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* The circus foreman seems to be awfully possessive of Nagini; he keeps her in a caged room, which he has access to, is clearly threatened by her closeness with Credence, and he invades her personal space quite easily (and to her apparent discomfort). Perhaps Nagini's situation in the circus is even worse than it seems.

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* Why was Credence employed by the freak circus? He doesn't look abnormal, he cannot control his power, and his most impressive magic involves turning everyone and everything around him to dust. The boss already had a house elf to take care of menial tasks. What could Credence possibly do to profit the troupe?
** Its a freak show filled with 'oddities'. Credence is probably the oldest Obscurial on record.
** It's unlikely that Credence actually told the ringmaster who or what he was; more likely, he claimed to be a Squib in desperate need of a job. The house elf can't be everywhere at once, so having a second pair of hands to keep the show operating at its peak was worth the ringmaster paying Credence a pittance. He kept working there despite the lousy pay because he discovered that he and Nagini have a lot in common, as both have been reviled for what they are and have been warned that a horrible fate - dying like every other Obscurial for him, becoming a snake permanently for her - is hanging over their heads.
** A deleted scene explains this: despite having a house elf the Circus Arcanus stills needs to appear like a normal circus when outside magical areas and a house elf can't be used amongst Muggles -- they needed laborers to help move the circus equipment and paraphernalia off the New York docks and onto the ship bound for Europe and Skender chose Credence basically at random from a crowd of would-be roustabouts.
*** Maybe not so random, he likely could tell Credence had some sort of magical connection. We don't see wizards mistaking Muggles for fellow wizards, there seems to be some way of sensing the difference.
*** Which seems to be confirmed when Grindelwald has the little boy killed - as mentioned further up, he was probably confirming whether the boy was magical and thus of value or not.

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* The circus foreman seems to be awfully possessive of Nagini; he keeps her in a caged room, which he has access to, is clearly threatened by her closeness with Credence, and he invades her personal space quite easily (and to her apparent discomfort). Perhaps Nagini's situation in the circus is even worse than it seems. \n\n! FridgeLogic\n* Why was Credence employed by the freak circus? He doesn't look abnormal, he cannot control his power, and his most impressive magic involves turning everyone and everything around him to dust. The boss already had a house elf to take care of menial tasks. What could Credence possibly do to profit the troupe?\n** Its a freak show filled with 'oddities'. Credence is probably the oldest Obscurial on record.\n** It's unlikely that Credence actually told the ringmaster who or what he was; more likely, he claimed to be a Squib in desperate need of a job. The house elf can't be everywhere at once, so having a second pair of hands to keep the show operating at its peak was worth the ringmaster paying Credence a pittance. He kept working there despite the lousy pay because he discovered that he and Nagini have a lot in common, as both have been reviled for what they are and have been warned that a horrible fate - dying like every other Obscurial for him, becoming a snake permanently for her - is hanging over their heads.\n** A deleted scene explains this: despite having a house elf the Circus Arcanus stills needs to appear like a normal circus when outside magical areas and a house elf can't be used amongst Muggles -- they needed laborers to help move the circus equipment and paraphernalia off the New York docks and onto the ship bound for Europe and Skender chose Credence basically at random from a crowd of would-be roustabouts.\n*** Maybe not so random, he likely could tell Credence had some sort of magical connection. We don't see wizards mistaking Muggles for fellow wizards, there seems to be some way of sensing the difference.\n*** Which seems to be confirmed when Grindelwald has the little boy killed - as mentioned further up, he was probably confirming whether the boy was magical and thus of value or not.
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** Or, perhaps Queenie was only reading Newt's current/surface thoughts, and thus was unaware of the whole story. She could see they'd been close friends, but not ''why''. She saw that Newt took the heat for her and was expelled, but not what Newt had gotten out of the relationship before that, nor what the relative consequences would have been for Newt versus Lyta. Assuming the expulsion happened in between O.W.L.s and N.E.W.T.s, Newt already had what he needed for his future plans, and was already a social outcast (and likely preferred to get away from people), while Lyta likely would have had a very hard time indeed from her family if she'd embarrassed them like that.
** Another factor is that Lyta's love-starved childhood home life left her in great need of affection and attention, without teaching her how to express love to others. She hadn't been brought up in the sort of loving home Queenie and Tina had, that would show her how to ''give'', but she was practically a bottomless pit of need for love, so would be a ''taker'' for as much as Newt could offer. Newt, on the spectrum, wasn't the best as showing love and affection, so his levels of ''give'' didn't match her need to ''take'', but at the time she was so unused to ''any'' positive interactions that she probably would have been scared off by anything stronger, while he may have had the common inability to deal with too-intense sensory input, so her low level of ''giving'' worked for him at the time. Now that he's grown and gained more social skills, Tina is a much better match for him.

