History Fridge / PokemonBlackAndWhite

15th Jan '16 2:54:26 PM Anddrix
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** On the same note, the concepts yin and yang for Americans are [[ViewersAreMorons backwards]]. Yang is not [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] and Yin is not [[LightIsNotGood light]]. They're reversed since the Chinese read right to left and Americans read left to right. Whether this is [[LampShadeHanging lampshaded]] is optional.
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** On the same note, the concepts yin and yang for Americans are [[ViewersAreMorons backwards]].backwards. Yang is not [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] and Yin is not [[LightIsNotGood light]]. They're reversed since the Chinese read right to left and Americans read left to right. Whether this is [[LampShadeHanging lampshaded]] is optional.
9th Jun '15 12:54:31 AM TaylorHyuuga
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"I've never left this place even once since I was born."
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25th May '15 5:34:10 AM Goomba99
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** Or it's the other way around, and Klink is another tsukomogami-based Pokémon.
21st Apr '15 11:47:14 AM Lulu611
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***** How do we know that that Kyurem hasn't frozen the forest before, and that's the reason why there are only pokemon that could survive a freeze?
12th Apr '15 8:04:24 PM ANewMan
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* The depiction of Ghetsis and Team Plasma in general. Ghetsis is the chief sage of the Team Plasma sages, who are styled like priests. Since N is the king and the Plasma grunts are knights, the sages would represent the Church, who were allied with the king and knights in holy crusades during the middle ages. To Team Plasma, freeing Pokemon is their holy crusade. Thus Ghetsis and his true intentions represents lies, hypocrisy, and corruption of a person who knowingly and maliciously takes advantage of beliefs held sacred by people and twists them into something to suit his dark, selfish ends. He even holds public sermons and preaches on the matters, when in reality he's full of crap. But it gets worse from there: he's outed as an EvilSorcerer type person who's scheming to take power as a tyrannical, despotic dictator. Hiding this under the ruse of priesthood makes him the lowest scum possible, so thus he gets a makeover once everyone knows what he truly is. He keeps his pointed, horn-like hairstyle, but now wears a black and red visor on his right eye (his left eye is already red.), wraps himself in a BlackCloak with creepy eyeball symbols decorating it, and carries around a staff with the Plasma insignia that is almost pitchfork-esque at a certain glance. So not only has Ghetsis gone from dark priest to all out EvilOverlord, but he's essentially styled as The Devil himself. His original name, G'Cis Harmonia, can even be translated as "the Devil in music." His battle theme sounds like a Dark Reprise to that of Arceus, the God Pokemon, and the opening for the "Episode N" arc of the anime even has him set against a red, fiery, flaming backdrop as he throws back his cape in a very Devil-like fashion. Based on the man's actions and behavior, it's hard not to see this depiction as fitting, but then it really hits you...Satan was running the Church! Is there perhaps some disturbing commentary on religious groups of KnightTemplar zealots here?
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* The depiction of Ghetsis and Team Plasma in general. Ghetsis is the chief sage of the Team Plasma sages, who are styled like priests. Since N is the king and the Plasma grunts are knights, the sages would represent the Church, who were allied with the king and knights in holy crusades during the middle ages. To Team Plasma, freeing Pokemon is their holy crusade. Thus Ghetsis and his true intentions represents lies, hypocrisy, and corruption of a person who knowingly and maliciously takes advantage of beliefs held sacred by people and twists them into something to suit his dark, selfish ends. He even holds public sermons and preaches on the matters, when in reality he's full of crap. But it gets worse from there: he's outed as an EvilSorcerer type person who's scheming to take power as a tyrannical, despotic dictator. Hiding this under the ruse of priesthood makes him the lowest scum possible, so thus he gets a makeover once everyone knows what he truly is. He keeps his pointed, horn-like hairstyle, but now wears a black and red visor on his right eye (his left eye is already red.), wraps himself in a BlackCloak with creepy eyeball symbols decorating it, and carries around a staff with the Plasma insignia that is almost pitchfork-esque at a certain glance. So not only has Ghetsis gone from dark priest to all out EvilOverlord, but he's essentially styled as The Devil TheDevil himself. His original name, G'Cis Harmonia, can even be translated as "the Devil in music." His battle theme sounds like a Dark Reprise to that of Arceus, the God Pokemon, and the opening for the "Episode N" arc of the anime even has him set against a red, fiery, flaming backdrop as he throws back his cape in a very Devil-like fashion. Based on the man's actions and behavior, it's hard not to see this depiction as fitting, but then it really hits you...Satan was running the Church! Is there perhaps some disturbing commentary on religious groups of KnightTemplar zealots here?
