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** There are way too many differences to the worlds in the franchises themselves for similar architecture to connect them. To list a few things [[spoiler: time and space in Dark Souls is extremely warped, while in Bloodborne the changes to time and space are an artifact of the dreams the Great Ones made, a way to show that what we're in isn't normal.]] [spoiler: We actually see the future at the end of Dark Souls III and even further in the Ronged City. Our fight with the Soul of Cinder is shown to be ina future when the shrine become abandoned, further reinforced in DLC when it's shown that fight is in the Dreg Heap, where you can find pieces of Lothric previously explored had crumbled into this hole at the end of the world. The end of the DLC then shows us even further in the future where the world seems to have become a desert of ashes]] [[spoiler: Lastly the new face of humanity is that of the hollows. This is pretty much inevitable no matter the ending chosen]]

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** There are way too many differences to the worlds in the franchises themselves for similar architecture to connect them. To list a few things [[spoiler: time :[[spoiler: Time and space in Dark Souls is extremely warped, while in Bloodborne the changes to time and space are an artifact of the dreams the Great Ones made, a way to show that what we're in isn't normal.]] [spoiler: normal. We actually see the future at the end of Dark Souls III and even further in the Ronged City. Our fight with the Soul of Cinder is shown to be ina in a future when the shrine become abandoned, further reinforced in DLC when it's shown that fight is in the Dreg Heap, where you can find pieces of Lothric previously explored had crumbled into this hole at the end of the world. The end of the DLC then shows us even further in the future where the world seems to have become a desert of ashes]] [[spoiler: ashes. Lastly the new face of humanity is that of the hollows. This is pretty much inevitable no matter the ending chosen]]
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* When you encounter Shira at the end of ''The Ringed City'', part of her speech includes mention that she's the daughter of a duke, and the centerpiece of her crown is a pearl from a Man Eater Shell from ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsI''. If one will recall, those were only encountered in one of two places: at the bottom of Ash Lake, and in the Crystal Cave after ''the Duke's Archives''. All this seems to point to Shira being the daughter of Seath, but if that's the case, then why doesn't she have any draconic features like Priscilla or Yorshka? Then it hits you: his name is Seath ''the Scaleless''. He was a mutant even among his own kind, so any offspring that he produces would also lack major features of his race.
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** Adding to this The Ringed City DLC gives a reason why Aldia and Vendrik could never find a answer to the Curse, They never knew about the Ringed City and the Pygmy's and the fact that Linking the Fire Was not the first Sin, it could be considered the Second where as the first SIN was Gwyn Creating the seal of Fire to seal off the Abyss from the Pygmy's

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** Adding to this The [[spoiler:The Ringed City DLC gives a reason why Aldia and Vendrik could never find a answer to the Curse, They never knew about the Ringed City and the Pygmy's and the fact that Linking the Fire Was not the first Sin, it could be considered the Second where as the first SIN was Gwyn Creating the seal of Fire to seal off the Abyss from the Pygmy'sPygmy's]]
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** Adding to this The Ringed City DLC gives a reason why Aldia and Vendrik could never find a answer to the Curse, They never knew about the Ringed City and the Pygmy's and the fact that Linking the Fire Was not the first Sin, it could be considered the Second where as the first SIN was Gwyn Creating the seal of Fire to seal off the Abyss from the Pygmy's
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** For some extra fridge horror, consider the following: the exact same sludge is present in Aldrich's boss chamber. Given how it has a similar appearance to the lower half of his body, you may not just be fighting in his faeces; you may be fighting atop ''Aldrich himself''.
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** And much like the Soul of Cinder, Slave Knight Gael's fighting style is eerily reminiscent of two distinct [[GameBreaker classics]] of Dark Souls, namely his endless greatsword-swinging, combined with immunity to being knocked out of his combos, and massive health bar, classics of the Giantdad playstyle, and his usage of an automatic crossbow while slowly strafing, AKA the infamous Havelyn.
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** This one may be jossed: We see actual angels in the Ringed City DLC. It still has dark implications, considering that they A) [[LightIsNotGood shoot at you as soon as they see you]] and B) have hideous-looking [[CanTLiveWithoutYou Angel Pupas]] to power them. HumanoidAbominations, anyone?
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* Yorshka's Spear, a weapon found in irithyll, is well known for having [[JokeItem abyssmal stats]]. But, considering the nature of Yorshka herself, (she's basically a frail, innocent child, who has been severely neglected) her "weapon" fits her better than one might think; much like her, it was never expected to be in a battle.
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First edit on this site so I probably made some errors either in writing style or formatting. It's probably from me staying up so late though that seeing such a silly fan theory kinda bugged me.

