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* If you're on the path for "A Painting's Demise", you briefly get to play as Mary. [[spoiler: There is no rose for her in the upper right-hand corner. Because she doesn't need one; her SoulJar is her painting.]]

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* If you're on the path for "A Painting's Demise", you briefly get to play as Mary. [[spoiler: There is no rose for her in the upper right-hand left-hand corner. Because she doesn't need one; her SoulJar is her painting.]]
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* When Ib is with Mary, she almost never runs into enemies. [[spoiler: It's because Mary's also a painting, and wants to escape with Ib.]]

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* When Ib is with Mary, she almost never runs into enemies. [[spoiler: It's because Mary's also a painting, and wants to escape with Ib. Also, the other artworks are like family to Mary.]]




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* If you're on the path for "A Painting's Demise", you briefly get to play as Mary. [[spoiler: There is no rose for her in the upper right-hand corner. Because she doesn't need one; her SoulJar is her painting.]]
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* If you head for the BonusDungeon while Garry is with you, Garry comments that he feels like he's been by those stairs before. This sounds odd as Ib's never seen those particular stairs in her life, but then you realize those stairs lead you to an alternate version of the Lady in Blue's hallway.
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* The "A Painting's Demise" ending is full of it. Not only [[spoiler: are any loved ones of Ib and Garry never going to see them again]], but there's also the whole thing with Mary's attempt [[spoiler: to leave. In order for Mary to be able to leave, someone has to take her place. In the ending "Together, Forever", this happens; Garry dies in the phantom gallery and Mary is able to leave with Ib. However, even though Garry and Ib both remain in the phantom gallery in the ending "A Painting's Demise", Mary's attempt to leave in that case ends up destroying her. Since neither Garry nor Ib were actually dead at the time, at least not yet, this indicates that it's not merely someone staying behind that's needed; someone has to actually die]]. What if Mary had managed to convince Ib to [[spoiler: leave with her]] in the "A Painting's Demise" ending? Would Ib have had to [[spoiler: see Mary die right before her eyes]]?

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* The "A Painting's Demise" ending is full of it. Not only [[spoiler: are any loved ones of Ib and Garry never going to see them again]], but there's also the whole thing with Mary's attempt [[spoiler: to leave. In order for Mary to be able to leave, someone has to take her place. In the ending "Together, Forever", this happens; Garry dies in the phantom gallery and Mary is able to leave with Ib. However, even though Garry and Ib both remain in the phantom gallery in the ending "A Painting's Demise", Mary's attempt to leave in that case ends up destroying her. Since neither Garry nor Ib were actually dead at the time, at least not yet, this indicates that it's not merely someone staying behind that's needed; someone has to actually die]]. What if Mary had managed to convince Ib to [[spoiler: leave with her]] in the "A Painting's Demise" ending? Would Ib have had to [[spoiler: see Mary die right before her eyes]]?eyes]]?
* The doll room event, the toy box, and the fact that you get bad endings by being mean to the gallery hint that the artworks have a special sort of bond with each other and are at times fiercely protective of each other, and the endings "Welcome to the World of Guertena" and "A Painting's Demise" pretty well confirm it. As well, [[spoiler: Mary]] considers Guertena as a father and refers to the other artworks as siblings. This makes [[spoiler: Mary stabbing the mannequin head during her psychotic breakdown]] a lot more upsetting, since [[spoiler: she's basically hurting her own sibling.]] More horror kicks in when you are in the BonusDungeon. One of the paintings there is named "Mistake", there are two paintings, one of them being "Mistake", who have had their faces scribbled out, and a couple of paintings are found in a completely dark room, hidden from sight. How do these artworks feel towards Guertena? Do they feel abandoned by him?
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* The Ladies follow you around almost hungrily in the gallery because Guertena based them on GoldDigger[=s=] he met in his life, and as a result they are greedy just by their nature.
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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that got lost in the gallery and later died, which seemed to be based on Ib as a worst case scenario. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]

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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that got lost in the gallery and later died, which seemed to be based on Ib as a worst case scenario. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.implications.]]]]
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** [[spoiler: Due to how flammable art can be - particularly oil paintings - and the way you end up defeating her, it is very likely that Mary wrote all over the room.]]