12th Apr '15 8:03:03 PM ANewMan
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* The depiction of Ghetsis and Team Plasma in general. Ghetsis is the chief sage of the Team Plasma sages, who are styled like priests. Since N is the king and the Plasma grunts are knights, the sages would represent the Church, who were allied with the king and knights in holy crusades during the middle ages. To Team Plasma, freeing Pokemon is their holy crusade. Thus Ghetsis and his true intentions represents lies, hypocrisy, and corruption of a person who knowingly and maliciously takes advantage of beliefs held sacred by people and twists them into something to suit his dark, selfish ends. He even holds public sermons and preaches on the matters, when in reality he's full of crap. But it gets worse from there: he's outed as an EvilSorcerer type person who's scheming to take power as a tyrannical, despotic dictator. Hiding this under the ruse of priesthood makes him the lowest scum possible, so thus he gets a makeover once everyone knows what he truly is. He keeps his pointed, horn-like hairstyle, but now wears a black and red visor on his right eye (his left eye is already red.), wraps himself in a BlackCloak with creepy eyeball symbols decorating it, and carries around a staff with the Plasma insignia that is almost pitchfork-esque at a certain glance. So not only has Ghetsis gone from dark priest to all out EvilOverlord, but he's essentially styled as The Devil himself. His original name, G'Cis Harmonia, can even be translated as "the Devil in music." His battle theme sounds like a Dark Reprise to that of Arceus, the God Pokemon, and the opening for the "Episode N" arc of the anime even has him set against a red, fiery, flaming backdrop as he throws back his cape in a very Devil-like fashion. Based on the man's actions and behavior, it's hard not to see this depiction as fitting, but then it really hits you...Satan was running the Church! Is there perhaps some disturbing commentary on religious groups of KnightTemplar zealots here? ** Ghetsis can also be seen as playing an evil version of Merlin to N's King Arthur, and also an inversion - rather than helping the king claim the throne, he's using the king to help ''him'' claim the throne.

*** Also fitting for a man with a name based on the TRItone, he has THREE horn-like strands of hair.

** Hell, just Ghetsis' plans in general.
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** Hell, just Ghetsis' plans in general. Just look at his big one in the game: [[spoiler:Ghetsis knew a self-centered man like him could never be the hero of legend, so he raised his own son N specifically to fit the qualifications needed to be the hero and to be the key pawn in his master plan. He kept N locked up in a room filled with toys for years in order to stunt his emotional growth, and had Anthea and Concordia frequently tend to him so that his innocence and purity could be preserved. He himself told N that Team Plasma was fighting to liberate Pokemon from their captivity and oppression at the hands of humans, and even provided abused Pokemon for N as playmates. Ghetsis' own minions had abused the Pokemon and since N could hear their thoughts and feel their pain, he came to believe that all humans hurt Pokemon and that all Pokemon long to be far away from humans. After N had come of age and was crowned Team Plasma's king, Ghetsis began his crusade to capture the hearts and minds of the trainer population, the grand crescendo of which would come when N, using Reshiram or Zekrom, could defeat the Champion and allow Team Plasma to take over the league. N would then issue a command to every human in the Unova region to release all their Pokemon or risk the region's destruction again. In reverence of the hero and the belief that his way is the truth or ideal ("having Pokemon will be considered a bad thing" as Ghetsis puts it), the trainers would release all their Pokemon...which would leave Ghetsis and his select followers as the only ones with Pokemon that they're able to use. After N's purpose had been served, Ghetsis would throw him away and take Reshiram/Zekrom for himself, and then with his personal Pokemon army headed by the legendary Pokemon of the hero, would go to war with all other regions and repeat the process so that more region's worth of Pokemon get added to his forces. The more Pokemon, the more power, and with enough power, Ghetsis could take over the entire world, bringing about a Dystopian new world order in which he, as the ruler who is the only one allowed to have and use Pokemon, has unlimited influence, privilege, and control over everything that lives and is free to oppress and suppress everyone by using threat of force via his supepowered mons. And the reason for all this? He felt entitled to it.]]