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** There are way too many differences to the worlds in the franchises themselves for similar architecture to connect them. To list a few things [[spoiler: time and space in Dark Souls is extremely warped, while in Bloodborne the changes to time and space are an artifact of the dreams the Great Ones made, a way to show that what we're in isn't normal.]] [spoiler: We actually see the future at the end of Dark Souls III and even further in the Ronged City. Our fight with the Soul of Cinder is shown to be ina future when the shrine become abandoned, further reinforced in DLC when it's shown that fight is in the Dreg Heap, where you can find pieces of Lothric previously explored had crumbled into this hole at the end of the world. The end of the DLC then shows us even further in the future where the world seems to have become a desert of ashes]] [[spoiler: Lastly the new face of humanity is that of the hollows. This is pretty much inevitable no matter the ending chosen]]
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*The Final Boss for Dark Souls I was Gwyn, Lord of Cinder. When it comes to the DLC, the final boss is Manus, Father of the Abyss. Now at Dark Souls III we have Soul of Cinder, embodiment of all Lords, including Gwyn...and at the DLC? Slave Knight Gael, embodiment of the Dark Soul and all men...including Manus.
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* There's another CallBack to the very intro of ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' with ''The Ringed City''. Said intro mentions the Furtive Pygmy was "[[ExactWords so easily forgotten]]" - we were told ''from the very beginning'' Gwyn UnPersoned the Pygmy - had ''that'' bit of exposition been a bit clearer, it's likely the Chosen Undead would have made sure to go with Kaathe's plan and saved everyone else the cost of keeping the Age of Fire alive.

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* There's another CallBack to the very intro of ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' with ''The Ringed City''. Said intro mentions the Furtive Pygmy was "[[ExactWords so easily forgotten]]" - we were told ''from the very beginning'' Gwyn UnPersoned {{Unperson}}ed the Pygmy - had ''that'' bit of exposition been a bit clearer, it's likely the Chosen Undead would have made sure to go with Kaathe's plan and saved everyone else the cost of keeping the Age of Fire alive.
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* There's another CallBack to the very intro of ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' with ''The Ringed City''. Said intro mentions the Furtive Pygmy was "[[ExactWords so easily forgotten]]" - we were told ''from the very beginning'' Gwyn UnPersoned the Pygmy - had ''that'' bit of exposition been a bit clearer, it's likely the Chosen Undead would have made sure to go with Kaathe's plan and saved everyone else the cost of keeping the Age of Fire alive.
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* Why is the Cathedral of The Deep full of weird brown sludge (apart from slowing your movement to a crawl and making you easy pickings for the giants?) Seems like an odd place for swampy water, right? Look against the walls in these sludge pits and you'll see lots and lots of body parts, including the remains of a maiden. There's a distinct possibility that this sludge is actually what left of the people sacrificed to Aldrich. [[NauseaFuel That's right, you're wading knee high in Aldrich's faeces.]] Hope that Saint's Bident is worth it!

