History Fridge / RobinHood

17th Jul '16 11:13:22 PM lorgskyegon
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** Sir Hiss' horrified reaction is also historically accurate. At the time, the Church was a powerful political entity and a noble didn't have the right to judge a religious (for whom the canon law was applied). Of course, Hiss knows that. And he knows the dangers of upsetting the Pope.
* Also in the Disney film, while Robin is daydreaming while cooking, Little John tries to get his attention by calling increasingly extended forms of his name: first Rob, then Robin, and then Robert, using the French pronunciation (sounds like Ro-bear). It's easy to assume that this is because Little John is a bear in the film and that Ro-bear is a nickname. When you think about it further, the French pronunciation because they live under and speak the language of the Plantagenet dynasty, who are French!

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** Sir Hiss' horrified reaction is also historically accurate. At the time, the Church was a powerful political entity and a noble didn't have the right to judge a religious priest (for whom the canon law was applied). Of course, Hiss knows that. And he knows the dangers of upsetting the Pope.
* Also in the Disney film, while Robin is daydreaming while cooking, Little John tries to get his attention by calling increasingly extended forms of his name: first Rob, then Robin, and then Robert, using the French pronunciation (sounds like Ro-bear). It's easy to assume that this is because Little John is a bear in the film and that Ro-bear is a nickname. When you think about it further, the French pronunciation because they live under and speak the language of the Plantagenet dynasty, who are French!French and the language spoken in England at the time would have been an iteration called Anglo-Norman French.
3rd Jul '16 2:13:59 PM rufusluciusivan
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** Sir Hiss' horrified reaction is also historically accurate. At the time, the Church was a powerful political entity and a noble didn't have the right to judge a religious (for whom the canon law was applied). Of course, Hiss knows that. And he knows the dangers of upsetting the Pope.
12th Feb '16 11:08:38 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* A kid might not realize it at first, but the fact that Alan-a-Dale the Rooster is in jail too is a hilarious fourth wall breaking, the gag being that Prince John was so enraged with putting ''everybody'' in jail that for some reason he even managed to pull ''the narrator'' in there, even though he isn't part of the story. Seen in that light, the way we first hear his voice saying the beginning of his line, in a typical narrating, and seeing it being ended by a living character on-screen, is ''hilarious''.
**The gag is not helped, of course, by the fact that said Alan-a-Dale has already been physically seen earlier, and even warned us at one point that he would be narrating "what happened or what's happening", which already implies that his relationship to the story is closer than that of a normal narrator.



** Similarly, every adaptation of the Robin Hood legend which casts Prince John as the ultimate villain because he's "not the true king" runs into the ForegoneConclusion that he's going to end up being the true king anyway.

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** Similarly, every adaptation of the Robin Hood legend which casts Prince John as the ultimate villain because he's "not the true king" runs into the ForegoneConclusion that he's going to end up being the true king anyway.
11th Aug '15 6:55:34 PM Kimarous
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* In the 2010 movie king John swears on his mother's life that he will sign the charter(Magna Carta). However this oath loses a lot of its importance when you realize that King John DESPISES his mother and probably wouldn' hesitate to have her killed given the chance.

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* In the 2010 movie king movie, King John swears on his mother's life that he will sign the charter(Magna charter (Magna Carta). However However, this oath loses a lot of its importance when you realize that King John DESPISES his mother and probably wouldn' wouldn't hesitate to have her killed given the chance.
8th Jan '15 8:11:01 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Also in the Disney film, while Robin is daydreaming while cooking, Little John tries to get his attention by calling increasingly extended forms of his name: first Rob, then Robin, and then Robert, using the French pronunciation (sounds like Ro-bear). Growing up, I always thought this was because Little John is a bear in the film and that Ro-bear was a nickname. Just recently, though, upon rewatching the film, it hit me: he uses the French pronunciation because they live under and speak the language of the Plantagenet dynasty, who are French!

