History Fridge / TeenTitans

9th Apr '17 6:56:22 AM cybertoy0
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* Control Freak's defeat at the end of "Episode 297-494"; When he seems unstoppable, Beast Boy reveals that his new powers can be shut down by a really weird dance. Deus Ex Machina? Maybe, but remember, they're fighting in the universe of an in-universe cheesy sci-fi show. Such Plot devices would only be a matter of course.
28th Feb '17 6:25:30 PM yugi195
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** And of course, Robin's suspicion that Slade could still be alive because they {{Never Found The Body}} makes sense when you realize that, as Batman's former sidekick, he has more experience with {{Joker Immunity}} than most, having fought the [[TheJoker trope namer]].
23rd Feb '17 5:21:57 PM megahello
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* In "Winner Take All" Speedy tells wildebeest "may the best man win" before changing to "may the champion win" when Wildebeest seems to take offence at being called a man. The implication in the episode is that he isn't a man because he isn't human, but issue #16 of the tie in comic shows he isn't a man because [[spoiler:he is actually a small child.]]
* Also from "Winner Take All", [[TokenEvilTeammate Gizmo]] is probably included so that on a rewatch you don't question why [[spoiler: SixthRangerTraitor Terra]] is in the tournament of heroines.
3rd Feb '17 10:16:09 PM Tavernier
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** While you are correct about the plethora of reasons ''not'' to like Tamaraneans -- a NobleSavage ProudWarriorRace driven exclusively by emotion (which would realistically imply war whenever they ''feel'' like it, and judging from other examples from history, war would probably be the smallest problem in their "[[RapePillageAndBurn foreign policy]]", ignoring the fact that they're also a species of {{Flying Brick}}s) -- the episode itself ''really'' wants to be about Racism, so it's only fair to point out that the concept of the Tamaraneans ''itself'' is racist. The NobleSavage trope is an inherently racist concept, even if you emphasize the "Noble" by portraying the Tamaraneans as victims of folks even nastier than them and have their Savage aspects PlayedForLaughs. The fact that the episode reduces this to a matter of skin-deep bigotry (because [[SarcasmMode no one could ever have a legitimately negative opinion]] of a ProudWarriorRace) is also grossly condescending to both the audience and the cultures on which Tamaraneans are based. Which is all to say, there's a strange and almost metafictional irony about a racist stereotype complaining of racism, and it's not in the show's favor.

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** While you are correct about the plethora of reasons ''not'' to like Tamaraneans -- a NobleSavage ProudWarriorRace driven exclusively by emotion (which would realistically imply war whenever they ''feel'' like it, and judging from other examples from history, war would probably be the smallest problem in their "[[RapePillageAndBurn foreign policy]]", ignoring the fact that they're also a species of {{Flying Brick}}s) Brick}}s whose language canonically ''doesn't even have a word'' for "nice") -- the episode itself ''really'' wants to be about Racism, so it's only fair to point out that the concept of the Tamaraneans ''itself'' is racist. The NobleSavage trope is an inherently racist concept, even if you emphasize the "Noble" by portraying the Tamaraneans as victims of folks even nastier than them and have their Savage aspects PlayedForLaughs. The fact that the episode reduces this to a matter of skin-deep bigotry (because [[SarcasmMode no one could ever have a legitimately negative opinion]] of a ProudWarriorRace) is also grossly condescending to both the audience and the cultures on which Tamaraneans are based. Which is all to say, there's a strange and almost metafictional irony about a racist stereotype complaining of racism, and it's not in the show's favor.
3rd Feb '17 8:49:43 PM Tavernier
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** While you are correct about the plethora of reasons ''not'' to like Tamaraneans -- a NobleSavage ProudWarriorRace driven exclusively by emotion (which would realistically imply war whenever they ''feel'' like it, and judging from other examples from history, war would probably be the smallest problem in their "[[RapePillageAndBurn foreign policy]]", ignoring the fact that they're also a species of {{Flying Brick}}s) -- the episode itself ''really'' wants to be about Racism, so it's only fair to point out that the concept of the Tamaraneans ''itself'' is racist. The NobleSavage trope is an inherently racist concept, even if you emphasize the "Noble" by portraying the Tamaraneans as victims of folks even nastier than them and have their Savage aspects PlayedForLaughs. The fact that the episode reduces this to a matter of skin-deep bigotry (because [[SarcasmMode no one could ever have a legitimately negative opinion]] of a ProudWarriorRace) is also grossly condescending to both the audience and the cultures on which Tamaraneans are based. Which is all to say, there's a strange and almost metafictional irony about a racist stereotype complaining of racism, and it's not in the show's favor.
30th Jan '17 10:09:40 AM Allronix
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** Furthermore, why is it Kid Flash that manages to reason with Jinx and convince her that she has other options? In the comics, The Flash family (Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen) are friendly, good natured guys who are just as likely to ''talk down'' their RoguesGallery than fight them, and even convinces at least one to make a HeelFaceTurn. [[WorthyOpponent As a result, most of their enemies]] [[FriendlyEnemy have a great deal of respect for whoever takes up the mantle.]] It may not occur to most of the Titans to just have a talk with their enemies (VERY {{Justified}} in Robin's case, seeing what Batman deals with), but it's standard practice with The Flash.

