History Fridge / SummerWars

10th Nov '16 1:46:06 PM rufusluciusivan
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** While it's not an absolute proof that ''nobody'' died, nothing in the movie hints that anyone outside the family knows that Love Machine was reponsible of Sakae's death.
* Also, we only saw the effects of Love Machine's rampage in Japan. [=OZ=] is used in the whole world. Even if Japan managed to successfully fix the damages thanks to Sakae, were the other countries as lucky?
18th Mar '16 10:51:29 AM Rebu
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* At first, it might seem like just something pretty when [[spoiler: Natsuki gets the blessing from the guardian whales]] and it's completely pointless. But then you think a little more and realize that [[spoiler: she didn't lose after getting the new clothes.]] What do fancy new clothes typically do in [=MMORPGs=]? They increase stats, such as luck.

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* At first, it might seem like just something pretty when [[spoiler: Natsuki gets the blessing from the guardian whales]] and it's completely pointless. But then you think a little more and realize that [[spoiler: she didn't lose after getting the new clothes.]] What do fancy new clothes typically do in [=MMORPGs=]? They increase stats, such as luck. The movie wasn't being metaphorical when she got clothes "for luck".




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* When Natsuki shows up in the opening, she acts like a stereotypical {{Moe}} girl in a largely realistic-seeming anime. This may seem odd, until you realize she's being deliberately cute in order to charm one of the boys into helping her.
27th Dec '14 12:21:03 PM nombretomado
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* More of a Meta Example, but if you were to listen closely, Sakae was born on August 1st, 1920, while this movie is set in 2010. If you think about it, the movie was released on August 1st 2009, which was the exact same date as the ''DigimonAdventure'' anniversary date, the Odaiba Memorial Day. Coincidence? Hosoda worked on the ''Digimon Adventure'' Pilot Movie and ''Our War Game'', he must have planned before that time.

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* More of a Meta Example, but if you were to listen closely, Sakae was born on August 1st, 1920, while this movie is set in 2010. If you think about it, the movie was released on August 1st 2009, which was the exact same date as the ''DigimonAdventure'' ''Anime/DigimonAdventure'' anniversary date, the Odaiba Memorial Day. Coincidence? Hosoda worked on the ''Digimon Adventure'' Pilot Movie and ''Our War Game'', he must have planned before that time.
12th Dec '14 12:04:33 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* More of a Meta Example, but if you were to listen closely, Sakae was born on August 1st, 1920, while this movie is set in 2010. If you think about it, the movie was released on August 1st 2009, which was the exact same date as the ''DigimonAdventure'' anniversary date, the Odaiba Memorial Day. Coincidence? Well, Hosoda did work on the ''Digimon Adventure'' Pilot Movie and ''Our War Game'', he must have planned before that time.

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* More of a Meta Example, but if you were to listen closely, Sakae was born on August 1st, 1920, while this movie is set in 2010. If you think about it, the movie was released on August 1st 2009, which was the exact same date as the ''DigimonAdventure'' anniversary date, the Odaiba Memorial Day. Coincidence? Well, Hosoda did work worked on the ''Digimon Adventure'' Pilot Movie and ''Our War Game'', he must have planned before that time.
*"Keep the lines of communication open". Sakae says this during her MissionControl scene and it explains away two events that otherwise look like {{Idiot Ball}}s. When the two little kids interrupt Kazuma's first battle with Love Machine, they think it is a harmless game instead of detaining a dangerous hacker. Later, when Shota removes the ice from the super computer to keep Sakae cool [[spoiler: and from decomposing]], he doesn't realize the damage he did because no one told him. It's only after a strategy session over a meal that involves the entire family, do they stop sabotaging each other and pool their resources.
30th Jul '14 11:09:09 AM creader
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15th Dec '13 11:27:08 AM Discar
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* Left with only two accounts, Love Machine still has control of the satellite. One of the two accounts he holds is Kenji's, but the other may be his original account, created by the military to load him to OZ in the first place.
** Or the account of the civil administrator who controls the satellite. I think the implication is that Kenji's ''was'' his original account - Love Machine is an AI, not an avatar.
*** It's even more fridge brilliant when you realize Kenji was the only one blamed for disrupting OZ. ''It was traced back to his Love Machine-controlled account!''

