History Fridge / Coraline

2nd May '18 10:04:12 PM Averagemoe
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* The Ghost Eye hidden in the Theater is disguised as a pearl on a ring. Why a pearl? Well, it's on the Other Forcible's finger, and her character in the play was heavily associated with oysters.
20th Feb '18 4:00:56 PM H8FearADRLuv
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* Towards the end of the Exploration scene, Coraline lists off what she finds in the final room to explore: "One boring blue painting, four incredibly boring windows, and ''no more doors''." It takes a while to catch on: this [[TemptingFate leads in]] to how there is [[ForegoneConclusion ''one more door'']] to find...

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* Towards the end of the Exploration scene, Coraline lists off what she finds in the final room to explore: "One boring blue boy in a painfully boring painting, four incredibly boring windows, and ''no more doors''." It takes a while to catch on: this [[TemptingFate leads in]] to how there is [[ForegoneConclusion ''one more door'']] to find...
20th Feb '18 3:59:32 PM H8FearADRLuv
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* Towards the end of the Exploration scene, Coraline lists off what she finds in the final room to explore: "One boring blue painting, four incredibly boring windows, and ''no more doors''." It takes a while to catch on: this [[TemptingFate leads in]] to how there is [[ForegoneConclusion ''one more door'']] to find...
16th Feb '18 9:06:19 PM ThraggLootrippa
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* The the neck brace that Coraline's mother is wearing is a stealth pun: to her mother, Coraline's antics are a ''pain in the neck''.

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* The the neck brace neckbrace that Coraline's mother is wearing is a stealth pun: to her mother, Coraline's antics are a ''pain in the neck''.
4th Feb '18 11:55:39 PM Octoya
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* [[http://theflyingredpig.tumblr.com/post/59347063888/upperstories-shoomlah-kateordie This post]] gives the overall lesson of the story: "The world Coraline lives in is supposed to be boring and gray, but the people are what give it life and purpose. In the Other Mother’s world, the people are plastic puppets where she pulls the strings because it presumably changes for every child she takes, but the world around them is bright and colorful for the purpose of enticing the children to stay… before they notice the inhabitants are nothing but dust."
* [[spoiler: The little circus ball that the mice use in the Other World? That's ''the sweet ghost girl's soul.'']]



* The Other Mother doesn't [[http://i.imgur.com/rSysfYP.jpg sport a neckbrace]] from the Jones' car crash in the real world. Brings a deeper meaning to "Everything's right in this world, kiddo."
** In addition, this may ''also'' justify Mrs. Jones's behaviour towards Coraline and her husband in the beginning -- not only is she facing job stress, but she's ''in pain''. Later on, when she's under less stress, the pain is easing up, allowing her to realize that she's been a bit of a jerk towards Coraline, and is legitimately ''wanting'' to make it up to her.
*** The symbolism behind the neck brace is also a stealth pun: to her mother, Coraline's antics are a ''pain in the neck''.
* The Other Mother becomes thinner each time Coraline visits. She is starving.

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* The Other Mother doesn't [[http://i.imgur.com/rSysfYP.jpg sport a neckbrace]] from the Jones' car crash in the real world. Brings a deeper meaning to "Everything's right in this world, kiddo."
** In addition, this may ''also'' justify Mrs. Jones's behaviour towards Coraline and her husband in the beginning -- not only is she facing job stress, but she's ''in pain''. Later on, when she's under less stress, the pain is easing up, allowing her to realize that she's been a bit of a jerk towards Coraline, and is legitimately ''wanting'' to make it up to her.
*** The symbolism behind
the neck brace that Coraline's mother is also wearing is a stealth pun: to her mother, Coraline's antics are a ''pain in the neck''.
* On closer examination, The Other Mother becomes thinner each time Coraline visits. She is starving.



* Wonder why [[spoiler: Coraline returns to the real world after falling asleep in the Other World the first two times, but ''not'' [[OhCrap the third time]]? Because the first two times, Coraline only visited the Other World [[AstralProjection in her dreams]]. The third time she goes, she visited the Other World in person. That's where she goes to bed, and that's where she wakes up.]]

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* Wonder why [[spoiler: Coraline returns to the real world after falling asleep in the Other World the first two times, but ''not'' [[OhCrap the third time]]? Because the first two times, Coraline only visited the Other World [[AstralProjection in her dreams]]. The third time she goes, she visited the Other World in person.person, during the day. That's where she goes to bed, and that's where she wakes up.]]



