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* When Rico calls out Ace for cutting in line, Zim is lurking in the background. CinemaWins suggests that Zim is looking for recruits with leadership material. But also, the way the scene is blocked, there's almost no way that Ace doesn't see him approaching, so Ace deciding to serve Rico and Dizzy and make friends is him trying to avoid getting on Zim's bad side.
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** It also explains the Bugs' themselves. Carl in the end reads the mind of the BrainBug and notes that it is "afraid". What if this is not just because it was captured, but a more wider feeling of the Bugs' hive mind. The Bugs are afraid of the strange bipedal invaders (humans) who appear to be attacking them for no reason, with intentionally bad tactics, and who treat their own apparently sentient soldiers as no more important that a worker ant. Anyone should be afraid of a such an enemy.
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* When Rico signs up for the Mobile Infantry, the clerk being revealed to be missing both his legs makes for an effective WhamShot, but doesn't make much sense in context. Cybernetics in the ''ST'' universe has advanced to the point that fully functional artificial hands are a thing, so why aren't legs? They're much less complicated body parts in terms of dexterity or articulation, certainly.
** This is from the book -- the clerk ''does'' have perfectly useful prosthetic legs and he puts them on as soon as he closes down the sign-up booth for the day. He leaves them off while on duty so that any prospective recruits know ''exactly'' what they're getting into, so as to weed out the squeamish.
** Either way, this isn't exactly the case. Humans have had robots with the capability of fine motor skills for decades, but only in recent years have robots with walking capability. And even then, the technology is still pretty weak.
* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space"
** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100% true, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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* When Rico signs up for the Mobile Infantry, the clerk being revealed to be missing both his legs makes for an effective WhamShot, but doesn't make much sense in context. Cybernetics in the ''ST'' universe has advanced to the point that fully functional artificial hands are a thing, so why aren't legs? They're much less complicated body parts in terms of dexterity or articulation, certainly.
** This is from the book -- the clerk ''does'' have perfectly useful prosthetic legs and he puts them on as soon as he closes down the sign-up booth for the day. He leaves them off while on duty so that any prospective recruits know ''exactly'' what they're getting into, so as to weed out the squeamish.
** Either way, this isn't exactly the case. Humans have had robots with the capability of fine motor skills for decades, but only in recent years have robots with walking capability. And even then, the technology is still pretty weak.
* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space"
** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100% true, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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** It also explains the Bugs' themselves. Carl in the end reads the mind of the BrainBug and notes that it is "afraid". What if this is not just because it was captured, but a more wider feeling of the Bugs' hive mind. The Bugs are afraid of the strange bipedal invaders (humans) who appear to be attacking them for no reason, with intentionally bad tactics, and who treat their own apparently sentient soldiers as no more important that a worker ant. Anyone should be afraid of a such an enemy.
!!FridgeLogic:
* When Rico signs up for the Mobile Infantry, the clerk being revealed to be missing both his legs makes for an effective WhamShot, but doesn't make much sense in context. Cybernetics in the ''ST'' universe has advanced to the point that fully functional artificial hands are a thing, so why aren't legs? They're much less complicated body parts in terms of dexterity or articulation, certainly.
** This is from the book -- the clerk ''does'' have perfectly useful prosthetic legs and he puts them on as soon as he closes down the sign-up booth for the day. He leaves them off while on duty so that any prospective recruits know ''exactly'' what they're getting into, so as to weed out the squeamish.
** Either way, this isn't exactly the case. Humans have had robots with the capability of fine motor skills for decades, but only in recent years have robots with walking capability. And even then, the technology is still pretty weak.
* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space"
** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100% true, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.enemy.
!!FridgeLogic:
* When Rico signs up for the Mobile Infantry, the clerk being revealed to be missing both his legs makes for an effective WhamShot, but doesn't make much sense in context. Cybernetics in the ''ST'' universe has advanced to the point that fully functional artificial hands are a thing, so why aren't legs? They're much less complicated body parts in terms of dexterity or articulation, certainly.
** This is from the book -- the clerk ''does'' have perfectly useful prosthetic legs and he puts them on as soon as he closes down the sign-up booth for the day. He leaves them off while on duty so that any prospective recruits know ''exactly'' what they're getting into, so as to weed out the squeamish.
** Either way, this isn't exactly the case. Humans have had robots with the capability of fine motor skills for decades, but only in recent years have robots with walking capability. And even then, the technology is still pretty weak.
* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space"
** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100% true, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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* It is quite possible that the whole war is a staged artificial conflict purely to maintain control of the status quo. The planet is run as a military fascist state - but one that has defeated all (human) enemies. So they build a military base inside an alien species' domain (it is later reveal there is already a base there). The film notes that it is possible that this base caused the Bugs' aggression, but the Federation could well have provoked this on purpose. It's purpose: As in most dicatorships, getting the people to believe that they must unite against a foreign/alien enemy instead of potentially overthrowing their own government. This theory explains a number of things:
** The Federation used to require a license to have babies. The BugWar is a far more effective means of population Control. The destruction of Buenos Aires could similary be intended population control, combined with a propaganda purpose.
** It is a logical explanation for the atrocious military tactics and equipment. The Federation does not want to win the war. They are simply intend on having some enemy to fight, and to kill some of its population in the process. Only in a war you do not want to win would you send ill-equiped soldiers across the galaxy on an unnecessary offensive. The Federation clearly has the technology for e.g. orbital strikes (a single asteroid nudged out of orbit could easily wipe out a planet) but instead choose to send its soldiers into essentially hand-to-hand combat.
** It also explains the Bugs' themselves. Carl in the end reads the mind of the BrainBug and notes that it is "afraid". What if this is not just because it was captured, but a more wider feeling of the Bugs' hive mind. The Bugs are afraid of the strange bipedal invaders (humans) who appear to be attacking them for no reason, with intentionally bad tactics, and who treat their own apparently sentient soldiers as no more important that a worker ant. Anyone should be afraid of a such an enemy.
** The Federation used to require a license to have babies. The BugWar is a far more effective means of population Control. The destruction of Buenos Aires could similary be intended population control, combined with a propaganda purpose.
** It is a logical explanation for the atrocious military tactics and equipment. The Federation does not want to win the war. They are simply intend on having some enemy to fight, and to kill some of its population in the process. Only in a war you do not want to win would you send ill-equiped soldiers across the galaxy on an unnecessary offensive. The Federation clearly has the technology for e.g. orbital strikes (a single asteroid nudged out of orbit could easily wipe out a planet) but instead choose to send its soldiers into essentially hand-to-hand combat.
** It also explains the Bugs' themselves. Carl in the end reads the mind of the BrainBug and notes that it is "afraid". What if this is not just because it was captured, but a more wider feeling of the Bugs' hive mind. The Bugs are afraid of the strange bipedal invaders (humans) who appear to be attacking them for no reason, with intentionally bad tactics, and who treat their own apparently sentient soldiers as no more important that a worker ant. Anyone should be afraid of a such an enemy.
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, 100% true, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.\\
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** This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.populace.
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* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space".\\
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* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space".Space"
**This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.\\
**This is merely a typical move from a fascist government: the flimsy justification for war. It matters not whether the information presented is actually 100%, only that it elicit the desired response from the population: shock and vengeance. This also explains why no astrophysicists have stepped forward to refute the government's claim: either they are all on the government's payroll or have remained silent out of fear of retaliation from government agents or the furious populace.\\
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* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space".\\
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That said, the whole "spore into space" bit also doesn't make sense if it is simple "flinging", either, for the same reason.
** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.
** [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 2+2=5]], man!
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That said, the whole "spore into space" bit also doesn't make sense if it is simple "flinging", either, for the same reason.
** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.
** [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 2+2=5]], man!
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* Nobody seems to question the rather obvious flaw in the "Bugs did Buenos Aires" line - the vastness of space. While we're explicitly told that the bugs can "fling spore into space" and saw that their plasma bugs are able to reach orbit with their plasma bursts, it isn't revealed anywhere that the bugs have faster-than-light capability at all. This would mean that the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires was in transit for thousands - if not millions - of years before hitting earth. This would make it impossible for the attack to have been in retaliation for Human encroachment into "Bug Space".\\
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That said, the whole "spore into space" bit also doesn't make sense if it is simple "flinging", either, for the same reason.
** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.
** [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 2+2=5]], man!\\
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That said, the whole "spore into space" bit also doesn't make sense if it is simple "flinging", either, for the same reason.
** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.
** [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 2+2=5]], man!
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** [[Literature/1984 2+2=5]], man!
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** [[Literature/1984 [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 2+2=5]], man!
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** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.
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** As mentioned elsewhere, the asteroid ''could'' have been a FalseFlagOperation.FalseFlagOperation.
** [[Literature/1984 2+2=5]], man!
** [[Literature/1984 2+2=5]], man!
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** It's a classic fascist talking point: make your enemy simultaneously appear powerful and weak.