*** And if Ghetsis did take over Unova, the entire economy of Unova would be a wreck.
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*** And if Ghetsis did take over Unova, the entire economy of Unova would be a wreck.wreck, since everything revolves around Pokemon. *** As dictator of not just Unova but the entire world, Ghetsis would turn the world into one where every day was one of suffering under his reign - a world where your oppressors have all the power to harm you and keep you in line (as the only ones able to use Pokemon) and you lack the power to fight back, and are thus made to feel enslaved in this dystopian world order. It's a FateWorseThanDeath, arguably as horrific as Cyrus' vision for the world, if not moreso seeing as here you'd keep your emotions and would thus feel every last bit of pain.

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*** And if Ghetsis did take over ** In general, Ghetsis' sadism is disturbing, but it becomes moreso when you consider that many of the things he does, in both games, can be considered forms of torture - physical torture (his Pokemon abuse, what he does to Kyurem and has Kyurem do to Unova, commanding Kyurem use Glaciate on a human child), emotional torture (his treatment of N and what he has Team Plasma put a lot of people through), and even psychological torture (towards N and to an extent all the masses of Unova through his plan with the freezeover of the entire economy region). And when you look at his Pokemon team, all of Unova would his Pokemon seem to be a wreck.tailor-made for use as living torture weapons on his enemies and their Pokemon. Team Plasma's initial medieval style might also be part of this, seeing as brutality and torture chambers were big in the middle ages.
4th Jan '15 9:56:49 PM leafeon
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* The world of Black is tech-savvy and the world of White is nature-based. Their respective legendaries have opposite themes. There are two reasons for this. One, this ties in the Tao theme really well; they are the other, opposite colored dot of the world. Two, [[spoiler:N tries to fight you with the correctly-themed dragon; this is the dragon who probably won over the other the first time, hence how Unova came out.]] You conquering the opposite-themed dragon and it conquering the other shows that what it represents is just as valid as the other, not better or worse. -Tropers/TheViolentTomboy ** Precisely. Not just simple colors on opposite ends of the spectrum, but the ideas of differing world views that can be seen with Black and White morality as opposed to Shades of Gray. N says that straight up at one point. * As of June, 2010, a new Gen V Pokémon was revealed as the local bird. It was a pigeon. At first I was all like, "WTF", but then, I remembered that Unova is filled with CITIES! * Little minor thing, but the Waiter sports fan who battles you in the Stadiums has a CLAMPERL and gives you a FRESH WATER. So, basically, you're (or your team members, really) drinking Pokémon spit. Fridge squick, indeed. Is that the case if you're stranded in a desert with only a water Pokémon? Would that be your means of survival? ** Isn't it just possible that the Waiter was carrying around a bottle of water from a vending machine or a store? Plus wouldn't having your water Pokémon use up its own water while in a desert be a bit hazardous if survival is at stake since it might dehydrate if it doesn't retain as much water as possible? Plus regurgitated water would likely make you sick. ** Thinking back, the waiter probably had the bottle of water with him so that his Clamperl could stay hydrated, regardless of where the two of them went. ** This troper was just hit with some fridge brilliance. Waiter sports fans handing out water... water boys! * The mascots are Dragon / Fire and Dragon / Electric dual types. Team Plasma tries to get one. Plasma is a state of matter that can be formed by FIRE and is typically part of LIGHTNING. So, Team Plasma is getting a component of itself. A helluva lot better than the "Galactic wants Time/Space/Antimatter" from D/P/Pt. * In Opelucid City, there is a man in White that wants to get in contact with his son in the future to see how he turned out. I ignored this until my friend showed me her Black version: Opelucid City is completely high tech and non-relic looking like it was in mine. When she went to the same building, there was the guy's son, wanting to reach the past. It then occurred to me that this means that White takes place in the past, and Black takes place in the future, and the comment about the battle with the legendaries being a repeating cycle hit me like a brick. ~UltimaWraith ** Actually, this isn't quite true. It is heavily implied by other characters in the game that Black and White happen at exactly the same time, but in different, parallel worlds. *** Wonder how they will adapt that for the Anime... **** There are two movies coming out with similar plot lines and minor differences in each Victini and the Black Hero Zekrom and Victini and the White Hero Reshiram. * [[WordOfGod The creators stated]] that the three starters of Isshu/Unova are each based