* Each of the three ghost eyes gave Coraline good advice upon [[spoiler: being located. The first eye congratulated her, but also took care to remind her she still had the other two to find. The second eye warned her that time was running out. And the third one told Coraline to think her way out of the Other World, because the Other Mother wouldn't keep her word.]]
* Notice how the Other Wybie doesn't wear any reflective stickers on his jacket, or his skull helmet? They're part of his ensemble as a rider on his little motorcycle, which Coraline ''hates'' because it took her by surprise. So they don't exist in the Other World, as a sign that he doesn't have it.
** Ironically enough, [[spoiler: they're what help Wybie save Coraline from the Other Mother's hand.]]
* Contrast the song Coraline's dad sang during dinner with the Other Father's song. The real one is horribly overworked. Coraline would like more of his weird little songs but he never has time anymore. Awwww.

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* Each of the three ghost eyes gave Coraline good advice upon [[spoiler: being located. The first eye congratulated her, but also took care to remind her she still had the other two to find. The second eye warned her that time was running out. And the third one told Coraline to think her way out of the Other World, because the Other Mother wouldn't keep her word.]]
* Notice how the Other Wybie doesn't wear any reflective stickers on his jacket, or his skull helmet? They're part of his ensemble as a rider on his little motorcycle, which Coraline ''hates'' because it took her by surprise. So they don't exist in the Other World, as a sign that he doesn't have it.
** Ironically enough, [[spoiler: they're what help Wybie save Coraline from
the Other Mother's hand.]]
motorcycle.
* Contrast the song Coraline's dad sang during dinner with the Other Father's song. The real one is horribly overworked. Coraline would like more of his weird little songs but he never has time anymore. Awwww.



** Which makes the implications just as depressing, as he reminds her of her sister.



* The opening credits, with the Coraline Doll being sewn out of some other doll? [[spoiler: It's the doll of the CuteGhostGirl, Wybie's great aunt.]] And the doll's being sewn up by a being carefully kept off camera, save the hands. Those ''metal hands''. You know, [[spoiler:like the ones the Other Mother has]]?
** And it's reversible, too, with different skin-tone sides, customizable hair, and, of course, eyes. [[spoiler:She uses the same doll for every child she entraps, and it simply returns to her when it's done to be redesigned into the next child. It's like an evil version of Build-a-Bear Workshop.]]
** Related, look at the spinning wheel and thread that also appears during the making of the Coraline doll. That's spider silk!
* Literally everything from the real apartment has an Other World counterpart. Yes, everything. Even the VW Beetle.
** Specifically, [[spoiler: it takes the form of the praying mantis the Other Father rides.]]
* The Other Mother never eats. While the Other Father's plate is always piled with food, the Other Mother's plate is always empty at meal times.
** Very subtle way of showing the Other Mother cannot sustain herself on her own creations and that they're at most an illusion. She can only feed on the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild love of]] [[EmotionEater others]].
** Well, she does snack on some chocolate colored bugs. But they're only snacks.
* [[spoiler: The Other Mother's final form resembles a spider. Several species of spiders are known to eat their offspring.]]
** "That's ridiculous. Mothers don't eat... daughters..."
** And then, of course, there's trap door spiders, which pull their prey through self-built trap doors that blend in with their surroundings...

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* The opening credits, with the Coraline Doll being sewn out of some other doll? [[spoiler: It's the doll of the CuteGhostGirl, Wybie's great aunt.]] And the doll's being sewn up by a being carefully kept off camera, save the hands. Those ''metal hands''. You know, [[spoiler:like the ones the Other Mother has]]?
** And it's reversible, too, with different skin-tone sides, customizable hair, and, of course, eyes. [[spoiler:She uses the same doll for every child she entraps, and it simply returns to her when it's done to be redesigned into the next child. It's like an evil version of Build-a-Bear Workshop.]]
** Related, look at the spinning wheel and thread that also appears during the making of the Coraline doll. That's spider silk!
* Literally everything from the real apartment has an Other World counterpart. Yes, everything. Even the VW Beetle.
** Specifically, [[spoiler: it takes
Beetle, which appears to not be present, is actually there in the form of [[spoiler: the praying mantis the Other Father rides.]]
* The Other Mother never eats. While the Other Father's plate is always piled with food, the Other Mother's plate is always empty at meal times.
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times, chocolate-bug snacks notwithstanding. Very subtle way of showing the Other Mother cannot sustain herself on her own creations and that they're at most an illusion. She can only feed on the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild love of]] [[EmotionEater others]].
** Well, she does snack on some chocolate colored bugs. But they're only snacks.
* [[spoiler: The Other Mother's final form resembles a spider. Several species of spiders are known to eat their offspring.]]
** "That's ridiculous. Mothers don't eat... daughters..."
**
]] And then, of course, there's trap door spiders, which pull their prey through self-built trap doors that blend in with their surroundings...



* Listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPS3XlRYLk&feature=PlayList&p=DCD67CE98D531DCE&index=10 the song the Other Father sings]]. Really listen to the lyrics. He's ''trying to warn her'' about what will happen if she continues coming to the Other World.

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* Listen If one listens to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPS3XlRYLk&feature=PlayList&p=DCD67CE98D531DCE&index=10 the lyrics of the song the Other Father sings]]. Really listen sings more closely, they appear to the lyrics. He's ''trying to warn her'' be actually warning Coraline about what will happen if she continues coming to the Other World.



* The Other Mother ended up being [[spoiler: a GiantSpider]]. The holes in the button eyes can be looked at as eyes themselves. So she has multiple eyes!
** And 4 holes in each button make 8 eyes, same as spiders have.
** Does this mean there's a connection between the looking-stone tool Coraline has and the buttons?
** No, that's just a adder stone.

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* The Other Mother ended up being [[spoiler: a GiantSpider]]. The holes in the button eyes can be looked at as eyes themselves. So she has multiple eyes!
** And
4 holes in each button make 8 eyes, the same as spiders have.
** Does this mean there's a connection between the looking-stone tool Coraline has and the buttons?
** No, that's just a adder stone.
have.



** [[spoiler: Bats of the suborder [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabat Megachiroptera]] are known as Megabats in English, but also as flying foxes, which are canine. In other languages, such as Dutch, these are known as flying ''dogs''.]]



* The Other Father calls the Other Mother "Mother." It's not ''just'' because the Other Mother means to replace Coraline's real mother in the girl's eyes, it's because ''the Other Mother created him.'' In a sense, she really ''is'' his mother! (Can quickly become FridgeHorror if you consider all her copy-creations to be her children....which she [[BodyHorror mutilates]] and/or destroys.)

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* The Other Father calls the Other Mother "Mother." It's not ''just'' because the Other Mother means to replace Coraline's real mother in the girl's eyes, it's because ''the Other Mother created him.'' In a sense, she really ''is'' his mother! (Can quickly become FridgeHorror if you consider all her copy-creations add another layer of horror to be her children....which how she [[BodyHorror mutilates]] and/or destroys.destroys her own "children".)



* As Coraline lies in bed after seeing the Other Mouse Circus, the Other Mother, Father, and Wybie are there. What does the Other Mother do right as Coraline falls asleep? [[spoiler:She ''shushes'' the Other Father.]]
** I don't get it?
*** On Coraline's second trip the Other Father tries to warn her through song, the Other Mother noticed and was telling him to shut up.
* The Other Mother's line "I'll die without you!!" Sounds overdramatic at first, but knowing what she does to the kids that she gets bored of...It has a double meaning since if she doesn't eat the kid she'll starve to death.
** And how long has she been without food... no wonder she's desperate.
** I never got the impression that she played with her food once she caught it...?
* Dunno if this counts as anything really but according to how long it took for the stone Coraline dropped to hit the bottom of the well (the rock/hand/key package takes about the same amount of time too), the well is about ''165 feet'' deep.
* The Ghost Childrens' and later Coraline's prison gives a whole new meaning to ''one-way mirror''.

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* As Coraline lies in bed after seeing the Other Mouse Circus, the Other Mother, Father, and Wybie are there. What does the Other Mother do right as Coraline falls asleep? [[spoiler:She She ''shushes'' the Other Father.]]
** I don't get it?
*** On Coraline's second trip
Father. Which might not make sense at first, until one remembers that on her previous visit the Other Father tries Father, almost immediately upon meeting Coraline, seemed to try to warn her through song, the Other Mother noticed and was telling him to shut up.
with a song.
* The Other Mother's line "I'll die without you!!" Sounds overdramatic at first, but knowing what she does to the kids that she gets bored of...It has a double meaning since if she doesn't eat the kid she'll starve to death.
**
death. And with how long has she been without food... no wonder she's desperate. \n** I never got the impression that she played with her food once she caught it...?\n* Dunno if this counts as anything really but according to how long it took for the stone Coraline dropped to hit the bottom of the well (the rock/hand/key package takes about the same amount of time too), the well is about ''165 feet'' deep.\n* The Ghost Childrens' and later Coraline's prison gives a whole new meaning to ''one-way mirror''.



