History Fridge / MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots

** Very oddly confirmed in ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance''. Gekkos and Metal Gears still continue to be made, and war continues like business as usual. [[spoiler: And the most Snake can do is have his soul empower a wooden, non-lethal sword for Raiden to utilize.]]

* At the end of the game [[spoiler: Snake has destroyed the Patriots, but that does not mean the Metal Gears have been destroyed and nothing will stop them from being rebuilt as long as the blueprints are still around. This was Snake's last hurrah, I don't want to live in a world without Solid Snake!]]

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* Snake's support team in Metal Gear Solid chide him for harming himself by smoking. When he said he didn't care about the risks of smoking compared to the risks of being a soldier, they responded that he hurt others with second hand smoke. So in [=MGS2=], he has cigs that give off no second hand smoke. When Otacon complains that he's still littering with his cigarette butts, snake starts to carry around a portable ash tray in [=MGS4=].

* In MGS2, Otacon almost exclusively referred to his stepsister Emma as [[EmbarassingNickname "E.E."]] Emma's wish was that Otacon respect her as a woman and refer to her as "Emma," which he [[spoiler: failed to honor before her death]]. Come MGS4, he only refers to her as Emma; not once is her old nickname referenced.

* [[spoiler:The identities of the Patriots being Naked Snake's former support crew from ''MetalGearSolid3'' seems like a bit of an AssPull, until one realizes that it was Major Zero who coined the name of the organization, as well as the use of the term "La-li-lu-le-lo" (although the Director's commentary in the aforementioned game mentioned that "patriots" in that case were more a reference to the term rather than the name of the organization). It's also worth remembering that they aren't revealed to be the Patriots anyway, only the founders; it's just that the ''current'' Patriots, the AI system, aren't seen after the end of ''Sons of Liberty.'']]

* Also, in ''MetalGearSolid3'', The Boss made EVA and Ocelot swear never to kill nor aid in killing Naked Snake (the former was explicitly stated whereas Ocelot was more implied). When taking that into account, it's really no wonder why EVA and Ocelot ended up betraying (the former openly, and the latter covertly) the Patriots and attempting to destroy them after Zanzibar Land.** The nationalities of the three most prominent founders of the Patriots ([[spoiler: Big Boss (American), Revolver Ocelot (Russian), and EVA (Chinese))]] corresponds to the three countries that founded the Philosophers. This is fitting, since [[spoiler: the Patriots used the Philosophers as their cover to make it look like they had been around longer than they really had]].
* Since Liquid was a clone just like his brother, he would have eventually fallen victim to the same accelerated aging that Snake did. This means that had Liquid survived [[MetalGearSolid the Shadow Moses takeover]], he would probably look a lot like the seventy-something year old Ocelot does in [=MGS4=]. When you think about it, this makes Ocelot's masquerade just that little bit more believable: he looks just like Liquid would look if he were still alive.
* [[spoiler: In ''MetalGearSolid3'', we learned that Major Zero is a huge fan of the JamesBond movies. Here, we see how much he resembles a James Bond villain himself. He's an affable, witty British man with an evil-looking scar over his eye, and he takes over America with supercomputers. But unlike a classic Bond bad guy, his plan actually succeeds. His Bond-like nemesis (Big Boss) doesn't defeat him until over fifty years later...when he's an invalid old man, and he only needs to unplug his breathing machine. Maybe watching all those Bond movies make him GenreSavvy enough to succeed]].

* This game represents Kojima's last attempt to duct tape every errant thread in the cloth of the pre-existing MetalGear continuity into a coherent whole, therefore an iota of contestable confusion was inevitable. That there aren't more is a testament to Kojima's writing skill.

