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11th Jul '16 5:12:08 AM justanid
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* At the end of Fable II this letter is received:

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* After playing ''VideoGame/{{Fable I}}'' for a week, I was unable to figure out the Demon Door riddle from the Hero's Guild ("Your path is dark. Only a light will reveal it, and you are not bright enough."). I thought it had to do with a good (light) alignment, but that didn't work. It wasn't until months later, having not looked at the game since, that it occurred to me out of the blue, [[spoiler:you have to light the lamp you're given upon completing the tutorial, a literal light source.]]
* At the end of Fable II ''Fable II'' this letter is received:



* I also had a very time-delayed one after I first rented ''VideoGame/{{Fable I}}'' for the Xbox - I played it for the week, unable to figure out the Demon Door riddle from the Hero's Guild ("Your path is dark. Only a light will reveal it, and you are not bright enough."). I thought it had to do with a good (light) alignment, but that didn't work. It wasn't until months later, having not looked at the game since, that it occurred to me out of the blue - [[spoiler:you have to light the lamp you're given upon completing the tutorial - a literal light source.]]
* While playing ''VideoGame/{{Fable II}}'', I couldn't help but think the music box's tune sounded familiar. Then, not too long ago, I listened to the theme music for all three fables, and it hit me: The music for the music box is a higher-pitched, plinky version of the original ''[[VideoGame/{{Fable I}} Fable]]'' theme! Genius, Lionhead! Genius! - [[{{Tropers/Kenzberry}} Kenzberry]]

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* I also had a very time-delayed one after I first rented ''VideoGame/{{Fable I}}'' for the Xbox - I played it for the week, unable to figure out the Demon Door riddle from the Hero's Guild ("Your path is dark. Only a light will reveal it, and you are not bright enough."). I thought it had to do with a good (light) alignment, but that didn't work. It wasn't until months later, having not looked at the game since, that it occurred to me out of the blue - [[spoiler:you have to light the lamp you're given upon completing the tutorial - a literal light source.]]
* While playing ''VideoGame/{{Fable II}}'', I couldn't help but think the music box's tune sounded familiar. Then, not too long ago, I listened to the theme music for all three fables, and it hit me: The music for the music box is a higher-pitched, plinky version of the original ''[[VideoGame/{{Fable I}} ''[[VideoGame/{{FableI}} Fable]]'' theme! Genius, Lionhead! Genius! - [[{{Tropers/Kenzberry}} Kenzberry]]Kenzberry]]
* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes seem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from ''Fable II'' who is killed by Lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, which is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to die was because the box stole her hero powers. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about its properties solely to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!
** Or maybe she wasn't a hero in the first place. For example, Logan, the Prince/ss' bigger brother and king in ''Fable III'', does not demonstrate any heroic ability. He does not have "magic" marks like Will users, and he is never shown using weaponry. However, it might be possible that he is adopted, but that wouldn't be able to explain why the King/Queen in ''Fable II'' chose an adopted child over his own biological child. And even then, the Hero in ''Fable III'' requires the aid of special gauntlets to be able to cast magic.