** Near the end, the Other Father starts to resemble a pumpkin, which is probably what the Other Mother made him from--sort of a creepy, BodyHorror-style twist on the [[Literature/{{Cinderella}} Fairy Godmother turning a pumpkin into a carriage to satisfy a little girl wanting more.]]

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** * Near the end, the Other Father starts to resemble a pumpkin, which is probably what the Other Mother made him from--sort of a creepy, BodyHorror-style twist on the [[Literature/{{Cinderella}} Fairy Godmother turning a pumpkin into a carriage to satisfy a little girl wanting more.]]



* Many people compared the film to [[AlicesAdventuresInWonderland Alice In Wonderland]], but the more I think about it, the film is similar to the legend of {{Theatre/Faust}}. Both main characters are dissatisfied with what they have. The Other Mother is a lot like the devil in the legend in that she gives Coraline her desires. It's only when she offers buttons for her eyes is when Coraline realises that she made a DealWithTheDevil.

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* Many people compared the film to [[AlicesAdventuresInWonderland Alice In Wonderland]], but the more I think about it, On reflection, the film is similar to the legend of {{Theatre/Faust}}. Both main characters are dissatisfied with what they have. The Other Mother is a lot like the devil in the legend in that she gives Coraline her desires. It's only when she offers buttons for her eyes is when Coraline realises that she made a DealWithTheDevil.



* There is a less obvious aesop in the film of, "If one looks beyond first impressions, things that appear boring can turn out to be interesting." Coraline is lured to the Other World by flashy and fun-looking copies of the people in her life, but "flash" is ultimately all they have as hollow mirages. In contrast, the real world is drab and the people odd, but they are the ones with three dimensions, and by the end, Coraline takes an interest in her neighbours' lives.



* Even with all the perks and promises given by the Other Mother, the movie still presents the {{Squick}} of sewing buttons in your eyes as an obvious dealbreaker. Coraline is automatically aghast at the suggestion, raising the question of why three other children wouldn't have had the same reaction. Then you remember that the ghost children grew up in completely different eras to Coraline; where sexism, racism, and classism were heavily detrimental to a child's quality of life. Their fantasy worlds wouldn't have just been refuges from negligent parents, but from society as a whole. They would have had far more reason than Coraline to be desperate for a better life, making their fates even more of a TearJerker.
** To expand this further: when you think about it, Coraline's life isn't particularly miserable. She's bored and disgruntled at the beginning of the film, yes, but most of the problems causing this (moving stress; parents too busy to pay attention to her) are temporary. Now think about how someone in a terrible, inescapable situation (growing up with abusive parents, for example) would react to the offer of this seemingly perfect world, where all their life's problems were solved?

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* Even with all the perks and promises given by the Other Mother, the movie still presents the {{Squick}} of sewing buttons in your eyes as an obvious dealbreaker. Coraline is automatically aghast at the suggestion, raising the question of why three other children wouldn't have had the same reaction. Then you remember that the ghost children grew up in completely different eras to Coraline; where sexism, racism, and classism were heavily detrimental to a child's quality of life. To say nothing of the possibility that, unlike Coraline, their home lives could have been ''actually'' abusive and not just plagued with moving stress. Their fantasy worlds wouldn't have just been refuges from negligent parents, but from society as a whole.abusive ones, or an abusive society. They would have had far more reason than Coraline to be desperate for a better life, making their fates even more of a TearJerker.
** To expand this further: when you think about it, Coraline's life isn't particularly miserable. She's bored and disgruntled at * It is clear from the beginning of book (and directly stated in the film, yes, but most of the problems causing this (moving stress; movie) that Coraline wishes her parents too busy would pay more attention to her. Now on the foreground, the Other Mother merely ''pretends'' to pay attention to her) are temporary. Now think Coraline in order to [[spoiler: entrap her]]. But some bits of interaction (the [[HatesBeingTouched unwanted hugging]], the "learn to be a loving daughter" and such) give the Other Mother a behaviour typical for AbusiveParents, specifically of MyBelovedSmother -- which often happens if parents pay '''too much''' (unhealthy) attention to kids. Coraline ''really'' got [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what she desired]] -- and it was horrible for her, ''on top'' of the whole [[spoiler: evil Fairy]] stuff.
* The phrase "Beldam" may be a reference to "La Belle Dame Sans Merci (The Beautiful Woman Without Mercy)", a poem
about how someone in a terrible, inescapable situation (growing up knight charmed and abandoned by the titular dangerous fairy. So does that mean that the Beldam does not necessarily prey only on children? Not likely, though, since the word "beldam" is an archaic term for "witch" that long predates the poem.
* The "Paragon of Animals" bit from Other Forcible and Other Spink. It's a reference to Hamlet, but the original has a very, very sarcastic tone and doesn't cut off at the word animal. It ends
with abusive parents, "...and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust?" What is Other Wybie made out of, and what does his hand revert to when it goes beyond Other Mother's threshold?
* Where was the Other Mother when Mel was shopping
for example) would react groceries and Coraline went to the offer of this seemingly perfect world, where all their life's problems were solved?
Other World? The Other Mother left the invitation to (Other) Spink and Forcible's show and the outfit, but she was missing herself. Presumably, she was [[spoiler:out getting Coraline's parents. Coraline goes back and they're gone...]]



