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** Another major factor besides the hatchers is Air Superiority. Sauria doesn't have a large population capable of handling airborne threats, and what few they do have (the Cloudrunners) aren't able to match either the speed or flight capability of an Aparoid-fighter. So not only could the Aparoid forces win through sheer attrition, but they could also render large sections of the planet deathtraps that the Saurian defenders couldn't even respond to. But once Star Fox arrives with the Arwing air-supsriority fighters, that advantage can be whittled down quickly and efficiently.
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* It's fitting that ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'', with its MultipleEndings, is the last installment in the franchise before the ContinuityReboot: not only would CuttingOffTheBranches be too complicated for the developers, but it also puts the player in control of [[GrandFinale how the series ends]].

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* It's fitting that ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'', with its MultipleEndings, is the last installment in the franchise before the ContinuityReboot: not only would CuttingOffTheBranches be too complicated for the developers, but it also puts the player in control of [[GrandFinale how the series ends]].ends]].
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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.[[note]]Titania, of course, is an exception, as the team had to take a detour to rescue Slippy from the harsh desert planet.[[/note]]

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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, [[GadgeteerGenius engineering]], ''not'' piloting: [[LeeroyJenkins piloting]]: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.[[note]]Titania, of course, is an exception, as the team had to take a detour to rescue Slippy from the harsh desert planet.[[/note]]
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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.

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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.[[note]]Titania, of course, is an exception, as the team had to take a detour to rescue Slippy from the harsh desert planet.[[/note]]
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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64]]''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.

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* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64]]''? ''VideoGame/StarFox64''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.
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* In ''64'', any enemies your wingmen kill don't count towards your score. This makes Sector Z a pain in the ass to get the medal on, as the missiles that you have to stop are worth 66 points out of the medal target of 100, and your wingmen are trying to shoot them down for you, their constant fire turning aiming for a medal into a LuckBasedMission. Considering that you've probably been {{Kill Steal}}ing from your wingmen throughout the whole game if you're playing for score, you could see your wingmen swiping your valuable points away as payback!

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* In ''64'', any enemies your wingmen kill don't count towards your score. This makes Sector Z a pain in the ass to get the medal on, as the missiles that you have to stop are worth 66 points out of the medal target of 100, and your wingmen are trying to shoot them down for you, their constant fire turning aiming for a medal into a LuckBasedMission. Considering that you've probably been {{Kill Steal}}ing from your wingmen throughout the whole game if you're playing for score, you could see your wingmen swiping your valuable points away as payback!payback!
* Why does [[TheMillstone Slippy Toad]] cause the team so many problems in ''VideoGame/StarFox64]]''? Because his primary talent is in engineering, ''not'' piloting: just because he could build an Arwing better than his comrades, doesn't mean he could handle it as well as them. This then leads to the question of why Fox would allow him to fight on the front lines in the first place, which has its own FridgeBrilliance: whenever an Arwing is shot down, the pilot himself doesn't suffer any consequences of his own, but merely has to wait until a new Arwing is constructed before he can partake in missions again. Therefore, if Slippy [[MeaningfulName slips up]], the worst that could happen is a lost Arwing; they will still have their valued mechanic by the end of the game.
* It's fitting that ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'', with its MultipleEndings, is the last installment in the franchise before the ContinuityReboot: not only would CuttingOffTheBranches be too complicated for the developers, but it also puts the player in control of [[GrandFinale how the series ends]].
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* Any Star Fox fan worth their salt will tell you that the "Easy" side of Venom (via Bolse) can be one of the hardest levels to complete in Star Fox 64's Expert Mode. In Expert Mode, Fox wears a pair of sunglasses that make him resemble his father, James. And where did James (supposedly) die? Venom. In addition, if you look closely at one of the images that appears alongside the opening crawl, it clearly shows an Arwing (likely James') being ambushed by Venomian fighters on the "Easy" version of Venom.

