History Fridge / HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix

30th Nov '17 3:01:59 AM Ymirsdaughter
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* Umbridge, the woman who got dragged into the forest to be raped by centaurs, has the given name Dolores. Now, it can mean "pain" all it wants, but we know of another [[Literature/Lolita Dolores]] who got raped.

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* Umbridge, the woman who got dragged into the forest to be raped by centaurs, has the given name Dolores. Now, it can mean "pain" all it wants, but we know of another [[Literature/Lolita [[Literature/{{Lolita}} Dolores]] who got raped.
30th Nov '17 3:01:23 AM Ymirsdaughter
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* Umbridge, the woman who got dragged into the forest to be raped by centaurs, has the given name Dolores. Now, it can mean "pain" all it wants, but we know of another [[Literature/Lolita Dolores]] who got raped.
12th Nov '17 7:55:53 PM xXwindsofchangeXx
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* It seems very apparent that Harry is looking for Sirius in row number 97. The first Harry Potter book was published in 1997.

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* It seems very apparent that Harry is looking for Sirius in row number 97. The first Harry Potter book (and where Sirius is first introduced via a passing mention by Hagrid in the very first chapter) was published in 1997.
7th Nov '17 10:42:44 AM JulianLapostat
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* The bullying in Snape's Worst Memory had to have taken place after Sirius tried to get him killed by Lupin (as The Prince's Tale shows us Snape and Lily were still on speaking terms after that incident, and they aren't after SWM). So Snape knew Lupin was a werewolf and could have ruined his life if he decided to tell anyone... and, knowing this, Lupin's best friends continued to torment Snape for shits and giggles.
* Relevant to the above: Snape invented a cutting spell and used it at least once in defence against the Marauders' attacks; this is either deeply worrying escalation or a deeply worrying proportional response. James filled his mouth with soap suds to choke him; he and Sirius also levitated Snape upside down, exposing his underwear to [[AllTheOtherReindeer a crowd of laughing onlookers]], and may have publicly stripped him after Harry was pulled out of the Pensieve flashback; James certainly expressed the intent to do so. And all this happened in a context of the Marauders bullying Snape since day one and Sirius trying to feed him to a werewolf - even if Dumbledore didn't expel him because Lupin would suffer collateral damage, he should have at least kept a closer eye on this kid [[DeadlyPrank who committed attempted murder]]. [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors No one seems to have been expelled for any of this.]]
* The giants Hagrid meets with are the last giant colony on earth. While he was there they fell into a Civil War after their reasonable Gurg who wished to ally with Dumbledore (since he remembered that Dumbledore had tried to save the giants from extinction after the last war with Voldemort in which many were essentially used as canon fodder by Voldemort) is murdered even further decimating their numbers. This means that there are less than 100 of them left in the world and they are likely on their way out despite Dumbledore's intervention.
7th Nov '17 1:07:39 AM tafelshrew
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** On the contrary, Deathly Hallows confirmed that Lily and Snape ''did'' still talk after his "worst memory" even if their friendship was broken. There's certainly some horror to be found in the fact that Snape's reaction to James and Sirius' revolting and cruel but ultimately physically harmless bullying (using a spell which he himself invented and they presumably learned when he used it on them) was to slice at James' face and try to disfigure him considering that Snape, James and Sirius were unquestionably hexing each other throughout their entire time at Hogwarts.
*** They talked once, in which Lily broke off their friendship. I can't imagine them having that conversation about Lupin after Lily cut off all contact. But you're right about Snape inventing a knife spell (though you're confusing Sectumsempra with Levicorpus; this is the only time we know Snape used Sectumsempra in a non-war context and the Marauders didn't know it), so let's add the kind of things these kids were doing to each other - in public, no less - to the list...
* So, Snape invented a cutting spell and used it at least once in defence against physical attacks (because the Marauders did use physical spells against him; it's right there in that scene). James filled his mouth with soap suds to choke him. He and Sirius also levitated Snape upside down, exposing his underwear to [[AllTheOtherReindeer a crowd of laughing onlookers]], and may have publicly stripped him after Harry was pulled out of the Pensieve flashback; James certainly expressed the intent to do so. And all this happened in a context of the Marauders bullying him since day one and Sirius trying to feed Snape to a werewolf - even if Dumbledore didn't expel him because Lupin would suffer collateral damage, he should have at least kept a closer eye on this kid [[DeadlyPrank who committed attempted murder]]. [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors No one seems to have been expelled for any of this.]]