* Why couldn't you turn the evil choices into good ones after [[spoiler:saving Albion from Crawler]]? Because [[spoiler:Reaver has left for a quest, so new industrial projects are on hold at least until he returns, which may well happen in the next century!]] [[{{Tropers/Kamera}} Kamera]]
* Why does [[spoiler:the Crawler]] suffer from such drastic VillainDecay and only attack you [[spoiler:using Walter as a proxy]]? It ''can't'' assault you directly. The only "attack" it has is [[spoiler:corrupting someone with darkness, and it likely couldn't (permanently) infect the Prince/ss because s/he's a Hero. Beyond sending its "children" after you and possessing Walter to attack you, it can't do ''anything''. Note its interactions with you and Walter in the cave system -- it has multiple chances to attack both of you directly, getting right up in Walter's face before he even notices, yet it never strikes out; all it does is send its "children" after the two of you and finally manage to infect Walter with darkness -- and even then only after terrorizing him into near-madness. Why does it do this? It ''can't physically harm you''. It ''has'' to rely on scare tactics, because it can't even infect someone until they're sufficiently terrified and therefore susceptible to its single power. That's also why it took so long for it to attack Albion. It had to wait centuries to amass the "children" necessary to make a direct assault]].
* The much-exploited real estate system and the implications of said exploitation can make a lot of things make sense. Especially the aftermath of Fable II's ending and how Sparrow's line become the royal dynasty. Wasn't it because s/he toppled Lucian and saved the world, leading to the grateful Albionese to crown 'em? Well, to some degree. But in the real world- and especially the Medieval and Renaissance world- you didn't tend to win the hand of the King's Daughter or a Crown just from saving the day; it tended to rely on a mixture of [[IOwnThisTown Property]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Money]] and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority military/combat power to expand your grasp or at least protect your investments]]. A lot of the first post-Roman Kings and nobles tended to be either warlords, landowners who were able to buy up their neighborhood and make it their own, or a combo of both. So if you win the game and buy up a sizable amount- if not all- of the real estate, what have you done? By winning the quest you killed Lord Lucian, who in addition to being an OmnicidalManiac and threat to everybody and everything was the big powerbroker before, and you did it because you are a OneManArmy capable of killing anybody who looks at you funny. And by buying up the property, you've made yourself landlord of more or less all of Albion, making the people living there your tenants and giving you both control over the territory and more money than you'd know what to do with. You saying IOwnThisTown isn't a boast, it's an accurate summary of the property laws and even an understatement. So with the control over combat power, property, and money you established between those two, you basically made yourself the top FeudalOverlord of Albion by the end of the game, giving you more than enough power to protect yourself and enforce your will and enough money and property to build a functioning government and country out of. So, if you're already King/Queen in all but name, why not make it official and give your children something to pass on?
* Logan's monologue about how Albion is his to mold and shape sounds evil at first, [[spoiler: till you realize that his threats are actually facts based on when the Crawler arrives and slaughters all of Albion.]]
* More specifically, that Albion is his and the people will do what he says or they will die. [[spoiler: He's more right than you could possibly think, and NOT in the figurative sense either. It's just that he's not going to be the one to kill them.]]
* Reaver, who's considered a KarmaHoudini, falls under this once one [[VideoGame/FableII remembers/learns]] that [[spoiler:he's also a Hero, and Heroes ''don't'' have to be good, as many players can attest to (and players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be). Heck, he even has the dark circles around his eyes that the Hero can gain by being evil enough.]]


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** [[spoiler:And players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be. The Hero also can gain dark circles around their eyes by being evil enough.]]
* In ''Fable III'' Why couldn't you turn the evil choices into good ones after [[spoiler:saving Albion from Crawler]]? Because [[spoiler:Reaver has left for a quest, so new industrial projects are on hold at least until he returns, which may well happen in the next century!]] [[{{Tropers/Kamera}} Kamera]]
* Why does [[spoiler:the Crawler]] in ''Fable III'' suffer from such drastic VillainDecay and only attack you [[spoiler:using Walter as a proxy]]? It ''can't'' assault you directly. The only "attack" it has is [[spoiler:corrupting someone with darkness, and it likely couldn't (permanently) infect the Prince/ss because s/he's a Hero. Beyond sending its "children" after you and possessing Walter to attack you, it can't do ''anything''. Note its interactions with you and Walter in the cave system -- it has multiple chances to attack both of you directly, getting right up in Walter's face before he even notices, yet it never strikes out; all it does is send its "children" after the two of you and finally manage to infect Walter with darkness -- and even then only after terrorizing him into near-madness. Why does it do this? It ''can't physically harm you''. It ''has'' to rely on scare tactics, because it can't even infect someone until they're sufficiently terrified and therefore susceptible to its single power. That's also why it took so long for it to attack Albion. It had to wait centuries to amass the "children" necessary to make a direct assault]].
* The much-exploited real estate system in ''Fable III'' and the implications of said exploitation can make a lot of things make sense. Especially the aftermath of Fable II's ''Fable II's'' ending and how Sparrow's line become the royal dynasty. Wasn't it because s/he toppled Lucian and saved the world, leading to the grateful Albionese to crown 'em? Well, to some degree. But in the real world- and especially the Medieval and Renaissance world- you didn't tend to win the hand of the King's Daughter or a Crown just from saving the day; it tended to rely on a mixture of [[IOwnThisTown Property]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Money]] and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority military/combat power to expand your grasp or at least protect your investments]]. A lot of the first post-Roman Kings and nobles tended to be either warlords, landowners who were able to buy up their neighborhood and make it their own, or a combo of both. So if you win the game and buy up a sizable amount- if not all- of the real estate, what have you done? By winning the quest you killed Lord Lucian, who in addition to being an OmnicidalManiac and threat to everybody and everything was the big powerbroker before, and you did it because you are a OneManArmy capable of killing anybody who looks at you funny. And by buying up the property, you've made yourself landlord of more or less all of Albion, making the people living there your tenants and giving you both control over the territory and more money than you'd know what to do with. You saying IOwnThisTown isn't a boast, it's an accurate summary of the property laws and even an understatement. So with the control over combat power, property, and money you established between those two, you basically made yourself the top FeudalOverlord of Albion by the end of the game, giving you more than enough power to protect yourself and enforce your will and enough money and property to build a functioning government and country out of. So, if you're already King/Queen in all but name, why not make it official and give your children something to pass on?
* Logan's monologue in ''Fable III'' about how Albion is his to mold and shape sounds evil at first, [[spoiler: till you realize that his threats are actually facts based on when the Crawler arrives and slaughters all of Albion.]]
* ** More specifically, that Albion is his and the people will do what he says or they will die. [[spoiler: He's more right than you could possibly think, and NOT in the figurative sense either. It's just that he's not going to be the one to kill them.]]
* Reaver, who's considered a KarmaHoudini, falls under this once one [[VideoGame/FableII remembers/learns]] that [[spoiler:he's also a Hero, and Heroes ''don't'' have to be good, as many players can attest to (and players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be). Heck, he even has the dark circles around his eyes that the Hero can gain by being evil enough.]]