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** Or, perhaps Queenie was only reading Newt's current/surface thoughts, and thus was unaware of the whole story. She could see they'd been close friends, but not ''why''. She saw that Newt took the heat for her and was expelled, but not what Newt had gotten out of the relationship before that, nor what the relative consequences would have been for Newt versus Lyta.Leta. Assuming the expulsion happened in between O.W.L.s and N.E.W.T.s, Newt already had what he needed for his future plans, and was already a social outcast (and likely preferred to get away from people), while Lyta Leta likely would have had a very hard time indeed from her family if she'd embarrassed them like that.
** Another factor is that Lyta's Leta's love-starved childhood home life left her in great need of affection and attention, without teaching her how to express love to others. She hadn't been brought up in the sort of loving home Queenie and Tina had, that would show her how to ''give'', but she was practically a bottomless pit of need for love, so would be a ''taker'' for as much as Newt could offer. Newt, on the spectrum, wasn't the best as showing love and affection, so his levels of ''give'' didn't match her need to ''take'', but at the time she was so unused to ''any'' positive interactions that she probably would have been scared off by anything stronger, while he may have had the common inability to deal with too-intense sensory input, so her low level of ''giving'' worked for him at the time. Now that he's grown and gained more social skills, Tina is a much better match for him.
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*** Maybe not so random, he likely could tell Credence had some sort of magical connection. We don't see wizards mistaking Muggles for fellow wizards, there seems to be some way of sensing the difference.

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*** Maybe not so random, he likely could tell Credence had some sort of magical connection. We don't see wizards mistaking Muggles for fellow wizards, there seems to be some way of sensing the difference.difference.
**** Which seems to be confirmed when Grindelwald has the little boy killed - as mentioned further up, he was probably confirming whether the boy was magical and thus of value or not.
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** At the same time, she remembers disliking her half-brother and being deprived of the affection from her father after he was born [[HeirClubForMen simply for being a girl.]] Nobody that hears the story believes that she subconsciously wanted her brother to die as a child. But she might - and it would explain a lot about her. Suffering trauma at an age where you can't even process it is rough even at the best of times and with no one to love her, it would be easy for her to grow up thinking that Corvus's death was out of a subconscious desire on her part to have him out of the way instead of what it was - a child's mostly harmless, if a tiny bit selfish, decision compounded by a large helping of awful luck.
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* Overlaps with FridgeHorror, but the revelation that Nagini was once a human shapechanger may account for how, in ''Deathly Hallows'', she was able to post as Bathilda Bagshot so well. Merely stitching a snake up into the shell of a woman's skin wouldn't allow it to control four human limbs at once - at most, it could slip its tail into one limb and its head into another - yet Nagini manages somehow. Possibly (here's the Horror part) Nagini still has some tiny residue of her capacity to transform between snake and human forms, only the latter form is so difficult to achieve that, by the time she becomes Voldemort's pet, she can ''only'' adopt a human form for a matter of minutes ... and only if she has a ''genuine'' human husk to shape herself to fit. Those few minutes she spent luring Harry and Hermione into a trap at Godric's Hollow were probably the ''last time in her life'' Nagini ever assumed a human form, and it came at a terrible and repulsive cost.

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* Overlaps with FridgeHorror, but the revelation that Nagini was once a human shapechanger may account for how, in ''Deathly Hallows'', she was able to post pose as Bathilda Bagshot so well. Merely stitching a snake up into the shell of a woman's skin wouldn't allow it to control four human limbs at once - at most, it could slip its tail into one limb and its head into another - yet Nagini manages somehow. Possibly (here's the Horror part) Nagini still has some tiny residue of her capacity to transform between snake and human forms, only the latter form is so difficult to achieve that, by the time she becomes Voldemort's pet, she can ''only'' adopt a human form for a matter of minutes ... and only if she has a ''genuine'' human husk to shape herself to fit. Those few minutes she spent luring Harry and Hermione into a trap at Godric's Hollow were probably the ''last time in her life'' Nagini ever assumed a human form, and it came at a terrible and repulsive cost.
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** Another factor is that Lyta's love-starved childhood home life left her in great need of affection and attention, without teaching her how to express love to others. She hadn't been brought up in the sort of loving home Queenie and Tina had, that would show her how to ''give'', but she was practically a bottomless pit of need for love, so would be a ''taker'' for as much as Newt could offer. Newt, on the spectrum, wasn't the best as showing love and affection, so his levels of ''give'' didn't match her need to ''take'', but at the time she was so unused to ''any'' positive interactions that she probably would have been scared off by anything stronger, while he may have had the common inability to deal with too-intense sensory input, so her low level of ''giving'' worked for him at the time. Now that he's grown and gained more social skills, Tina is a much better match for him.
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*** [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary material states outright that Theseus Scamander and others lent their aid to muggle Britain in World War I despite the Minister of Magic at the time, Archer Evermonde, making it illegal for wizards to get involved.]]
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* The little boy in the Paris flat. Young children often get told FairyTales about [[WickedWitch Wicked Witches]]. That little boy had some literally come into his room and murder him!