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* Why is the Cathedral of The Deep full of weird brown sludge (apart from slowing your movement to a crawl and making you easy pickings for the giants?) Seems like an odd place for swampy water, right? Look against the walls in these sludge pits and you'll see lots and lots of body parts, including the remains of a maiden. There's a distinct possibility that this sludge is actually what left of the people sacrificed to Aldrich. [[NauseaFuel That's right, you're wading knee high in Aldrich's faeces.]] Hope that Saint's Bident is worth it!it!
* Here's something to contemplate in light of certain revelations from ''The Ringed City''; [[spoiler: Gael sought the blood of the Pygmy Lords because they would possess the power of the Dark Soul in a form that could be used as pigment for the new Painted World the Painter Girl wants to make. Given that as fact, exactly ''how did the Painted Worlds of Ariamis and Ariandel get made?'' We all know that Gwyn's attitudes towards bearers of the Dark Soul were... [[{{Understatement}} a tad bigoted]], so did he allow Ariamis to slaughter a ton of humans (or their Pygmy Lords) to get the pigment for a ''wall sized portrait?'' And furthermore, how did Ariandel get his pigment? Was there still some left over from Ariamis' painting, or did he go on an Undead hunting spree himself?]]
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** Take a close look at the flame attacks [[spoiler: Gael uses in his second phase]]. Not only are they dark red, reminiscent of [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}} Lady Maria's]] BloodMagic]], but they don't have regular flame textures: [[spoiler: there are human skulls and faces hidden in the flames!]]
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*** also the look of Aldrich [[spoiler: remember the blob students in the college?]]
** maybe [[spoiler: The Moon Presence]] is the Dark souls 3 [[spoiler: Player character, after causing the age of Dark, it worked like a roundabout way you do so in BB and he/she became either the Moon Presence or Ebrietas]]

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*** also the look The Cosmos, of Aldrich course! [[spoiler: remember Only Kos came out of the blob students in sea, but that doesn't mean she was born there. It's implied the college?]]
Great Ones actually originate from space.]]
** maybe Maybe [[spoiler: The Moon Presence]] is the Dark souls 3 [[spoiler: Player character, after causing the age of Dark, it worked like a roundabout way you do so in BB and he/she became either the Moon Presence or Ebrietas]]
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** On the subject of [[spoiler: Gael]], he's the size of a Lord when you fight him, even though he was just a regular Undead the last time you met. Think about it, though, [[spoiler: he was devouring the blood of the Pygmy Lords. What was it that happened to Aldrich again? He "bloated like a drowned pig" from eating so many people. Seems like eating a lot of souls causes you to grow in size, and Gael did just devour a bunch of fragments of the original Dark Soul.]]
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* When you think about it, ''The Ringed City'''s final boss makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:Gael is an undead, a Determinator to the very end - in other words, ''[[PlayerCharacter you]]''. While the Chosen Undead follow Gwyn's footsteps in linking the First Flame, Gael went for the opposite way - the Dark Soul of Man. Plus, giants, dragons, and ''gods'' have fallen to the undead, your {{Player Character}}s being firsthand examples. Gael is one of you, but he's the strongest of them all - and he's gone mad with power. In the second phase and onward, the Dark Soul consumes him, much like how the Flame does to the undead who link it. First, he was the ultimate undead - and afterwards, he's the very embodiment of the Dark Soul.]]

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* When you think about it, ''The Ringed City'''s final boss makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:Gael is an undead, a Determinator {{Determinator}} to the very end - in other words, ''[[PlayerCharacter you]]''. While the Chosen Undead follow Gwyn's footsteps in linking the First Flame, Gael went for the opposite way - the Dark Soul of Man. Plus, giants, dragons, and ''gods'' have fallen to the undead, your {{Player Character}}s being firsthand examples. Gael is one of you, but he's the strongest of them all - and he's gone mad with power. In the second phase and onward, the Dark Soul consumes him, much like how the Flame does to the undead who link it. First, he was the ultimate undead - and afterwards, he's the very embodiment of the Dark Soul.]]
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** This adds a whole new level to Aldrich's behaviour in game. While we assumed that Aldrich just went insane like Yorhm and the Abyss Watchers did, many things will tell us that he has quite a bit of intelligence. He uses sorceries and miracles throughout the fight, is able to manipulate Gwyndolin's body, and if the timeline about when he devoured him is true, came up with a whole new miracle after he was revived. While he never seemed sane to begin with, he can still think clearly. Aldrich, like Lothric, was purposely trying to avoid linking the fire, because he wants the age of the dark to begin.