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** [[spoiler: Due to how flammable art can be - be- particularly oil paintings - paintings- and the way you end up defeating her, it is very likely that Mary wrote all over the room.]]



*** [[spoiler:If you examine the mirror after that scene, there's a chance that you'll see "NOFIRE" written everywhere.]]

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*** [[spoiler:If [[spoiler: If you examine the mirror after that scene, there's a chance that you'll see "NOFIRE" "NO FIRE" written everywhere.]]
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* The painting that uses unnatural vines to seperate Garry from Mary and Ib is the Flowers of Jealousy. [[spoiler: Mary also uses vines to protect her things and her yellow rose can mean envy or jealousy as well as friendship.]]

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* The painting that uses unnatural vines to seperate separate Garry from Mary and Ib is the Flowers of Jealousy. [[spoiler: Mary also uses vines to protect her things and her yellow rose can mean envy or jealousy as well as friendship.]]
*The painting of a figure in brown was [[spoiler: not killed for helping Ib, but for telling the truth, [[CategoryTraitor of all things]], in the [[MeaningfulName Liar's Room.]]]]
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** In that same ending, take note of the Lady in Blue. [[spoiler: She is holding Garry's rose. ''Again.'']]
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* The "Welcome to the World of Guertena" ending in 1.04. [[spoiler: Garry goes utterly insane. Ib has a breakdown over this. Mary keeps them both trapped in her world, forever. Ib's parents and any friends or family Garry might have are never going to see either of them again. To make it even worse, in the gallery's celebration of Mary having two new friends, Ib and Garry weren't moving at all, making Mary's keeping them a possible MummiesAtTheDinnerTable situation to boot.]]

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* The "Welcome to the World of Guertena" ending in 1.04. [[spoiler: Garry goes utterly insane. Ib has a breakdown over this. Mary keeps them both trapped in her world, forever. Ib's parents and any friends or family Garry might have are never going to see either of them again. To make it even worse, in the gallery's celebration of Mary having two new friends, Ib and Garry weren't moving at all, making Mary's keeping them a possible MummiesAtTheDinnerTable situation to boot.]]]]
* The "A Painting's Demise" ending is full of it. Not only [[spoiler: are any loved ones of Ib and Garry never going to see them again]], but there's also the whole thing with Mary's attempt [[spoiler: to leave. In order for Mary to be able to leave, someone has to take her place. In the ending "Together, Forever", this happens; Garry dies in the phantom gallery and Mary is able to leave with Ib. However, even though Garry and Ib both remain in the phantom gallery in the ending "A Painting's Demise", Mary's attempt to leave in that case ends up destroying her. Since neither Garry nor Ib were actually dead at the time, at least not yet, this indicates that it's not merely someone staying behind that's needed; someone has to actually die]]. What if Mary had managed to convince Ib to [[spoiler: leave with her]] in the "A Painting's Demise" ending? Would Ib have had to [[spoiler: see Mary die right before her eyes]]?
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** Alternatively, [[spoiler: it's a description of what will happen to Ib in the "Ib Alone" endings.]]

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** Alternatively, [[spoiler: it's a description of what will happen to Ib in the "Ib Alone" endings.]]
* The "Welcome to the World of Guertena" ending in 1.04. [[spoiler: Garry goes utterly insane. Ib has a breakdown over this. Mary keeps them both trapped in her world, forever. Ib's parents and any friends or family Garry might have are never going to see either of them again. To make it even worse, in the gallery's celebration of Mary having two new friends, Ib and Garry weren't moving at all, making Mary's keeping them a possible MummiesAtTheDinnerTable situation to boot.
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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that got lost in the gallery and later died, which seemed to be based on Ib as a worst case scenario. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]

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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that got lost in the gallery and later died, which seemed to be based on Ib as a worst case scenario. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]]]]]
** Alternatively, [[spoiler: it's a description of what will happen to Ib in the "Ib Alone" endings.]]
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** [[spoiler: Mary's rose is yellow. While red, blue, and yellow are famously known to be the primary colours, the other set of primary colours is red, blue, and green. Yellow is the odd one out.]]

