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*** That was unexpectedly and awesomely profound. Good show. O.O
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* You'll notice that at the exact same time the narrator mentions that reindeer are scarce, the camera goes to a frame of a pair of antlers hanging on the Grinch's wall. You can let that sink in for a minute.
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* FridgeHorror: During a flashback, babies come to Whoville in flying baskets. The Grinch's basket knocks one of the other baskets away and, presumably, takes that baby's place. What happened to the Who baby inside?!
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* FridgeHorror: During a flashback, babies come to Whoville in flying baskets. The Grinch's basket knocks one of the other baskets away and, presumably, takes that baby's place. What happened to the Who baby inside?!inside?!
** It probably went to Grinchville. Or something.
** It probably went to Grinchville. Or something.
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** People also walk on snow. In other words, they could be stepped on. Add in the event that neither happen, snow does melt...
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** People also walk on snow. In other words, they could be stepped on. Add And in the event that neither happen, snow does melt...
** It's ok, because time compression might apply for Whoville. In the span of the lifetime of a snowflake, (i.e. a few minutes at best) an equivalent of the Earth's lifetime goes past, in a process similar to relativity. Their eventual extinction is as inevitable and no more depressing than that of our own.
** It's ok, because time compression might apply for Whoville. In the span of the lifetime of a snowflake, (i.e. a few minutes at best) an equivalent of the Earth's lifetime goes past, in a process similar to relativity. Their eventual extinction is as inevitable and no more depressing than that of our own.
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** The movie says "No-one quite knows the reason", despite the Grinch getting a backstory. But when the Narrator is talking, nobody ''did'' know the reason. Cindy Lou was the first person to really try and understand him, and she had to patch it together from multiple sources.
** The film gives us a more plausible reason why after fifty years of putting up with Christmas, he finally decides to steal it. The Mayor's foolish attempt to [[Main/BullyingADragon mess with him]] and finding out his crush is [[Main/LoveMakesYouEvil marrying another]] pushes him over the edge.
*** It also shows that while the Grinch may have changed his mind about Christmas, his dislike of the Mayor was still there when he returned with Cindy and the sleigh.
** The film gives us a more plausible reason why after fifty years of putting up with Christmas, he finally decides to steal it. The Mayor's foolish attempt to [[Main/BullyingADragon mess with him]] and finding out his crush is [[Main/LoveMakesYouEvil marrying another]] pushes him over the edge.
*** It also shows that while the Grinch may have changed his mind about Christmas, his dislike of the Mayor was still there when he returned with Cindy and the sleigh.
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* While the film gets criticized for making the Whos less sympathetic, they still seem thoroughly wholesome beings when directed properly. They quickly forgive the Grinch and welcome him to the festivities ''twice over'', and it all it takes is Cindy Lou and her father's speech about the real meaning of Christmas to destroy their materialistic nature. The only remaining antagonistic figure afterwards is the Mayor, who genuinely is materialistic and cynical, and also holds most of the power in the city (as well as being a tad of a ManipulativeBastard). In retrospect, the Whos are as inherently well meaning as they are in previous interpretations, albeit much more impressionable and easy to corrupt.
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* While the film gets criticized for making the Whos less sympathetic, they still seem thoroughly wholesome beings when directed properly. They quickly forgive the Grinch and welcome him to the festivities ''twice over'', and it all it takes is Cindy Lou and her father's speech about the real meaning of Christmas to destroy their materialistic nature. The only remaining antagonistic figure afterwards is the Mayor, who genuinely is materialistic and cynical, and also holds most of the power in the city (as well as being a tad of a ManipulativeBastard). In retrospect, the Whos are as inherently well meaning as they are in previous interpretations, [[GoodIsDumb albeit much more impressionable and easy to corrupt.
corrupt]] (which given the standard buffoonery in DrSeuss works, isn't hard to imagine).
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* While the film gets criticized for making the Whos less sympathetic, they still seem thoroughly wholesome beings when directed properly. They quickly forgive the Grinch and welcome him to the festivities ''twice over'', and it all it takes is Cindy Lou and her father's speech about the real meaning of Christmas to destroy their materialistic nature. The only remaining antagonistic figure afterwards is the Mayor, who genuinely is materialistic and cynical, and also holds most of the power in the city (as well as being a tad of a ManipulativeBastard). In retrospect, the Whos are as inherently well meaning as they are in previous interpretations, albeit much more impressionable and easy to corrupt.
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** He tries to save the sled even before he finds out Cindy is on it, but is about to give up ''until'' he see's she's on it.
--> "Oh well, it's just... ''toys'', right?
--> "Oh well, it's just... ''toys'', right?
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* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled.
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* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled. Because if the sled went over Cindy Lou would [[Main/AdultFear fall over with it]].
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*** The film It also gives us a better reason why shows that while the Grinch is able to save may have changed his mind about Christmas, his dislike of the presents, because Mayor was still there when he returned with Cindy Lou was going to [[Main/AdultFear fall over with them]].
and the sleigh.
