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* In the "Spoonful of Sugar" song, the note goes UP when Mary sings "down". This contrast helps highlight Mary's wacky personality, as pointed out in ''Saving Mr. Banks''.

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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in

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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'') if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.



''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'') if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.

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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'') if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.

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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in in
*** She was getting them all under her umbrella, too keep them out over the rain.
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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in Disney/WreckItRalph) if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.

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** It was definitely something unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in Disney/WreckItRalph) ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'') if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.
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* At the start, Mr. Banks burns Jane and Michael's version of the job posting in the fireplace. Intentional or not, this could be a GeniusBonus: in some places, that's exactly what they do to children's letters to Santa, so that the smoke carries them to the addressee - and indeed Mary is shown to receive the letter right after.
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** I always assumed it was just about dusk/dawn, but I admit I hadn't seen the movie for years, only hearing the songs.

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** I One always assumed it was just about dusk/dawn, but I admit I hadn't admits having not seen the movie for years, only hearing the songs.
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** So is Mr Banks.
** Mrs. Banks herself, due to her suffragette leanings, is precisely the sort of woman who might have volunteered to serve as a [=WAAC=], the better to prove females can serve their country too. Unless she'd learned nursing or cookery, that could have entailed working in a munitions factory and exposure to toxic levels of [=TNT=] and nitric acid, not to mention accidental explosions.

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** *** So is Mr Banks.
** *** Mrs. Banks herself, due to her suffragette leanings, is precisely the sort of woman who might have volunteered to serve as a [=WAAC=], the better to prove females can serve their country too. too. And, very probably, to insist that Jane serve along with her. Unless she'd learned either of them knew nursing or cookery, that could have most likely would've entailed working in a munitions factory and potential exposure to toxic levels of [=TNT=] and nitric acid, not to mention accidental explosions.

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* For all that Mr. Banks (pre-epiphany) is depicted as an overly-exacting, stuff-shirt workaholic who's letting his kids' lives slip by him, he's actually fairly liberal-minded about women for an Edwardian-era City gent at a stodgy financial institution. He married a fervent suffragette who's deeply involved in protest actions, and he was just as willing to bring his ''daughter'' to the bank to learn about his work as his son.


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** Never mind WWI; practically everyone in the movie is the right age to have had to live through the 1918-1920 influenza pandemic. No need to enlist for ''that'' to kill you.
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** Mrs. Banks herself, due to her suffragette leanings, is precisely the sort of woman who might have volunteered to serve as a [=WAAC=], the better to prove females can serve their country too. Unless she'd learned nursing or cookery, that could have entailed working in a munitions factory and exposure to toxic levels of [=TNT=] and nitric acid, not to mention accidental explosions.
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* All of Mr. Banks's songs have the same tune except Let's Go Fly a Kite. There might be a reason for this: he's not very interested in things which don't have some objective importance beyond simple entertainment up until he realizes the value of fun. So when he feels the need to sing, he just uses the same tune because he probably doesn't value creativity enough to make separate tunes. However, by the time he's singing Let's Go Fly a Kite, he knows the value of entertainment and thinks that some variety in his tunes would be more entertaining.
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* "Oh, father, every one of those sweeps shook your hand! You're going to be the luckiest person in the whole world!" Could be just an innocent childhood thing to say, with particularly bad timing to boot....but getting your perspective straightened out and your job back after being fired ''is'' pretty lucky.




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* Combine Michael's disgust at nannies who smell like "barley water" and George's reference to Katie Nanna having a "liver complaint" and you can see why she was so bad at keeping the children from running off: Jane and Michael were being taken care of by a drunk.

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* When The Head Maid stumbles in on the Chimney Sweeps barging into the Banks' house, she screams "They're at it again!" This isn't the first time that ''dirty, grimy chimney sweeps have jumped into the house and dirtied everything with their dance parties?!''

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* No matter how greedy, you'd think a veteran financier like Dawes would have the common sense to ''let go'' of a measly tuppence immediately, rather than let some kid's hissy-fit provoke his bank's near-collapse.
** It shows how out of touch the bankers are, going on and on about imperialistic accomplishments ("Railways through Africa, dams across the Nile, fleets of ocean greyhounds, majestic self-amortizing canals, plantations of ripening tea."), things that mean absolutely nothing to an eight-year-old boy. If George or the other bankers tried to explain to Michael that by investing, he'd get more money for things ''he'd'' like to do, such as feeding the birds, maybe Michael would've been more open about it.
** Well, he is a pretty doddery old man. Maybe that's why he's not quick enough on the uptake to realise why it would be better not to cling onto that tuppence. Is it any more plausible that a riot in a bank could happen as easily as this? We're also talking about a film with flying nannies, people jumping into pavement drawings and a retired Admiral whose neighbours tolerate him firing a cannon off his rooftop several times a day.

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* When The Head Maid the head maid stumbles in on the Chimney Sweeps barging into the Banks' house, she screams "They're at it again!" This isn't the first time that ''dirty, grimy chimney sweeps have jumped into the house and dirtied everything with their dance parties?!''