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* Left with only two accounts, Love Machine still has control of the satellite. One of the two accounts he holds is Kenji's, but the other may be his original account, created by the military to load him to OZ in the first place.
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is the account of the civil administrator who controls the satellite. I think the The implication is that Kenji's ''was'' his original account - Love account--Love Machine is an AI, not an avatar.
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avatar. This is also why Kenji was the only one blamed for disrupting OZ. ''It OZ--It was traced back to his Love Machine-controlled account!''account.



** It a good thing that they stayed to try to redirect the satellite instead of running away as Love Machine would have altered the course and hit them on the road.



* At first, it seems to be a remarkable coincidence that [[spoiler: the rogue AI that steals Kenji's avatar in its initial attack on Oz was written by the black sheep of the family he's staying with]]. Of course, since Kenji became involved in the entire mess by responding to an e-mail via cell-phone, [[spoiler: Love Machine almost certainly knew Kenji's physical location, was likely able to correlate it with the location of Wabisuke's home, and probably picked that particular avatar just to screw with its creator.]]
** Another reason Kenji was chosen in particular is that [[spoiler:he would have been the fastest person to have solved Love Machine's first encryption, even having mistyped the last letter, and so Love Machine logically chose him to be the scapegoat. Even if it would ultimately have been demonstrable that there was no way Kenji could have wrecked and hijacked Oz, he "won" by being the most efficient and therefore (to Love Machine) most plausible person to frame.]]

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* At first, it seems to be a remarkable coincidence that [[spoiler: the rogue AI that steals Kenji's avatar in its initial attack on Oz was written by the black sheep of the family he's staying with]]. Of course, since Kenji became involved in the entire mess by responding to an e-mail via cell-phone, [[spoiler: Love Machine almost certainly knew Kenji's physical location, was likely able to correlate it with the location of Wabisuke's home, and probably picked that particular avatar just to screw with its creator.]]
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]] Another reason Kenji was chosen in particular is that [[spoiler:he would have been the fastest person to have solved Love Machine's first encryption, even having mistyped the last letter, and so Love Machine logically chose him to be the scapegoat. Even if it would ultimately have been demonstrable that there was no way Kenji could have wrecked and hijacked Oz, he "won" by being the most efficient and therefore (to Love Machine) most plausible person to frame.]]



* We're talking about upsetting or destroying ONE reactor. ONE. That's Chernobyl, not Doomsday.
** True, the stakes aren't quite as high as the end of the world. But that's probably not the point. The point is that a lot of people could die because of it anyway. Just because the entire world isn't at stake doesn't mean the danger is any less real. It is still a lot of people. It is a more realistic danger, and still a very real threat.
** And just because we only know about one probe doesn't mean Love Machine only has one probe....
** The implied reason for "Doomsday" was that the impact from the probe would send the radiation from the reactor into the atmosphere.
*** A nuclear reactor goes up in, oooh, let's say China. China itself is devastated, and wants revenge. Japanese probe? Declare war on Japan. American AI hacker that ''caused'' said probe to drop on China? Declare war on USA. USA/Japan declared war right back, allies get involved, the world's political infrastructure is already in bad enough shape from the sabotage of OZ; Love Machine merely had to catalyse a whole shitstorm of anarchy to add to its little 'game'.
**** And that's even allowing for chance of cooler heads to prevail. Suppose it blows up a reactor near Moscow. Now the people in charge of Perimetr have lost communications because of OZ going down, and they've just detected a massive explosion producing radioactive fallout near Moscow. Their orders under those circumstances are to launch the control missiles to initiate a nuclear strike on the United States and Great Britain.
* The WhatAnIdiot of putting everything in the world on a single network. Politics and International Security alone would prevent that. Not to mention ''freaking missile access''. Something tells me the president doesn't use Facebook to launch nukes.
** Well to be fair it wasn't a missile that was the threat, [[spoiler: but a satellite's core sample capsule. It just fit the bill as an improvised ballistic missile.]]
** They did drop a mention however, that it could drop nukes if it wanted to. Although said mention was from a high school kid who would have no way of knowing that... [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass or]] [[TheMole would]] [[ParanoiaFuel he...]]