on a different part of the world: Japan, China, and the West (specifically, France). Now, counting the version mascots (and assuming that Kyurem will be the third version mascot), we also have three legendary trios. What are they each based on? Japanese gods, the Chinese concept of Yin and Yang, and the French novel Literature/TheThreeMusketeers. -- Dragoryu3000 * Chargestone Cave might seem like a cheap gimmick of a cave. It's basically an electrically-charged cave that doesn't seem to exist for any particular reason. However, when one looks at the Pokémon in the cave, they seem to be rather odd. We normally associate plants and insects with nature and metal and electricity with technology. The cave itself is a blend of nature and technology, as well as the Pokémon who inhabit it, who are a blend of nature and technology themselves; Ferroseed is a mix of nature and technology because it's a plant (natural), but it has a metallic coating (unnatural), and Joltik is a mix of nature and technology because it's a bug (natural), but it can manipulate electricity (unnatural). ** Interesting if you consider the version mascots representing nature and technology. The Aesop of the game is not the clashing of two different things, but understanding and adapting each other, right? In fact, what about Genesect? * [[Tropers/{{Delpolo}} I]] realized on a second playthrough that after saving Bianca's Munna early on, Iris gives you a Yache berry. Of course the Dragon Gym Leader gives you a berry lowering Ice damage! * Some may find it strange that Reshiram (a white Pokémon) is the mascot of Black Version, and Zekrom (a black Pokémon) is the mascot of White Version. But let the fact that they're based on yin and yang sink into your mind for a bit. What does the symbol for yin and yang contain? A white dot in a black area (Reshiram) and a black dot in a white area (Zekrom). --Tropers/SilverHeartStar ** In philosophy, we were learning about Taoism and Yin & Yang. Reshiram and Zekrom came to mind immediately, but it wasn't until the professor mentioned the dots in the symbol that I understood why they weren't the mascot of the corresponding game. ** On the same note, the concepts yin and yang for Americans are [[ViewersAreMorons backwards]]. Yang is not [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] and Yin is not [[LightIsNotGood light]]. They're reversed since the Chinese read right to left and Americans read left to right. Whether this is [[LampShadeHanging lampshaded]] is optional. ** Also that the mascots would be almost invisible on the game covers due to them being almost entirely one color with no shade variation. * At first the Unova Dex's terrible learn sets (most Pokémon can't find anything beyond STAB and normal moves) seemed like bad design, then it struck me. ''Gen V was meant to evoke Gen I''. Gen I ''did'' have terrible learn sets all around, all with the exact same issue! ** This is both FridgeBrilliance and FridgeLogic at the same time -- "bad on purpose" is still ''bad''. - Tropers/{{Metz77}} ** Or, it was because now that [=TMs=] are no longer single-use, you don't need to rely on a Pokémon's natural learnset anymore. * In the OST, the theme that plays when N appears is called 'The Equated Captives'. When this troper first read that, before I finished the game, I assumed it was a reference to the way N equates all Pokémon as being captives of trainers. But on checking the OST again after finishing it, it became obvious: [[spoiler:the 'equated captive' is N himself! He was kept captive in his room by his father, in order to satisfy an equation for power he had worked out! To drive the idea home, a remix of the theme - 'The Child Of Pokémon, N' -- plays when you visit the room in which he was held captive! This makes even more sense in Japanese -- the language doesn't designate plurals, so you'd go through the game reading the title as 'The Equated Captives', until you reached the end and realized that it was actually 'The Equated Captive', singular!]] - Tropers/ClockStopping ** Another common translation for that track is "One Captivated by Formulae". This can of course allude to N's general [[MadMathematician interest in mathematics]], but then again, also stand for [[spoiler:his near-obsession with finding the "equitation that changes the world" (i.e. freeing the Pokémon). And then of course, him being held captive by his father in the Plasma castle is still valid too]]. ** [[spoiler:The English title to the song, "Prisoner to a Formula," means the same thing. N is the prisoner (in the room) for Ghetsis's formula for power.]] * You can trade for a Basculin that has an ability no other Basculin has. I have recently gotten into trading on the GTS for the Shiny breeding benefits and Dex completion, but am paranoid of hacks. But you can trade for an "illegal" Pokémon right in the game! Perhaps GameFreak was just slipping in the message that they really don't care if you hack Pokémon? There's so much hack-exclusive bonus material in ''all'' the games, so I really shouldn't be surprised by this. - AlternateMew ** The "hax" ability in question is Rock Head, whereas a normal ability any Basculin can possess is