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* The Doctor gets much grief for becoming TheUnfettered here, but his experiences in "Heaven Sent" meant he never had a proper chance to handle his grief over losing Clara and heal himself as she asked of him. Being isolated and tortured by his enemies only encouraged a SanitySlippage by feeding into his fury and anguish. So he ends up punished for ''being DrivenToMadness and acting irrationally as a result'' with a MindRape. That's...that's really not fair.
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* The Doctor gets much grief for becoming TheUnfettered here, but his experiences in "Heaven Sent" (see below) meant he never had a proper chance to handle his grief over losing Clara and heal himself as she asked of him. Being isolated and tortured by his enemies only encouraged a SanitySlippage by feeding into his fury and anguish. So he ends up punished for ''being DrivenToMadness and acting irrationally as a result'' with a MindRape. That's...that's really not fair.
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* Given the Doctor's reservations about (functional) immortals traveling together -- that they tend to lose perspective and empathy without mortals around -- Clara and Ashildr may not be the best combination of time-travelers...
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** When the Doctor begs to please just be allowed to ''lose,'' he's really/also begging to finally get to move on in his mourning, to accept Clara's death. But while the real Clara would be the first to tell him "Yes, for God's sake, stop!", the Clara in his mind represents his denial stage, and won't let him. Perhaps if he'd had more time alone in the castle without danger and death, he'd have reached acceptance and let her go, and thus not needed the bargaining chip so badly. Rassilon's choice to scare him and torture him backfired in a big way!
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* The Doctor is re-created billions of times, and each time he is fresh from seeing Clara die mere minutes before. He gets to start the mourning process, but it's cut short when he sees the azbantium wall and remembers all his past trips through. Then, he punches the wall a few times, spend a day and a half crawling in agony....and starts all over again with completely fresh grief. He spends almost the entire four and a half billion years in the sharpest, freshest stages of mourning, never getting the chance to move on and heal.
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** Oh, they will. It's hardly the first time they put a death sentence on the Doctor for pissing them off. It won't be the last, and everyone knows it. The only thing that might hold them back is that they ''know'' what the Doctor is capable of, which can be much worse than whatever they had in mind for him.
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** On the other hand, as Clara ''has'' to go back at some point, she's going to be aware that this summer can't last forever...
** On the other hand, as Clara ''has'' to go back at some point, she's going to be aware that this summer can't last forever...
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** On the other hand, as Clara ''has'' to go back at some point, she's going to be aware that this summer can't last forever...
* The Doctor gets much grief for becoming TheUnfettered here, but his experiences in "Heaven Sent" meant he never had a proper chance to handle his grief over losing Clara and heal himself as she asked of him. Being isolated and tortured only encouraged a SanitySlippage by feeding into his anguish. So he ends up punished for ''being DrivenToMadness and acting irrationally as a result'' with a MindRape. That's...that's really not fair.
* The Doctor gets much grief for becoming TheUnfettered here, but his experiences in "Heaven Sent" meant he never had a proper chance to handle his grief over losing Clara and heal himself as she asked of him. Being isolated and tortured only encouraged a SanitySlippage by feeding into his anguish. So he ends up punished for ''being DrivenToMadness and acting irrationally as a result'' with a MindRape. That's...that's really not fair.
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* In hindsight, the fact that the TARDIS is able to travel back to the Doctor's childhood on Gallifrey is our first hint that, at some point between "The Time of the Doctor" and "Listen", the Time Lords figured out how to get out of the Pocket Universe and back into the "real" one.
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** Little wonder that diner was just in the right place for Eleven, Amy, and Rory to end up in - the owner has a vested interest in making sure his timeline went smoothly.
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** Of course The Doctor's plan went off with barely a hitch. He had ''four billion years'' to plot it all out, and at least a couple incarnations that were scarily brilliant at XanatosSpeedChess if there were any contingencies he hadn't worked out.
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* The Doctor has ''always'' been on poor terms with the Gallifrey leadership. Hell, they already executed his Second incarnation and threatened it on at least three more! Seeing the barn of what used to be his home, Rassilon's comment that the locals of that area "don't matter," and that The Doctor was ''barely'' admitted to the rank of Time Lord in the first place, he's obviously from the wrong side of the tracks as far as their society is concerned. Yet, he achieved universe-wide fame by taking everything the aristocracy values and throwing it out an airlock, choosing to protect some backwater blue marble instead of representing what ''they'' wanted him to. And judging from the reaction from not only the desert dwellers but the Army, he's become one hell of a hero to the common folk, which is the ''last'' thing a cloistered oligarchy wants. He doesn't need to be "the Hybrid" to be the universe's biggest threat to their authority.
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* The music that's playing in the diner when the Doctor enters seems like a combination ContinuityNod to "Mummy on the Orient Express" and an anachronism, as it doesn't seem late enough in history for anyone to have cut a jazz cover of "Don't Stop Me Now" yet. But given how the episode ended, it's much more than that: [[spoiler: Clara deliberately put that song, and that ''version'' of the song, on the jukebox to test if the Doctor would recognize it. She needed to test how much of his memories from their mutual adventures remained.]]
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* [[spoiler: Clara's continued presence even after an effective memory wipe is likely due to her having jumped into the Doctor's timeline in the series 7 finale. A much more severe memory wipe, of the likes the Doctor did to Donna, perhaps, would have been more effective. And even then, that would carry even more of a severe consequence as she's essentially integrated into the Doctor's life in every instance because of her actions.]]
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adding back my Fridge Horror because it *is* fridge horror - a thing is happening which apparently is Very Bad, and those people to whom it will happen Have A TARDIS!
