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3rd Feb '16 1:49:40 PM ultimomant
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* Why did Shirou manage to beat Archer? Why Archer's own skills of course. Archer's entire style is about beating people tougher, faster and out right better the he his, which Shirou stole and used against him.
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* Why did Shirou manage to beat Archer? Why Archer's own skills of course. Archer's entire style is about beating people tougher, faster and out right better the than he his, is, which Shirou stole and used against him.
7th Jan '16 9:04:16 AM deezee
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* The Fate route deals with Saber's regrets regarding her kingship - she believes she should never have drawn Caliburn and become king. One of the turning points in the route occurs when Shirou projects Caliburn for her - reiterating her claim to the throne.
18th Nov '15 4:41:06 PM mindstalk
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** This is expanded even further when you realize that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the ancient Japanese art of archery. In the Fate route, Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: it's the hint Shirou needs to realize how to use his projection magic properly]]. The archery club scene in Unlimited Blade Works makes this even more blatant as we can see the steps to fire an arrow [[spoiler: mirror the steps Shirou used to project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]]. The parallel is completed later in UBW when [[spoiler: Shirou's projected swords repeatedly break because he doesn't have to calm, nothingness/void state of mind that was stated was needed for archery, where the result is predetermined in one's mind and success is guaranteed before one even begins.]] Archer's skill, Eye of the Mind (True) is a reflection of his mastery of this, where his NervesOfSteel enable him to focus his mind only on his objectives and see the best way to reach it, formulating and "firing" even complex tactics as easily as he fires his arrows.
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** This is expanded even further when you realize that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the ancient Japanese art of archery. In the Fate route, Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: it's the hint Shirou needs to realize how to use his projection magic properly]]. The archery club scene in Unlimited Blade Works makes this even more blatant as we can see the steps to fire an arrow [[spoiler: mirror the steps Shirou used to project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]]. The parallel is completed later in UBW when [[spoiler: Shirou's projected swords repeatedly break because he doesn't have to the calm, nothingness/void state of mind that was stated was needed for archery, where the result is predetermined in one's mind and success is guaranteed before one even begins.]] Archer's skill, Eye of the Mind (True) is a reflection of his mastery of this, where his NervesOfSteel enable him to focus his mind only on his objectives and see the best way to reach it, formulating and "firing" even complex tactics as easily as he fires his arrows.
7th Sep '15 8:46:16 PM phantomdemon
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*Why did Shirou manage to beat Archer? Why Archer's own skills of course. Archer's entire style is about beating people tougher, faster and out right better the he his, which Shirou stole and used against him.
21st Aug '15 7:36:00 AM Grade0
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* Toward the beginning of the story, Sakura is noted to a have a peculiar bruise on the back of her hand, and when Shirou questions Shinji on it, he says he had nothing to do with it. [[spoiler: He's telling the truth; that bruise was the beginnings of Sakura's Command Seal. As it disappeared not long after, she must have summoned Rider and handed her off to Shinji very shortly thereafter.]]
23rd Jul '15 12:27:43 AM deezee
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* Gilgamesh believes humanity has become weak, and seeks to use [[spoiler: the corrupted grail]] to cleanse the world of people he views as unworthy. [[spoiler: Only those capable of surviving Angra Mainyu's curse will become his subjects. Shirou does exactly that in the climax of Fate, before he projects Avalon and defeats Kotomine.]]

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11th Jul '15 5:53:50 PM WNinja
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* Archer's arrival [[spoiler:at the end of UBW seems to be very unlikely considering the circumstances.]] However, when one proposes that Gilgamesh's attack actually ''did'' [[spoiler:kill Archer, his return for the finale can be explained by his Guardian nature. His interference in the Grail War caused a new anomaly that had to be fixed, and so he was immediately sent to fix it.]]
