History Fridge / StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome

*** Wait a minute, during this timeframe, would Federation communicators even work with a Klingon ship? They were at war with each other. Or are they powerful enough transmitters to not require a ship or satellite relay?

** ''Should'' Spock know how it feels to be dead at all? Forgive the flimsy computer analogy, but Spock uploaded his katra into [=McCoy=]'s brain before his sacrifice, so if he remembers anything between that and the point his katra was downloaded back into his body, they should be memories he shares with Bones. Spock's body went through a second infancy, so it seems like the body wouldn't have retained any memories of the event--though to be fair, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Vulcans can recall their infancy with perfect clarity--so, if anything, Spock should be able to describe his experience to [=McCoy=] because they have the exact same frame of reference for the event.

* Considering all the crap we've put in the ocean, and that the whales' endangerment is kinda our fault, why would George and Gracie talking to the probe make things any better? "Well, they hunted us, caused all kinds of pollution, and apparently have driven us totally to extinction 'cause they had to ''go back in time and kidnap us'' to have someone to talk to you. Other than that, we're fine." Once whoever sent the probe found out to what happened to their pals, a RoaringRampageOfRevenge seems in order, especially when they realized all they had to do to accomplish it was ''leave the probe running.'' If anything, it'd be an ironic punishment. "See what happens when you carelessly put your crap in environment someone's kinda using? Suck on that, ape-boys!"

** Only if she wants to be. Voluntary and Informed consent is pretty important.

*** The thing to consider is not just that the person in question is dead/missing but how the people who knew them react and how that will effect them and the people who know them. Sometimes it makes no relevant difference, other times the changes are more obvious. If Gillain wasn't particularily social then her disappearance will cause minimal change.

*** That would depend. With such advanced technology they may not have people who are dependant on constant care anymore so it would simply be a matter of if anyone was mortally wounded during that period.
* Anyone else out there think that the old woman in the hospital is in for a lifetime of tests and probes as the medical establishment tries to figure out how she grew a new kidney (and how they can repricate the miracle).

*** That would depend. With such advanced technology they may not have people who are dependant on constant care anymore so it would simply be a matter of if anyone was mortally wounded during that period.

*** It was meant facetiously. I was trying to communicate the idea that a catastrophic power outage on a planet that is so heavily dependent on technology probably caused some deaths.

** The movie's premise makes time travel in the ''Star Trek'' universe seem much too easy. We can only assume that that ship was special because it belonged to [[BackToTheFuture Christopher Lloyd]].

* Spock tells McCoy that he cannot discuss what it was like being dead unless the other person in the conversation has a similar frame of reference, i.e. has been dead themselves. Everyone seems to be forgetting that 2 members of the crew '''have''' been dead before: McCoy died on the Shore Leave planet, and Scotty was killed by the Nomad probe!

*** Did you not pay attention to all the ranting during the medical scenes? The very concept of a pacemaker in the 23rd century would have made Bones hit the roof.

** And it couldn't have been great for pacemakers.

* StarTrekTheVoyageHome is famously the only Trek movie to have no body count. . .so don't think too hard about just how badly that probe was fucking with Earth's weather.

** Edith Keeler was from the 1930s, where the most advanced technology available was a lightbulb. Her entire life was devoted to caring for the men that came into the shelter. Gillian was from the 1980s, which would be a slightly easier transition culturally. Her entire life was given over to caring for George and Gracie. Besides, who's to say that the Guardian would have ''let'' them bring back Edith Keeler? (And yes, I got the HoYay implications of your post. I'm just not a Kirk/Spock shipper.)

* Since its now been established that its perfectly fine to take a 20th Century person back to the 23rd....might there be some OTHER reason Spock insisted so strongly "Edith Keeler MUST die"?

*** Fourth, actually. They did it three times in [[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]. Twice ''on purpose''.

** Time travel in StarTrek IS easy, it's just generally a bad idea.
** So what happened to Maltz from ''StarTrekIII''? Surely if the Federation sent a ship to pick up a Klingon prisoner, they would have picked up Kirk and company as well. Did Maltz spend the entirety of ''Star Trek IV'' in the bird-of-prey's brig?

**** However, the ExpandedUniverse has Maltz still alive in [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration the 24th century]].

** Except that the manner of Spock's death; the transfer and re-insertion of his Katra into a rejuvenated body is a kind of death-resurrection experience that only a Vulcan can possibly have.

* Spock tells McCoy that he cannot discuss what it was like being dead unless the other person in the conversation has a similar frame of reference, i.e. has been dead themselves. Everyone seems to be forgetting that 2 members of the crew '''have''' been dead before: McCoy died on the Shore Leave planet, and Scotty was killed by the Nomad probe!

*** They were seized by the {{MIB}} and taken to {{Area 51}}.

** The novelization explains that there are samples of humpback whale DNA preserved on Earth, but that without a pre-existing whale to teach the clones how to act like humpback whales, there would be no point. Presumably these samples are used to boost the population to a self-sustaining level.