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* When Mr. Newberry is introduced, Gavin compares him to [[Literature/ToKillAMockingbird Boo Radley]] - Mr. Newberry is still using ObfuscatingStupidity and pretends not to understand, but since the first sign he's not what he seems is that he carries a copy of ''Literature/SlaughterhouseFive'' in his back pocket, he presumably did get the reference; Furthermore, a different character in ''Literature/ToKillAMockingbird'', Dolphus Raymond, frequently uses the related trope of PlayingDrunk, so that may have even been an influence on Newberry using ObfuscatingStupidity in the first place. And finally, Mr. Newberry saves the protagonists at the last minute, much like Boo does in ''To Kill A Mockingbird''.
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well. Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well. Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] all may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well. Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].]]
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well. Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].]]
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything. That said, I wouldn't consider it a KarmaHoudini for the parents, since this will be the second tragedy that the town has faced with even greater loss of life.
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything. That said, I wouldn't consider it a KarmaHoudini for the parents, since this will be the second tragedy that the town has faced with even greater loss of life.life.
* Gavin and UV are introduced as hardcore stoners, in that UV is nearly high out of his mind when we first see him. He exhibits the same mannerisms when he comes to pick up Steve and Rachel during the third act. Then it hit me: UV is probably stoned out of his mind when he's attempting the rescue.
* Gavin and UV are introduced as hardcore stoners, in that UV is nearly high out of his mind when we first see him. He exhibits the same mannerisms when he comes to pick up Steve and Rachel during the third act. Then it hit me: UV is probably stoned out of his mind when he's attempting the rescue.
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* The intention of the Blue Ribbon programming was to turn formerly troubled teenagers into model, upstanding students and citizens. Yet the Blue Ribbons frequently engage in overt {{jerkass}} behavior and even physical violence towards those not in their clique (see: the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown they give to Steve in the cafeteria), which would get them suspended from a normal school, if not expelled or even imprisoned. One of the parents even complains about how her son became a snobbish asshole after he entered the program.\\
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But consider who created the Blue Ribbons. Dr. Caldicott is an utter asshole himself, brazenly lying about [[spoiler:what happened to his daughter]], and fancying himself to be god-like thanks to his technology. Given Caldicott's own attitudes, he probably considers the above to be perfectly acceptable behavior. And as for what happens when their programming glitches out and they go on murderous rampages, well, that's just a bug that's being fixed (just a few more lobotomized teens to go).
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But consider who created the Blue Ribbons. Dr. Caldicott is an utter asshole himself, brazenly lying about [[spoiler:what happened to his daughter]], and fancying himself to be god-like thanks to his technology. Given Caldicott's own attitudes, he probably considers the above to be perfectly acceptable behavior. And as for what happens when their programming glitches out and they go on murderous rampages, well, that's just a bug that's being fixed (just a few more lobotomized teens to go).
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* The intention of the Blue Ribbon programming was to turn formerly troubled teenagers into model, upstanding students and citizens. Yet the Blue Ribbons frequently engage in overt {{jerkass}} behavior and even physical violence towards those not in their clique (see: the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown they give to Steve in the cafeteria), which would get them suspended from a normal school, if not expelled or even imprisoned. One of the parents even complains about how her son became a snobbish asshole after he entered the program.\\
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But then, consider who created the Blue Ribbons. Ribbons: Dr. Caldicott is an utter asshole himself, brazenly lying about [[spoiler:what what happened to his daughter]], daughter, and fancying himself to be god-like thanks to his technology. Given Caldicott's own attitudes, he probably considers the above to be perfectly acceptable behavior. And as for what happens when their programming glitches out and they go on murderous rampages, well, that's just a bug that's being fixed (just a few more lobotomized teens to go).
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well. [[spoiler:Mr.Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].]]
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* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]
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* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's wait! Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Rachel. Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]brainwashed?
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*** Although it should be noted that the person she knocked out was [[spoiler: trying to strangle Steve to death while they were escaping. She was acting in defense of a third person and was well within her right to act the way she did.]]
** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion) and fight or flight (both in her case). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion) and fight or flight (both in her case). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything. That said, I wouldn't consider it a KarmaHoudini for the parents parents, since this will be the second tragredy tragedy that the town has faced with even greater loss of life.
