History Fridge / MegaManZero

7th Apr '17 5:48:59 PM nombretomado
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** This may count as Fridge Heartwarming: At the end of the series, Zero is dead and is supposedly in Cyberspace. Fastforward to ProjectXZone, Iris is brought back thanks to the representatives of Franchise/DotHack. Now what does .hack have in common with the Mega Man series? Cyberspace. Zero also vows to find Iris once again. So in essence at the end of the series, Zero and Iris are finally [[TogetherInDeath reunited]].

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** This may count as Fridge Heartwarming: At the end of the series, Zero is dead and is supposedly in Cyberspace. Fastforward to ProjectXZone, VideoGame/ProjectXZone, Iris is brought back thanks to the representatives of Franchise/DotHack. Now what does .hack have in common with the Mega Man series? Cyberspace. Zero also vows to find Iris once again. So in essence at the end of the series, Zero and Iris are finally [[TogetherInDeath reunited]].
8th Mar '17 4:52:19 PM Getta
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* Zero's decision to kill Weil seems to be spitting on the laws of robotics that were so important to the series. However, his decision is in accordance to the Zeroth Law of Robotics which in essence is a threshold law designed to protect the human race, as obeying law 1 would cause humanity to be harmed through inaction. It's made especially ironic given that Zero was never built with the laws in mind, yet he unwittingly follows the most important law.

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* Zero's decision to kill Weil seems to be spitting on the laws of robotics that were so important to the series. However, his decision is in accordance to the Zeroth Law of Robotics which in essence is a threshold law designed to protect the human race, as obeying law 1 would cause humanity to be harmed through inaction. It's made especially ironic given that Zero was never built with the laws in mind, mind (Wily made him and all, and he's technically a "Robot Master"), yet he unwittingly follows the most important law.



*** He was also designed and programmed by Dr. Wily, a scientist who probably ''wouldn't'' have programmed any of his creations to be three-law compliant. For all his genius, Weil ''[[VillainBall didn't]]'' [[VillainBall bank on this]].
*** Irony: Despite not being programmed with the three laws, Zero CHOOSES to obey them of his own free will.
*** Not really. He tries to put down Dr. Weil.
*** Weil is also more machine than man at that point, particularly when he's fused to Ragnarok.
*** Weil is also a mass murderer despot. The sprirt of Law Zero was intended specifically to stop people like him. For another example, people like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Pol Pot and their atrocites would be an adequete threshold to trigger an appropiate Law Zero action.
*** I'm pretty sure the Reploids were never built to be ThreeLawsCompliant in the first place. That was just the Robots of the Classic games. Reploids are meant to have free will.
*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Weil like any other Reploid he's fought, demonstrating that equality. He even outright calls him "just another Maverick," a term which up until then was [[FantasticRacism used exclusively for Reploids]]. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.

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*** He was also designed and programmed by Dr. Wily, a scientist who probably ''wouldn't'' have programmed any of his creations to be three-law compliant. For all his genius, Weil ''[[VillainBall didn't]]'' [[VillainBall bank on this]].
*** Irony: Despite not being programmed with the three laws, Zero CHOOSES to obey them of his own free will.
*** Not really. He tries to put down Dr. Weil.
*** Weil is also more machine than man at that point, particularly when he's fused to Ragnarok.
*** Weil is also a mass murderer despot. The sprirt of Law Zero was intended specifically to stop people like him. For another example, people like him (think of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot Pot), and their atrocites would be an adequete threshold to trigger an appropiate Law Zero action.
*** I'm pretty sure the Reploids were never built to be ThreeLawsCompliant in
will override the first place. That was just law.
*** All of this come up because Weil himself brings up
the Robots of the Classic games. topic, that Reploids are meant like Zero should serve, and never harm, humanity. It basically blows on Weil's face due to have free will.
the Zeroth Law.
*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Weil like any other Reploid he's fought, demonstrating that equality. He even outright calls him "just another Maverick," a term which up until then the fourth game was [[FantasticRacism used exclusively for Reploids]]. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.



* The final battle with Zero and Omega Zero can mirror the fact that Zero is fighting his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide old self]]. Remember that in X2, Sigma made reference to Dr. Wily for being the last creation made. In X4, we know who the silhouette is in the beginning of Zero's nightmare. And X5, everyone obviously know, but Sigma does not refer him by name to X and Zero. Also, Zero was ''AxCrazy'' with Sigma's flashback. All the plot build-up from the entire X series to Zero 3 makes a true resolution of the story of Zero finally taking down what represented as his evil side. And since Zero lost his original body, Dr. Wily's final creation is technically destroyed, but the original Zero's mind still exists.

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** Bonus: he ''wasn't'' put into 30 years of morality testing, unlike X. He really doesn't know better about the right thing to do.
* The final battle with Zero and Omega Zero can mirror the fact that Zero is fighting his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide old self]]. Remember that in X2, Sigma made reference to Dr. Wily for Zero being the his last creation made. In X4, we know who the silhouette is in the beginning of Zero's nightmare. And X5, everyone obviously know, but Sigma does not refer him by name to X and Zero. Also, Zero was ''AxCrazy'' with Sigma's flashback. All the plot build-up from the entire X series to Zero 3 makes a true resolution of the story of Zero finally taking down what represented as his evil side. And since Zero lost his original body, Dr. Wily's final creation is technically destroyed, but the original Zero's mind still exists.