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* We're talking about upsetting or destroying ONE reactor. ONE. That's Chernobyl, not Doomsday.
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the stakes aren't quite as high as the end of the world. But that's probably not the point. The point is that a lot of people could die because of it anyway. Just because the entire world isn't at stake doesn't mean the danger is any less real. It is still a lot of people. It is a more realistic danger, and still a very real threat.
** And just because we only know about one probe doesn't mean Love Machine only has one probe....
** The implied reason for "Doomsday" was that the impact from the probe would send the radiation from the reactor into the atmosphere.
*** A nuclear reactor goes up in, oooh, let's say China. China itself is devastated, and wants revenge. Japanese probe? Declare war on Japan. American AI hacker that ''caused'' said probe to drop on China? Declare war on USA. USA/Japan declared war right back, allies get involved, the world's political infrastructure is already in bad enough shape from the sabotage of OZ; Love Machine merely had to catalyse a whole shitstorm of anarchy to add to its little 'game'.
**** And that's even allowing for chance of cooler heads to prevail. Suppose it blows up a reactor near Moscow. Now the people in charge of Perimetr have lost communications because of OZ going down, and they've just detected a massive explosion producing radioactive fallout near Moscow. Their orders under those circumstances are to launch the control missiles to initiate a nuclear strike on the United States and Great Britain.
* The WhatAnIdiot of putting everything in the world on a single network. Politics and International Security alone would prevent that. Not to mention ''freaking missile access''. Something tells me the president doesn't use Facebook to launch nukes.
** Well to be fair it wasn't a missile that was the threat, [[spoiler: but a satellite's core sample capsule. It just fit the bill as an improvised ballistic missile.]]
** They did drop a mention however, that it could drop nukes if it wanted to. Although said mention was from a high school kid who would have no way of knowing that... [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass or]] [[TheMole would]] [[ParanoiaFuel he...]]
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15th Dec '13 10:22:15 AM mythbuster
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**** And that's even allowing for chance of cooler heads to prevail. Suppose it blows up a reactor near Moscow. Now the people in charge of Perimetr have lost communications because of OZ going down, and they've just detected a massive explosion producing radioactive fallout near Moscow. Their orders under those circumstances are to launch the control missiles to initiate a nuclear strike on the United States and Great Britain.
14th Dec '13 11:51:56 PM MetalSlimeHunt
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** Another reason Kenji was chosen in particular is that [[spoiler:he would have been the fastest person to have solved Love Machine's first encryption, even having mistyped the last letter, and so Love Machine logically chose him to be the scapegoat. Even if it would ultimately have been demonstrable that there was no way Kenji could have wrecked and hijacked Oz, he "won" by being the most efficient and therefore (to Love Machine) most plausible person to frame.]]
14th Dec '13 11:40:22 PM Regulas314
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** It a good thing that they stayed to try to redirect the satellite instead of running away as Love Mashine would have altered the course and hit them on the road.

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** It a good thing that they stayed to try to redirect the satellite instead of running away as Love Mashine Machine would have altered the course and hit them on the road.
19th Sep '13 8:12:45 PM TargetOnMyBack
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** Well to be fair it wasn't a missle that was the threat, [[spoiler: but a satellite's core sample capsule. It just fit the bill as an improvised ballistic missle.]]

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** Well to be fair it wasn't a missle missile that was the threat, [[spoiler: but a satellite's core sample capsule. It just fit the bill as an improvised ballistic missle.missile.]]
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