* FridgeLogic: This series has never done a very good job of acknowledging street-level civilians, but the cemetery scene at the end is especially problematic:
** For one thing, [[spoiler: why the hell is the cemetery ''always'' empty when Snake and/or Big Boss decide to visit it? It's a military cemetery, so shouldn't it have guards or soldiers on duty?]]
** For another, [[spoiler: how would an innocent bystander have reacted if they'd seen two old guys having a fist-fight in a public cemetery? Wouldn't somebody have called the cops?]]
*** This may surprise you, but cemeteries, outside of when an actual funeral is going on, aren't hugely buzzing with activity. I don't think there's any real problem with a cemetery being empty in and of itself. And no, I don't think Arlington Cemetery has guards, at least not more than a couple at the gate, maybe.
*** Not to mention that it's an absolutely enormous cemetery, so the altercation would be easy to miss.
** For that matter, how would ''you'' have reacted if you'd seen [[spoiler: Big Boss pushing around a wheelchair-bound old man with a respirator, then pulling the plug on the old man in broad daylight before dropping dead himself?]]
*** That's presuming that anyone would recognize him. He's supposed to be dead, after all.
*** They wouldn't have to recognize the guy. Seeing ''anyone'' doing that in broad daylight would raise a few eyebrows.
*** Except, as is clear and I mentioned before, there's nobody else around at the time anyway. The fact that nobody's around a cemetery (which, again, are not exactly popular hangouts) to see it shouldn't be surprising.
** [[spoiler: How the hell was Big Boss planning on disposing of the bodies? Did he think the local garbage man was just going to come by and wheel them off?]]
*** He wasn't planning on it, on account of being, you know, dead by the end of the scene. And no, two extremely old people dying isn't such a huge deal that it's going to garner ''that'' much attention. Snake could call the cops, let them know that two old geezers kicked, and that's that.
* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler:The identities of the Patriots being Naked Snake's former support crew from ''MetalGearSolid3'' seems like a bit of an AssPull, until one realizes that it was Major Zero who coined the name of the organization, as well as the use of the term "La-li-lu-le-lo" (although the Director's commentary in the aforementioned game mentioned that "patriots" in that case were more a reference to the term rather than the name of the organization). It's also worth remembering that they aren't revealed to be the Patriots anyway, only the founders; it's just that the ''current'' Patriots, the AI system, aren't seen after the end of ''Sons of Liberty.'']]
** One of the more subtle callbacks of the game--when Raiden makes his first appearance, he holds his sword out in front of Snake and Naomi in exactly the same way that Olga did when saving him in the second game. As if to say "You will go no farther."
** Also, in ''MetalGearSolid3'', The Boss made EVA and Ocelot swear never to kill nor aid in killing Naked Snake (the former was explicitly stated whereas Ocelot was more implied). When taking that into account, it's really no wonder why EVA and Ocelot ended up betraying (the former openly, and the latter covertly) the Patriots and attempting to destroy them after Zanzibar Land.
** The nationalities of the three most prominent founders of the Patriots ([[spoiler: Big Boss (American), Revolver Ocelot (Russian), and EVA (Chinese))]] corresponds to the three countries that founded the Philosophers. This is fitting, since [[spoiler: the Patriots used the Philosophers as their cover to make it look like they had been around longer than they really had]].

* FridgeLogic: This game represents Kojima's last attempt to duct tape every errant thread in the cloth of the pre-existing MetalGear continuity into a coherent whole, therefore an iota of contestable confusion was inevitable. That there aren't more is a testament to Kojima's writing skill.
** [[spoiler: Johnny Sasaki's status as a former-[[SuperSoldier Next Generation Special Forces]] member in MetalGearSolid means that he would need to have numerous injections for many reasons as part of the unit's experimental nature (Nanomachines, Gene Therapy, et al}. If he had always had [[FearOfNeedles Trypanophobia]] as he claims he would never have been part of that unit in the first place.]]
*** The simple explanation for this is that he ducked out of those shots, too. Liquid mentions that they needed Big Boss' body to fix problems in their genetic alterations; if Johnny were one of them, he'd probably be dead.
** This probably explains why the {{Novelization}} for Metal Gear Solid included a line where Otacon mentioned when meeting with Solid Snake that Johnny Sasaki was actually a former head techhie at the Shadow Moses Incident, but ended up brainwashed by the Sons of Big Boss.

* Why didn't Snake go down the road...access...way the when he goes to Shadow Moses? Was it really necessary to crawl through the base a second time when there was a straight road? I mean, he was okay escaping through that way again, why not use it to get in?
** The power was shut down, so he couldn't access that door anyways even if he intended to use it.