** Remember, Wily became evil because his pride was hurt. Meaning if he won, it would be more or less just to prove he's better than Dr Light. If he won, mankind would probably just have to deal with his ego for a couple decades until Dr Wily dies(he's already quite old.) Compare that with [[WellIntentionedExtremist Sig]][[KillAllHumans ma]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe Doc]][[FantasticRacism tor]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans Weil]], and [[RootingForTheEmpire you'll be rooting for Dr Wily in no time.]]

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** Remember, Wily became evil because his pride was hurt. Meaning if he won, it would be more or less just to prove he's better than Dr Light. If he won, mankind would probably just have to deal with his ego for a couple decades until Dr Wily dies(he's dies (he's already quite old.) Compare that with the nigh undying [[WellIntentionedExtremist Sig]][[KillAllHumans ma]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe Doc]][[FantasticRacism tor]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans Weil]], and [[RootingForTheEmpire you'll be rooting for Dr Wily in no time.]]
3rd Aug '15 12:46:34 AM Shivader
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*When Copy X finally meets Zero, he freely admits that he is a copy of the original. But how exactly did he come to this conclusion? Everyone believed him to be the true X, except for Ciel. Imagine how his life would have been ever since he was born; he's activated as a newborn reploid with the experience of a child, but everyone around him believes that he's their beloved X come back to them. Already he's had an impossibly heavy mantle of expectations hefted onto his shoulders before he even really knows what's going on. So he tries to fit into these large shoes and be the 'X' they want him to be after all, they say he's X, so he must be X, right? But ... he doesn't have any of the memories or experiences of the original X. Eventually, he comes to the only real conclusion; that he's only a copy of the original. His entire life is based on a gigantic lie. If everyone knew the truth, they would abandon him, because he's not the X that everyone loved and respected. He, understandably, suffers a psychotic break. It's at this point that he begins his campaign of iron-fisted rule, because if he can't be the beloved X, then he has no choice but to be better than him in order to earn that love by his own merits. Copy X might be a cruel tyrant, but his upbringing really didn't leave any room for anything but an unstable, emotionally skewed individual.
23rd Jun '15 9:47:38 PM GeminiSparkSP
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* In the manga adaptation of the first game, Copy-X (here called the "Perfect Reploid") is a fusion of the Four Guardians created by [[CanonForeigner Ciel's younger sister, Cial]], rather than a copy of X himself. It may sound crazy, but the Four Guardians were made from four pars of X's [=DNA=] in the series

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* In the manga adaptation of the first game, Copy-X (here called the "Perfect Reploid") is a fusion of the Four Guardians created by [[CanonForeigner Ciel's younger sister, Cial]], rather than a copy of X himself. It may sound crazy, but the Four Guardians were made from four pars of X's [=DNA=] in the series
series.
* Of course the Proto Form[=/=]Junk Armor would reduce your defense. WordOfGod says it's the Black Zero armor from the X games. Where does Black Zero appear the first time? At the end of X2, when it was easily destroyed with a single slash.
19th May '15 11:13:02 AM MrUnderhill
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*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Weil like any other Reploid he's fought (even outright calling him "just another Maverick," a term which up until then was used exclusively for Reploids), demonstrating that equality. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.

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*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Weil like any other Reploid he's fought (even fought, demonstrating that equality. He even outright calling calls him "just another Maverick," a term which up until then was [[FantasticRacism used exclusively for Reploids), demonstrating that equality.Reploids]]. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.
19th May '15 11:11:27 AM MrUnderhill
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*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Wiel like any other Reploid he's fought, demonstrating that equality. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.

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*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Wiel Weil like any other Reploid he's fought, fought (even outright calling him "just another Maverick," a term which up until then was used exclusively for Reploids), demonstrating that equality. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.
4th May '15 1:51:56 PM MechWarrior
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* Think of the attitudes humanity has towards genuinely non-violent robots: in MM9 we see [[spoiler:the Robot Masters are still online when Wily finds them.]] In MMX6, Gate's Reploids are killed off due to their potential risks instead of merely reassigned; in the context of this series, robots are basically sentient, so humans are willing to leave living people ''to basically starve to death, or outright kill them, out of convenience.'' Yet, people like Dr. Wily and Weil get to live, with no "kill on sight" orders established before being captured. How ''horrifically'' skewed are humanity's priorities towards robots and humans to even allow this to happen? The worst part about this? This means that Dr Weil's BreakingSpeech ''[[StrawmanHasAPoint has ground.]]'' [[HumansAreBastards Only humans understand the joy of power, indeed.]]

