History Fridge / MastersOfTheUniverse

9th Sep '17 9:25:55 AM whateveryousay21
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* Am I the only one who is a tad concerned about the heavy amount of cyborgs in the side of good in this series? Mekaneck (Who has a robotic ''neck''), Ram Man (who has a metal plate in his skull), Man-E-Faces (A robotic face as one of the forms he takes as well as a spinning device that changes his heads), Fisto (who has a robotic arm) and a few others. Could this imply that there was a heavy amount of bodily damage that the heroes had to endure?

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* Am I the only one who is a tad concerned about the heavy amount of cyborgs in the side of good in this series? Mekaneck (Who has a robotic ''neck''), Ram Man (who has a metal plate in his skull), Man-E-Faces (A robotic face as one of the forms he takes as well as a spinning device that changes his heads), Fisto (who has a robotic arm) and a few others. Could this imply that there was a heavy amount of bodily damage that the heroes had to endure?endure?
** This is outright stated in certain parts of the fiction, and shown in Fisto's case in 200X where he shattered his hand freeing the heroes from a rock slide. But one wonders though why the surgeons opt for enhanced features over either surgery or a simpler replacement part.
9th Sep '17 9:22:45 AM whateveryousay21
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* Why was Adam allowed to become a lazy, spoiled idiot despite being the sole heir to the Eternian throne and neither of his parents approving of that attitude? Because his parents feel massively guilty over losing Adora and overcompensated pampering Adam and letting things slide when he ignored his responsibilities.

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* Why was Adam allowed to become a lazy, spoiled idiot despite being the sole heir to the Eternian throne and neither of his parents approving of that attitude? Because his parents feel massively guilty over losing Adora and overcompensated pampering Adam and letting things slide when he ignored his responsibilities. [[spoiler:Although even the cartoon dropped strong hints that Marlena knew damn well that Adam was He-Man]]
25th Jun '17 10:52:03 AM ShadowDJ
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* The lack of characters like Orko, Battle Cat and others in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]] is explained when one of the characters says that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces. Also, before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure,"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.

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* The lack of characters like Orko, Battle Cat and others in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]] is explained when one of the characters says that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces. Also, before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure,"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.found.

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* Am I the only one who is a tad concerned about the heavy amount of cyborgs in the side of good in this series? Mekaneck (Who has a robotic ''neck''), Ram Man (who has a metal plate in his skull), Man-E-Faces (A robotic face as one of the forms he takes as well as a spinning device that changes his heads), Fisto (who has a robotic arm) and a few others. Could this imply that there was a heavy amount of bodily damage that the heroes had to endure?
17th Jan '16 10:56:15 AM tropower
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* Ever get annoyed that no one can see through He-Man/Prince Adam's PaperThinDisguise? Just remember that Eternia is an alien world that wouldn't necessarily have all the same storytelling tropes that Earth does, so maybe he's the first person in their world to try ClarkKenting. The real brilliance comes in when you consider the fact that his mother, who was originally an American astronaut, recognizes him immediately: she grew up in a world where everyone knew the fictional story of Superman, so the change doesn't fool her at all; she just keeps quiet because she's proud of the good her son is doing.

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* Ever LimitedAnimation aside, ever get annoyed that no one can see through He-Man/Prince Adam's PaperThinDisguise? Just remember that Eternia is an alien world that wouldn't necessarily have all the same storytelling tropes that Earth does, so maybe he's the first person in their world to try ClarkKenting. The real brilliance comes in when you consider the fact that his mother, who was originally an American astronaut, recognizes him immediately: immediately (or at least, she's implied to): she grew up in a world where everyone knew the fictional story of Superman, so in this case the change doesn't likely wouldn't fool her at all; she just keeps quiet because she's proud of the good her son is doing.
3rd Aug '15 2:17:15 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* The lack of characters like Orko, Battle Cat and others in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]] is explained when one of the characters says that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces. Also, before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure,"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.

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* Whenever Adam says ByThePowerOfGrayskull, his strength and fighting ability increase, and he also gains a physical resemblance to King Grayskull. This allows him to accomplish amazing feats... but then, there's Cringer. Several times, Cringer shows to be afraid of the transformation, as if he feared what comes after. But why should a sentient creature be afraid of turning into a badass version of itself? Well, what if Adam doesn't merely get the ''power'' of King Grayskull, but is actually a WillingChanneler, who allows himself to be possessed by the ''soul'' of King Grayskull, gaining PowersViaPossession? This would mean that Adam, as He-Man, surrenders his free will and the control of his body to someone else. He feels his body moving by itself, and while King Grayskull fights effectively through his body, Adam has never any idea of what he is going to do next. He effectively becomes a meat puppet for the spirit of Grayskull, and since he remembers everything he does as He-Man, he is conscious and lucid through the whole ordeal. '''This''' is why Cringer is terrified of the transformation: because, whenever he turns into Battle Cat, he feels his body moving by itself too, and do things he would never even consider to do, which makes him feel pure ''terror'' the entire time he is transformed.

