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25th Dec '16 12:02:22 PM TronEladio
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* Where does "Dumbledore's Army" have their first meeting? At Hog's Head, [[spoilers: owned by Aberforth Dumbledore, truly making it a Dumbledore army]],
25th Dec '16 11:59:10 AM TronEladio
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24th Dec '16 6:13:50 PM TheMysteriousTroper
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* How is Umbridge [[spoiler:a KarmaHoudini so that in book six she's still working at the Ministry and even had the gall to mention to Rufus Scrimgeour that Harry wants to be an Auror when she said she would do anything to make sure he would never become one?]] Because anyone who would speak against her like Harry, Hermione, and the Gryffindors that suffered directly under her role [[spoiler:have lost faith in the Ministry's competence, namely in how the Ministry tried to run the school like a dictatorship, and face bigger problems with Voldemort's return made public]]. Dumbledore puts the Ministry out of mind once he gets his school back, and focuses on finding [[spoiler:Voldemort's weakness]], McGonagall is still recovering [[spoiler:from her four Stunners to the chest]], and Hagrid wants nothing to do with Aurors that [[spoiler:tried to forcibly remove him from his post]]. As for the students that benefited, like the Slytherins, it's best for them to keep their mouths shut since [[spoiler:even if they have the gold to bribe politicians, like the Malfoys did.]]

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* How is Umbridge [[spoiler:a KarmaHoudini so that in book six she's still working at the Ministry and even had the gall to mention to Rufus Scrimgeour that Harry wants to be an Auror when she said she would do anything to make sure he would never become one?]] Because anyone who would speak against her like Harry, Hermione, and the Gryffindors that suffered directly under her role [[spoiler:have lost faith in the Ministry's competence, namely in how the Ministry tried to run the school like a dictatorship, and face bigger problems with Voldemort's return made public]]. Dumbledore puts the Ministry out of mind once he gets his school back, and focuses on finding [[spoiler:Voldemort's weakness]], McGonagall [=McGonagall=] is still recovering [[spoiler:from her four Stunners to the chest]], and Hagrid wants nothing to do with Aurors that [[spoiler:tried to forcibly remove him from his post]]. As for the students that benefited, like the Slytherins, it's best for them to keep their mouths shut since [[spoiler:even if they have the gold to bribe politicians, like the Malfoys did.]]
15th Nov '16 9:06:34 PM xXwindsofchangeXx
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*** Or a much sadder option is in play; it's shown in several instances that emotional upheaval can have serious effects on a wizard's powers and even their vitality. [[TearJerker Perhaps Mrs. Crouch died of a broken heart.]]
15th Nov '16 8:59:32 PM xXwindsofchangeXx
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*** On the other hand, Umbridge, given that she was a screaming racist, probably believed the very worst things about centaurs, including the Greek mythology stories where they rape women - so the encounter with them would have nonetheless been extremely traumatizing.
28th Sep '16 5:16:39 AM JamesSwann
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** Not true -- Pottermore, and J.K's writing on it -- confirm that Wizards can easily cure any Muggle illnesses they get (which is why they don't have any Muggle illness floors at St. Mungo's), implying that Mrs Crouch died of something incurable, like Dragon Pox.
9th Sep '16 8:46:36 AM 8BrickMario
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* The name of the titular Order gains new meaning the second time it's formed, since a phoenix is the being that joins Harry and Voldemort by wand; a connection that is partially responsible for the backfired Killing Curse in Harry's infancy. Now, the Order stands for the Harry/Voldemort conflict, which might not have happened without Fawkes the phoenix.
18th Jul '16 11:48:39 PM DannWoolf
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* This is the book wich has Petunia showing some HypocriticalHumor (with J.K. making sure it won't go unnoticed). This is also the book with the two most significant bits about her connection with the magical world (Dumledore's letter and her referencing "that horrible boy"). After finding out, in the last book, that [[spoiler: her contempt for the magical world came from her wanting to go to Hogwarts and not being able to]], it was hardly a coincidence.

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* This is the book wich which has Petunia showing some HypocriticalHumor (with J.K. making sure it won't go unnoticed). This is also the book with the two most significant bits about her connection with the magical world (Dumledore's letter and her referencing "that horrible boy"). After finding out, in the last book, that [[spoiler: her contempt for the magical world came from her wanting to go to Hogwarts and not being able to]], it was hardly a coincidence.
17th Jul '16 10:03:16 AM Jayalaw
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* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].

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* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious Sirius overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].



* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due to Harry forgiving him.]]

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* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due fortune as an adult so he doesn't need to Harry forgiving him.work.]]
13th Jul '16 7:02:54 PM Jayalaw
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* How is Umbridge [[spoiler:a KarmaHoudini so that in book six she's still working at the Ministry and even had the gall to mention to Rufus Scrimgeour that Harry wants to be an Auror when she said she would do anything to make sure he would never become one?]] Because anyone who would speak against her like Harry, Hermione, and the Gryffindors that suffered directly under her role [[spoiler:have lost faith in the Ministry's competence, namely in how the Ministry tried to run the school like a dictatorship, and face bigger problems with Voldemort's return made public]]. Dumbledore puts the Ministry out of mind once he gets his school back, and focuses on finding [[spoiler:Voldemort's weakness]], McGonagall is still recovering [[spoiler:from her four Stunners to the chest]], and Hagrid wants nothing to do with Aurors that [[spoiler:tried to forcibly remove him from his post]]. As for the students that benefited, like the Slytherins, it's best for them to keep their mouths shut since [[spoiler:even if they have the gold to bribe politicians, like the Malfoys did.]]
* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].


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* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due to Harry forgiving him.]]
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