4th Jun '15 5:07:13 PM Basileus
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** This is expanded even further when you realize that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the ancient Japanese art of archery. This can be seen as early as the Fate route when Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: this provides Shirou with the hint he needs to realize that his projection magic, which is the same as Archer's, follows extremely similar steps of composition needed for it to work successfully]]. Taiga's lecture in the Archery Club early in Unlimited Blade Works makes it even more blatant as the player can see [[spoiler: that the steps Shirou describes when he fired a bow mirrors the steps he used to properly project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]]. We also see this applied improperly by [[spoiler: Shirou's attempts to copy Archer for much of Unlimited Blade Works, as his projections are incomplete and severely weakened from trying to brute force the projection or skip steps. It's only when Shirou learns to perform each step in one fluid motion without being self-conscious of the result that he can project weapons perfectly...exactly as an arrow is fired in Kyudo]].
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** This is expanded even further when you realize that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the ancient Japanese art of archery. This can be seen as early as In the Fate route when route, Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: this provides Shirou with it's the hint he Shirou needs to realize that how to use his projection magic, which is the same as Archer's, follows extremely similar steps of composition needed for it to work successfully]]. Taiga's lecture in the Archery Club early magic properly]]. The archery club scene in Unlimited Blade Works makes it this even more blatant as the player we can see the steps to fire an arrow [[spoiler: that mirror the steps Shirou describes when he fired a bow mirrors the steps he used to properly project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]]. We also see this applied improperly by The parallel is completed later in UBW when [[spoiler: Shirou's attempts projected swords repeatedly break because he doesn't have to copy Archer calm, nothingness/void state of mind that was stated was needed for much of Unlimited Blade Works, as his projections are incomplete and severely weakened from trying to brute force the projection or skip steps. It's only when Shirou learns to perform each step in one fluid motion without being self-conscious of archery, where the result that is predetermined in one's mind and success is guaranteed before one even begins.]] Archer's skill, Eye of the Mind (True) is a reflection of his mastery of this, where his NervesOfSteel enable him to focus his mind only on his objectives and see the best way to reach it, formulating and "firing" even complex tactics as easily as he can project weapons perfectly...exactly as an arrow is fired in Kyudo]].fires his arrows.

* Shirou's problem with his magic circuits in the Fate route almost perfectly mirrors his struggles with [[spoiler: projection magic]] in he Unlimited Blade Works route. In the former, Shirou keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: he keeps trying to create a new magic circuit each time he needs to use magic instead of using the ones he already has]]. In the latter, Shirou keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: he keeps trying to create swords entirely from scratch every time he projects instead of drawing the copy he already has in his Reality Marble]].
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* Shirou's problem with his magic circuits in the Fate route almost perfectly mirrors his struggles with [[spoiler: projection magic]] in he the Unlimited Blade Works route. In the former, Shirou keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: he keeps trying to create a new magic circuit each time he needs to use magic instead of using the ones he already has]]. In the latter, Shirou keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: he keeps trying to create swords entirely from scratch every time he projects instead of drawing the copy he already has in his Reality Marble]].
13th May '15 2:15:56 PM Discar
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* Many people wonder why Archer was summoned as an Archer, instead of Saber, since he uses swords, and barely ever uses his bow. If you think about it, and play the game, though, it makes perfect sense for at least four reasons. [[spoiler: 1. His favoured martial art in life was archery, and he was most skilled with a bow. 2. Archer treats his weapons as totally disposable, and is a total CombatPragmatist. This win-at-any-cost attitude is reflective of the Archer class, not the honorable fighters represented by the Saber class. 3. Both inside and outside his Reality Marble, Archer can levitate his swords in midair and fire them in the same manner as the Gate of Babylon, which itself is the reason why Gilgamesh is an Archer. 4. Archer's entire backstory and mindset, and abilities, are reflective of the ancient Japanese philosophy of archery as a martial art. The perfect archer is one who has learnt to suppress the self, and give over one's life entirely to attaining a goal. The self becomes the bow, and as long as one imagines hitting the target, the target can be hit. Archer embodies precisely a dark version of this ideal. This is even set up in a ChekhovsGun near the beginning of UBW.]]
