go up against any of them, they end up holding their own. The Titans have a degree of ''teamwork'' and loyalty to one another that will put every other hero team to shame, as aptly shown when Nightwing called ''every living past and present'' Titan to show up in a fight against Dr. Light.