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* When Series 9 began, the audience was introduced to the Hybrid concept. What did the Time Lords and Daleks think the Hybrid would be? A mix of Time Lord and Dalek. In the first episode of Series 9, ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E1TheMagiciansApprentice The Magician's Apprentice]]'', the plot mainly took place on Skaro, homeworld of the Daleks. Where does the majority of the Series 9 finale take place? [[BookEnds Gallifrey, homeworld of the Time Lords]], after a series' worth of searching. And neither race knows exactly ''what'' the Hybrid is.
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* The Doctor says he'll try not to break the General's jaw when he punches him. Given how much experience the Doctor has recently accumulated at punching very hard things very hard....
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* Rassilon seems unreasonably set on killing the Doctor, immediately. But if the Doctor's Confession Dial was set up so that his captors could hear his confessions, and if the Doctor was right that they could still hear him after he broke out, then the last thing they heard him say at the end of "Heaven Sent" was, "The Hybrid destined to conquer Gallifrey and stand in its ruins...is me." Especially given the tone of voice he said it in, that ''should'' scare the leaders of Gallifrey!
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The diner Eleven and River compared diaries in wasn\'t Ashildr and Clara\'s Tardis, because the Doctor enters that scene through the door Clara entered the console room through, which he\'d parked his own Tardis behind. He would\'ve detected he was landing within another Tardis at the very least.
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* The Doctor remembers visiting that same diner with Rory and Amy. Either there was a regular diner, which Clara's [=TARDIS=] took on the appearance of on the other side of the hill....or it was the same diner-[=TARDIS=] and Clara and Ashildr/Me were there, behind the Elvis door in the console room, watching as the Doctor and River compared diaries (twice).
** Actually, if you pay attention, the TARDIS was visible in the restroom when Eleven emerged from "getting his special straw that adds more fizz." He'd have likely noticed another console room in there. Not to mention the problems that arise when you plop a TARDIS down in a TARDIS.
*** [=TARDISes=] can shuffle their rooms around internally though, so the control room might not have been behind the Elvis door at that time (and for that very reason too), and problems only seem to get Wibbly Wobbly when you park a TARDIS inside ''itself''.
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* The Doctor remembers visiting that same diner with Rory and Amy. Either there was a regular diner, which Clara's [=TARDIS=] took on the appearance of on the other side of the hill....hill... or it was the same diner-[=TARDIS=] and Clara and Ashildr/Me were there, behind the Elvis door in the console room, watching as the Doctor and River compared diaries (twice).
** Actually, if you pay attention, the TARDIS was visible in the restroom when Eleven emerged from "getting his special straw that adds more fizz." He'd have likely noticed another console room in there. Not to mention the problems that arise when you plop a TARDIS down in a TARDIS.
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*** There have been problems previously with one TARDIS parked inside another - at least twice in the classic series, the Master and the Doctor's TARDIS ended up inside each others; both times, it created a space loop and took a lot of effort on their parts to undo.(twice).
** Actually, if you pay attention, the TARDIS was visible in the restroom when Eleven emerged from "getting his special straw that adds more fizz." He'd have likely noticed another console room in there. Not to mention the problems that arise when you plop a TARDIS down in a TARDIS.
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*** There have been problems previously with one TARDIS parked inside another - at least twice in the classic series, the Master and the Doctor's TARDIS ended up inside each others; both times, it created a space loop and took a lot of effort on their parts to undo.
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* Clara, almost immediately upon extraction begins to realize that something is wrong because voices sound strange to her. The reason? She can no longer hear her heartbeat, even if she'd always blocked it out before. What was it that drove the Master insane? Not being able to ignore the sound of a Gallifreyan heartbeat any longer.
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* The Doctor remembers visiting that same diner with Rory and Amy. Either there was a regular diner, which Clara's [=TARDIS=] took on the appearance of on the other side of the hill....or it was the same diner-[=TARDIS=] and Clara and Ashildr/Me were there, behind the Elvis door in the console room, watching as the Doctor and River compared diaries (twice).
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* During Peter Davison's Creator/PeterDavison's run, the Doctor was declared the President of Gallifrey. Peter Davison went on to have a daughter named Georgia, who David Tennant Creator/DavidTennant married -- so she could be considered the President's daughter and in a way the Doctor stole her....
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* Clara's heart isn't beating and she isn't breathing except to talk. What's happened to her body's other systems? Can she, for example, digest the lemonade she drank with the Doctor, or will she have to [[Recap/TorchwoodS2E7DeadManWalking stand on her head and let it pour out again]]?
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* Who's to say the exiled Rassilon and Time Lord High Council won't attempt to take revenge on the Doctor in the future? Who's to say that exiling them isn't something the Doctor did, because he knew he'd end up ''doing something much worse'' to them if he didn't get them out of his sight as quickly as possible?
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* Who's to say the exiled Rassilon and Time Lord High Council won't attempt to take revenge on the Doctor in the future? future?
* Who's to say that exiling them isn't something the Doctor did, because he knew he'd end up ''doing something much worse'' to them if he didn't get them out of his sight as quickly as possible?
* Who's to say that exiling them isn't something the Doctor did, because he knew he'd end up ''doing something much worse'' to them if he didn't get them out of his sight as quickly as possible?
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* The Doctor wishes the General good luck just before he shoots the man. He/she regenerates into a woman, and is relieved. Considering the War Doctor would've worked closely with the General, and the Time War probably cost the General Gallifrey's military leader a regeneration or two, Twelve probably ''knew'' that the General preferred being female, so was wishing him luck that his gender would change.