Reckless. Rock Head prevents recoil damage from attacks like Double-Edge, while Reckless increases the power of recoil attacks (and the subsequent recoil). Since both abilities are essentially equal to one another, it was likely either intentional on Game Freak's part, or a minor mix-up in coding, but it really doesn't affect much. ** I thought that this was meant to extend the government metaphor with the exact opposite ability being available on the colour Basculin you can't normally get as an example as how different the opposing sides are. ** Turns out that's wrong: Red Basculin are supposed to have Reckless and Blue Basculin are supposed to have Rock Head, but because of a bug, all Basculin have Reckless. The traded Basculin just got lucky by being the only Blue Basculin to be unaffected by the bug. * [[spoiler:Anyone ever wonder why N never has the same team twice? He releases them after he battles you! This also explains why they're Pokémon you can find in the immediate area!]] ** [[spoiler:Confirmed in a Memory Link in Black 2 and Whtie 2 you can unlock, where it shows N releasing his Pokémon after the fight in Chargestone Cave from Black and White. You can also catch his released Pokémon]]. * At first, it struck this troper as odd that there were so many more black characters in 5th gen than in the others. But then it struck me: Unova is based off of America -- of course there are more black people than in the Japanese-based regions! * N is this so much. His party changes each time, because he's the leader of a Pokémon Rights Group which doesn't believe in keeping Pokémon. When this philosophy begins to break down, he appears to keep a Pokémon and even evolve it. His full name is Natural Harmonia Gropius. N and Harmonia creates "enharmonic". N is an empty variable, the same as the character is an empty variable in Team Plasma's plot. N means natural number, and he's a mathematician. The Menger Sponge around his belt has infinite value (N becomes king) and no value (he's a figurehead) at the same time. It seems like N was designed just to radiate this trope. * Just realised. Kyurem has just got a Zekrom form and a Reshiram form. However, these still have ice on them. This is because it's ''not complete''. Kyurem is the body from which ''both'' Zekrom and Reshiram came from. It's not complete without ''both'' of them. * Unova's Victory Road is a tall, dome-shaped hill pockmarked with a multitude of random entrance/exit holes that lead to a vast network of caverns. While you'll find the typical Rock-types and bat Pokemon inside, the most common wild Pokemon nesting in the cave is the Bug/Steel hybrid, Durant. Outside, your most common opponent is the fiery anteater, Heatmor (Durant's natural predator). Victory Road is a giant termite mound appropriated by the Pokemon League as their "final gauntlet" for prospective challengers. ** That explains the landslides that made it inaccessible in Black and White 2: It eventually became unstable due to the incressing amount of tunnels and trainers traversing the place! * Similar to how Gen 1 hid Spanish in the Legendary Birds' names, there is German in one of the Gen 5 pseudo-legendary evolutuion families: dEINo, ZWEIlous, and hyDREIgon. Again, one, two, three. * It just occurred to me: according to Bulbapedia, Genesect is an abandoned Team Plasma experiment. It uses drives to change its type. Arceus uses plates for the same purpose. Team Plasma was trying to create the god and creator of Pokemon in their own image! ** Except drives don't change his type. In at least BW (because we don't know what they prepared for sequels...), he is always Bug/Steel. Only Techno Blast changes type, and ironically that signature move is inferior in Fire-, Electric-, and Ice-types as the only Water-type move Genesect can get is Hidden Power. Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam - they all have more PP and power than Techno Blast, plus they have additional effects. [[labelnote:*]]This is only true in Generation V. As of Generation VI, Techno Blast is stronger than Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam. Apparently Game Freak realized that they'd accidentally made Genesect's signature move nearly useless and fixed it.[[/labelnote]] Without a Drive it's Normal-type, and aside from Selfdestruct, Explosion, Hyper Beam, and Giga Impact, and they all have drawbacks. * Inside Giant Chasm, from the top it appears that the area is enshrouded in thick fog. Because of the snow that falls, it can also be seen as snow clouds, not just fog. But taking it a step further, both mascot legendary Pokemon show that they can evaporate water, and thus melt ice. So now we have a reference to Kyurem being a part of the trio, the clouds are made of water that was once ice, which was melted! * N throughout the game goes from polite (though somewhat creepy) to increasingly confrontational and belligerent. It wasn't until beating him for the final time and reading the text that this troper realized: N believes that all Trainers abuse Pokemon and that Pokemon would be happier being free. But all he's encountered since he started travelling was Trainers and Pokemon getting along. He's