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* In Fable III, the ending to the Nigel Ferret quest [[spoiler:[[ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules if you reject his $100,000 bribe]]]].

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* In Fable III, ''Fable III'', the ending to the Nigel Ferret quest [[spoiler:[[ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules if you reject his $100,000 bribe]]]].



* Fable III introduces the ability to play as your hero in other heroes worlds. It's strongly hinted that this is possible through some form of alternate reality travel. Also in multiplayer, heroes can have sex with each other and even have children. This brings me to the horror. If all heroes are the sons/daughters of the old hero king/queen, than they share the same DNA. Which means they are, at the very least, half-siblings. Perhaps this should be put under a new category: Fridge Squick.

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* Fable III ''Fable III'' introduces the ability to play as your hero in other heroes worlds. It's strongly hinted that this is possible through some form of alternate reality travel. Also in multiplayer, heroes can have sex with each other and even have children. This brings me to the horror. If all heroes are the sons/daughters of the old hero king/queen, than they share the same DNA. Which means they are, at the very least, half-siblings. Perhaps this should be put under a new category: Fridge Squick.



* The main hero and his old brother from Fable III are the children of the the main hero from Fable II. However considering your actions in Fable II, you could have any number of children. This means that either all of your children died somewhere along the line or you disowned them as none of them are ever mentioned or seen living in the castle.
** [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]: Lucien had your family killed near the end of Fable II. Maybe the canonical Hero of Bowerstone chose either Sacrifice (which might explain how he became popular enough to be crowned King) or Money (which would certainly explain how he could afford to buy up most of Albion). Either way, not picking the Love ending means whatever family you had are gone, which would explain why they aren't around in III.

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* The main hero and his old brother from Fable III ''Fable III'' are the children of the the main hero from Fable II. ''Fable II''. However considering your actions in Fable II, ''Fable II'', you could have any number of children. This means that either all of your children died somewhere along the line or you disowned them as none of them are ever mentioned or seen living in the castle.
** [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]: Lucien had your family killed near the end of Fable II.''Fable II''. Maybe the canonical Hero of Bowerstone chose either Sacrifice (which might explain how he became popular enough to be crowned King) or Money (which would certainly explain how he could afford to buy up most of Albion). Either way, not picking the Love ending means whatever family you had are gone, which would explain why they aren't around in III.
''Fable III''.





First game, Jack of Blades slits Scarlet Robe's throat with the blunt edge of a katana. [[FlatWhat What]].
* I'm not sure it was the katana he was using. After all, he had those spiky villain-gauntlets on. I always thought that was what he cut her throat with.
* This is a game where you can decapitate someone with ''lightning''. Anything's a cutting edge if you try hard enough...