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* No matter how greedy, you'd think a veteran financier like Dawes would have the common sense to ''let go'' of a measly tuppence immediately, rather than let some kid's hissy-fit provoke his bank's near-collapse.
** It shows how out of touch the bankers are, going on and on about imperialistic accomplishments ("Railways through Africa, dams across the Nile, fleets of ocean greyhounds, majestic self-amortizing canals, plantations of ripening tea."), things that mean absolutely nothing to an eight-year-old boy. If George or the other bankers tried to explain to Michael that by investing, he'd get more money for things ''he'd'' like to do, such as feeding the birds, maybe Michael would've been more open about it.
** Well, he is a pretty doddery old man. Maybe that's why he's not quick enough on the uptake to realise why it would be better not to cling onto that tuppence. Is it any more plausible that a riot in a bank could happen as easily as this? We're also talking about a film with flying nannies, people jumping into pavement drawings and a retired Admiral whose neighbours tolerate him firing a cannon off his rooftop several times a day.
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** It shows how out of touch the bankers are, going on and on about imperialistic accomplishments ("Railways through Africa, dams across the Nile, fleets of ocean greyhounds, majestic self-advertising canals, plantations of ripening tea."), things that mean absolutely nothing to an eight-year-old boy. If George or the other bankers tried to explain to Michael that by investing, he'd get more money for things ''he'd'' like to do, such as feeding the birds, maybe Michael would've been more open about it.

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** It shows how out of touch the bankers are, going on and on about imperialistic accomplishments ("Railways through Africa, dams across the Nile, fleets of ocean greyhounds, majestic self-advertising self-amortizing canals, plantations of ripening tea."), things that mean absolutely nothing to an eight-year-old boy. If George or the other bankers tried to explain to Michael that by investing, he'd get more money for things ''he'd'' like to do, such as feeding the birds, maybe Michael would've been more open about it.
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** I always assumed it was just about dusk/dawn, but I admit I hadn't seen the movie for years, only hearing the songs.
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* When I was a child, chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence is supposed to take place, or so I thought. But now that I know about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]]

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* When I was a child, chapter Chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed seem just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. BigLippedAlligatorMoment, at first. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence nonsense is supposed to take place, or so I thought. after all. But now that I know when you learn about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]]

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* When I was a child, chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence is supposed to take place, or so I thought. But now that I know about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]] This, of course, raises a question whether it's good to sneak religious/occult propaganda into children books.
** Take that one up with Creator/CSLewis.

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* When I was a child, chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence is supposed to take place, or so I thought. But now that I know about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]] This, of course, raises a question whether it's good to sneak religious/occult propaganda into children books.
** Take that one up with Creator/CSLewis.
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* Why does everyone in Bert's chalk drawing world love Mary so much? Because he does too.

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* Why did all the people and talking animals in the chalk-drawing world admire Mary Poppins so much? Because they were created by Bert, and therefore expressions of his own mind!
* When I was a child, chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence is supposed to take place, or so I thought. But now that I know about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]] This, of course, raises a question whether it's good to sneak religious/occult propaganda into children books.
** Take that one up with Creator/CSLewis.
* Maybe good luck ''did'' rub off when all those chimney sweeps shook hands with George Banks-It would help explain why the bank re-hired him so quickly near the end of the movie.
* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his slippers, sherry, and pipe ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all. And the perspective is not at all unlike that held by people living in dangerous places, such as soldiers in a warzone who might treat enemy raids as just part of the nine to five, as it were. "Normal" is a matter of perspective.
** The Admiral fires at 8 AM, but earlier than 6 PM.
** Well, there's this, too: He's never home to deal with the falling objects, at least not in the evening. Notice how the song goes: "At 6:01, I march through my door!"




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* When The Head Maid stumbles in on the Chimney Sweeps barging into the Banks' house, she screams "They're at it again!" This isn't the first time that ''dirty, grimy chimney sweeps have jumped into the house and dirtied everything with their dance parties?!''




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* Why did all the people and talking animals in the chalk-drawing world admire Mary Poppins so much? Because they were created by Bert, and therefore expressions of his own mind!
* When I was a child, chapter 10 and the whole big deal with Mary's birthday, talking zoo animals and "We are all one" thingy seemed just a whimsical BigLippedAlligatorMoment to me. It was a fairy tale, after all; nonsence is supposed to take place, or so I thought. But now that I know about [[http://www.cesnur.org/testi/marypoppins.htm#Anchor-53283 Travers' interest]] [[http://www.gurdjieff.org/travers.htm in mythology and theosophy]], [[AuthorTract the whole thing]] [[WriterOnBoard starts to make sense.]] This, of course, raises a question whether it's good to sneak religious/occult propaganda into children books.
** Take that one up with Creator/CSLewis.
* Maybe good luck ''did'' rub off when all those chimney sweeps shook hands with George Banks-It would help explain why the bank re-hired him so quickly near the end of the movie.
* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his slippers, sherry, and pipe ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all. And the perspective is not at all unlike that held by people living in dangerous places, such as soldiers in a warzone who might treat enemy raids as just part of the nine to five, as it were. "Normal" is a matter of perspective.
** The Admiral fires at 8 AM, but earlier than 6 PM.
** Well, there's this, too: He's never home to deal with the falling objects, at least not in the evening. Notice how the song goes: "At 6:01, I march through my door!"
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* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his tea ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all. And the perspective is not at all unlike that held by people living in dangerous places, such as soldiers in a warzone who might treat enemy raids as just part of the nine to five, as it were. "Normal" is a matter of perspective.