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** [[spoiler: Mary's rose is yellow. While red, blue, and yellow are famously known to be the primary colours, colours of pigment, the other set of primary colours is of light are red, blue, and green which are reflected by either the stems of the roses or the way Mary's dress is green. Yellow [[spoiler: Though Mary's yellow rose is the odd one out.out she is still trying to appear like she belongs.]]



* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that lost in the gallery that presumably died which seemed to be based on Ib. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]

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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that got lost in the gallery that presumably died and later died, which seemed to be based on Ib.Ib as a worst case scenario. [[spoiler: If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]
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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that lost in the gallery that presumably died which seemed to be based on Ib. [[spoiler: if the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]

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* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that lost in the gallery that presumably died which seemed to be based on Ib. [[spoiler: if If the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: Garry, Ib, and Mary have the primary colors as their own rose colors in an art themed game.]]

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* [[spoiler: Garry, Ib, and Mary have the primary colors of paint as their own rose colors in an art themed game.]]




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* The painting that uses unnatural vines to seperate Garry from Mary and Ib is the Flowers of Jealousy. [[spoiler: Mary also uses vines to protect her things and her yellow rose can mean envy or jealousy as well as friendship.]]



* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana seemingly didn't base his paintings on real people, but in the Forgotten Portrait ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. What if the paintings actually ARE real people who died in the art world and no one remembers that they were real? What if this whole cycle repeats itself endlessly, with nobody on the outside world noticing that people go missing? What if the monsters that tried to kill Ib and Garry were only doing so because they desperately wanted to escape?]]

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* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana seemingly didn't base most of his paintings on real people, but in the Forgotten Portrait ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. What if the some of his paintings actually ARE real people who died in the art world and no one remembers that they were real? What if this whole cycle repeats itself endlessly, with nobody on the outside world noticing that people go missing? What if the monsters that tried to kill Ib and Garry were only doing so because they desperately wanted to escape?]]escape?]]
* In one of the books you can read about a little girl that lost in the gallery that presumably died which seemed to be based on Ib. [[spoiler: if the above theories are true then that girl was probably Mary, and the fact she was Guertana's last work can create [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone interesting]] [[DrivenToSuicide implacations.]]]]
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*** [[spoiler:If you examine the mirror after that scene, there's a chance that you'll see "NOFIRE" written everywhere.]]
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** [[spoiler: Mary's rose is yellow. While red, blue, and yellow are famously known to be the primary colours, the other set of primary colours is red, blue, and green. Yellow is the odd one out.]]
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* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his paintings on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world]] just no one remembers that they were real.

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* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana seemingly didn't base his paintings on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten Portrait ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe What if the paintings actually ARE based on real people who died in the art world]] just world and no one remembers that they were real.real? What if this whole cycle repeats itself endlessly, with nobody on the outside world noticing that people go missing? What if the monsters that tried to kill Ib and Garry were only doing so because they desperately wanted to escape?]]
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* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his painting s on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world.]]

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* [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his painting s paintings on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world.]]world]] just no one remembers that they were real.
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* [[spolier: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his painting s on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world.]]

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* [[spolier: [[spoiler: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his painting s on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world.]]
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* [[spoiler: Mary has to switch places with a real human to escape the painting world, which she plans to accomplish by killing Garry. Additionally, in the endings where Garry dies, he replaces a portrait in the gallery, and a clone of him will try to lead Ib away from the exit.]] But what if it ''isn't'' a fake? [[TheVirus Does being killed by a painting monster turn you into one of them?]]