* The food in the Other World that Coraline eats. '''What''' is it made of??
** All of it is probably made of the same thing... gives a whole new meaning to 'breakfast dinner food', doesn't it?
*** Not even that, it is possible that every material in the Other World is made from a unknown, generic base...
* Where did the doll go after the events of the movie?
** If you assume that [[spoiler:the doll of both Coraline's mom and dad is the same one the Other Mother used to spy on children, it's burned to ashes. Phew!]]
* [[CreepyDoll Little Me]] is extremely disturbing. [[spoiler: It moves around your house when you're not looking, and the Other Mother can see through its eyes. Which bears an even more horrific implication: the Other Mother can see through buttons.]]
* The Other Mother never eats. While the Other Father's plate is always piled with food, the Other Mother's plate is always empty at meal times. And the Other Mother's true form is that of a [[spoiler: spider]] who doesn't want Coraline to leave her and ends up chasing her by the end of the movie...
** What's more is that the Other Father eats much more than even Coraline. [[spoiler:His twisted form later in the movie has a distended, flopping belly...]]
* Also consider that the Other Mother creates all the other 'facsimiles' of real people in her pocket dimension to not only be sentient, but they also have free will! Some of them like the Other Wybie and the Other Father genuinely care for Coraline and try to help her.. leading either to their very real deaths or [[AndIMustScream their loss of physical control over their own bodies while still having freedom of thought and speech...]]
* The Other Mother is really [[spoiler: a large spider]] that can change into different forms and create illusions to seduce children? [[Literature/{{It}} Sound familiar?]]
* Take the Other Father Song from the movie, that jaunty little tune. Now look closely, REALLY CLOSELY, at the lyrics: "Making up a song about Coraline. She's a peach she's a DOLL she's a pal of mine. She's as cute as a BUTTON IN THE EYES of everyone who ever laid their eyes on Coraline. When she comes around exploring Mom and I will never ever make it boring. OUR EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE." Utterly terrifying.
** Might actually be FridgeBrilliance if you consider that maybe he's subtly warning Coraline of what Other Mother has planned for her.
** At least on the Latin American dub, all the subtle warnings are dropped off in favor of telling her she's "as cute as button eyes, even more than others' eyes".