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** This adds a whole new level to Aldrich's behaviour in game. While we assumed that Aldrich just went insane like Yorhm Yhorm and the Abyss Watchers did, many things will tell us that he has quite a bit of intelligence. He uses sorceries and miracles throughout the fight, is able to manipulate Gwyndolin's body, and if the timeline about when he devoured him is true, came up with a whole new miracle after he was revived. While he never seemed sane to begin with, he can still think clearly. Aldrich, like Lothric, was purposely trying to avoid linking the fire, because he wants the age of the dark to begin.



* With the release of Ashes of Ariandel, and the revelation that Sulyvahn is from the painting, it makes a few disparate details about Irithyll and the Church of the Deep make a bit more sense. It explains why there are Corvians on the Road of Sacrifices and in Irithyll itself, why there is one Pontiff Knight stationed directly outside Sulyvahn's Cathedral that uses a scythe, and possibly why Sulyvahn himself decided to overthrow the bloodline of Gwyn (keeping in mind that the original Painted World of Ariamis was essentially a prison for Priscilla and other such people who didn't have a place in the world of the gods).
* Of course Creighton canonically bested Pate in ''[[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII Dark Souls II]]''. [[spoiler: The former is a serial killer who's been physically killing people by his hands, while the latter was never shown to explicitly seen killing people with his. In addition, Creighton had better gear. And even then, the Bearer of the Curse was being constantly tricked by Pate's traps, causing the PC to side with Creighton should he interfere.]] How he's still around even after the events between the two games may arise some questions however.

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* With the release of Ashes ''Ashes of Ariandel, Ariandel'', and the revelation that Sulyvahn is from the painting, it makes a few disparate details about Irithyll and the Church of the Deep make a bit more sense. It explains why there are Corvians on the Road of Sacrifices and in Irithyll itself, why there is one Pontiff Knight stationed directly outside Sulyvahn's Cathedral that uses a scythe, and possibly why Sulyvahn himself decided to overthrow the bloodline of Gwyn (keeping in mind that the original Painted World of Ariamis was essentially a prison for Priscilla and other such people who didn't have a place in the world of the gods).
* Of course Creighton canonically bested Pate in ''[[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII Dark Souls II]]''.''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII''. [[spoiler: The former is a serial killer who's been physically killing people by his hands, while the latter was never shown to explicitly seen killing people with his. In addition, Creighton had better gear. And even then, the Bearer of the Curse was being constantly tricked by Pate's traps, causing the PC to side with Creighton should he interfere.]] How he's still around even after the events between the two games may arise some questions however.



* The curved sword moveset of [[spoiler: the soul of cinder]] utilizes the backflip of the dark wood grain ring, basically confirming that phase to be the chosen undead of dark souls 1. But there's more than that; it uses a combustion-like pyromancy, similar to the one that [[GoodBadBugs was known for trivializing Gwyn's fight due to a bug]]. Assuming they did so, the chosen undead wouldn't have had any reason to attune different spells before linking the fire, so of course they still have the spell that got them to that point equipped.
* When you think about it, ''The Ringed City'''s final boss makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:Gael is an undead, a Determinator to the very end - in other words, ''[[PlayerCharacter you]]''. While the Chosen Undead follow Gwyn's footsteps in linking the First Flame, Gael went for the opposite way - the Dark Soul of Man. Plus, giants, dragons, and ''gods'' have fallen to the undead, your [[PlayerCharacters Player Characters]] being firsthand examples. Gael is one of you, but he's the strongest of them all - and he's gone mad with power. In the second phase and onward, the Dark Soul consumes him, much like how the Flame does to the undead who link it. First, he was the ultimate undead - and afterwards, he's the very embodiment of the Dark Soul.]]