been suffering from a VillainousBreakdown throughout the game! * I was always somewhat disappointed by the supposed lack of creativity in the Klink line's design until I realised that in the gameverse, gears were based on Klinks! * In the start of the game, you have a Pokémon battle in your room. After this, your room is a mess - but your Wii and TV is completely fine and didn't even seem to get hit. Now, we all know Nintendo consoles are made of [[MadeOfIndestructium Nintendium]]... * Bianca. As someone mentioned on the Black 2 & White 2 page, it's very possible that she's near-sighted, and didn't get corrective lenses until after the events of BW. Also, any or all of these may be true, as well: ## She makes an interesting contrast to the protagonist, if you think about it. Where raising Pokémon comes naturally to the protagonist, she's not that good at it and makes mistakes. Where the protagonist's mother trusts them enough to let them explore the world with naught but their Pokémon for protection while they're still a kid, her father feels she's too young to go out on her own and needs to be protected. ## She's closer to what someone that's not as gifted as the protagonist or the champion would be like. Notice how very few trainers in the games are skilled enough to raise full teams at the same time, and can only handle a few Pokémon. The protagonist can easily handle a full six without any problem. Then again, the games never outright state that the protagonist is a prodigy or anything, it's also possible that they're just more motivated to raise full teams than most trainers, or that they have more Pokémon because they explore the world instead of just staying in their own little corner of it. ## Bianca seems to have been intended to be closer to a normal trainer or an average beginner than the protagonist. This works nicely with the protagonist being intended to be a prodigy. ## She might be a space case, too, and a little detached from reality, which would explain a lot. It would also tie into her becoming the professor's assistant in the region where dreams are being researched, even if she's not actually working with the people doing the dream stuff. * When you fight N in his castle, his respective dragon is at level 52. Your dragon is at level 50. N was [[CurbStompBattle curbstomping]] the Elite 4 and Alder before you arrived, so it'd make sense that he'd gain enough experience points from beating them to level up once or twice. * At level 85, two of the Forces of Nature (Tornadus and Thundurus, to be exact) learn Thrash as their final move, whereas Landorus leans Outrage. May look like nothing, but take look at the myth again. The legend goes that Landorus punished Tornadus and Thundurus for bringing massive destruction to Unova. In other words, Landorus became OUTRAGEd because Tornadus and Thundurus rampaged and attacked, which is how the in-game text describes the move Thrash.
27th Aug '14 10:49:41 PM Thexder
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* [[spoiler:Ghetsis himself admits]] "The moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment." Now consider [[spoiler:when he revealed to N that he was an UnwittingPawn, crush. [[TheWoobie He wants to finally be seen as a good guy.]] ** Garbodor/Trubbish have Aftermath. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments They seek VENGEANCE!]] *** Or maybe that's the consequence of attacking a trash bag. Beat it, they break, and you get covered in crap. ** Nidoking/queen: Sheer Force - they want more power! ** Psyduck: Swift Swim - remember how Misty's Psyduck couldn't swim in the anime? ** Eevee: Anticipation - they wanna know what they're gonna evolve into! ** Teddiursa: Honey Gather - it can be its own supply of honey! ** Raikou/Entei/Suicune: Volt Absorb/Flash Fire/Water Absorb - following the theory they are Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon that were revived by Ho-Oh, they want to be like their previous, better, life. ** Banette: Cursed Body - It just wants to hurt everything it comes in contact with. ** Perhaps this belongs in the FridgeHorror section, but Slowpoke gets Regenerator. Let that sink in.[[note]]Slowpoke tails are considered delicacies in and around Kanto/Johto.[[/note]] ** Paras and Parasect get Damp -- Dry Skin (and 5x weakness) no more! *** Mushrooms grow better in damp environments than dry ones. ** Onix gets Weak Armor. [[FakeUltimateMook Now why does that sound familiar?]] ** Caterpie, Weedle and Wurmple all got Run Away... [[WhatTheHellHero The guilt trip works...]] ** Qwilfish gets Intimidate. Oddly hilarious (and kind of adorable) from a puffer fish. ** Corsola gets Regenerator, too -- well, it IS based on coral! ** Smeargle's Moody is worth a laugh, too. As cliche (and [[GameBreaker broken]]) as it is, there's a reason the phrase ing his hopes and dreams.]] The implications is that this MoralEventHorizon wasn't just done out of anger, ''[[ForTheEvulz but sadism.]]'' Indeed, [[spoiler:N's entire life of being manipulated]] could've been [[spoiler:something Ghetsis ''was turned on by.'']] He may have [[MindRape mindraped]] [[spoiler:his own son]] without him even knowing it.