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* The lack of characters like Orko, Battle Cat and others in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]] is explained when one of the characters says that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces. Also, before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure,"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.

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* Whenever Adam says ByThePowerOfGrayskull, his strength and fighting ability increase, and he also gains a physical resemblance to King Grayskull. This allows him to accomplish amazing feats... but then, there's Cringer. Several times, Cringer shows to be afraid of the transformation, as if he feared what comes after. But why should a sentient creature be afraid of turning into a badass version of itself? Well, what if Adam doesn't merely get the ''power'' of King Grayskull, but is actually a WillingChanneler, who allows himself to be possessed by the ''soul'' of King Grayskull, gaining PowersViaPossession? This would mean that Adam, as He-Man, surrenders his free will and the control of his body to someone else. He feels his body moving by itself, and while King Grayskull fights effectively through his body, Adam has never any idea of what he is going to do next. He effectively becomes a meat puppet for the spirit of Grayskull, and since he remembers everything he does as He-Man, he is conscious and lucid through the whole ordeal. '''This''' is why Cringer is terrified of the transformation: because, whenever he turns into Battle Cat, he feels his body moving by itself too, and do things he would never even consider to do, which makes him feel pure ''terror'' the entire time he is transformed.
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3rd Aug '15 2:16:32 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* The reason characters like Orko, Battle Cat and the lot weren't in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]]? Listen closely near the begining, you'll hear one of the characters say that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces, very clever writting!
** Also before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure!"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.

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* The reason lack of characters like Orko, Battle Cat and the lot weren't others in [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]]? Listen closely near the begining, you'll hear film]] is explained when one of the characters say says that many of the Masters had been captured by Skeletor's forces, very clever writting!
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forces. Also, before Skeletor kills Saurod, he says, [[YouHaveFailedMe "You are all aware of the penalty is for failure!"]] failure,"]] thus explaining why his usual minions such as Trap Jaw are also nowhere to be found.
3rd Aug '15 2:15:15 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* Whenever Adam says ByThePowerOfGrayskull, his strength and fighting ability increase, and he also gains a physical resemblance to King Grayskull. This allows him to accomplish amazing feats... but then, there's Cringer. Several times, Cringer shows to be afraid of the transformation, as if he feared what comes after. But why should a sentient creature be afraid of turning into a badass version of itself? Well, what if Adam doesn't merely get the ''power'' of King Grayskull, but is actually a WillingChanneler, who allows himself to be possessed by the ''soul'' of King Grayskull, gaining PowersViaPossession? This would mean that Adam, as He-Man, surrenders his free will and the control of his body to someone else. He feels his body moving by itself, and while King Grayskull fights effectively through his body, Adam has never any idea of what he is going to do next. He effectively becomes a meat puppet for the spirit of Grayskull, and since he remembers everything he does as He-Man, he is conscious and lucid through the whole ordeal. '''This''' is why Cringer is terrified of the transformation: because, whenever he turns into Battle Cat, he feels his body moving by itself too, and do things he would never even consider to do, which makes him feel pure ''terror'' the entire time he is transformed.
* At the end of [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]], the plucky teenage couple arrange to be returned to Earth a few years earlier, so the girl can save her parents from dying in a plane crash. Great! Happy ending! Except... they're trapped in their own past. They'll grow up and have to go through the whole nightmare again. In fact, worst case scenario, they've just trapped themselves in a time loop and will spend the rest of infinity constantly reliving those few years.
** Not necessarily, Eternian magic can alter reality in which the heroes and the villains never came to Earth. And may have done the same with Detective Lubic. Plus, ''they'' didn't arrange to do it, it was Gwildor, who as inventor of the device would know how to do it correctly. Julie's very first action upon realizing what Gwildor did is to prevent her parents from getting on the plane. Their doesn't seem to be difficulty with changing the past.