[[AC: FridgeBrilliance]]

* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes eem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from the second game who is killed by lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, whixh is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to dies was because the box stole her powers including her only by hero weakness. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about it's properties soley to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!
** Or maybe she wasn't a hero in the first place. For example, Logan, the Prince(ss)' bigger brother and king in Fable 3, does not demonstrate any heroic ability. He does not have "magic" marks like Will users, and he is never shown using weaponry. However, it might be possible that he is adopted, but that wouldn't be able to explain why the King/Queen in Fable 2 chose an adopted child over his own biological child. And even then, the Hero in Fable 3 requires the aid of special gauntlets to be able to cast magic

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First game, * In in ''Fable I'', Jack of Blades slits Scarlet Robe's throat with the blunt edge of a katana. [[FlatWhat What]].
* ** I'm not sure it was the katana he was using. After all, he had those spiky villain-gauntlets on. I always thought that was what he cut her throat with.
* ** This is a game where you can decapitate someone with ''lightning''. Anything's a cutting edge if you try hard enough...

[[AC: FridgeBrilliance]]

* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes eem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from the second game who is killed by lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, whixh is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to dies was because the box stole her powers including her only by hero weakness. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about it's properties soley to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!
** Or maybe she wasn't a hero in the first place. For example, Logan, the Prince(ss)' bigger brother and king in Fable 3, does not demonstrate any heroic ability. He does not have "magic" marks like Will users, and he is never shown using weaponry. However, it might be possible that he is adopted, but that wouldn't be able to explain why the King/Queen in Fable 2 chose an adopted child over his own biological child. And even then, the Hero in Fable 3 requires the aid of special gauntlets to be able to cast magic
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26th Jun '16 6:55:33 PM Eagal
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** Logan's monologue about how Albion is his to mold and shape sounds evil at first, [[spoiler: till you realize that his threats are actually facts based on when the Crawler arrives and slaughters all of Albion.]]
** More specifically, that Albion is his and the people will do what he says or they will die. [[spoiler: He's more right than you could possibly think, and NOT in the figurative sense either. It's just that he's not going to be the one to kill them.]]
** Reaver, who's considered a KarmaHoudini, falls under this once one [[VideoGame/FableII remembers/learns]] that [[spoiler:he's also a Hero, and Heroes ''don't'' have to be good, as many players can attest to (and players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be). Heck, he even has the dark circles around his eyes that the Hero can gain by being evil enough.]]


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** * Logan's monologue about how Albion is his to mold and shape sounds evil at first, [[spoiler: till you realize that his threats are actually facts based on when the Crawler arrives and slaughters all of Albion.]]
** * More specifically, that Albion is his and the people will do what he says or they will die. [[spoiler: He's more right than you could possibly think, and NOT in the figurative sense either. It's just that he's not going to be the one to kill them.]]
** * Reaver, who's considered a KarmaHoudini, falls under this once one [[VideoGame/FableII remembers/learns]] that [[spoiler:he's also a Hero, and Heroes ''don't'' have to be good, as many players can attest to (and players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be). Heck, he even has the dark circles around his eyes that the Hero can gain by being evil enough.]]

26th Jun '16 6:54:24 PM Eagal
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** Logan's monologue about how Albion is his to mold and shape sounds evil at first, [[spoiler: till you realize that his threats are actually facts based on when the Crawler arrives and slaughters all of Albion.]]
** More specifically, that Albion is his and the people will do what he says or they will die. [[spoiler: He's more right than you could possibly think, and NOT in the figurative sense either. It's just that he's not going to be the one to kill them.]]
** Reaver, who's considered a KarmaHoudini, falls under this once one [[VideoGame/FableII remembers/learns]] that [[spoiler:he's also a Hero, and Heroes ''don't'' have to be good, as many players can attest to (and players can be just as bad, if not ''worse'', than Reaver if they choose to be). Heck, he even has the dark circles around his eyes that the Hero can gain by being evil enough.]]

27th Apr '16 11:13:45 AM Arzion5000
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* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes eem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from the second game who is killed by lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, whixh is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to dies was because the box stole her powers including her only by hero weakness. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about it's properties soley to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!