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* Think of the attitudes humanity has towards genuinely non-violent robots: in MM9 [=MM9=] we see [[spoiler:the Robot Masters are still online when Wily finds them.]] In MMX6, [=MMX6=], Gate's Reploids are killed off due to their potential risks instead of merely reassigned; in the context of this series, robots are basically sentient, so humans are willing to leave living people ''to basically starve to death, or outright kill them, out of convenience.'' Yet, people like Dr. Wily and Weil get to live, with no "kill on sight" orders established before being captured. How ''horrifically'' skewed are humanity's priorities towards robots and humans to even allow this to happen? The worst part about this? This means that Dr Weil's BreakingSpeech ''[[StrawmanHasAPoint has ground.]]'' [[HumansAreBastards Only humans understand the joy of power, indeed.]]
15th Mar '15 1:54:57 PM MMTrigger
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**** Irony: Despite not being programmed with the three laws, Zero CHOOSES to obey them of his own free will.
***** Not really. He tries to put down Dr. Weil.
***** Weil is also more machine than man at that point, particularly when he's fused to Ragnarok.
***** Weil is also a mass murderer despot. The sprirt of Law Zero was intended specifically to stop people like him. For another example, people like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Pol Pot and their atrocites would be an adequete threshold to trigger an appropiate Law Zero action.
***** I'm pretty sure the Reploids were never built to be ThreeLawsCompliant in the first place. That was just the Robots of the Classic games. Reploids are meant to have free will.

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**** *** Irony: Despite not being programmed with the three laws, Zero CHOOSES to obey them of his own free will.
***** *** Not really. He tries to put down Dr. Weil.
***** *** Weil is also more machine than man at that point, particularly when he's fused to Ragnarok.
***** *** Weil is also a mass murderer despot. The sprirt of Law Zero was intended specifically to stop people like him. For another example, people like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Pol Pot and their atrocites would be an adequete threshold to trigger an appropiate Law Zero action.
***** *** I'm pretty sure the Reploids were never built to be ThreeLawsCompliant in the first place. That was just the Robots of the Classic games. Reploids are meant to have free will.
*** Also, Dr. Light's dream was for humans and robots to live and treat each other as equals. Zero treated Wiel like any other Reploid he's fought, demonstrating that equality. This also explains why it fell to Zero to realize Light's dream: for all his talk, Light subconsciously ''did'' still put human life higher than robots, hence Rock being ThreeLawsCompliant and X's 30 years of testing. If he had accepted that there are times to kill, Dr. Wily would've been picked off before Zero could be built, preventing so much pain and suffering.
7th Feb '15 7:03:01 AM BagonsBeBagons
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Now remember when he said "I am The Devil"? Now consider these: Being one of the good guys at the start? Check. Being envious to one of the good guys that solved them all? Check. Cursing the tool (i.e the Mother Elf) that was previously used for peace, and created an AntiChrist, to wreck chaos, just to spite said good guy? Check. Being banished to "hell" after all he had done? Check. [[MemeticMutation Falls from the "heaven"]] [[StreetFighter like]] [[LargeHam lightning]]? Double check. Said good guy sacrificed himself to stop the whole mess? Check. Now sum them up, and then you'll think of him as ''[[{{Satan}} Lucifer, aka the Devil itself]].''

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Now remember when he said "I am The Devil"? Now consider these: Being one of the good guys at the start? Check. Being envious to one of the good guys that solved them all? Check. Cursing the tool (i.e the Mother Elf) that was previously used for peace, and created an AntiChrist, to wreck chaos, just to spite said good guy? Check. Being banished to "hell" after all he had done? Check. [[MemeticMutation Falls from the "heaven"]] [[StreetFighter [[Franchise/StreetFighter like]] [[LargeHam lightning]]? Double check. Said good guy sacrificed himself to stop the whole mess? Check. Now sum them up, and then you'll think of him as ''[[{{Satan}} Lucifer, aka the Devil itself]].''
* Because of the destruction of Neo Arcadia, where else would the Resistance take the survivors but to Area Zero? (The presence of Colbor, the leader of the rescue team, in the Caravan's campsite during the ending supports this logic.) If so, then Weil's ColonyDrop wouldn't just destroy the environment and those dissidents in the Caravan, but probably also result in an instant KillEmAll. So much for a slow and painful death as Weil wanted the Neo Arcadians to go through.
15th Jun '14 5:54:28 PM DAN004
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****** While the Reploids are meant to have free will, they are also supposed to be Three Laws compliant. The opening text from the original Mega Man X (presented as a note from Dr. Light himself) mentions that he is sealing away X for 30 years to put him in a kind of "test mode" to make sure he complies with the Three Laws of Robotics (or at the very least, the first one). Since all Reploids are based off of his design, it seems reasonable that they are meant to be Three Laws compliant.

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****** While the Reploids are meant to have free will, they are also supposed to be Three Laws compliant. The opening text from the original Mega Man X (presented as a note from Dr. Light himself) mentions that he is sealing away X for 30 years to put him in a kind of "test mode" to make sure he complies with the Three Laws of Robotics (or at the very least, the first one). Since all Reploids are based off of his design, it seems reasonable that they are meant to be Three Laws compliant.
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