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* The curved sword moveset of [[spoiler: the soul of cinder]] utilizes the backflip of the dark wood grain ring, basically confirming that phase to be the chosen undead of dark souls 1. But there's more than that; it uses a combustion-like pyromancy, similar to the one that [[GoodBadBugs was known for trivializing Gwyn's fight due to a bug]]. Assuming they did so, the chosen undead wouldn't have had any reason to attune different spells before linking the fire, so of course they still have the spell that got them to that point equipped.
* When you think about it, ''The Ringed City'''s final boss makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:Gael is an undead, a Determinator to the very end - in other words, ''[[PlayerCharacter you]]''. While the Chosen Undead follow Gwyn's footsteps in linking the First Flame, Gael went for the opposite way - the Dark Soul of Man. Plus, giants, dragons, and ''gods'' have fallen to the undead, your [[PlayerCharacters Player Characters]] {{Player Character}}s being firsthand examples. Gael is one of you, but he's the strongest of them all - and he's gone mad with power. In the second phase and onward, the Dark Soul consumes him, much like how the Flame does to the undead who link it. First, he was the ultimate undead - and afterwards, he's the very embodiment of the Dark Soul.]]
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* When you think about it, ''The Ringed City'''s final boss makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:Gael is an undead, a Determinator to the very end - in other words, ''[[PlayerCharacter you]]''. While the Chosen Undead follow Gwyn's footsteps in linking the First Flame, Gael went for the opposite way - the Dark Soul of Man. Plus, giants, dragons, and ''gods'' have fallen to the undead, your [[PlayerCharacters Player Characters]] being firsthand examples. Gael is one of you, but he's the strongest of them all - and he's gone mad with power. In the second phase and onward, the Dark Soul consumes him, much like how the Flame does to the undead who link it. First, he was the ultimate undead - and afterwards, he's the very embodiment of the Dark Soul.]]
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* The curved sword moveset of [[spoiler: the soul of cinder]] utilizes the backflip of the dark wood grain ring, basically confirming that phase to be the chosen undead of dark souls 1. But there's more than that; it uses a combustion-like pyromancy, similar to the one that [[GoodBadBugs was known for trivializing Gwyn's fight due to a bug]]. Assuming they did so, the chosen undead wouldn't have had any reason to attune different spells before linking the fire, so of course they still have the spell that got them to that point equipped.



*** The Cleric set mentions that they wear covers on their backs as to no become "seedbeds for spreading darkness". Maybe the rocks are budget versions of that?

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** A possible huge reference to the second game is a little tidbit of information regarding Prince Lothric, who was said to have been counseled by "a scholar who doubted the Linking of the Fire". While some fans believe the culprit to be Pontiff Sulyvahn, others point out that Sulyvahn was ''never'' described as a scholar [[spoiler: but Lord Aldia from the second game ''is'', and he is well known as ''the'' scholar who doubted the efficacy of Linking the Fire, which led to King Vendrick trying to find a solution for breaking the cycle in the first place. This is even more telling in the ''Scholar of the First Sin'' UpdatedRerelease, where he finally appears as an NPC and boss to tie up the loose ends of that particular game.]]



** This adds a whole new level to Aldrich's behaviour in game. While we assumed that Aldrich just went insane like Yorhm and the Abyss Watchers did, many things will tell us that he has quite a bit of intelligence. He uses sorceries and miracles throughout the fight, is able to manipulate Gwendolyn's body, and if the timeline about when he devoured him is true, came up with a whole new miracle after he was revived. While he never seemed sane to begin with, he can still think clearly. Aldrich, like Lothric, was purposely trying to avoid linking the fire, because he wants the age of the dark to begin.