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* The food little circus ball that the mice use in the Other World during that Coraline eats. '''What''' is it made of??
** All of it is probably made of the same thing... gives a whole new meaning to 'breakfast dinner food', doesn't it?
*** Not even that, it is possible
cute and entertaining sequence? [[spoiler:That's ''the sweet ghost girl's soul.'']]
* The fact
that every material everything in the Other World is seems to be made from a unknown, generic base...
* Where did the doll go after the events
of the movie?
** If you assume that [[spoiler:the doll of both Coraline's mom and dad is
the same one thing. The entire time in the Other Mother used to spy on children, it's burned to ashes. Phew!]]
* [[CreepyDoll Little Me]] is extremely disturbing. [[spoiler: It moves around your house when you're
World, whatever Coraline was eating was... probably not looking, and the Other Mother can see through its eyes. Which bears an even more horrific implication: the Other Mother can see through buttons.]]
actually food.
* The Other Mother never eats. While As well as being brilliance, the Other Father's plate is always piled with food, the Other Mother's plate is always empty at meal times. And the Other Mother's true form is that of a [[spoiler: spider]] who doesn't want Coraline to leave her song counts for sounding cheery and ends up chasing her by the end of the movie...
** What's more is that the Other Father eats much more than even Coraline. [[spoiler:His twisted form later in the movie has a distended, flopping belly...]]
* Also consider that the Other Mother creates all the other 'facsimiles' of real people in her pocket dimension to not only be sentient,
innocent, but they also have free will! Some of them like the Other Wybie and the Other Father genuinely care for Coraline and try to help her.. leading either to their very real deaths or [[AndIMustScream their loss of physical control over their own bodies while still having freedom of thought and speech...]]
* The Other Mother is really [[spoiler: a large spider]] that can change into different forms and create illusions to seduce children? [[Literature/{{It}} Sound familiar?]]
* Take the Other Father Song from the movie, that jaunty little tune. Now look closely, REALLY CLOSELY, at
being pretty creepy when one examines the lyrics: "Making up a song about Coraline. She's a peach she's a DOLL she's a pal of mine. She's as cute as a BUTTON IN THE EYES of everyone who ever laid their eyes on Coraline. When she comes around exploring Mom and I will never ever make it boring. OUR EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE." Utterly terrifying.
** Might actually be FridgeBrilliance if you consider that maybe he's subtly warning Coraline of what Other Mother has planned for her.
** At least on the Latin American dub, all the subtle warnings are dropped off in favor of telling her she's "as cute as button eyes, even more than others' eyes".
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** When Coraline tells her father the food is ready, the piano raises its hand and slaps the Other Father. Could've just been an accident... could've been the piano telling him off for trying to warn Coraline.
* The fate of the children that the Other Mother kidnapped. It's clear that the other children are dead [[spoiler: caused by whatever the hell the Other Mother was doing to them]] but the fact remains that the children's real mothers [[AdultFear never knew what happened to their children or had any sense of closure.]] The movie adaptation made it a little bit better when Wybie's grandmother [[spoiler: finally had some sense of peace of what happened to her twin sister.]]
** The book makes it much plainer as to how the children died. [[spoiler: When they accepted her eyes, the children became her playthings. Sooner or later, she grows tired of her playthings and does to them what children everywhere do to their old toys. They ''put them away and never take them out again.'' Bluntly, she put them in her "toybox" one day and let them starve because they weren't new, fun toys anymore.]]
* It is clear from the book (and directly stated in the movie) that Coraline wishes her parents would pay more attention to her. Now on the foreground, the Other Mother merely ''pretends'' to pay attention to Coraline in order to [[spoiler: entrap her]]. But some bits of interaction (the [[HatesBeingTouched unwanted hugging]], the "learn to be a loving daughter" and such) give the Other Mother a behaviour typical for AbusiveParents, specifically of MyBelovedSmother -- which often happens if parents pay '''too much''' (unhealthy) attention to kids. Coraline ''really'' got [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what she desired]] -- and it was horrible for her, ''on top'' of the whole [[spoiler: evil Fairy]] stuff.
* Being essentially a [[TheFairFolk fae creature]], the Other Mother may have existed for a [[OlderThanTheyThink long, LONG time]] possibly [[OlderThanDirt before the dawn of civilisation]], stealing children to feed on their souls. That means that there may have been thousands or millions of trapped souls in the Other World that wasted away to nothing with nobody to free them. The three children's souls we see are just the latest batch still clinging onto hope. It's also possible that Coraline may have been the first child in history to thwart the Beldam...
** And then there's the [[GeniusLoci Passage]] [[MindScrew Between]] [[EldritchAbomination Worlds]], a living entity so powerful and [[TimeAbyss so unfathomably ancient]] that even she [[NothingIsScarier has no idea what the hell it is]]. In fact, the Beldam, [[HumanoidAbomination an immortal being of myth who possesses control over a separate dimension and has existed since time immemorial]], [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm can't even comprehend]] The Passage's existence because it's so... '''''beyond''' her''.
* The phrase "Beldam" may be a reference to "La Belle Dame Sans Merci (The Beautiful Woman Without Mercy)", a poem about a knight charmed and abandoned by the titular dangerous fairy. So does that mean that the Beldam does not necessarily prey only on children? Not likely, though, since the word "beldam" is an archaic term for "witch" that long predates the poem.
* Additionally: since the Other Mother has a mother, she can procreate. But species that procreate are rarely single. There could be ''more'' "other mothers" around...
** "I didn't know I had another mother." "Of course you do. Everyone does."
*** Given how much she lies, she may not be telling the truth -- or she simply takes the form of the mother of whoever goes through her door, so that "everyone" does have an Other Mother.

