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** Could be worse. You could've been in the middle of a transporter cycle when everything went down. Statistically, someone had to be.
* Assuming Gillian's boss is basically not a bad guy, just a bureaucrat doing the best he can who felt forced to screw over her whale project because he's under a lot of pressure...imagine how he feels after the movie's events. He deals Gillian a severe professional and emotional blow, tries lamely to apologize; Gillian (understandably) slaps him, calls him a son of a bitch, ''and is never heard from again''. From his perspective, she presumably either went to live off the grid in some connected-with-the-sea remote island community, or has thrown herself off a cliff.
* ...which is more than likely what she ''did'' do in the original timeline. Otherwise, one would expect her vanishing from her time period to affect history...yet it doesn't. And Starfleet is fine enough with her jumping time periods to even give her a uniform and a job. She even says to Kirk that she has "nothing left" in her old life. [[TearJerker Apparently she not only has no one she'll miss, but no one from her old life will miss her that much either.]]
* Assuming Gillian's boss is basically not a bad guy, just a bureaucrat doing the best he can who felt forced to screw over her whale project because he's under a lot of pressure...imagine how he feels after the movie's events. He deals Gillian a severe professional and emotional blow, tries lamely to apologize; Gillian (understandably) slaps him, calls him a son of a bitch, ''and is never heard from again''. From his perspective, she presumably either went to live off the grid in some connected-with-the-sea remote island community, or has thrown herself off a cliff.
* ...which is more than likely what she ''did'' do in the original timeline. Otherwise, one would expect her vanishing from her time period to affect history...yet it doesn't. And Starfleet is fine enough with her jumping time periods to even give her a uniform and a job. She even says to Kirk that she has "nothing left" in her old life. [[TearJerker Apparently she not only has no one she'll miss, but no one from her old life will miss her that much either.]]
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** Could be worse. You could've been in the middle of a transporter cycle when everything went down. Statistically, someone had to be.
be. ([[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture Poor Sonak...]])
*Assuming Gillian's boss Assume that Bob (Gillian's PointyHairedBoss) is basically not a bad guy, person, but just a tone-deaf bureaucrat doing the best he can who felt was forced to screw over her whale project because he's under a lot of pressure...pressure... Now imagine how he feels after the movie's events. events: He deals Gillian a severe professional and emotional blow, then tries to lamely to apologize; apologize. In return, Gillian (understandably) slaps him, calls him a son of a bitch, ''and is son-of-a-bitch, and '''''is never heard from again''. again'''''. From his Bob's perspective, she Gillian presumably either abandoned her life and went to live off the grid in some connected-with-the-sea remote island community, off-grid, had a psychological breakdown and disappeared, or has thrown herself off a cliff.
* ...whichcommitted suicide.
** Which is more than likely what she ''did''do in the original timeline. Otherwise, one would expect her vanishing from her time period time-travel to somehow affect history...yet at least local history in a measurable way (interactions with family, friends, or co-workers, or possible future actions?) Yet, based on a lack of commentary from anyone, it doesn't. And Starfleet is fine accepts Gillian's time-jump easily enough with her jumping time periods to even almost immediately give her a uniform and a job. She posting.
*** Even sadder, when Kirk and company are about to depart Earth, she even says to Kirk that [[TearJerker she has "nothing left" in her old life.[[TearJerker Apparently she not only has no one she'll miss, but no one from her old life will miss her that much either.either. The Expanded Universe explains this by killing off her immediate family long before she leaves for the 23rd century.]]
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* ...which
** Which is more than likely what she ''did''
*** Even sadder, when Kirk and company are about to depart Earth, she even says to Kirk that [[TearJerker she has "nothing left" in her old life.
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** This is somewhat mitigated by the fact that, in real life, the four decades since this movie was made have seen an eight-fold increase in the number of humpback whales. This was the result of increased conservation and environmental regulation (a fair bit of it driven by the movie itself), so the removal of a single breeding pair is very unlikely to have any lasting impact on its own.
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* Chekov [[Recap/StarTrekS2E17APieceOfTheAction pulled a McCoy]] and left his [[GivingRadioToTheRomans phaser behind]] in the hands of the U.S. military. If they take it apart and figure out how it works...
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.
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* Chekov [[Recap/StarTrekS2E17APieceOfTheAction pulled a McCoy]] and left his [[GivingRadioToTheRomans phaser behind]] in the hands of the U.S. military. If they take it apart and figure out how it works...
!!FridgeLogic:
* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.works...
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.
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** Or he could be really into antique aircraft.
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** For what it's worth, in ''Film/StarTrekInToDarkness'' we saw a small shuttle about the same size as a helicopter that flew in nearly the same manner. Sulu could be referring to one of those craft.
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** Could be worse. You could've been in the middle of a transporter cycle when everything went down. Statistically, someone had to be.
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** Unless it's a StableTimeLoop situation.
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* ...which is more than likely what she ''did'' do in the original timeline. Otherwise, one would expect her vanishing from her time period to affect history...yet it doesn't. And Starfleet is fine enough with her jumping time periods to even give her a uniform and a job. She even says to Kirk that she has "nothing left" in her old life. [[TearJerker Apparently she not only has no one she'll miss, but no one from her old life will miss her that much either.]]
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?ship?
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.
** There's a number of reasons why this would be impossible, impractical, or downright dangerous:
## Extreme time dilation like that only occurs very, very close to the speed of light. To give you a sense of how fast you would need to go, going at 1 cm/second below the speed of light would make the 300-year journey pass in about 21 ''hours''. No canon sources indicate that impulse can be pushed this far.
## The closer you get the speed of light, the more massive your ship becomes. For our 21-hour journey, the bird of prey would be around 120,000 times as massive as it was before. Again, it seems unlikely that the ship could provide the kind of power needed.
## During the journey, the ''HMS Bounty'' would be part of the past, thus increasing the risk of further contaminating the timeline.
** Also, from an out-of-universe perspective, it cuts out the need for extra time to explain to the audience how the ship gets back to the present. With the slingshot maneuver, the audience already knows how this works at this point in the movie.
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* Chekov [[Recap/StarTrekS2E17APieceOfTheAction pulled a McCoy]] and left his [[GivingRadioToTheRomans phaser behind]] in the hands of the U.S. military. If they take it apart and figure out how it works...works...
!!FridgeLogic:
* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
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* Okay, I can understand that some kind of TechnoBabble might be necessary to explain how one can loop around the sun at warp speeds to propel oneself back in time, but why the need for such a dangerous procedure to go forward in time? Why not just use the impulse engines to travel at a sublight speed that would be high enough for time dilation to occur, and then simply let 300 years pass for the earth while only a few minutes pass for Admiral Kirk and the gang on board the Klingon ship?
