History Fridge / HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix

18th Jul '16 11:48:39 PM DannWoolf
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* This is the book wich has Petunia showing some HypocriticalHumor (with J.K. making sure it won't go unnoticed). This is also the book with the two most significant bits about her connection with the magical world (Dumledore's letter and her referencing "that horrible boy"). After finding out, in the last book, that [[spoiler: her contempt for the magical world came from her wanting to go to Hogwarts and not being able to]], it was hardly a coincidence.

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* This is the book wich which has Petunia showing some HypocriticalHumor (with J.K. making sure it won't go unnoticed). This is also the book with the two most significant bits about her connection with the magical world (Dumledore's letter and her referencing "that horrible boy"). After finding out, in the last book, that [[spoiler: her contempt for the magical world came from her wanting to go to Hogwarts and not being able to]], it was hardly a coincidence.
17th Jul '16 10:03:16 AM Jayalaw
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* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].

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* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious Sirius overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].



* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due to Harry forgiving him.]]

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* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due fortune as an adult so he doesn't need to Harry forgiving him.work.]]
13th Jul '16 7:02:54 PM Jayalaw
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* How is Umbridge [[spoiler:a KarmaHoudini so that in book six she's still working at the Ministry and even had the gall to mention to Rufus Scrimgeour that Harry wants to be an Auror when she said she would do anything to make sure he would never become one?]] Because anyone who would speak against her like Harry, Hermione, and the Gryffindors that suffered directly under her role [[spoiler:have lost faith in the Ministry's competence, namely in how the Ministry tried to run the school like a dictatorship, and face bigger problems with Voldemort's return made public]]. Dumbledore puts the Ministry out of mind once he gets his school back, and focuses on finding [[spoiler:Voldemort's weakness]], McGonagall is still recovering [[spoiler:from her four Stunners to the chest]], and Hagrid wants nothing to do with Aurors that [[spoiler:tried to forcibly remove him from his post]]. As for the students that benefited, like the Slytherins, it's best for them to keep their mouths shut since [[spoiler:even if they have the gold to bribe politicians, like the Malfoys did.]]
* Snape's NeverMyFault attitude about [[spoiler:failing to teach Harry Occlumency, since it was as much his fault for kicking Harry out as it was Harry's for not trying to learn]] falls in line with TheReveal that [[spoiler:after he switched sides he begged Dumbledore not to tell anyone about why he switched, as well as his hatred for Harry, James and Sirious overcoming TheNeedsOfTheMany.]] While he knows that it's important that Harry needs to learn Occlumency, [[spoiler:Snape doesn't shed tears over the fact that Sirius died as a consequence of Harry not learning to block his mind and for him Sirius wasn't exactly a valuable member of the Order, so in his mind the outcome wasn't as terrible as it could have been]].


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* Considering the actions of the Inquisitorial Squad, they dealt in TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior as Umbridge's secret police by condoning her actions and turning a blind eye to [[spoiler: her torturing students or preparing to do so]]. [[spoiler:After the war, all it would take is a few words from the entire Hogwarts student body to make sure that the former members never received respectable positions in the Ministry. Malfoy's pretty lucky to have his family fortune, let alone a job due to Harry forgiving him.]]
4th Jul '16 11:50:29 PM shamblingdead2
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** It's stated in the sixth book that various spells go "in and out of fashion," so that was one that many of James' school mates had probably used to bully someone. Sort of the wizarding equivalent of stuffing a nerd into a locker or giving a swirly.
1st Jul '16 2:31:01 PM bxxchcraft
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•Except the centaurs in Harry Potter are nothing like the centaurs in greek mythology. The centaurs in Harry Potter are proud creatures who like to predict the future using the stars. The centaurs in greek mythology are chaotic and out of control. Also, due to the lack of women's rights in Ancient Greece, rape wasn't considered a serious crime back then, so if JK Rowling was trying to copy the centaurs from greek mythology, which she wasn't, she probably wouldn't have made them rapists.

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•Except ** Except the centaurs in Harry Potter are nothing like the centaurs in greek mythology. The centaurs in Harry Potter are proud creatures who like to predict the future using the stars. The centaurs in greek mythology are chaotic and out of control. Also, due to the lack of women's rights in Ancient Greece, rape wasn't considered a serious crime back then, so if JK Rowling was trying to copy the centaurs from greek mythology, which she wasn't, she probably wouldn't have made them rapists.
21st Jun '16 2:54:26 PM SCPIhpkmn
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* This book introduces Vanishing Charms, which makes the target vanish "into non-being, which is to say, everything" - in other words, you are destroying the physical form of the thing you are vanishing and scattering its atoms. They practice this on ''animals'' with Hermione vanishing a ''kitten'' at one point. Keep in mind Hermione owns a cat. Despite the fact that this is essentially a more terrifying version of ''Avada Kedavera'', it's taught to fifteen-year-olds. Imagine if a Death Eater used that on a human- come to think of it, a lot of people vanished in the last two books and were never explicitly heard from again...
5th Jun '16 8:48:14 AM jainasolo
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•Except the centaurs in Harry Potter are nothing like the centaurs in greek mythology. The centaurs in Harry Potter are proud creatures who like to predict the future using the stars. The centaurs in greek mythology are chaotic and out of control. Also, due to the lack of women's rights in Ancient Greece, rape wasn't considered a serious crime back then, so if JK Rowling was trying to copy the centaurs from greek mythology, which she wasn't, she probably wouldn't have made them rapists.
22nd Jan '16 1:31:20 PM Discar
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* Fudge asks "Squibs can't see Dementors, can they?" File that right in there with Wizards being clueless about Muggles - despite the fact that they are at the ministry they don't even seem to have a "Department of Squibs" who can answer that question immediately. Also, imagine being Argus Filch during ''Prisoner of Azkaban,'' where the school is surrounded by Dementors that everyone ''but'' him can see, and he has no defense against them at all. He's a jerk, sure, but that's very harsh.
** Arabella Figg -- a Squib -- was called upon by Dumbledore as a witness to the Dementors' attack on Harry and Big D. Squibs can see dementors just fine. Squibs are not Muggles. Squibs percieve the magical world just fine -- they just can't do anything in it other than perceive it. The fact that Fudge didn't know that much just shows how he's becoming more deluded about what's happening at this point in the story.
22nd Jan '16 12:47:19 AM tigerplish
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** Arabella Figg -- a Squib -- was called upon by Dumbledore as a witness to the Dementors' attack on Harry and Big D. Squibs can see dementors just fine. Squibs are not Muggles. Squibs percieve the magical world just fine -- they just can't do anything in it other than perceive it. The fact that Fudge didn't know that much just shows how he's becoming more deluded about what's happening at this point in the story.
9th Jan '16 5:05:24 AM Mantyf
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* In Order of the Phoenix, Dolores Umbridge is not shown to be a particularly talented witch, being utterly unable to combat Fred and George's wild array of spells, but she has complete confidence in her ability to cast the Cruciatus Curse (described as a very hard curse to bring off) on Harry. The most likely explanation? ''She's had plenty of practice using it before.''

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* In Order of the Phoenix, Dolores Umbridge is not shown to be a particularly talented witch, being utterly unable to combat Fred and George's wild array of spells, but she has complete confidence in her ability to cast the Cruciatus Curse (described as a very hard curse to bring off) on Harry. The most likely explanation? ''She's had plenty of practice using it before.'''' The fact she calmly states that the use of an illegal curse won't be a problem if nobody finds out it's been used doesn't help.
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