History Fridge / Dollhouse

** Basically, the Dollhouse is the Garden of Eden, the Actives are Adam and Eve before they ate the apples and they are happy in the garden, why wouldn't they be? They eat well, they have friends, they can swim in the pool whenever they want, but they have no free will - they are basically children and they are prisoners. The staff describe the outside world as a place of terror for the actives in which they could not live, Dewitt and Dr. Saunders actually make almost biblical speeches about how this place should not be corrupted and how the outside world will destroy the Actives. So in a way, Dollhouse is a deconstruction of the Garden of Eden, showing what a sick place it would be, and the cost of giving that place up is the world of terror and darkness in which we all live in RealLife. --Miz

--> Steven: They told me this place was the new Eden.
--> Ballard: Adam and Eve weren't prisoners.
--> Steven: Excuse me, the apples were monitored!

* This editor always thought, since the Actives are named for the military code for individual letters, there could only be 26 at a time. Which is fine, since they talk about the "previous Sierra". But they sleep in those five-pod rooms, which made me think that there must be, somewhere, a room where one Active sleeps by himself, since 26 divided by 5 is 5 with 1 left over. Then I realized, Alpha is that one, and he doesn't sleep in the pod at all. There's no "new" Alpha because Alpha is still alive.

*** Probably both, really. There's a tradition in everywhere from sports to airplanes of not recycling designations with bad luck or a notable tragedy associated with them.

* In the very first episode, Echo's imprint is the date of a biker boy who's celebrating his birthday. At the beginning of the episode, she loses a race against him and immediately starts whining: "You cheated! You did something. I don't know how, but you cheated". What a sore loser, right? Wrong. He DID do something. He requested the perfect date, which is (among other things) someone who's good enough to put up a fair fight, but not good enough to win and humiliate him in front of all his friends. In fact, she slows down at the very end in an embarassing fashion, letting him pass her. It's even lampshaded by him: "You sure you didn't let me win?" Well, Echo, at a subconscious level, KNOWS he, via the Dollhouse, did something to her to make her lose.
* In the episode "Omega" it was obvious that the composite Echo would never join Alpha because looking back on the imprints she's had in the episodes before most of them had strong moral compasses and would be disgusted by a psychotic murderer like Alpha.

* ''Dollhouse'' makes it clear that the "imprinting" chairs can be used as [[AgonyBeam highly effective torture devices.]] Bennett mentions that not only can she use the device [[ColdBloodedTorture to create pure, searing agony, but she can control a mind to the point that the victim is entirely unable to pass out.]] The fridge part comes from the realization that in order to be able to do that, Bennett had to ''learn'' how to do that with an imprinting chair - which means that before she started zapping Echo's body, she ''was experimenting on torturing other Dolls'' to get the effect she needed. And since they're Dolls, and the damage leaves no lasting marks on the victim, Bennett could torture a Doll as long as she wanted, and then wipe the memory of it...
* The second episode "The Target" has such a moment. The bad guy intends to hunt Echo for fun in HuntingTheMostDangerousGame fashion. That alone is bad enough, but when you take into account his earlier comment about how if you kill something you have a right to [[IAmAHumanitarian eat it]]... *shudder*
* Also consider that [[spoiler: Ivy does not appear in the finale.]]
* In the episode "Grey Hour", despite her grand speech on not getting famous means not getting dead, it's highly likely the women who "Taffy" mostly made up of is most likely either dead or a doll.
* Epitaph 2 [[spoiler: every secondary or minor character we meet in the entire series is either dead, or became a dumbshow, a different person or a butcher and if they we're themselves the whole time, they'll have to remember one hell of a CrapSackWorld.]]
* Also, everything an imprinted Active feels is completely real, Echo has at least two different imprints who were sexually abused as children. One whose template killed herself due to not coming to terms with it, and another who was pimped out.
* In Epitaph 2, [[spoiler: it's revealed that the baddies shot an innocent victim in front of Topher every day he didn't complete his demon device. At first glance it seems like a very, very small mercy that the victims didn't suffer some more grotesque, slow and painful death. But a simple bullet to the head is how Bennett died. Meaning that he has to relive her death every single day. And Clive being the person who authorized her death and the death of the innocents would be fully aware of this.]]
** [[spoiler:Clive was the one that in fact killed Bennett. Authorization doesn't matter.]]
*** [[spoiler: You're both confusing Clyde with Clive. One is Clyde, the second-in-command of Rossum and an 'upgraded' version of the original Clyde trapped in the Attic. The other is Clive Ambrose the man whose original body Boyd kills. Neither killed Bennett. That was Saunders with a sleeper command. It's likely Boyd gave her that command, but it could have been Clyde. There is no mention of Clyde in Epitaph Two. That's Clive.]]
* The finale, "Epitaph Two: The Return", comes about... [[spoiler:and the currently more-sane Alpha]], who the "Epitaphs" comics later reinforce has [[spoiler: ''only become less-psychotic because of having non-psycho Paul's imprint in his mind acting as a conscience'']], decides to allow [[spoiler: the imprint-wiping, original-personality-returning signal]] to hit him. Remember, [[spoiler: the reason he was in jail and thus available for Doll-ification by Rossum, is that he was a psychotic killer ''before the Dollhouse got hold of him''.]] So now, not only is [[spoiler: Alpha back to his original personality]], he's also [[spoiler: no longer imprisoned or in any way restrained, no one knows he is loose or even still alive, and he's about to stand next to a bunch of innocent bystanders who don't know all those salient details...]]. NiceJobBreakingItHero.