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* Whenever Adam says ByThePowerOfGrayskull, his strength and fighting ability increase, and he also gains a physical resemblance to King Grayskull. This allows him to accomplish amazing feats... but then, there's Cringer. Several times, Cringer shows to be afraid of the transformation, as if he feared what comes after. But why should a sentient creature be afraid of turning into a badass version of itself? Well, what if Adam doesn't merely get the ''power'' of King Grayskull, but is actually a WillingChanneler, who allows himself to be possessed by the ''soul'' of King Grayskull, gaining PowersViaPossession? This would mean that Adam, as He-Man, surrenders his free will and the control of his body to someone else. He feels his body moving by itself, and while King Grayskull fights effectively through his body, Adam has never any idea of what he is going to do next. He effectively becomes a meat puppet for the spirit of Grayskull, and since he remembers everything he does as He-Man, he is conscious and lucid through the whole ordeal. '''This''' is why Cringer is terrified of the transformation: because, whenever he turns into Battle Cat, he feels his body moving by itself too, and do things he would never even consider to do, which makes him feel pure ''terror'' the entire time he is transformed.
* At the end of [[Film/MastersOfTheUniverse the film]], the plucky teenage couple arrange to be returned to Earth a few years earlier, so the girl can save her parents from dying in a plane crash. Great! Happy ending! Except... they're trapped in their own past. They'll grow up and have to go through the whole nightmare again. In fact, worst case scenario, they've just trapped themselves in a time loop and will spend the rest of infinity constantly reliving those few years.
** Not necessarily, Eternian magic can alter reality in which the heroes and the villains never came to Earth. And may have done the same with Detective Lubic. Plus, ''they'' didn't arrange to do it, it was Gwildor, who as inventor of the device would know how to do it correctly. Julie's very first action upon realizing what Gwildor did is to prevent her parents from getting on the plane. Their doesn't seem to be difficulty with changing the past.
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3rd Aug '15 2:14:43 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse2002'' was a great reboot that made this old-time fan happy and I particularly liked the character of Prince Adam, who was much more developed and behaved like a spoiled teenager who had to become his world's version of Franchise/{{Superman}}. He-Man, though... one could chalk up his [[TheCape Cape-like]] demeanor to a throwback to how he acted in the old series, [[IncrediblyLamePun puns]] and all, but it eventually hit me that it makes perfect sense for Adam to act that way since he's supposed to be a legendary hero: he's [[ChewingTheScenery ''over-acting'']] in universe! Why else would he dub the good guys "Masters of the Universe?" It sounds exactly like something a teenager would come up with for a garage band or something. One could even imagine that Adam read a lot of Eternian comics or the equivalent of them. They really did a good job on that series. - koolkame



* Why was Adam allowed to become a lazy, spoiled idiot despite being the sole heir to the Eternian throne and neither of his parents approving of that attitude? Because his parents feel massively guilty over losing Adora and overcompensated pampering Adam and letting things slide when he ignored his responsabilities.

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* Why was Adam allowed to become a lazy, spoiled idiot despite being the sole heir to the Eternian throne and neither of his parents approving of that attitude? Because his parents feel massively guilty over losing Adora and overcompensated pampering Adam and letting things slide when he ignored his responsabilities.responsibilities.



** Though the lack of usual minions can also be justified by having them stand guard over all the captured Masters.

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** Though the lack of usual minions can also be justified by having them stand guard over all the captured Masters.



** Not necessarily, Eternian magic can alter reality in which the heroes and the villains never came to Earth. And may have done the same with Detective Lubic. Plus, ''they'' didn't arrange to do it, it was Gwildor, who as inventor of the device would know how to do it correctly. Julie's very first action upon realizing what Gwildor did is to prevent her parents from getting on the plane. Their doesn't seem to be difficulty with changing the past.
** I'm pretty sure (considering the fact that he wished to stay) Lubic was exempted from anything like that.
*** I mean that presumably with Eternian magic, no one would notice he's gone.

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* While not exactly horrible, correcting their past mistakes does toss the characters (and us) a TimeyWimeyBall to unravel. What exactly does happen to Lubic now that the events that led up to his involvement in this whole battle have been altered and erased? Excising an ''entire life'' from the timeline without drastically altering the entire universe strikes me as extremely implausible. I figure there's a bit of reality-splitting here, and now in addition to the Lubic currently enjoying his retirement on Eternia, Earth will have an alternate Lubic who never gets to have that cushy retirement to Eternia with a lovely Eternian lady, but also never gets caught up in the battles between He-Man and Skeletor's forces which I presume he'd rather have avoided, so his life's a wash.
* Randor, Man-At-Arms, Teela and Adam never heard about Christmas before the ChristmasSpecial. One might wonder why Marlena never mentioned it before.

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** Not necessarily, Eternian magic can alter reality in which the heroes and the villains never came to Earth. And may have done the same with Detective Lubic. Plus, ''they'' didn't arrange to do it, it was Gwildor, who as inventor of the device would know how to do it correctly. Julie's very first action upon realizing what Gwildor did is to prevent her parents from getting on the plane. Their doesn't seem to be difficulty with changing the past.
** I'm pretty sure (considering the fact that he wished to stay) Lubic was exempted from anything like that.
*** I mean that presumably with Eternian magic, no one would notice he's gone.

[[AC:Fridge Logic]]
* While not exactly horrible, correcting their past mistakes does toss the characters (and us) a TimeyWimeyBall to unravel. What exactly does happen to Lubic now that the events that led up to his involvement in this whole battle have been altered and erased? Excising an ''entire life'' from the timeline without drastically altering the entire universe strikes me as extremely implausible. I figure there's a bit of reality-splitting here, and now in addition to the Lubic currently enjoying his retirement on Eternia, Earth will have an alternate Lubic who never gets to have that cushy retirement to Eternia with a lovely Eternian lady, but also never gets caught up in the battles between He-Man and Skeletor's forces which I presume he'd rather have avoided, so his life's a wash.
* Randor, Man-At-Arms, Teela and Adam never heard about Christmas before the ChristmasSpecial. One might wonder why Marlena never mentioned it before.
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18th Jul '14 4:08:25 PM fruitstripegum
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** I'm pretty sure (considering the fact that he wished to stay) Lubic was excepted from anything like that.

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** I'm pretty sure (considering the fact that he wished to stay) Lubic was excepted exempted from anything like that.
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