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* [[spoiler:Ghetsis himself admits]] "The moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment." Now consider [[spoiler:when he revealed to N that he was an UnwittingPawn, crush. [[TheWoobie He wants to finally be seen as a good guy.]] ** Garbodor/Trubbish have Aftermath. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments They seek VENGEANCE!]] *** Or maybe that's the consequence of attacking a trash bag. Beat it, they break, and you get covered in crap. ** Nidoking/queen: Sheer Force - they want more power! ** Psyduck: Swift Swim - remember how Misty's Psyduck couldn't swim in the anime? ** Eevee: Anticipation - they wanna know what they're gonna evolve into! ** Teddiursa: Honey Gather - it can be its own supply of honey! ** Raikou/Entei/Suicune: Volt Absorb/Flash Fire/Water Absorb - following the theory they are Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon that were revived by Ho-Oh, they want to be like their previous, better, life. ** Banette: Cursed Body - It just wants to hurt everything it comes in contact with. ** Perhaps this belongs in the FridgeHorror section, but Slowpoke gets Regenerator. Let that sink in.[[note]]Slowpoke tails are considered delicacies in and around Kanto/Johto.[[/note]] ** Paras and Parasect get Damp -- Dry Skin (and 5x weakness) no more! *** Mushrooms grow better in damp environments than dry ones. ** Onix gets Weak Armor. [[FakeUltimateMook Now why does that sound familiar?]] ** Caterpie, Weedle and Wurmple all got Run Away... [[WhatTheHellHero The guilt trip works...]] ** Qwilfish gets Intimidate. Oddly hilarious (and kind of adorable) from a puffer fish. ** Corsola gets Regenerator, too -- well, it IS based on coral! ** Smeargle's Moody is worth a laugh, too. As cliche (and [[GameBreaker broken]]) as it is, there's a reason the phrase ing crushing his hopes and dreams.]] The implications is that this MoralEventHorizon wasn't just done out of anger, ''[[ForTheEvulz but sadism.]]'' Indeed, [[spoiler:N's entire life of being manipulated]] could've been [[spoiler:something Ghetsis ''was turned on by.'']] He may have [[MindRape mindraped]] [[spoiler:his own son]] without him even knowing it.

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* [[spoiler:Ghetsis himself admits]] "The moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment." Now consider [[spoiler:when he revealed to N that he was an UnwittingPawn, crush. [[TheWoobie He wants to finally be seen as a good guy.]] ** Garbodor/Trubbish have Aftermath. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments They seek VENGEANCE!]] *** Or maybe that's the consequence of attacking a trash bag. Beat it, they break, and you get covered in crap. ** Nidoking/queen: Sheer Force - they want more power! ** Psyduck: Swift Swim - remember how Misty's Psyduck couldn't swim in the anime? ** Eevee: Anticipation - they wanna know what they're gonna evolve into! ** Teddiursa: Honey Gather - it can be its own supply of honey! ** Raikou/Entei/Suicune: Volt Absorb/Flash Fire/Water Absorb - following the theory they are Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon that were revived by Ho-Oh, they want to be like their previous, better, life. ** Banette: Cursed Body - It just wants to hurt everything it comes in contact with. ** Perhaps this belongs in the FridgeHorror section, but Slowpoke gets Regenerator. Let that sink in.[[note]]Slowpoke tails are considered delicacies in and around Kanto/Johto.[[/note]] ** Paras and Parasect get Damp -- Dry Skin (and 5x weakness) no more! *** Mushrooms grow better in damp environments than dry ones. ** Onix gets Weak Armor. [[FakeUltimateMook Now why does that sound familiar?]] ** Caterpie, Weedle and Wurmple all got Run Away... [[WhatTheHellHero The guilt trip works...]] ** Qwilfish gets Intimidate. Oddly hilarious (and kind of adorable) from a puffer fish. ** Corsola gets Regenerator, too -- well, it IS based on coral! ** Smeargle's Moody is worth a laugh, too. As cliche (and [[GameBreaker broken]]) as it is, there's a reason the phrase ing his hopes and dreams.]] The implications is that this MoralEventHorizon wasn't just done out of anger, ''[[ForTheEvulz but sadism.]]'' Indeed, [[spoiler:N's entire life of being manipulated]] could've been [[spoiler:something Ghetsis ''was turned on by.'']] He may have [[MindRape mindraped]] [[spoiler:his own son]] without him even knowing it.
27th Aug '14 10:46:08 PM Thexder
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** Chandelure has Shadow Tag. It doesn't want it's prey to escape...
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** Chandelure has Shadow Tag. It doesn't want it's its prey to escape...

*** As computers (or supercomputers, like Metagross is said to be) are redesigned and upgraded through the years, they become lighter -- compare a 1950s computer to a MacBook Air.