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** Furthermore, why is it Kid Flash that manages to reason with Jinx and convince her that she has other options? In the comics, The Flash family (Barry (Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen) are friendly, good natured guys who are just as likely to ''talk down'' their RoguesGallery than fight them, and even convinces at least one to make a HeelFaceTurn. [[WorthyOpponent As a result, most of their enemies]] [[FriendlyEnemy have a great deal of respect for whoever takes up the mantle.]] It may not occur to most of the Titans to just have a talk with their enemies (VERY {{Justified}} in Robin's case, seeing what Batman deals with), but it's standard practice with The Flash.
30th Jan '17 10:06:25 AM Allronix
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** Furthermore, why is it Kid Flash that manages to reason with Jinx and convince her that she has other options? In the comics, The Flash family (Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen) are friendly, good natured guys who are just as likely to ''talk down'' their RoguesGallery than fight them, and even convinces at least one to make a HeelFaceTurn. [[WorthyOpponent As a result, most of their enemies]] [[FriendlyEnemy have a great deal of respect for whoever takes up the mantle.]] It may not occur to most of the Titans to just have a talk with their enemies (VERY {{Justified}} in Robin's case, seeing what Batman deals with), but it's standard practice with The Flash.
19th Dec '16 7:44:53 AM 18TillIDie
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* Also, let's put "Troq" into some context here, all woes about "racism" aside (''speciesism'' I believe is the closest human "term" here but whatev) but there probably is a very good reason for Val-Yor to not necessarily be in love with Starfire's race. Tamaraneans have been shown, in the show at the very least, as being brutal, low-tech, vaguely cannibalistic predators with with a warlike nature and desolate homeworld. They can vaporize you by looking angry in your direction and tear you in half for sport, have teeth that look like shattered glass and (in the same episode we see ALL these traits) they are shown to ''eat their prey alive''. So I'm gonna' go out on a limb and assume the interstellar capable, warlike, bestial, cannibalistic race of superhuman warriors probably, theoretically, just ''maybe'' caused some problems for literally every other species in their vicinity as soon as they gained the capacity to travel faster than light. [[MassEffect Krogan]] warbands look at these guys and go, "Wow, orange dudes, your chicks are hot but holy shit settle down a little with the flesh tearing and eating sentient creatures alive! Also, '''wow your chicks are hot''', how did that happen? You dudes ever met the Asari?" We have no idea why Val-Yor feels Starfire is bad or dislikes Tamaraneans, but people don't just "hate" each other for no reason. And considering how the rest of her race is, and how '''she''' was before meeting the other Titans, and that her entire race has displayed nothing other than being warlike brutes who, and I should mention this, ''eat animals alive holy Christ!'', or her sister who was a sociopathic murderer and narcissist (but predictably hot, as per Tamaranean standards apparently) I'm sorry I'll just take it as read until shown evidence otherwise that while Val-Yor was wrong to judge THIS Tamaranean, his opinion on Tamaraneans in general is probably overly generous.

