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* The song "Absolutely (Story of a Girl)" is [[WaxingLyrical referenced]] several times in the movie (once by Alpha Waymond explaining the risk Jobu Tupaki poses to the entire multiverse, and several more times as alternate versions of the song performed by Nine Days themselves - a country ballad in the Return Home universe, a version about Raccacoonie in that universe). The opening line of the song is, "This is the story of a girl who cried a river and drowned the whole world." This describes Jobu perfectly.
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* The song "Absolutely (Story of a Girl)" is [[WaxingLyrical referenced]] several times in the movie (once by Alpha Waymond explaining the risk Jobu Tupaki poses to the entire multiverse, and several more times as alternate versions of the song performed by Nine Days themselves - — a country ballad in the Return Home universe, a version about Raccacoonie in that universe). The opening line of the song is, "This is the story of a girl who cried a river and drowned the whole world." This describes Jobu perfectly.
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* The name "Jobu Tupaki" is intended to be completely meaningless, as a reflection of the character's nihilism. Thing is, given the Chinese background of the main characters (including Jobu/Joy herself), this is impossible. Unlike English letters, which are nothing more than building blocks for words by themselves, every character of the Chinese language is a word in itself and has its own built-in meaning. The closest one can get to a meaningless word in the Chinese language is WordSalad (characters arranged in a fashion that does not construct a logically valid phrase), which "Jobu Tupaki" does admittedly fit.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence since she doesn't exist there. Thus, Evelyn is safe there when she lands to this universe. Furthermore, this is also where she gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence since she doesn't exist there. Thus, Evelyn is safe there when she lands to this universe. Furthermore, this is also where she gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and most especially the mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence since she doesn't exist there. Furthermore, this is also where Evelyn gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence since she doesn't exist there. Thus, Evelyn is safe there when she lands to this universe. Furthermore, this is also where Evelyn she gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence. Furthermore, this is also where Evelyn gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence.influence since she doesn't exist there. Furthermore, this is also where Evelyn gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives.
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* In the universe where Evelyn is a martial arts movie star and Waymond is a rich CEO, they never got married and had a daughter. Both are also LonelyAtTheTop, wildly successful but emotionally unfulfilled. They have no ''joy'' in their lives. Ironically, this particular universe is where Jobu can't exert her influence. Furthermore, this is also where Evelyn gains the skills (from her action star counterpart) and mindset (by talking to CEO Waymond) needed to thwart Jobu's threat once and for all.
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** There's no real hint in the ending that it's possible (or desirable) to re-seal their minds. This answers both the above horrors; Evelyn or Jobu, if they visit those universes, can use their powers to make things all right. More specifically, they can make ''a version'' of the timeline where things are all right. Per the movie's premise, we can assume there is a version of themselves where they decide to make things all right, and a version of themselves where they don't! It's not possible to actually ''prevent'' any suffering, as there will always be versions where things are not all right (because every possibility necessarily exists and this cannot be changed). In fact, the conclusion of the film is learning to live with this, and finding meaning in whatever way one can.
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** There's no real hint in the ending that it's possible (or desirable) to re-seal their minds. This answers both the above horrors; Evelyn or Jobu, if they visit those universes, can use their powers to make things all right. More specifically, they can make ''a version'' of the timeline where things are all right. Per the movie's premise, we can assume there is a version of themselves where they decide to make things all right, and a version of themselves where they don't! don't. It's not possible to actually ''prevent'' any suffering, as there will always be versions where things are not all right (because every possibility necessarily exists and this cannot be changed). In fact, the conclusion of the film is learning to live with this, and finding meaning in whatever way one can.
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** Despite the gaudiness of Jobu Tubaki's outfits, all of the have some form of eye makeup that resemble tears. Underneath her nihilistic demeanor, she is simply suicidal and sad deep down.
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** Despite the gaudiness of Jobu Tubaki's outfits, all of the them have some form of eye makeup that resemble tears. Underneath Her motives are unknown to all and her nihilistic demeanor, presence is confusing, but deep down she is simply suicidal and sad deep down.depressed.