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** When Coraline tells her father the food is ready, the piano raises its hand and slaps the Other Father. Could've just been an a goofy accident... could've been the piano telling him off for trying to warn Coraline.
* The fate of the children that the Other Mother kidnapped. It's clear that the other children are dead [[spoiler: caused by whatever the hell the Other Mother was doing to them]] but the fact remains that the children's real mothers [[AdultFear never knew what happened to their children or had any sense of closure.]] The movie adaptation made it a little bit better when Wybie's grandmother [[spoiler: finally had some sense of peace of what happened to her twin sister.]]
** The book makes it much plainer as to
Coraline, like how the children died. [[spoiler: When they accepted her eyes, the children became her playthings. Sooner or later, she grows tired of her playthings and does it tries to them what children everywhere do to their old toys. They ''put them away and never take them out again.'' Bluntly, she put them in her "toybox" one day and let them starve because they weren't new, fun toys anymore.]]
shut him up later.
* It is clear from the book (and directly stated in the movie) that Coraline wishes her parents would pay more attention to her. Now on the foreground, the Other Mother merely ''pretends'' to pay attention to Coraline in order to [[spoiler: entrap her]]. But some bits of interaction (the [[HatesBeingTouched unwanted hugging]], the "learn to be a loving daughter" and such) give the Other Mother a behaviour typical for AbusiveParents, specifically of MyBelovedSmother -- which often happens if parents pay '''too much''' (unhealthy) attention to kids. Coraline ''really'' got [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor what she desired]] -- and it was horrible for her, ''on top'' of the whole [[spoiler: evil Fairy]] stuff.
* Being essentially a [[TheFairFolk fae creature]], the Other Mother may have existed for a [[OlderThanTheyThink long, LONG time]] possibly [[OlderThanDirt before the dawn of civilisation]], stealing children to feed on their souls. That means that there may have been thousands or millions of trapped souls in the Other World that wasted away to nothing with nobody to free them. The three children's souls we see are just the latest batch still clinging onto hope. It's also possible that Coraline may have been the first child in history to thwart the Beldam...
** And then there's the [[GeniusLoci Passage]] [[MindScrew Between]] [[EldritchAbomination Worlds]], a living entity so powerful and [[TimeAbyss so unfathomably ancient]] that even she [[NothingIsScarier has no idea what the hell it is]]. In fact, the Beldam, [[HumanoidAbomination an immortal being of myth who possesses control over a separate dimension and has existed since time immemorial]], [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm can't even comprehend]] The Passage's existence because it's so... '''''beyond''' her''.
* The phrase "Beldam" may be a reference to "La Belle Dame Sans Merci (The Beautiful Woman Without Mercy)", a poem about a knight charmed and abandoned by the titular dangerous fairy. So does that mean that the Beldam does not necessarily prey only on children? Not likely, though, since the word "beldam" is an archaic term for "witch" that long predates the poem.
* Additionally: since
Since the Other Mother has a mother, mother in the book, she can procreate. But species that procreate are rarely single. There could be ''more'' "other mothers" around...
** "I didn't know I had another mother." "Of course you do. Everyone does."
*** Given how much she lies, she may not
around... it might be telling the truth -- or she simply takes the form of the mother of whoever goes through her door, so that "everyone" does have an Other Mother.she wasn't lying when she told Coraline everyone has one.



* The "Paragon of Animals" bit from Other Forcible and Other Spink. It's a reference to Hamlet, but the original has a very, very sarcastic tone and doesn't cut off at the word animal. It ends with "...and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust?" What is Other Wybie made out of, and what does his hand revert to when it goes beyond Other Mother's threshold?
* The Beldam's world seems to be reserved for children lacking something vital in the real world, such as having an unhappy home life. If Sweet Ghost Girl had an unhappy life, there's two possibles for her sister -- Wybie's grandmother. First, she shared in her sister's misery and was also ensnared by the Beldam, but managed to escape. Second, she was the favorite of their parents who were either neglectful or abusive to her sister. In short, either Wybie's grandmother lived through something that cost her her sister, or she believes her own favor with their parents drove her away.
** While it wouldn't assuage whatever guilt Grandma Lovat has, it might be as simple as Sweet Ghost Girl having lost a proverbial coin toss. If Other Mother can't or won't cater to more than one child at a time (no matter how much their interests might overlap), then she somehow arbitrarily chose Sweet Ghost Girl over her sister. It might have come down to which twin found the doll first.