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* Also in the Disney film, while Robin is daydreaming while cooking, Little John tries to get his attention by calling increasingly extended forms of his name: first Rob, then Robin, and then Robert, using the French pronunciation (sounds like Ro-bear). Growing up, I always thought It's easy to assume that this was is because Little John is a bear in the film and that Ro-bear was is a nickname. Just recently, though, upon rewatching the film, When you think about it hit me: he uses further, the French pronunciation because they live under and speak the language of the Plantagenet dynasty, who are French!
26th Dec '14 12:43:10 AM dvorak
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* "The Phony King of England" is as close as Disney could get to the real-life BawdySong "The ''Bastard'' King of England" in a family flick; which is similarly a disparaging song aimed at Prince John.
5th Sep '14 4:14:16 PM jet556
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** Not to mention that in the legend Robin's birth name is Robert Fitzooth.
9th Jun '13 2:49:43 AM EmperorOshron
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* Also in the Disney film, while Robin is daydreaming while cooking, Little John tries to get his attention by calling increasingly extended forms of his name: first Rob, then Robin, and then Robert, using the French pronunciation (sounds like Ro-bear). Growing up, I always thought this was because Little John is a bear in the film and that Ro-bear was a nickname. Just recently, though, upon rewatching the film, it hit me: he uses the French pronunciation because they live under and speak the language of the Plantagenet dynasty, who are French!
25th May '12 12:55:35 PM Kitch
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* During the lines "Reminiscin' this and that and havin' such a good time" in [[EarWorm "Oo-De-Lally"]], Robin Hood and Little John are each urging the other to go first when crossing a river by log. The brilliance? In the original tale, the two meet when Little John prevents Robin Hood from using a log to cross the river; that's what they're remembering.

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* During From [[Disney/RobinHood the 1973 Disney film]], during the lines "Reminiscin' this and that and havin' such a good time" in [[EarWorm "Oo-De-Lally"]], Robin Hood and Little John are each urging the other to go first when crossing a river by log. The brilliance? In the original tale, the two meet when Little John prevents Robin Hood from using a log to cross the river; that's what they're remembering.
* Also in the 1973 film, Prince John decided to order the execution of Friar Tuck to lure Robin out, a suggestion even Sir Hiss was horrified by. However, there is historical context to this. John and Richard's father, King Henry II, had Thomas à Becket, then Archbishop of Canterbury, assassinated. Where do you think Prince John got the idea?



* In [[Disney/RobinHood the 1973 Disney cartoon]], the Rabbit family scrimped and saved to give Skippy a birthday present of one farthing - the smallest denomination of currency at that point. That's like having to save up to give someone a penny nowadays. Now imagine the economic hardship that would create that kind of situation.

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* In [[Disney/RobinHood the 1973 Disney cartoon]], film, the Rabbit family scrimped and saved to give Skippy a birthday present of one farthing - the smallest denomination of currency at that point. That's like having to save up to give someone a penny nowadays. Now imagine the economic hardship that would create that kind of situation.
9th May '12 2:20:28 PM Ashton
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* Maid Marian's death in ''Series/RobinHood'' was already a punch in the guts, but the real kicker comes when you realize that she died in order to save the life of King Richard. The same King Richard who eventually gets back to England, only to bugger off to Normandy and get killed there, giving Prince John the opportunity to ascend the throne and become King. So Marian died ''for absolutely nothing.''
** Similarly, every adaptation of the Robin Hood legend which casts Prince John as the ultimate villian because he's "not the true king" runs into the ForegoneConclusion that he's going to end up being the true king anyway.

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* [[spoiler: Maid Marian's Marian]]'s death in ''Series/RobinHood'' was already a punch in the guts, but the real kicker comes when you realize that she died in order to save the life of King Richard. The same King Richard who eventually gets back to England, only to bugger off to Normandy and get killed there, giving Prince John the opportunity to ascend the throne and become King. So Marian [[spoiler: Marian]] died ''for absolutely nothing.''
** Similarly, every adaptation of the Robin Hood legend which casts Prince John as the ultimate villian villain because he's "not the true king" runs into the ForegoneConclusion that he's going to end up being the true king anyway.
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