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* Archer's class: ** Many people wonder why Archer was summoned as an Archer, instead of Saber, since he uses swords, and barely ever uses his bow. If you think about it, and play the game, though, it makes perfect sense for at least four reasons. [[spoiler: 1. His favoured martial art in life was archery, and he was most skilled with a bow. 2. Archer treats his weapons as totally disposable, and is a total CombatPragmatist. This win-at-any-cost attitude is reflective of the Archer class, not the honorable fighters represented by the Saber class. 3. Both inside and outside his Reality Marble, Archer can levitate his swords in midair and fire them in the same manner as the Gate of Babylon, which itself is the reason why Gilgamesh is an Archer. 4. Archer's entire backstory and mindset, and abilities, are reflective of the ancient Japanese philosophy of archery as a martial art. The perfect archer is one who has learnt to suppress the self, and give over one's life entirely to attaining a goal. The self becomes the bow, and as long as one imagines hitting the target, the target can be hit. Archer embodies precisely a dark version of this ideal. This is even set up in a ChekhovsGun near the beginning of UBW.]]
12th May '15 4:53:34 PM Basileus
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** This is expanded even further when you realized that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the aforementioned ancient Japanese art of archery. This can be seen as early as the Fate route when Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: this provides Shirou with the hint he needs to realize that his projection magic, which is the same as Archer's, follows extremely similar steps of composition needed for it to work successfully]]. Taiga's explanation of Kyudo and how utterly amazing at it Shirou is early in Unlimited Blade Works makes it even more blatant as the player can see [[spoiler: that the steps Shirou uses in the archery club mirrors the steps he used to properly project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]].
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** This is expanded even further when you realized realize that Archer's special ability [[spoiler: Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on the same principles as Kyudo, the aforementioned ancient Japanese art of archery. This can be seen as early as the Fate route when Archer gives Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, [[spoiler: this provides Shirou with the hint he needs to realize that his projection magic, which is the same as Archer's, follows extremely similar steps of composition needed for it to work successfully]]. Taiga's explanation of Kyudo and how utterly amazing at it Shirou is lecture in the Archery Club early in Unlimited Blade Works makes it even more blatant as the player can see [[spoiler: that the steps Shirou uses in the archery club describes when he fired a bow mirrors the steps he used to properly project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]]. We also see this applied improperly by [[spoiler: Shirou's attempts to copy Archer for much of Unlimited Blade Works, as his projections are incomplete and severely weakened from trying to brute force the projection or skip steps. It's only when Shirou learns to perform each step in one fluid motion without being self-conscious of the result that he can project weapons perfectly...exactly as an arrow is fired in Kyudo]].

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** This is expanded even further when you realized that Archer's special ability * Shirou's problem with his magic circuits in the Fate route almost perfectly mirrors his struggles with [[spoiler: projection magic]] in he Unlimited Blade Works and Tracing, his unique form of projection magic]] is actually based entirely on route. In the same principles as Kyudo, the aforementioned ancient Japanese art of archery. This can be seen as early as the Fate route when Archer gives former, Shirou advice which initially sounds like him condescendingly reminding Shirou of the eight steps of firing, which is Kyudo 101. In actuality, keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: this provides Shirou with the hint he keeps trying to create a new magic circuit each time he needs to realize that his projection magic, which is use magic instead of using the same as Archer's, follows extremely similar steps of composition needed for it to work successfully]]. Taiga's explanation of Kyudo and how utterly amazing at it ones he already has]]. In the latter, Shirou is early in Unlimited Blade Works makes it even more blatant as the player can see keeps struggling to use magic because [[spoiler: that he keeps trying to create swords entirely from scratch every time he projects instead of drawing the steps Shirou uses copy he already has in the archery club mirrors the steps he used to properly project Caliburn toward the end of Fate]].his Reality Marble]].
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