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* Also, let's put "Troq" into some context here, all woes about "racism" aside (''speciesism'' I believe is the closest human "term" here but whatev) but there probably is a very good reason for Val-Yor to not necessarily be in love with Starfire's race. Tamaraneans have been shown, in the show at the very least, as being brutal, low-tech, vaguely cannibalistic predators with with a warlike nature and desolate homeworld. They can vaporize you by looking angry in your direction and tear you in half for sport, have teeth that look like shattered glass and (in the same episode we see ALL these traits) they are shown to ''eat their prey alive''. So I'm gonna' go out on a limb and assume the interstellar capable, warlike, bestial, cannibalistic race of superhuman warriors probably, theoretically, just ''maybe'' caused some problems for literally every other species in their vicinity as soon as they gained the capacity to travel faster than light. [[MassEffect Krogan]] Ork warbands look at these guys and go, "Wow, orange dudes, your chicks are hot but holy shit settle down a little with the flesh tearing and eating sentient creatures alive! Also, '''wow your chicks are hot''', how did that happen? You dudes ever met the Asari?" We have no idea why Val-Yor feels Starfire is bad or dislikes Tamaraneans, but people don't just "hate" each other for no reason. And considering how the rest of her race is, and how '''she''' was before meeting the other Titans, and that her entire race has displayed nothing other than being warlike brutes who, and I should mention this, ''eat animals alive holy Christ!'', or her sister who was a sociopathic murderer and narcissist (but predictably hot, as per Tamaranean standards apparently) I'm sorry I'll just take it as read until shown evidence otherwise that while Val-Yor was wrong to judge THIS Tamaranean, his opinion on Tamaraneans in general is probably overly generous.
19th Dec '16 7:40:14 AM 18TillIDie
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* Also, let's put "Troq" into some context here, all woes about "racism" aside (''speciesism'' I believe is the closest human "term" here but whatev) but there probably is a very good reason for Val-Yor to not necessarily be in love with Starfire's race. Tamaraneans have been shown, in the show at the very least, as being brutal, low-tech, vaguely cannibalistic predators with with a warlike nature and desolate homeworld. They can vaporize you by looking angry in your direction and tear you in half for sport, have teeth that look like shattered glass and (in the same episode we see ALL these traits) they are shown to ''eat their prey alive''. So I'm gonna' go out on a limb and assume the interstellar capable, warlike, bestial, cannibalistic race of superhuman warriors probably, theoretically, just ''maybe'' caused some problems for literally every other species in their vicinity as soon as they gained the capacity to travel faster than light. [[MassEffect Krogan]] warbands look at these guys and go, "Wow, orange dudes, your chicks are hot but holy shit settle down a little with the flesh tearing and eating sentient creatures alive! Also, '''wow your chicks are hot''', how did that happen? You dudes ever met the Asari?" We have no idea why Val-Yor feels Starfire is bad or dislikes Tamaraneans, but people don't just "hate" each other for no reason. And considering how the rest of her race is, and how '''she''' was before meeting the other Titans, and that her entire race has displayed nothing other than being warlike brutes who, and I should mention this, ''eat animals alive holy Christ!'', or her sister who was a sociopathic murderer and narcissist (but predictably hot, as per Tamaranean standards apparently) I'm sorry I'll just take it as read until shown evidence otherwise that while Val-Yor was wrong to judge THIS Tamaranean, his opinion on Tamaraneans in general is probably overly generous.
12th Dec '16 10:02:47 AM ChrisDen
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* Blackfire didn't join the Brotherhood of Evil, but when you think about it there are hints she has met them-and declined their offer:

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* Blackfire didn't join the Brotherhood of Evil, but when you think about it there are hints she has met them-and them--and declined their offer:



** When Starfire confronts her sister about the incident above, Blackfire ''denies'' having helped her while also admitting she knew Madame Rouge (and describing her as a "shifty shapeshifter"). Considering that, once caught, Blackfire stops lying about her schemes and [[EvilGloating starts gloating]], they must have met when the Brotherhood tried to recruit Blackfire and failed-And Madame Rouge, a much more experienced manipulator than Blackfire, still got some useful information.

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** When Starfire confronts her sister about the incident above, Blackfire ''denies'' having helped her while also admitting she knew Madame Rouge (and describing her as a "shifty shapeshifter"). Considering that, once caught, Blackfire stops lying about her schemes and [[EvilGloating starts gloating]], they must have met when the Brotherhood tried to recruit Blackfire and failed-And failed--and Madame Rouge, a much more experienced manipulator than Blackfire, still got some useful information.
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