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*** As computers (or supercomputers, like Metagross is said to be) are redesigned and upgraded through the years, they become lighter -- compare a 1950s computer to a MacBook {{Mac}}Book Air.

* Despite having a 87.5/12.5 male/female gender ratio, the event Zorua and Zoroark will always be male and female, respectively. Now, consider the genders(and ages) of the illusion people they appear to be at first. This was reflected in the anime by giving them the same genders.
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* Despite having a 87.5/12.5 male/female gender ratio, the event Zorua and Zoroark will always be male and female, respectively. Now, consider the genders(and genders (and ages) of the illusion people they appear to be at first. This was reflected in the anime by giving them the same genders.

* Why is Excadrill so small (2'4")? If it and Krookodile were ''really'' intended to be homages to ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', then it would be the ideal size for an [[FastballSpecial EXCADRILL IMPACT!!!!!]]
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* Why is Excadrill so small (2'4")? If it and Krookodile were ''really'' intended to be homages to ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', then it would be the ideal size for an [[FastballSpecial EXCADRILL IMPACT!!!!!]]

* [[spoiler:Ghetsis himself admits]] "The moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment." Now consider [[spoiler:when he revealed to N that he was an UnwittingPawn, crushing his hopes and dreams.]] The implications is that this MoralEventHorizon wasn't just done out of anger, ''[[ForTheEvulz but sadism.]]'' Indeed, [[spoiler:N's entire life of being manipulated]] could've been [[spoiler:something Ghetsis ''was turned on by.'']] He may have [[MindRape mindraped]] [[spoiler:his own son]] without him even knowing it.
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* [[spoiler:Ghetsis himself admits]] "The moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment." Now consider [[spoiler:when he revealed to N that he was an UnwittingPawn, crushing crush. [[TheWoobie He wants to finally be seen as a good guy.]] ** Garbodor/Trubbish have Aftermath. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments They seek VENGEANCE!]] *** Or maybe that's the consequence of attacking a trash bag. Beat it, they break, and you get covered in crap. ** Nidoking/queen: Sheer Force - they want more power! ** Psyduck: Swift Swim - remember how Misty's Psyduck couldn't swim in the anime? ** Eevee: Anticipation - they wanna know what they're gonna evolve into! ** Teddiursa: Honey Gather - it can be its own supply of honey! ** Raikou/Entei/Suicune: Volt Absorb/Flash Fire/Water Absorb - following the theory they are Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon that were revived by Ho-Oh, they want to be like their previous, better, life. ** Banette: Cursed Body - It just wants to hurt everything it comes in contact with. ** Perhaps this belongs in the FridgeHorror section, but Slowpoke gets Regenerator. Let that sink in.[[note]]Slowpoke tails are considered delicacies in and around Kanto/Johto.[[/note]] ** Paras and Parasect get Damp -- Dry Skin (and 5x weakness) no more! *** Mushrooms grow better in damp environments than dry ones. ** Onix gets Weak Armor. [[FakeUltimateMook Now why does that sound familiar?]] ** Caterpie, Weedle and Wurmple all got Run Away... [[WhatTheHellHero The guilt trip works...]] ** Qwilfish gets Intimidate. Oddly hilarious (and kind of adorable) from a puffer fish. ** Corsola gets Regenerator, too -- well, it IS based on coral! ** Smeargle's Moody is worth a laugh, too. As cliche (and [[GameBreaker broken]]) as it is, there's a reason the phrase ing his hopes and dreams.]] The implications is that this MoralEventHorizon wasn't just done out of anger, ''[[ForTheEvulz but sadism.]]'' Indeed, [[spoiler:N's entire life of being manipulated]] could've been [[spoiler:something Ghetsis ''was turned on by.'']] He may have [[MindRape mindraped]] [[spoiler:his own son]] without him even knowing it.

*** Because we neither eat raw carbon or are made of raw carbon. [[labelnote:side note...]]why are we considered carbon based when we're something like 75% water, which has no carbon? Not that it really matters in this disscussion...[[/labelnote]]
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*** Because we neither eat raw carbon or are made of raw carbon. [[labelnote:side note...]]why are we considered carbon based when we're something like 75% water, which has no carbon? Not that it really matters in this disscussion...discussion...[[/labelnote]]
1st Aug '14 10:58:56 AM MattDruzian
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* Sigilyph are said to have once guarded an ancient city, which explains what they're doing in the Resort Desert.
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* Sigilyph are said to have once guarded an ancient city, which explains what they're doing in the Resort Desert.Desert Resort.
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