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* The little boy in the Paris flat. Young children often get told FairyTales {{Fairy Tale}}s about [[WickedWitch Wicked Witches]].{{Wicked Witch}}es. That little boy had some literally come into his room and murder him!
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** When Grindelwald shows the images of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, Jacob is the one who has the strongest reaction of horror. Figures; as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, he can't be too happy to learn that everything he fought and bled for was for ''nothing'', and that there's going to be another war even ''worse'' than the first one.

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** When Grindelwald shows the images of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, Jacob is the one who has the strongest reaction of horror. Figures; as a veteran of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, he can't be too happy to learn that everything he fought and bled for was for ''nothing'', and that there's going to be another war even ''worse'' than the first one. For that matter, in a deleted scene from the first movie, Queenie read his mind and noted out loud that he lost his brother in the war.
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* Person A loves Person B. Person B isn't completely oblivious to Person A's feelings, but does not have the wish or capacity to return those feelings and instead uses them to manipulate Person A. Are we talking about Dumbledore and Grindelwald... or Newt Scamander and Leta Lestrange? Or, for that matter, ''Theseus'' Scamander and Leta Lestrange? This [[NotSoDifferent parallel]] will probably be important and[=/=]or commented on at some point.

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* Person A loves Person B. Person B isn't completely oblivious to Person A's feelings, but does not have the wish or capacity to return those feelings and instead uses them to manipulate Person A. Are we talking about Dumbledore and Grindelwald... or Newt Scamander and Leta Lestrange? Or, for that matter, ''Theseus'' Scamander and Leta Lestrange? This [[NotSoDifferent parallel]] parallel will probably be important and[=/=]or commented on at some point.
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**** The implication and context of that line imply pretty strongly that he was talking about his contribution to the war, so it sounds like wizards use dragons in their wars, and Newt worked with some in a support role, which plays to his strengths.
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*** Unfortunately for the above, it's likely Newt was talking about the ''dragon species'' Ukranian Ironbellies, which are actually brought up in his book.
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* Leta and Newt had a strong relationship as children/students, and in some ways Leta knows him and his work well; for example at the French ministry, she recognizes Pickett and realizes that Newt must not be far behind. But then she immediately Stuns the Matagots just before Newt can tell her that that's probably the worst thing they can do. In the scene right afterward, Tina lures the Zouwu back into its case using exactly the same method Newt did. Tina's better suited to Newt now, even though Leta was very well-suited to him when they were younger, and some aspects of that have hung on.
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* The circus foreman seems to be awfully possessive of Nagini; he keeps her in a caged room, which he has access to, is clearly threatened by her closeness with Credence, and he invades her personal space quite easily (and to her apparent discomfort). Perhaps Nagini's situation in the circus is even worse than it seems.
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* The end of the film, where all the characters arrive at Hogwarts, and Jacob is in the background looking very confused as to why there are here. This makes sense since Hogwarts has an enchantment on it so that Muggles only see it as a scary, dangerous ruin. Alternatively, it may be that they ''are'' allowing Jacob to see it as it really is, and he is utterly stunned. Such a spectacular castle would be world famous among Muggles if they knew about it.

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* The end of the film, where all the characters arrive at Hogwarts, and Jacob is in the background looking very confused as to why there they are here. This makes sense since Hogwarts has an enchantment on it so that Muggles only see it as a scary, dangerous ruin. Alternatively, it may be that they ''are'' allowing Jacob to see it as it really is, and he is utterly stunned. Such a spectacular castle would be world famous among Muggles if they knew about it.
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* Grindelwald using Queenies love for Jacob, he shows no actual scorn towards it, 1) he knows a thing or two about [[HoYay forbidden love]], he probably had a touch of Empathy at that moment that Queenie latched onto being a Legilimens, and 2) he knows that he ''needs'' muggleborn magic users, there aren't enough purebloods left to sustain the magical population, and that muggleborn withces/wizards won't commit to his cause if their husbands/wives are enslaved, he will probably make "exceptions" for those cases in order to produce more magic users.

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* Grindelwald using Queenies love for Jacob, he shows no actual scorn towards it, 1) he knows a thing or two about [[HoYay forbidden love]], he probably had a touch of Empathy at that moment that Queenie latched onto being a Legilimens, and 2) he knows that he ''needs'' muggleborn magic users, there aren't enough purebloods left to sustain the magical population, and that muggleborn withces/wizards witches/wizards won't commit to his cause if their husbands/wives are enslaved, he will probably make "exceptions" for those cases in order to produce more magic users.

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