* "Briar Rose" presents a whopper of a problem: How does Topher have the brain scan of a traumatized 11-year-old? It's not like she would calmly walk into the Dollhouse and sit in the chair to have her personality scanned. Answer: The Dollhouse doesn't get their imprint material from the chair. Think about it. Rossum is a massive corporation with known interests in medical technology. Once they decided they were going to start the whole Dollhouse thing, they could have incorporated personality scanning and uploading technology into ''every'' MRI, CAT scan, EEG, etc. that they built from that point on. They could be sending ''thousands'' of unwitting brain scans to the Dollhouse '''every day.''' Later confirmed in a throwaway line in "Epitaph One," this means that no matter who you are, you will likely end up as part of a Dollhouse imprint at some point in your life
* In "Getting Closer", [[spoiler: Topher tells Ivy to run away and save herself]], which at first seems noble… until you realize [[spoiler: she wasn't with the group in Epitaph Two… which means she had to have been wiped in the ensuing chaos after "The Hollow Men".]]
** Which is actually a case of FridgeBrilliance, when you realize that this is probably a large part of [[spoiler: what made Topher go crazy in the Epitaphs]].
* In the flashbacks in "The Target", Topher says that "Dr. Saunders looks like a jigsaw puzzle". After finishing Season 1, this doesn't make sense at first- [[spoiler: you've found out that the woman you knew as Dr. Saunders in episode 2 was Whiskey when Alpha had his composite event. But then you remember that there was an ''old man'' named Dr. Saunders then....]] * shudders* FridgeBrilliance, too, but... what exactly ''happened'' to him?
** Obviously the old man [[Film/SawI was jigsaw]].
* In season one it is noted Adelle likes Echo, who at the time was just an active who has moments of hypercompancy. Then in season two we learn she hated Caroline, Echo's original personailty, which makes the earlier fondness of the hollowed out shell of her former enemy rather creepy.

** Obviously the old man [[Franchise/Saw was jigsaw]].

* ''{{Dollhouse}}'': In episode 1x03 ("Stage Fright"), I was always bugged by the outfit worn by the backup singer who caught on fire at the beginning of the episode. It seemed unflattering, out of style, and completely unlike what the other two backup singers were wearing, as well as what Echo later wore. And wouldn't that particular outfit be really hot up on stage? But then it clicked: the stunt actress had to wear full sleeves and leggings so she could wear the fire-retardant suit underneath it. Duh!
** In the ''Dollhouse'' episode "Briar Rose", there's the FairytaleMotifs (well, motif) of Briar Rose or Sleeping Beauty, call it what you want, but there's also the biblical motif of the Garden of Eden, as discussed in the episode:

*** Basically, the Dollhouse is the Garden of Eden, the Actives are Adam and Eve before they ate the apples and they are happy in the garden, why wouldn't they be? They eat well, they have friends, they can swim in the pool whenever they want, but they have no free will - they are basically children and they are prisoners. The staff describe the outside world as a place of terror for the actives in which they could not live, Dewitt and Dr. Saunders actually make almost biblical speeches about how this place should not be corrupted and how the outside world will destroy the Actives. So in a way, Dollhouse is a deconstruction of the Garden of Eden, showing what a sick place it would be, and the cost of giving that place up is the world of terror and darkness in which we all live in RealLife. --Miz
** This editor always thought, since the Actives are named for the military code for individual letters, there could only be 26 at a time. Which is fine, since they talk about the "previous Sierra". But they sleep in those five-pod rooms, which made me think that there must be, somewhere, a room where one Active sleeps by himself, since 26 divided by 5 is 5 with 1 left over. Then I realized, Alpha is that one, and he doesn't sleep in the pod at all. There's no "new" Alpha because Alpha is still alive.
*** Actually that one is Whiskey [[spoiler: aka Dr. Saunders]].
**** Probably both, really. There's a tradition in everywhere from sports to airplanes of not recycling designations with bad luck or a notable tragedy associated with them.
**** There is also November who, as a long-term sleeper active, spends many nights away from the Dollhouse. Plus actives on Romance engagements in won’t usually be needing the pod.