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** Alternatively, Jobu's outfits also represent the generational gap between Joy and her mother and allow us to see her as Evelyn does: after all, how many kids have parents who criticize their outfits for being strange and (what they see as) innapropriate?
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*** Jobu's PsychopathicManchild RealityWarper tendencies also bring into full view all of the things Evelyn does not understand about her own child, [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything and possibly how many Asian parents in general may see those of a younger generation who embrace a new wave of forward thinking]]: [[TheGenerationGap absurd, unsettling, surprising and even dangerous.]] It's only when Evelyn overcomes these feelings that her relationship with her child becomes stronger.
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** Despite the gaudiness of Jobu Tubaki's outfits, all of the have some form of eye makeup that resemble tears. Underneath her nihilistic demeanor, she is simply suicidal and sad deep down.
** All of Jobu's outfits are brightly colored and vibrant, except for the one she wears when she and Main Evelyn appear before the Everything Bagel. Perhaps its a reflection of Evelyn's feelings towards Joy compared to Joy's feelings towards herself: Evelyn sees her as bright and full of life, while Joy sees herself as empty and devoid of purpose or meaning.
* The Alphaverse sees Jobu Tubaki as an agent of pure chaos motivated by nothing, even though they have the context for why she acts the way she does (Considering ''her'' Evelyn was abusive, it doesn't take rocket science to understand her connection to other Evelyns). They misunderstand Jobu in the same way that Main Evelyn misunderstands Joy, who she thinks is acting contrarian for unknown but seemingly arbitrary reasons, despite the reasons being right in front of her (Evelyn being generally emotionally unsupportive and not super open to her daughter being gay). The Alphaverse fails to understand Jobu despite creating her, and die as a result. Evelyn and Joy eventually reconcile and the universe is saved.
** Despite the gaudiness of Jobu Tubaki's outfits, all of the have some form of eye makeup that resemble tears. Underneath her nihilistic demeanor, she is simply suicidal and sad deep down.
** All of Jobu's outfits are brightly colored and vibrant, except for the one she wears when she and Main Evelyn appear before the Everything Bagel. Perhaps its a reflection of Evelyn's feelings towards Joy compared to Joy's feelings towards herself: Evelyn sees her as bright and full of life, while Joy sees herself as empty and devoid of purpose or meaning.
* The Alphaverse sees Jobu Tubaki as an agent of pure chaos motivated by nothing, even though they have the context for why she acts the way she does (Considering ''her'' Evelyn was abusive, it doesn't take rocket science to understand her connection to other Evelyns). They misunderstand Jobu in the same way that Main Evelyn misunderstands Joy, who she thinks is acting contrarian for unknown but seemingly arbitrary reasons, despite the reasons being right in front of her (Evelyn being generally emotionally unsupportive and not super open to her daughter being gay). The Alphaverse fails to understand Jobu despite creating her, and die as a result. Evelyn and Joy eventually reconcile and the universe is saved.
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** There's no real hint in the ending that it's possible (or desirable) to re-seal their minds. This answers both the above horrors; Evelyn or Jobu, if they visit those universes, can use their powers to make things all right. More specifically, they can make ''a version'' of the timeline where things are all right. It's not possible to actually ''prevent'' any suffering, as there will always be versions where things are not all right (because every possibility necessarily exists and this cannot be changed). In fact, the conclusion of the film is learning to live with this, and finding meaning in whatever way one can.
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** There's no real hint in the ending that it's possible (or desirable) to re-seal their minds. This answers both the above horrors; Evelyn or Jobu, if they visit those universes, can use their powers to make things all right. More specifically, they can make ''a version'' of the timeline where things are all right. Per the movie's premise, we can assume there is a version of themselves where they decide to make things all right, and a version of themselves where they don't! It's not possible to actually ''prevent'' any suffering, as there will always be versions where things are not all right (because every possibility necessarily exists and this cannot be changed). In fact, the conclusion of the film is learning to live with this, and finding meaning in whatever way one can.