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* [[spoiler: Mary has to switch places with a real human to escape the painting world, which she plans to accomplish by killing Garry. Additionally, in the endings where Garry dies, he replaces a portrait in the gallery, and a clone of him will try to lead Ib away from the exit.]] But what if it ''isn't'' a fake? [[TheVirus Does being killed by a painting monster turn you into one of them?]]them?]]
* [[spolier: Apparently, it is possible to lose your memory and not regain it after you leave the art world. Also, people outside the world can have their memories changed like Ib's parents in Together Forever. Guertana didn't base his painting s on real people, but in the Portrait Forgotten ending Garry takes the place of the Hanged Man painting. Maybe the paintings ARE based on real people who died in the art world.]]
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** The second version is much crueler, [[spoiler: as Ib heads back to the portal ''alone'', since Garry dies from exchanging his rose with Mary, who plucks the petal off of it, in order to retrieve Ib's from her. Just as you choose to go back to the real world, Garry appears and convinces Ib that the exit to go back was somewhere else. The choice to follow Garry simply ends with Ib following him off-screen, and that's it.]] [[NothingIsScarier And you don't even know what happens afterwards]], [[spoiler: or where the Fake Garry is taking Ib.]]

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** The second version is much crueler, [[spoiler: as Ib heads back to the portal ''alone'', since Garry dies from exchanging his rose with Mary, who plucks the petal off of it, in order to retrieve Ib's from her. Just as you choose to go back to the real world, Garry appears and convinces Ib that the exit to go back was somewhere else. The choice to follow Garry simply ends with Ib following him off-screen, and that's it.]] [[NothingIsScarier And you don't even know what happens afterwards]], [[spoiler: or where the Fake Garry is taking Ib.]]]]
* [[spoiler: Mary has to switch places with a real human to escape the painting world, which she plans to accomplish by killing Garry. Additionally, in the endings where Garry dies, he replaces a portrait in the gallery, and a clone of him will try to lead Ib away from the exit.]] But what if it ''isn't'' a fake? [[TheVirus Does being killed by a painting monster turn you into one of them?]]
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* When Ib is with Mary, she almost never runs into enemies. [[spoiler: It's because Mary's also a painting, and wants to escape with Ib.]]
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* [[spoiler: If you try to look into a mirror with Mary in your party (which you probably won't, since it involves otherwise pointless backtracking) the mirror shatters.]]
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***[[spoiler: That, and did you notice the red footprints lead out of the room with "Separation" and towards the hall with Mary?]]
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** [[spoiler: Due to how flammable art can be - particularly oil paintings - and the way you end up defeating her, it is very likely that Mary wrote all over the room.]]
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* It is never explained why there is a painting of Ib's parents in the fabricated world.
* It is also never explained who could have written the creepy writing in the room with the "Separation" painting.
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*[[spoiler: Garry, Ib, and Mary have the primary colors as their own rose colors in an art themed game.]]
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** The second version is much crueler, [[spoiler: as Ib heads back to the portal ''alone'', since Garry dies from exchanging his rose with Mary, who plucks the petal off of it, in order to retrieve Ib's from her. Just as you choose to go back to the real world, Garry appears and convinces Ib that the exit to go back was somewhere else. The choice to follow Garry simply ends with Ib following him off-screen, and that's it.]] [[NothingIsScarier And you don't even know what happens afterwards]], [[spoiler: or where the Fake Garry is taking Ib.]]
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* The endings "Ib All Alone": Depending on how you've completed the game, [[spoiler: you discovered the portrait that leads back to the real world with Garry. Even though you decide to jump into the painting, Ib's mother arrives and scolds her for running off with strangers. You can choose to either go with Ib's mother or head back to the real world with Garry. If you choose to stay, Ib will follow her mother, only for a static ScareChord and a split-second screen black-out to reveal that Ib is following ''nothing'', all while Garry is calling to her from within the portal.]] Let this sink in for a moment; you've done everything in your power to save this girl, [[spoiler: and now she's trapped in the painting world forever, trailing with an illusion she believe is her mother.]] Dear God...

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