* Some consier [[spoiler: Naomi's death after stoping her nano-machines to not make any sense, since she died very quickly afterwards.]] But the [[AllThereInTheManual MGS4 database]] manages to fill in the blanks. [[spoiler: Her nanomachines only work around injuries, healing things only to the point that their whole, but not very healthy as we saw with Vamp. Naomi was one of the new targets for Foxdie, and contracted it as soon as she met Snake in the Middle East. But because of her nanomachines her heart kept working even after FOXDIE went at it. Once their stopped, there's no work around for the fact that most of her organs are cancer-damaged and she has another set of nanomachines eating away at her heart. It's even subtly implied in the game itself; when Big Boss says that FOXDIE killed Eva and Ocelot, the flashbacks show Eva, Ocelot and Naomi.]]

* FridgeHorror: At the end of the game [[spoiler: Snake has destroyed the Patriots, but that does not mean the Metal Gears have been destroyed and nothing will stop them from being rebuilt as long as the blueprints are still around. This was Snake's last hurrah, I don't want to live in a world without Solid Snake!]]

* FridgeLogic: This game represents Kojima's last attempt to duct tape every errant thread in the cloth of the pre-existing MetalGear continuity into a coherent whole, therefore an iota of [[YourMileageMayVary contestable]] confusion was inevitable. That there aren't more is a testament to Kojima's writing skill.

* Some consier [[spoiler: Naomi's death after stoping her nano-machines to not make any sense, since she died very quickly afterwards.]] But the [[AllThereInTheManual MGS4 database]] manages to fill in the blanks. [[spoiler: Her nanomachines only work around injuries, healing things only to te point that their whole, but not very healthy as we saw with Vamp. Naomi was one of the new targets for Foxdie, and contracted it as soon as she met Snake in the Middle East. But because of her nanomachines her heart kept working even after FOXDIE went at it. Once their stopped, there's no work around for the fact that most of her organs are cancer-damaged and she has another set of nanomachines eating away at her heart. It's even subtly implied in the game itself; when Big Boss says that FOXDIE killed Eva and Ocelot, the flashbacks show Eva, Ocelot and Naomi.]]

* FridgeLogic: This game represents Kojima's last attempt to duck tape every errant thread in the cloth of the pre-existing MetalGear continuity into a coherent whole, therefore an iota of [[YourMileageMayVary contestable]] confusion was inevitable. That there aren't more is a testament to Kojima's writing skill.

* FridgeHorror: At the end of the game [[spoiler: Snake has destroyed the Patriots, but that does not mean the Metal Gears have been destroyed and nothing will stop them from being rebuilt. This was Snake's last hurrah. I don't want to live in a world without Solid Snake!]]

* Some consier [[spoiler: Naomi's death after stoping her nano-machines to not make any sense, since she died very quickly afterwards.]] But the [[AllThereInTheManual MGS4 database]] manages to fill in the blanks. [[spoiler: Her nanomachines only work around injuries, healing things only to te point that their whole, but not very healthy as we saw with Vamp. Naomi was one of the new targets for Foxdie, and contracted it as soon as she met Snake in the Middle East. But because of her nanomachines her heart kept working even after FOXDIE went at it. Once their stopped, there's no work around for the fact that most of her organs are cancer-damaged and she has another set of nanomachines eating away at her heart. It's even subtly implied in the game itself; when Big Boss says that FOXDIE killed Eva and Ocelot, the flashbacks show Eva, Ocelot and Naomi.]]

** [[spoiler: How the hell was Big Boss planning on disposing of the bodies? Did he think the neighborhood garbage man was just going to come by and wheel them off?]]

* Snake's support team in Metal Gear Solid chide him for harming himself by smoking. When he said he didn't care about the risks of smoking compared to the risks of being a soldier, they responded that he hurt others with second hand smoke. So in MGS2, he has cigs that give off no second hand smoke. When Otacon complains that he's still littering with his cigarette butts, snake starts to carry around a portable ash tray in MGS4.

* [[spoiler: In ''MetalGearSolid3'', we learned that Major Zero is a huge fan of the James Bond movies. Here, we see how much he resembles a James Bond villain himself. He's an affable, witty British man with an evil-looking scar over his eye, and he takes over America with supercomputers. But unlike a classic Bond bad guy, his plan actually succeeds. His Bond-like nemesis (Big Boss) doesn't defeat him until over fifty years later...when he's an invalid old man, and he only needs to unplug his breathing machine. Maybe watching all those Bond movies make him GenreSavvy enough to succeed]].