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17th Apr '15 11:45:59 PM TinMan
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* How exactly did the U.S. government explain the Lucian attack on Homeworld Command? Gonna be kind of hard to cover up a second major terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

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* How exactly did the U.S. government explain the Lucian attack on Homeworld Command? Gonna be kind of hard to cover up a second major terrorist attack on the Pentagon.Pentagon without resorting to lying about who pulled it off. Who is the American government gonna blame for this one?
17th Apr '15 11:43:51 PM TinMan
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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder what the job description actually entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.

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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder what the job description actually entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.nightclub.
* How exactly did the U.S. government explain the Lucian attack on Homeworld Command? Gonna be kind of hard to cover up a second major terrorist attack on the Pentagon.
6th Apr '15 6:20:30 AM thatsnumberwang
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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implicitly implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder what the job description actually entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.

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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implicitly implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder what the job description actually entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.
6th Apr '15 6:18:43 AM thatsnumberwang
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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implicitly implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder actually what the job description entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.

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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implicitly implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder actually what the job description actually entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.
6th Apr '15 6:16:55 AM thatsnumberwang
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** And, they started out with all of the knowledge that their ancestors could record. Due to the aforementioned inbreeding issue (and certainly someone in the group would understand the 50/500 rule) genetics would have been a high priority. Then add a couple thousand years of development, even despite having to bootstrap their infrastructure before they could actually advance the sciences.

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** And, they started out with all of the knowledge that their ancestors could record. Due to the aforementioned inbreeding issue (and certainly someone in the group would understand the 50/500 rule) genetics would have been a high priority. Then add a couple thousand years of development, even despite having to bootstrap their infrastructure before they could actually advance the sciences.sciences.

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* The implications of those body switching stones are terrifying if you really think about it. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that consent has ever been given for the Destiny Expedition to have sex in their donor bodies, and it seems to be implicitly implied that there isn't as Eli has to remind Dr Rush and Dr Perry of this after walking in on them kissing. But even if you are perfectly fine with this (and perfectly fine with a complete stranger and/or someone that you'll have to work with every day seeing your naked body) the moral implications are never explored. Who would technically be the parent of any child accidentally born from this union? Who would have the final decision on an abortion? What would happen in the event of an STD? It is all just glossed over just so we can have some fanservice. One also has to wonder actually what the job description entailed for these volunteers, because would anyone reading this willingly let someone go off in their body to get drunk, eat junk food, start fights and potentially get seriously injured in an accident? It is ''you'' who has to deal with the long term consequences - imagine being rendered a paraplegic for life because Eli crashed the car coming home from the nightclub.
13th Nov '13 6:36:19 PM adbrown
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** And, they started out with all of the knowledge that their ancestors could record. Due to the aforementioned inbreeding issue (and certainly someone in the group would understand the 50/500 rule) genetics would have been a high priority. Then add a couple thousand years of development, even despite having to bootstrap their infrastructure before they could actually advance the sciences.
23rd Apr '13 12:08:12 PM Sifr1889
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* Of ''course'' the inhabitants of Novus have [[spoiler:a cure for Motor Neuron Disease]]. A sizable portion of the population is [[spoiler:descended from TJ]] after all, thus [[spoiler:it must have been a lot more common on Novus than on Earth.]]

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* Of ''course'' the inhabitants of Novus have [[spoiler:a cure for Motor Neuron Disease]]. A sizable portion of the population is [[spoiler:descended from TJ]] after all, thus [[spoiler:it must have been a lot more common on Novus than on Earth.]]]]
** Not to mention, of ''course'' they would have a greater understanding of genetics than we do. Due to their entire population being derived from [[spoiler: less than 80 people]], they would have been forced to find ways to sustain their population through genetic engineering, otherwise the genetic bottleneck would have caused them to interbreed themselves into extinction within a few generations.
27th Dec '12 11:38:22 AM SimBen
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* Of ''course'' the inhabitants of Novus have [[spoiler:a cure for Motor Neuron Disease]]. A sizable portion of the population is [[spoiler:descended from TJ]] after all, thus [[spoiler:it must have been a lot more common on Novus than on Earth.]]

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* Who exactly did Brody found Futura with? Every single other named character seems to be on Young's side, aside from a couple background characters that didn't appear in ''Epilogue'' at all (Becker, Morrison), and the only one of those two who seems like he has a personality that would side with Brody is Morrison. You can't found a country with only two people, and no women to make babies with. The only other possibility is that he left with a bunch of the crew's children and grandchildren, which would be particularly hilarious considering his GrumpyOldMan speech.
* There were just over [[spoiler: 60]] people left on ''Destiny'' by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus [[spoiler: Varro]] but minus [[spoiler: Rush]]), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. [[spoiler: Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.]]

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* Of ''course'' the inhabitants of Novus have [[spoiler:a cure for Motor Neuron Disease]]. A sizable portion of the population is [[spoiler:descended from TJ]] after all, thus [[spoiler:it must have been a lot more common on Novus than on Earth.]]

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* Who exactly did Brody found Futura with? Every single other named character seems to be on Young's side, aside from a couple background characters that didn't appear in ''Epilogue'' at all (Becker, Morrison), and the only one of those two who seems like he has a personality that would side with Brody is Morrison. You can't found a country with only two people, and no women to make babies with. The only other possibility is that he left with a bunch of the crew's children and grandchildren, which would be particularly hilarious considering his GrumpyOldMan speech.
* There were just over [[spoiler: 60]] people left on ''Destiny'' by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus [[spoiler: Varro]] but minus [[spoiler: Rush]]), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. [[spoiler: Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.
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27th Dec '12 11:14:19 AM SimBen
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* There were just over 60 people left on ''Destiny'' by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus Varro but minus Rush), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.

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* There were just over 60 [[spoiler: 60]] people left on ''Destiny'' by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus Varro [[spoiler: Varro]] but minus Rush), [[spoiler: Rush]]), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. [[spoiler: Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.]]
27th Dec '12 11:09:13 AM SimBen
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* There were just over 60 people left on Destiny by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus Varro but minus Rush), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.

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* There were just over 60 people left on Destiny ''Destiny'' by the time the events of ''Twin Destinies'' occured (taking into account the roughly 80 people stated in the series pilot, minus the people they've lost, plus Varro but minus Rush), which means this is the number of people that settled Novus. Demographic studies have concluded that the bare minimum sustainable population for a population to survive long-term is around 80, if and only if we start with an ideal male-female ratio and everyone adheres to a strict breeding regimen (which means every fertile male would need to impregnate every fertile female repeatedly and as soon as possible, rendering meaningless the couplings and families shown in the episode, not to mention Wray's sexuality). To allow for people to live and breed freely, the number would have to be doubled, around 160. Basically, there was nowhere near enough people aboard ''Destiny'' for any of their descendants to survive after 2,000 years.
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