* ''{{Dollhouse}}'' makes it clear that the "imprinting" chairs can be used as [[AgonyBeam highly effective torture devices.]] Bennett mentions that not only can she use the device [[ColdBloodedTorture to create pure, searing agony, but she can control a mind to the point that the victim is entirely unable to pass out.]] The fridge part comes from the realization that in order to be able to do that, Bennett had to ''learn'' how to do that with an imprinting chair - which means that before she started zapping Echo's body, she ''was experimenting on torturing other Dolls'' to get the effect she needed. And since they're Dolls, and the damage leaves no lasting marks on the victim, Bennett could torture a Doll as long as she wanted, and then wipe the memory of it...
** The second episode "The Target" has such a moment. The bad guy intends to hunt Echo for fun in HuntingTheMostDangerousGame fashion. That alone is bad enough, but when you take into account his earlier comment about how if you kill something you have a right to [[IAmAHumanitarian eat it]]... *shudder*
** Also consider that [[spoiler: Ivy does not appear in the finale.]]
** In the episode "Grey Hour", despite her grand speech on not getting famous means not getting dead, it's highly likely the women who "Taffy" mostly made up of is most likely either dead or a doll.
** Epitaph 2 [[spoiler: every secondary or minor character we meet in the entire series is either dead, or became a dumbshow, a different person or a butcher and if they we're themselves the whole time, they'll have to remember one hell of a CrapSackWorld.]]
** Also, everything an imprinted Active feels is completely real, Echo has at least two different imprints who were sexually abused as children. One whose template killed herself due to not coming to terms with it, and another who was pimped out.
** In Epitaph 2, [[spoiler: it's revealed that the baddies shot an innocent victim in front of Topher every day he didn't complete his demon device. At first glance it seems like a very, very small mercy that the victims didn't suffer some more grotesque, slow and painful death. But a simple bullet to the head is how Bennett died. Meaning that he has to relive her death every single day. And Clive being the person who authorized her death and the death of the innocents would be fully aware of this.]]
*** [[spoiler:Clive was the one that in fact killed Bennett. Authorization doesn't matter.]]
**** [[spoiler: You're both confusing Clyde with Clive. One is Clyde, the second-in-command of Rossum and an 'upgraded' version of the original Clyde trapped in the Attic. The other is Clive Ambrose the man whose original body Boyd kills. Neither killed Bennett. That was Saunders with a sleeper command. It's likely Boyd gave her that command, but it could have been Clyde. There is no mention of Clyde in Epitaph Two. That's Clive.]]

* "Briar Rose" presents a whopper of a problem: How does Topher have the brain scan of a traumatized 11-year-old? It's not like she would calmly walk into the Dollhouse and sit in the chair to have her personality scanned. Answer: The Dollhouse doesn't get their imprint material from the chair. Think about it. Rossum is a massive corporation with known interests in medical technology. Once they decided they were going to start the whole Dollhouse thing, they could have incorporated personality scanning and uploading technology into ''every'' MRI, CAT scan, EEG, etc. that they built from that point on. They could be sending ''thousands'' of unwitting brain scans to the Dollhouse '''every day.'''

** [spoiler:: Not so stupid. They were not sure being underground would completely protect them from the gamma blast that would reset the actuals. Alpha did not want risk turning into his old self while trapped with his friends.]]

* In the very first episode, Echo's imprint is the date of a biker boy who's celebrating his birthday. At the beginning of the episode, she loses a race against him and immediately starts whining: "You cheated! You did something. I don't know how, but you cheated". What a sore loser, right? Wrong. He DID do something. He requested the perfect date, which is (among other things) someone who's good enough to put up a fair fight, but not good enough to win and humiliate him in front of all his friends. In fact, she slows down at the very end in an embarassing fashion, letting him pass her. It's even lampshaded by him: "You sure you didn't let me win?" Well, Echo, at a subconscious level, KNOWS he, via the Dollhouse, did something to her to make her lose.

** [spoiler:: Not so stupid. They were not sure being underground would completely protect them from the gamma blast that would reset the actuals. Alpha did not want risk turning into his old self while trapped with his friends.]]

* In the very first episode, Echo's imprint is the date of a biker boy who's celebrating his birthday. At the beginning of the episode, she loses a race against him and immediately starts whining: "You cheated! You did something. I don't know how, but you cheated". What a sore loser, right? Wrong. He DID do something. He requested the perfect date, which is (among other things) someone who's good enough to put up a fair fight, but not good enough to win and humiliate him in front of all his friends. In fact, she slows down at the very end in an embarassing fashion, letting him pass her. It's even lampshaded by him: "You sure you didn't let me win?"

* In the very first episode, Echo's imprint is the date of a biker boy who's celebrating his birthday. At the beginning of the episode, she loses a race against him and immediately starts whining: "I don't know how, but you cheated". What a sore loser, right? Wrong. He DID do something. He requested the perfect date, which is (among other things) someone who's good enough to put up a fair fight, but not good enough to win and humiliate him in front of all his friends. In fact, she slows down at the very end in an embarassing fashion, letting him pass her. It's even lampshaded by him: "You sure you didn't let me win?"