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14th Jul '17 1:13:09 PM TropeRoper
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* Gilgamesh’s best friend Enkidu becomes Gilgamesh’s Noble Phantasm weapon: a set of chains. This doesn’t sound right, unless you know their mythology: Enkidu was a bestial man who was domesticated by civilization. A chain, or a leash, would be the best fit for such a character.
** Enkidu additionally has the ability to shapeshift. He was created from mud and water in the original myth.

24th May '17 9:32:57 AM HighCrate
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* On the same token, Berserker summoned as Assassin. Think about it: ''Herakles'' with the ability to hide and sneak up on anyone. Assassin is usually balanced because he's the weakest Servant, but with the WorldsStrongestMan... And that's probably why normally Assassin can only be one of the Hassans: [[GenreSavvy the creators didn't want something like this to happen]].

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* On the same token, Berserker summoned as Assassin. Think about it: ''Herakles'' with the ability to hide and sneak up on anyone. Assassin is usually balanced because he's the weakest Servant, but with the WorldsStrongestMan... And that's probably why normally Assassin can only be one of the Hassans: [[GenreSavvy Hassans: the creators didn't want something like this to happen]].happen.
6th May '17 4:25:52 AM akanesarumara
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** To elaborate, yes, Shinji dies like the scum he is in both other routes, but there is no indication about Zouken, which means that ''he'' is perfectly well and alive after those routes, free to continue what he has always done.
12th Mar '17 10:41:07 AM akanesarumara
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** [[spoiler: Adding to that, Pegasus was specifically her son by Poseidon, and the name of the attack, Bellerophon, shares its name with another son of Poseidon's, the one famous for being Pegasus's rider.]]
20th Feb '17 6:26:18 AM Hyperversum
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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: During the end the 4th Holy Grail War, Kirei was smaller than in 5th.]] A grown up man took 10cm after his 30s at random? No, the intense usage of magic stimulates the body. And another effect is modifying the skin of the user. [[spoiler:this is how Archer turned SO tanned. He abused magecraft.]] * In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:

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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: During the end the 4th Holy Grail War, Kirei was smaller than in 5th.]] A grown up man took 10cm after his 30s at random? No, the intense usage of magic stimulates the body. And another effect is modifying the skin of the user. [[spoiler:this is how Archer turned SO tanned. He abused magecraft.]] ]]
* In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:
20th Feb '17 6:25:42 AM Hyperversum
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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: During the end the 4th Holy Grail War, Kirei was smaller than in 5th.]] A grown up man took 10cm after his 30s at random? No, the intense usage of magic stimulates the body. And another effect is modifying the skin of the user. [[this is how Archer turned SO tanned. He abused magecraft.]] * In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:

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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: During the end the 4th Holy Grail War, Kirei was smaller than in 5th.]] A grown up man took 10cm after his 30s at random? No, the intense usage of magic stimulates the body. And another effect is modifying the skin of the user. [[this [[spoiler:this is how Archer turned SO tanned. He abused magecraft.]] * In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:
20th Feb '17 6:24:32 AM Hyperversum
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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: At the end of the 4th Holy Grail War, Kiritsugu implanted Avalon in Shirou's body, using up the final remnants of its healing powers to save him.]] What other effect did [[spoiler: Avalon]] have than [[spoiler: healing?]] [[spoiler: Keeping its owner eternally young! It's possible that Shirou being healed by Avalon also made him age slower!]]
* In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:

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* When you learn [[spoiler: Archer's identity]], it seems strange that [[spoiler: he's 20cm taller than Shirou.]] But think back. [[spoiler: At During the end of the 4th Holy Grail War, Kiritsugu implanted Avalon Kirei was smaller than in Shirou's body, using 5th.]] A grown up man took 10cm after his 30s at random? No, the final remnants intense usage of its healing powers to save him.]] What other magic stimulates the body. And another effect did [[spoiler: Avalon]] have than [[spoiler: healing?]] [[spoiler: Keeping its owner eternally young! It's possible that Shirou being healed by Avalon also made him age slower!]]
is modifying the skin of the user. [[this is how Archer turned SO tanned. He abused magecraft.]] * In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:
4th Jan '17 9:24:42 PM eshur0s
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** Heaven's Feel: Saber was corrupted by the Shadow, and was under [[spoiler:Dark Sakura's]] command. While she ultimately died by Shirou and Rider's teamwork, Sakura was ultimately the final master standing by the time the Grail was destroyed/sealed.

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** Heaven's Feel: Saber was corrupted by the Shadow, and was under [[spoiler:Dark Sakura's]] command. While she Saber ultimately died by Shirou and Rider's teamwork, disregarding Kirei's FamousLastWords, Sakura was ultimately the final master standing by the time the Grail was destroyed/sealed.
4th Jan '17 9:22:58 PM eshur0s
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* In the beginning of the war, Rin claims that Saber is the strongest class and the Holy Grail is as good as hers if she summons a heroic spirit in that class. Given that in all 3 routes, a Master of Saber has in some way won the war, she is not kidding:
** Fate: Shirou summoned the Saber that his father used in the [[LightNovel/FateZero Fourth Holy Grail War]] and proceeds to fight and win the War.
** Unlimited Blade Works: After Shirou lost Saber to Caster, [[spoiler:Archer planned events so that Rin would make a contract with Saber and win the Grail after Archer kills Shirou.]] While things don't go exactly according to [[spoiler:Archer's]] plan, Rin is the last master standing at the end of the war.
** Heaven's Feel: Saber was corrupted by the Shadow, and was under [[spoiler:Dark Sakura's]] command. While she ultimately died by Shirou and Rider's teamwork, Sakura was ultimately the final master standing by the time the Grail was destroyed/sealed.
28th Nov '16 6:06:01 AM MrCairo
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* Gilgamesh believes humanity has become weak, and seeks to use [[spoiler: the corrupted grail]] to cleanse the world of people he views as unworthy. [[spoiler: Only those capable of surviving Angra Mainyu's curse will become his subjects. Shirou does exactly that in the climax of Fate, before he projects Avalon and defeats Kotomine.]]

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* Gilgamesh believes humanity has become weak, and seeks wishes to use [[spoiler: the corrupted grail]] to cleanse purge the world by recreating the hellish fire from ten years ago on a global scale. The only ones he considers worthy of people he views as unworthy. [[spoiler: Only becoming his subjects are those capable of surviving Angra Mainyu's curse will become his subjects. [[spoiler: the curses unleashed by the corrupted grail.]] At the end of the Fate route, [[spoiler: Shirou does exactly that in the climax of Fate, before he projects that, projecting Avalon and defeats Kotomine.shrugging off the Grail's curses in order to defeat Kirei.]] And in Unlimited Blade Works, [[spoiler: Gilgamesh himself is defeated by Shirou - the only survivor of the fire caused by the Grail's previous activation, and therefore the only human who, even by Gilgamesh's standards, is undeniably "worthy".]]
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