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** On the contrary, Deathly Hallows confirmed that Lily and Snape ''did'' still talk after his "worst memory" even if their friendship was broken. There's certainly some horror to be found in the fact that Snape's reaction to James and Sirius' revolting and cruel but ultimately physically harmless bullying (using a spell which he himself invented and they presumably learned when he used it on them) was to slice at James' face and try to disfigure him considering that Snape, James and Sirius were unquestionably hexing each other throughout their entire time at Hogwarts.
*** They talked once, in which Lily broke off their friendship. I can't imagine them having that conversation about Lupin after Lily cut off all contact. But you're right about Snape inventing a knife spell (though you're confusing Sectumsempra with Levicorpus; this is the only time we know Snape used Sectumsempra in a non-war context and the Marauders didn't know it), so let's add the kind of things these kids were doing to each other - in public, no less -
* Relevant to the list...
* So,
above: Snape invented a cutting spell and used it at least once in defence against physical attacks (because the Marauders did use physical spells against him; it's right there in that scene). Marauders' attacks; this is either deeply worrying escalation or a deeply worrying proportional response. James filled his mouth with soap suds to choke him. He him; he and Sirius also levitated Snape upside down, exposing his underwear to [[AllTheOtherReindeer a crowd of laughing onlookers]], and may have publicly stripped him after Harry was pulled out of the Pensieve flashback; James certainly expressed the intent to do so. And all this happened in a context of the Marauders bullying him Snape since day one and Sirius trying to feed Snape him to a werewolf - even if Dumbledore didn't expel him because Lupin would suffer collateral damage, he should have at least kept a closer eye on this kid [[DeadlyPrank who committed attempted murder]]. [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors No one seems to have been expelled for any of this.]]
6th Nov '17 3:04:42 PM tafelshrew
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*** They talked once, in which Lily broke off their friendship. I can't imagine them having that conversation about Lupin after Lily cut off all contact. But you're right about Snape inventing a knife spell (though you're confusing Sectumsempra with Levicorpus; this is the only time we know Snape used Sectumsempra in a non-war context and the Marauders didn't know it), so let's add the kind of things these kids were doing to each other - in public, no less - to the list...
* So, Snape invented a cutting spell and used it at least once in defence against physical attacks (because the Marauders did use physical spells against him; it's right there in that scene). James filled his mouth with soap suds to choke him. He and Sirius also levitated Snape upside down, exposing his underwear to [[AllTheOtherReindeer a crowd of laughing onlookers]], and may have publicly stripped him after Harry was pulled out of the Pensieve flashback; James certainly expressed the intent to do so. And all this happened in a context of the Marauders bullying him since day one and Sirius trying to feed Snape to a werewolf - even if Dumbledore didn't expel him because Lupin would suffer collateral damage, he should have at least kept a closer eye on this kid [[DeadlyPrank who committed attempted murder]]. [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors No one seems to have been expelled for any of this.]]
2nd Nov '17 3:18:10 PM darkemyst
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** On the contrary, Deathly Hallows confirmed that Lily and Snape ''did'' still talk after his "worst memory" even if their friendship was broken. There's certainly some horror to be found in the fact that Snape's reaction to James and Sirius' revolting and cruel but ultimately physically harmless bullying (using a spell which he himself invented and they presumably learned when he used it on them) was to slice at James' face and try to disfigure him considering that Snape, James and Sirius were unquestionably hexing each other throughout their entire time at Hogwarts.
* The giants Hagrid meets with are the last giant colony on earth. While he was there they fell into a Civil War after their reasonable Gurg who wished to ally with Dumbledore (since he remembered that Dumbledore had tried to save the giants from extinction after the last war with Voldemort in which many were essentially used as canon fodder by Voldemort) is murdered even further decimating their numbers. This means that there are less than 100 of them left in the world and they are likely on their way out despite Dumbledore's intervention.
2nd Nov '17 3:17:58 AM tafelshrew
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* Remember that spell that James used to humiliate Snape? Well, in "Half-Blood Prince", this very spell is in the Half-Blood Prince's text book as one of the jinxes that the Prince had invented. And, since [[spoiler: Snape is the Half-Blood Prince, James must've learned it because Snape had been casting this spell himself! Hell, he'd most likely have used it on James himself. Suddenly, the whole incident doesn't seem quite as unprovoked as Harry had believed.]]

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* Remember that spell that James used to humiliate Snape? Well, in "Half-Blood Prince", this very spell is in the Half-Blood Prince's text book as one of the jinxes that the Prince had invented. And, since [[spoiler: Snape is the Half-Blood Prince, James must've learned it because Snape had been casting this spell himself! Hell, he'd most likely have used it on James himself. Suddenly, the whole incident doesn't seem quite as unprovoked as Harry had believed.believed - although since the Marauders started the whole feud unprovoked, Snape would have been fighting back when he developed it.]]


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* The bullying in Snape's Worst Memory had to have taken place after Sirius tried to get him killed by Lupin (as The Prince's Tale shows us Snape and Lily were still on speaking terms after that incident, and they aren't after SWM). So Snape knew Lupin was a werewolf and could have ruined his life if he decided to tell anyone... and, knowing this, Lupin's best friends continued to torment Snape for shits and giggles.
4th Sep '17 8:24:22 AM TallTroper
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* Why doesn't Harry report Umbridge detentions to anybody? Because in previous years, most authority figures haven't believed him, disregarded him, or shown grievous bias in their own judgement.
** His upbringing with the Dursley's, (Self-explanatory)
** Most teacher's not believing him about either the Philospher's Stone being in danger, Sirius' innocence, or Voldemort's return.
** Lockhart's FakeUltimateHero status.
** Snape's teaching (Again, self-explanatory).
** And to top it off, the Order is blatantly keeping things from him, Dumbledore himself is distant, means that Harry sadly realized that he can't really count on anybody to help him in this case.
19th Mar '17 3:01:14 PM rahalstmin
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* Where does "Dumbledore's Army" have their first meeting? At Hog's Head, [[spoilers: owned by Aberforth Dumbledore, truly making it a Dumbledore army]],

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* Where does "Dumbledore's Army" have their first meeting? At Hog's Head, [[spoilers: [[spoiler: owned by Aberforth Dumbledore, truly making it a Dumbledore army]],
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