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* Any Star Fox fan worth their salt will tell you that the "Easy" side of Venom (via Bolse) can be one of the hardest levels to complete in Star Fox 64's Expert Mode. In Expert Mode, Fox wears a pair of sunglasses that make him resemble his father, James. And where did James (supposedly) die? Venom. In addition, if you look closely at one of the images that appears alongside the opening crawl, it clearly shows an Arwing (likely James') being ambushed by Venomian fighters on the "Easy" version of Venom.Venom.
* In ''64'', any enemies your wingmen kill don't count towards your score. This makes Sector Z a pain in the ass to get the medal on, as the missiles that you have to stop are worth 66 points out of the medal target of 100, and your wingmen are trying to shoot them down for you, their constant fire turning aiming for a medal into a LuckBasedMission. Considering that you've probably been {{Kill Steal}}ing from your wingmen throughout the whole game if you're playing for score, you could see your wingmen swiping your valuable points away as payback!
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* Any Star Fox fan worth their salt will tell you that the "Easy" side of Venom (via Bolse) can be one of the hardest levels to complete in Star Fox 64's Expert Mode. In Expert Mode, Fox wears a pair of sunglasses that make him resemble his father, James. And where did James (supposedly) die? Venom. In addition, if you look closely at one images that appear alongside the opening crawl, it clearly shows an Arwing (likely James') being ambushed by Venomian fighters on the "Easy" version of Venom.

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* Any Star Fox fan worth their salt will tell you that the "Easy" side of Venom (via Bolse) can be one of the hardest levels to complete in Star Fox 64's Expert Mode. In Expert Mode, Fox wears a pair of sunglasses that make him resemble his father, James. And where did James (supposedly) die? Venom. In addition, if you look closely at one of the images that appear appears alongside the opening crawl, it clearly shows an Arwing (likely James') being ambushed by Venomian fighters on the "Easy" version of Venom.
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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.

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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.move.
* Any Star Fox fan worth their salt will tell you that the "Easy" side of Venom (via Bolse) can be one of the hardest levels to complete in Star Fox 64's Expert Mode. In Expert Mode, Fox wears a pair of sunglasses that make him resemble his father, James. And where did James (supposedly) die? Venom. In addition, if you look closely at one images that appear alongside the opening crawl, it clearly shows an Arwing (likely James') being ambushed by Venomian fighters on the "Easy" version of Venom.
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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.
* In ''64'', why do your teammates try to destroy the missiles for you in Sector Z, even though missile points make up 2/3 of the medal score? Because if you've been going for a high score, chances are you've been {{Kill Steal}}ing from them throughout the game and they want to [[{{Revenge}} give you a taste of your own medicine]].

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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.
* In ''64'', why do your teammates try to destroy the missiles for you in Sector Z, even though missile points make up 2/3 of the medal score? Because if you've been going for a high score, chances are you've been {{Kill Steal}}ing from them throughout the game and they want to [[{{Revenge}} give you a taste of your own medicine]].
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* Why do your teammates try to destroy the missiles for you in Sector Z, even though missile points make up 2/3 of the medal score? Because if you've been going for a high score, chances are you've been {{Kill Steal}}ing from them throughout the game and they want to [[{{Revenge}} give you a taste of your own medicine]].

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* Why In ''64'', why do your teammates try to destroy the missiles for you in Sector Z, even though missile points make up 2/3 of the medal score? Because if you've been going for a high score, chances are you've been {{Kill Steal}}ing from them throughout the game and they want to [[{{Revenge}} give you a taste of your own medicine]].
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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.

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* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.move.
* Why do your teammates try to destroy the missiles for you in Sector Z, even though missile points make up 2/3 of the medal score? Because if you've been going for a high score, chances are you've been {{Kill Steal}}ing from them throughout the game and they want to [[{{Revenge}} give you a taste of your own medicine]].
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** Though if you look VERY carefully at the space background as the cutscene after escaping the base ends, [[FreezeFrameBonus you can see a distinctly Arwing-shaped object moving away.]]