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** This only gets worse if you understand the bit of TechnoBabble that is as close as they get to giving a technical explanation of what's going on--the ones it's closest to working 'right' in are the ''institutionalized'' ones.
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** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
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** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion).suggestion) and fight or flight (both in her case). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything.
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything. That said, I wouldn't consider it a KarmaHoudini for the parents since this will be the second tragredy that the town has faced with even greater loss of life.
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*** Although it should be noted that the person she knocked out was [[spoiler: trying to strangle Steve to death while they were escaping. She was acting in defense of a third person and was well within her right to act the way she did.]]
** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
* [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What happened to theparents?]]parents?]]
** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything.
** [[spoiler: Rachel's brainwashing may have lasted a minute or two longer than Steve's, but when Steve catches up with her on the Ferry, she seems to be herself. Her early behavior can be attributed not to the brainwashing imagery, but whatever drug was in her system (which is probably used to make the victim for open to suggestion). She might have nightmares and little behavioral ticks later in life, but nothing like the behavior the other kids exhibited.]]
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** Given the number of deaths that take place, there would likely be a criminal investigation. However, the parents may end up ultimately mourning their children and not being charged with anything.
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* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]
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* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]brainwashed?]]
**It took a while for her to wake up and when she did, she gave a hyper-violent response to her would-be rapist, hitting him hard enough to crack his skull open. She is likely at least partially programmed.
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**It took a while for her to wake up and when she did, she gave a hyper-violent response to her would-be rapist, hitting him hard enough to crack his skull open. She is likely at least partially programmed.
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well.
well. [[spoiler:Mr. Newburry just [[KillEmAll killing them all]] may have been [[MercyKill for their own good]].]]
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life... it's life. It's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good.
good. Especially given that the programming goes haywire when the Blue Ribbons are sexually aroused... and how many attractive people in attractive clothes are they gonna see once they get out into the world? The fact that, so far, the only solution to these problems that they've come up with is ''institutionalization'' doesn't bode well.
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* There is no way that the brainwashing could have any good effects later in life... it's anyone with a psychological or psychiatric degree's guess what the effects of the brainwashing herald later, but it cannot be good.
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* The intention of the Blue Ribbon programming was to turn formerly troubled teenagers into model, upstanding students and citizens. Yet the Blue Ribbons frequently engage in overt {{jerkass}} behavior and even physical violence towards those not in their clique (see: the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown they give to Steve in the cafeteria), which would get them suspended from a normal school, if not expelled or even imprisoned. One of the parents even complains about how her son became a snobbish asshole after he entered the program.\\
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But consider who created the Blue Ribbons. Dr. Caldicott is an utter asshole himself, brazenly lying about [[spoiler:what happened to his daughter]], and fancying himself to be god-like thanks to his technology. Given Caldicott's own attitudes, he probably considers the above to be perfectly acceptable behavior. And as for what happens when their programming glitches out and they go on murderous rampages, well, that's just a bug that's being fixed (just a few more lobotomized teens to go).
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* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]
* The intention of the Blue Ribbon programming was to turn formerly troubled teenagers into model, upstanding students and citizens. Yet the Blue Ribbons frequently engage in overt {{jerkass}} behavior and even physical violence towards those not in their clique (see: the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown they give to Steve in the cafeteria), which would get them suspended from a normal school, if not expelled or even imprisoned. One of the parents even complains about how her son became a snobbish asshole after he entered the program.\\
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But consider who created the Blue Ribbons. Dr. Caldicott is an utter asshole himself, brazenly lying about [[spoiler:what happened to his daughter]], and fancying himself to be god-like thanks to his technology. Given Caldicott's own attitudes, he probably considers the above to be perfectly acceptable behavior. And as for what happens when their programming glitches out and they go on murderous rampages, well, that's just a bug that's being fixed (just a few more lobotomized teens to go).
!!FridgeLogic
* The climax shows Steve watching [[spoiler:Rachel getting strapped in for her brainwashing as he gets dragged through the lab to be brainwashed himself. He manages to escape just seconds before he gets the chip implanted into his head, and then goes on to rescue Rachel.]] But wait. [[spoiler:Rachel's brainwashing began a few minutes before Steve's, Steve managed to escape just seconds before he reached the point of no return, and he needed several minutes to find and save Rachel.]] Shouldn't it have been [[spoiler:much too late for him to save her from getting brainwashed?]]