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** This adds a whole new level to Aldrich's behaviour in game. While we assumed that Aldrich just went insane like Yorhm and the Abyss Watchers did, many things will tell us that he has quite a bit of intelligence. He uses sorceries and miracles throughout the fight, is able to manipulate Gwendolyn's Gwyndolin's body, and if the timeline about when he devoured him is true, came up with a whole new miracle after he was revived. While he never seemed sane to begin with, he can still think clearly. Aldrich, like Lothric, was purposely trying to avoid linking the fire, because he wants the age of the dark to begin.begin.
* A bit of fridge horror regarding Aldrich, but one which comes from Dark Souls 2. Most players tend to sneer at the [[BreatherBoss Covetous Demon]] and his laughably easy patterns, but if he had been allowed to live for much longer and cannibalize thousands more, he'd have become ''like'' Aldrich if one such as Sulyvahn had approached him with the prospect of more power and victims. ''Anyone'' could have become like the Saint of the Deep in this game with but a little manipulation of their heart's desire.
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*** also the look of Aldrich [[spoiler: remember the blob students in the college?]]
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** Alternatively, he could actually be mute. Mute people are not entirely silent, they instead make grunts and other noises, as they cannot speak coherently.
*** Err, guys...They said that Horace's tongue was cut out! He grew up a tortured existance in the Cathedral of the Deep and is one of two surviving children who escaped. What else is in that area? Rosaria's Fingers. What do they collect? Tongues...
*** Horace is from Astora, he and Anri were the only two children to escape Aldrich's clutches. There are zero connections between Horace the Hushed and the Fingers of Rosaria.

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** Alternatively, he could actually be mute. Mute people are not entirely silent, they instead make grunts and other noises, as they cannot speak coherently.
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coherently. It's possible he had his tongue was cut out! He grew up a tortured existance in the Cathedral of the Deep and is one of two surviving children who escaped. What else is in that area? out by Rosaria's Fingers. What do they collect? Tongues...
*** Horace is from Astora, he and Anri were the only two children to escape Aldrich's clutches. There are zero connections between Horace the Hushed and the Fingers of Rosaria.
Fingers, or that his mouth got injured escaping Aldrich.
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It doesn't, since Ocelotte is Ocieros's son and the Fire Keepers are all female.


** Redgrave also made an offhand comment that maybe Ocelotte is [[spoiler: the Fire Keeper.]] It remains to be seen in the DLC whether or not that holds any water.
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* One thing you can notice during the fight against Vilhelm and [[spoiler: Sister Friede]] in ''Ashes of Ariandel'' is that when they activate their Dark Flame weapon arts, it creates a pale white glow around them as these "dark fires of humanity" ignite. What I find interesting is that this glow is almost the exact same color as the glow that surrounds the PC whenever they're in a dimly lit location, going all the way back to the first game. Then it hit me; you are Undead (or in the case of DSIII, an Unkindled born of an Undead), and thus the glow is being provided by the "dark fires of humanity" that burn inside of you. Nice little {{Retcon}} explanation for that bit of gameplay.
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** Hell, Aldrich himself dreamed of an "Age of the Deep Sea". [[spoiler: Where do the Great Ones come from again?]]
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* Of course Creighton [[spoiler: canonically bested Pate in [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII]]. The former is a serial killer who's been physically killing people by his hands, while the latter was never shown to explicitly seen killing people with his.]] How he's still around and joined an invasion covenant may arise some questions however.

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* Of course Creighton [[spoiler: canonically bested Pate in [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII]]. ''[[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII Dark Souls II]]''. [[spoiler: The former is a serial killer who's been physically killing people by his hands, while the latter was never shown to explicitly seen killing people with his.his. In addition, Creighton had better gear. And even then, the Bearer of the Curse was being constantly tricked by Pate's traps, causing the PC to side with Creighton should he interfere.]] How he's still around and joined an invasion covenant even after the events between the two games may arise some questions however.
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* Of course Creighton [[spoiler: canonically bested Pate in [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsII]]. The former is a serial killer who's been physically killing people by his hands, while the latter was never shown to explicitly seen killing people with his.]] How he's still around and joined an invasion covenant may arise some questions however.
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* With the release of Ashes of Ariandel, and the revelation that Sulyvahn is from the painting, it makes a few disparate details about Irithyll and the Church of the Deep make a bit more sense. It explains why there are Corvians on the Road of Sacrifices and in Irithyll itself, why there is one Pontiff Knight stationed directly outside Sulyvahn's Cathedral that uses a scythe, and possibly why Sulyvahn himself decided to overthrow the bloodline of Gwyn (keeping in mind that the original Painted World of Ariamis was essentially a prison for Priscilla and other such people who didn't have a place in the world of the gods).

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