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* The movie says "No-one quite knows the reason", despite the Grinch getting a backstory. But when the Narrator is talking, nobody ''did'' know the reason. Cindy Lou was the first person to really try and understand him, and she had to patch it together from multiple sources.
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** The film gives us a more plausible reason why after fifty years of putting up with Christmas, he finally decides to steal it. The Mayor's foolish attempt to [[Main/BullyingADragon mess with him]] and finding out his crush is [[Main/LoveMakesYouEvil marrying another]] pushes him over the edge.
*** The film also gives us a better reason why the Grinch is able to save the presents, because Cindy Lou was going to [[Main/AdultFear fall over with them]].
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* Some FridgeHorror for the book, too: For fifty-three years, the Grinch has been holed up in his cave, loathing the joys of Christmas, but most importantly, the noise and the singing. For fifty-three YEARS. That's enough to make a person go insane. And, technically, he is! Or, at least the Whos think so.
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* Some FridgeHorror for the book, too: For fifty-three years, the Grinch has been holed up in his cave, loathing the joys of Christmas, but most importantly, the noise and the singing. For fifty-three YEARS. That's enough to make a person go insane. And, technically, he is! Or, at least the Whos think so.so.
* FridgeHorror: During a flashback, babies come to Whoville in flying baskets. The Grinch's basket knocks one of the other baskets away and, presumably, takes that baby's place. What happened to the Who baby inside?!
* FridgeHorror: During a flashback, babies come to Whoville in flying baskets. The Grinch's basket knocks one of the other baskets away and, presumably, takes that baby's place. What happened to the Who baby inside?!
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--->Wait a minute! "Whatever reason"? Dude, are you high?! THEY JUST TOLD YA THE REASON, YA DUMB STUPID GUY!! It's because he was mocked all the way from the start! What, did you just fall asleep at that part??!
--->Wait a minute! "Whatever reason"? Dude, are you high?! THEY JUST TOLD YA THE REASON, YA DUMB STUPID GUY!! It's because he was mocked all the way from the start! What, did you just fall asleep at that part??!
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--->Wait a minute! "Whatever reason"? Dude, are you high?! THEY JUST TOLD YA THE REASON, YA DUMB STUPID GUY!! It's because he was mocked all the way from the start! What, did you just fall asleep at that part??!
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** Which makes itself an even bigger HeartwarmingMoment than the book originally; [[IntergenerationalFriendship it shows just how close he has gotten with Cindy]]
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** Which makes itself an even bigger HeartwarmingMoment SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}} than the book originally; [[IntergenerationalFriendship it shows just how close he has gotten with Cindy]]Cindy]].
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--->Wait a minute! "Whatever reason"? Dude, are you high?! THEY JUST TOLD YA THE REASON, YA DUMB STUPID GUY!! It's because he was mocked all the way from the start! What, did you just fall asleep at that part??!
--->Wait a minute! "Whatever reason"? Dude, are you high?! THEY JUST TOLD YA THE REASON, YA DUMB STUPID GUY!! It's because he was mocked all the way from the start! What, did you just fall asleep at that part??!
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* He stole everything else in Whoville, but he didn't steal the bells needed for the singing at the end. Why not?
* If he had just realized that Christmas "doesn't come from a store," why did he risk his and his dog's lives trying to save the presents?
* When one considers that he only left "a crumb that was even too small for a mouse," one would think that he'd leave it. Instead, he reached back and took it.
* He stuffed the entire tree up the chimney in Cindy Lou's house, leaving enough ornaments on that one fell off, but he still wasted a few minutes (at least) removing the ornaments.
* If he hated children's toys, and he didn't want to wake the kids in the houses he was robbing, why was he spending all his time ''playing'' with the toys?
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* He stole everything else in Whoville, but he didn't steal the bells needed for the singing at the end. Why not?
* If he had just realized that Christmas "doesn't come from a store," why did he risk his and his dog's lives trying to save the presents?
* When one considers that he only left "a crumb that was even too small for a mouse," one would think that he'd leave it. Instead, he reached back and took it.
* He stuffed the entire tree up the chimney in Cindy Lou's house, leaving enough ornaments on that one fell off, but he still wasted a few minutes (at least) removing the ornaments.
* If he hated children's toys, and he didn't want to wake the kids in the houses he was robbing, why was he spending all his time ''playing'' with the toys?
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I most recently saw the play and realized this when the got to a very, VERY confusing and loud number.
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** People also walk on snow. In other words, they could be stepped on. Add in the event that neither happen, snow does melt...melt...
*Some FridgeHorror for the book, too: For fifty-three years, the Grinch has been holed up in his cave, loathing the joys of Christmas, but most importantly, the noise and the singing. For fifty-three YEARS. That's enough to make a person go insane. And, technically, he is! Or, at least the Whos think so.