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* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his tea slippers, sherry, and pipe ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all. And the perspective is not at all unlike that held by people living in dangerous places, such as soldiers in a warzone who might treat enemy raids as just part of the nine to five, as it were. "Normal" is a matter of perspective.perspective.
** The Admiral fires at 8 AM, but earlier than 6 PM.

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* Why does Mary Poppins only say "practically perfect in every way"? Because true perfection is impossible and Mary's being humble, acknowledging that everyone has room for improvement.
* Why does Ellen have no free time to watch the children on Mary Poppins's day off? Because she's the one who has to mind them while they're between governesses, so she's likely behind on all her work and only just getting to catch up since Mary arrived.

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* Watching the movie as an adult, it was shocking listening to Chim-Chim-Cheriee and realizing that it was a song glorifying pollution. No, seriously, listen to them sing about the glory of London covered in smoke "hardly no day and hardly no night". It ties back to Song of the South's Zippa-De-Doo-Da in finding the good in everything, but it's still shocking at the horrific pollution of the [[LighterAndSofter Disneyfied Edwardian London]], orders of magnitude worse than anything found in Europe or America today.
** The "Let's Go Fly A Kite" song makes it even HarsherInHindsight: ''up through the atmosphere / up where the air is clear'' along with the metaphorical desire to be lighter than air and flying around like the kite.



* Watching the movie as an adult, it was shocking listening to Chim-Chim-Cheriee and realizing that it was a song glorifying pollution. No, seriously, listen to them sing about the glory of London covered in smoke "hardly no day and hardly no night". It ties back to Song of the South's Zippa-De-Doo-Da in finding the good in everything, but it's still shocking at the horrific pollution of the [[LighterAndSofter Disneyfied Edwardian London]], orders of magnitude worse than anything found in Europe or America today.
** The "Let's Go Fly A Kite" song makes it even HarsherInHindsight: ''up through the atmosphere / up where the air is clear'' along with the metaphorical desire to be lighter than air and flying around like the kite.

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* Watching the movie as an adult, it was shocking listening to Chim-Chim-Cheriee and realizing that it was a song glorifying pollution. No, seriously, listen to them sing about the glory of London covered in smoke "hardly no day and hardly no night". It ties back to Song of the South's Zippa-De-Doo-Da in finding the good in everything, but it's still shocking at the horrific pollution of the [[LighterAndSofter Disneyfied Edwardian London]], orders of magnitude worse than anything found in Europe or America today.
** The "Let's Go Fly A Kite" song makes it even HarsherInHindsight: ''up through the atmosphere / up where the air is clear'' along with the metaphorical desire to be lighter than air and flying around like the kite.

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** On that note, it's a good thing Mrs. Banks has not herself been arrested and thrown in jail for her suffragette activities - they'd be down one post full of valuables.
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** Well, there's this, too: He's never home to deal with the falling objects, at least not in the evening. Notice how the song goes: "At 6:01, I march through my door!"
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** It was definitely something unpleasant. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in Disney/WreckItRalph) if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.

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** It was definitely something unpleasant.unpleasant for those not "native" to the drawing. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in Disney/WreckItRalph) if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.
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** The "Let's Go Fly A Kite" song makes it even HarsherInHindsight: ''up through the atmosphere / up where the air is clear'' along with the metaphorical desire to be lighter than air and flying around like the kite.

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*** The presumption that it is otherwise suggests that ''''Mary Poppins is God'''' and can create living worlds

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*** The presumption that it is otherwise suggests that ''''Mary Poppins is God'''' and can create living worldsworlds.
** It was definitely something unpleasant. When the rain began, Mary not only ''said'' "Stay close" to the children, she pulled them in as tightly against her as possible -- implying they might have been washed away with the chalk (or trapped in a crumbling world like Vanellope in Disney/WreckItRalph) if they weren't safely inside her magical aura.
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* Why does everyone in Bert's chalk drawing world love Mary so much? Because he does too.
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*** Fortunately, ''Mary Poppins Returns'' shows that Jane and Michael lived past WWI, and started families of their own.

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* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his tea ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all.

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* Mr. Banks has a whole song about how he loves everything being just so, arriving home at six, with his tea ready at six oh two, and such. Why isn't he concerned by the [[HilarityEnsues antics]] caused by Admiral Boom's cannon salutes? Because ''that'' is [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight part of his routine as well]]. Admiral Boom is nothing if not famously punctual, after all. And the perspective is not at all unlike that held by people living in dangerous places, such as soldiers in a warzone who might treat enemy raids as just part of the nine to five, as it were. "Normal" is a matter of perspective.

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