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* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes eem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from the second game who is killed by lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, whixh is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to dies was because the box stole her powers including her only by hero weakness. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about it's properties soley to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!Lucien!
** Or maybe she wasn't a hero in the first place. For example, Logan, the Prince(ss)' bigger brother and king in Fable 3, does not demonstrate any heroic ability. He does not have "magic" marks like Will users, and he is never shown using weaponry. However, it might be possible that he is adopted, but that wouldn't be able to explain why the King/Queen in Fable 2 chose an adopted child over his own biological child. And even then, the Hero in Fable 3 requires the aid of special gauntlets to be able to cast magic
19th Jan '16 9:53:39 PM SunsetStudios
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* This is a game where you can decapitate someone with ''lightning''. Anything's a cutting edge if you try hard enough...

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* This is a game where you can decapitate someone with ''lightning''. Anything's a cutting edge if you try hard enough...enough...

[[AC: FridgeBrilliance]]

* Okay so throughout the games, the heroes eem to only be killable by other heroes right? Except for Rose, your sister from the second game who is killed by lucien. However this happens after she winds the music box, whixh is later used to drain the 3 heroes powers. The reason she was able to dies was because the box stole her powers including her only by hero weakness. And judging from how Theresa seems to want the spire it's possible she had the merchant lie about it's properties soley to give you a reason to want revenge on Lucien!
25th Aug '15 8:06:01 AM AlbertCole
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** [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]: Lucien had your family killed near the end of Fable II. Maybe the canonical Hero of Bowerstone chose either Sacrifice (which might explain how he became popular enough to be crowned King) or Money (which would certainly explain how he could afford to buy up most of Albion). Either way, not picking the Love ending means whatever family you had are gone, which would explain why they aren't around in III.
7th Nov '14 3:56:31 PM intastiel
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* I'm not sure it was the katana he was using. After all, he had those spiky villain-gauntlets on. I always thought that was what he cut her throat with.

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* I'm not sure it was the katana he was using. After all, he had those spiky villain-gauntlets on. I always thought that was what he cut her throat with.with.
* This is a game where you can decapitate someone with ''lightning''. Anything's a cutting edge if you try hard enough...
22nd Apr '14 5:31:02 AM Turtler
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* The much-exploited real estate system and the implications of said exploitation can make a lot of things make sense. Especially the aftermath of Fable II's ending and how Sparrow's line become the royal dynasty. Wasn't it because s/he toppled Lucian and saved the world, leading to the grateful Albionese to crown 'em? Well, to some degree. But in the real world- and especially the Medieval and Renaissance world- you didn't tend to win the hand of the King's Daughter or a Crown just from saving the day; it tended to rely on a mixture of [[IOwnThisTown Property]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Money]] and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority military/combat power to expand your grasp or at least protect your investments]]. A lot of the first post-Roman Kings and nobles tended to be either warlords, landowners who were able to buy up their neighborhood and make it their own, or a combo of both. So if you win the game and buy up a sizable amount- if not all- of the real estate, what have you done? By winning the quest you killed Lord Lucian, who in addition to being an OmnicidalManiac and threat to everybody and everything was the big powerbroker before, and you did it because you are a OneManArmy capable of killing anybody who looks at you funny. And by buying up the property, you've made yourself landlord of more or less all of Albion, making the people living there your tenants and giving you both control over the territory and more money than you'd know what to do with. You saying IOwnThisTown isn't a boast, it's an accurate summary of the property laws and even an understatement. So with the control over combat power, property, and money you established between those two, you basically made yourself the top FeudalOverlord of Albion by the end of the game, giving you more than enough power to protect yourself and enforce your will and enough money and property to build a functioning government and country out of. So, if you're already King/Queen in all but name, why not make it official and give your children something to pass on?
21st Dec '13 6:09:52 PM darkcloud1111
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*The main hero and his old brother from Fable III are the children of the the main hero from Fable II. However considering your actions in Fable II, you could have any number of children. This means that either all of your children died somewhere along the line or you disowned them as none of them are ever mentioned or seen living in the castle.
27th Nov '13 11:57:14 AM StormKensho
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First game, Jack of Blades slits Scarlet Robe's throat with the blunt edge of a katana. [[FlatWhat What]].

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First game, Jack of Blades slits Scarlet Robe's throat with the blunt edge of a katana. [[FlatWhat What]].What]].
* I'm not sure it was the katana he was using. After all, he had those spiky villain-gauntlets on. I always thought that was what he cut her throat with.
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