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** Though if you look VERY carefully at the space background as the cutscene after escaping the base ends, [[FreezeFrameBonus you can see a distinctly Arwing-shaped object moving away.]]]]
* Why is it that brain!Andross's cerebellum in Star Fox 64 is its weakpoint? Because the cerebellum regulates motor control and movement. Destroy it and Andross can't move.
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* This mainly applies to whether one subscribes to the idea that James [=McCloud=] was KilledOffForReal prior to the beginning of ''VideoGame/StarFox64''. In the definitive climax of the game, Fox is led to safety from Andross's exploding base by what appears to be the "ghost" of James in his Arwing, which disappears as soon as Fox is safe. Now, if James truly was a ghost here, why would he show up on Venom? If the prologue is accurate, then it's because ''that is where he died''. And his last act before passing on to the afterlife is ensuring his son survives and giving him some touching parting words.

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* This mainly applies to whether one subscribes to the idea that James [=McCloud=] was KilledOffForReal prior to the beginning of ''VideoGame/StarFox64''. In the definitive climax of the game, Fox is led to safety from Andross's exploding base by what appears to be the "ghost" of James in his Arwing, which disappears as soon as Fox is safe. Now, if James truly was a ghost here, why would he show up on Venom? If the prologue is accurate, then it's because ''that is where he died''. And his last act before passing on to the afterlife is ensuring his son survives and giving him some touching parting words.words.
** Though if you look VERY carefully at the space background as the cutscene after escaping the base ends, [[FreezeFrameBonus you can see a distinctly Arwing-shaped object moving away.]]
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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.

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* The Aparoids Aparoids' takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's its defences in ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria Sauria, on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way underway long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.
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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.
* This mainly applies to whether one subscribes to the idea that James [=McCloud=] was KilledOffForReal prior to the beginning of ''StarFox64''. In the definitive climax of the game, Fox is led to safety from Andross's exploding base by what appears to be the "ghost" of James in his Arwing, which disappears as soon as Fox is safe. Now, if James truly was a ghost here, why would he show up on Venom? If the prologue is accurate, then it's because ''that is where he died''. And his last act before passing on to the afterlife is ensuring his son survives and giving him some touching parting words.

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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''StarFoxAssault''.''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.
* This mainly applies to whether one subscribes to the idea that James [=McCloud=] was KilledOffForReal prior to the beginning of ''StarFox64''.''VideoGame/StarFox64''. In the definitive climax of the game, Fox is led to safety from Andross's exploding base by what appears to be the "ghost" of James in his Arwing, which disappears as soon as Fox is safe. Now, if James truly was a ghost here, why would he show up on Venom? If the prologue is accurate, then it's because ''that is where he died''. And his last act before passing on to the afterlife is ensuring his son survives and giving him some touching parting words.
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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.

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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.protectors.
* This mainly applies to whether one subscribes to the idea that James [=McCloud=] was KilledOffForReal prior to the beginning of ''StarFox64''. In the definitive climax of the game, Fox is led to safety from Andross's exploding base by what appears to be the "ghost" of James in his Arwing, which disappears as soon as Fox is safe. Now, if James truly was a ghost here, why would he show up on Venom? If the prologue is accurate, then it's because ''that is where he died''. And his last act before passing on to the afterlife is ensuring his son survives and giving him some touching parting words.
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* The Aparoids takeover and apparent eradication of Sauria and it's defences in ''StarFoxAssault''. We know the dinosaurs fought back, we know they lost. ''However,'' it is more than just a simple case of inverting RockBeatsLaser. The objective of the mission for Star Fox (or rather Fox and Krystal on the ground) is to destroy the Aparoid Hatchers, which enable them to multiply and spawn more troops. Peppy even directly states that "if we can destroy those Hatchers, we ''might'' just have a chance". The mission finishes the moment all the Hatchers on Sauria's surface are destroyed. Star Fox had experience combatting the Aparoids prior, they ''knew'' what to look for in order to gain an advantage or victory over their enemies. The dinosaur tribes of Sauria on the other hand, had no such experience, and were facing an enemy that was more technologically superior to them, and was capable of replenishing their troop numbers almost instantly, as opposed to their own numbers. The invasion was already well under way long before the Star Fox team got there. It wasn't a straight-up CurbStompBattle, the Aparoids won through ''sheer numbers'' and inexperience on the part of the planet's protectors.

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