*Some FridgeHorror for the book, too: For fifty-three years, the Grinch has been holed up in his cave, loathing the joys of Christmas, but most importantly, the noise and the singing. For fifty-three YEARS. That's enough to make a person go insane. And, technically, he is! Or, at least the Whos think so.
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* FridgeHorror: Whoville is on a snowflake. People catch snowflakes on their tongues not to mention the other things that happen to snowflakes. Just consider the possibilities how this could end badly for the Whos.
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* FridgeHorror: Whoville is on a snowflake. People catch snowflakes on their tongues not to mention the other things that happen to snowflakes. Just consider the possibilities how this could end badly for the Whos.Whos.
** People also walk on snow. In other words, they could be stepped on. Add in the even that neither happen, snow does melt...
** People also walk on snow. In other words, they could be stepped on. Add in the even that neither happen, snow does melt...
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** Which makes itself an even bigger HeartwarmingMoment than the book originally; [[IntergenerationalFriendship it shows just how close he has gotten with Cindy]]
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* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled.
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* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled.sled.
* FridgeHorror: Whoville is on a snowflake. People catch snowflakes on their tongues not to mention the other things that happen to snowflakes. Just consider the possibilities how this could end badly for the Whos.
* FridgeHorror: Whoville is on a snowflake. People catch snowflakes on their tongues not to mention the other things that happen to snowflakes. Just consider the possibilities how this could end badly for the Whos.
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*** The Grinch couldn't have been up there for 50 years in the movie. Unless Whos age more slowly than humans, he and his former classmates are too young to be 60-odd years old.old.
* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled.
* The film solves a problem I had with the book and animated adaption: why does The Grinch care so much about saving the presents when Christmas "came just the same" without them? (Although it was a nice thing to do.) In the movie, Cindy is on the sled with the presents, giving The Grinch a much better reason to save the sled.
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** This troper has never really considered before (probably due to FurryConfusion), but The Grinch appears to be [[NakedPeopleAreFunny a nudist.]] As an added bonus, his tendency to eat beer bottles in TheMovie is probably a metaphor for alcoholism. Well, I guess being an isolated hermit for more than 50 years does this kind of shit to you.
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** This troper has never really considered before (probably due to FurryConfusion), but The Grinch appears to be [[NakedPeopleAreFunny a nudist.]] As an added bonus, his tendency to eat beer bottles in TheMovie is probably a metaphor for alcoholism. Well, I guess being an isolated hermit for more than 50 years does this kind of shit to you.you.
*** The Grinch couldn't have been up there for 50 years in the movie. Unless Whos age more slowly than humans, he and his former classmates are too young to be 60-odd years old.
*** The Grinch couldn't have been up there for 50 years in the movie. Unless Whos age more slowly than humans, he and his former classmates are too young to be 60-odd years old.
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** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch. Think about it, he's been alone in a cave most of his life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head. This is given weight by the fact that, as a kid (before he moved to the cave), he was ([[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior relatively]]) normal.
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** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch. Think about it, he's been alone in a cave most of his life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head. This is given weight by the fact that, as a kid (before he moved to the cave), he was ([[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior relatively]]) normal.normal.
** This troper has never really considered before (probably due to FurryConfusion), but The Grinch appears to be [[NakedPeopleAreFunny a nudist.]] As an added bonus, his tendency to eat beer bottles in TheMovie is probably a metaphor for alcoholism. Well, I guess being an isolated hermit for more than 50 years does this kind of shit to you.
** This troper has never really considered before (probably due to FurryConfusion), but The Grinch appears to be [[NakedPeopleAreFunny a nudist.]] As an added bonus, his tendency to eat beer bottles in TheMovie is probably a metaphor for alcoholism. Well, I guess being an isolated hermit for more than 50 years does this kind of shit to you.
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** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch is [[LoveItOrHateIt criticized by some]], but think Grinch. Think about it, he's been alone in a cave most of his life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head. This is given weight by the fact that, as a kid (before he moved to the cave), he was ([[TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior ([[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior relatively]]) normal.
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** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch is [[LoveItOrHateIt criticized by some]], but think about it, he's been alone in a cave for most of his entire life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head. This is given weight by the fact that, as a kid (before he moved to the cave), he was ([[TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior relatively]]) normal.
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** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch is often criticized, [[LoveItOrHateIt criticized by some]], but think about it, he's been alone in a cave for his entire life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head. This is given weight by the fact that, as a kid (before he moved to the cave), he was ([[TroublingUnchildhoodBehavior relatively]]) normal.
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** Who's to say that Whoville is not the same speck as in ''HortonHearsAWho'', but stuck on a snowflake? It would explain why Whoville can have both warm and snowy weather.weather.
** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch is often criticized, but think about it, he's been alone in a cave for his entire life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head.
** Jim Carrey's over-the-top performance as The Grinch is often criticized, but think about it, he's been alone in a cave for his entire life. It makes sense he wouldn't be all that right in the head.