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* The "Paragon of Animals" bit from Other Forcible and Other Spink. It's a reference to Hamlet, but the original has a very, very sarcastic tone and doesn't cut off at the word animal. It ends with "...and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust?" What is Other Wybie made out of, and what does his hand revert to when it goes beyond Other Mother's threshold?
* The Beldam's world seems to be reserved for children lacking something vital in the real world, such as having an unhappy home life. If Sweet Ghost Girl had an unhappy life, there's two possibles for her sister -- Wybie's grandmother. First, she shared in her sister's misery and was either ignored by the Beldam, left to her sad home life, or she was also ensnared by the Beldam, but managed to escape. Second, she was the favorite of their parents who were either neglectful or abusive to her sister. In short, either Wybie's grandmother lived through something that cost her her sister, or she believes her own favor with their parents drove her away.
** While it wouldn't assuage whatever guilt Grandma Lovat has, it might be as simple as Sweet Ghost Girl having lost a proverbial coin toss. If Other Mother can't or won't cater to more than one child at a time (no matter how much their interests might overlap), then she somehow arbitrarily chose Sweet Ghost Girl over her sister. It might have come down to which twin found the doll first.
away.



* The bed that the Ghost Children hide in has a large puddle in the middle. They have literally pissed the bed with fear.

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* The bed that the Ghost Children hide in has a large puddle in the middle. They have literally pissed wet the bed with fear.



* [[spoiler: Coraline is charged with finding the eyes of the ''three'' ghost children. Her mission is complete after retrieving only three eyes, which begs the question of why each ghost child has two buttons if they are all suffer from cyclopia. Apparently they were symbolic eyes, not literal ones.]]
** The three [[BuffySpeak glowing ball thingys]] might have just been containers for the actual sets of eyes. Near the end, when Coraline meets the children again before they pass on to heaven, the three globes are cracked like eggs and the kids have their eyes back.
** [[spoiler: In the book, it was their souls, so this troper would put it down to ExecutiveMeddling.]]
** [[spoiler: I thought this was a rather obvious bit of symbolism, with eyes being the "windows to the soul" and all. The whole process of sewing buttons into the children's eyes is essentially symbolic representation of the Other Mother taking the children's souls, anyway. Also, it can be said that anything with button eyes, including the Beldam herself, doesn't have a soul.]] I think this is less an example of FrideLogic and more you taking things a little too literally.
** [[spoiler: I always thought it was one eye each because it's their ThirdEye.]]
* Why would Wybie's grandmother, who doesn't allow families with children live at the Pink Palace, let Coraline and her family move in? Think about it....
** She could have just ''really'' needed the money and decided to take a chance.
** It's fully possible that she didn't know about Coraline until the family was moving in. It's not unheard of for parents to lie about not having a child in order to get a cheaper or more quiet apartment.
** People also lie about their pets. Now think of Miss Spink...
** In some states it's illegal to refuse to rent to someone on the basis that they have children. Wybie's grandmother probably made it very clear that she didn't want children in her building, which kept most people away, but if push came to shove (such as in the case of an overworked family wanting to meet a deadline) she'd have to give way.
** Possibly, she thought "Well, my sister was not quite 8 and this girl looks closer to 12. Maybe Beldam won't be interested in her. Anyway, she'll be perfectly safe as long as I keep that doll locked up." Then Wybie comes in and tells her he gave Coraline that doll that looks so much like her....
** Sadly, Wybie's grandmother might have been developing dementia at that point and had forgotten that she didn't want any families with kids living in the Pink Palace.
** FridgeHorror: Perhaps she started to worry that Wybie was around the right age for the Beldam to take interest and wanted another child around to divert her attention.
* Where was the Other Mother when Mel was shopping for groceries and Coraline went to the Other World? The Other Mother left the invitation to (Other) Spink and Forcible's show and the outfit, but where was the Beldam?
** FridgeBrilliance: presumably she was [[spoiler:out getting Coraline's parents. Coraline goes back and they're gone...]]

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* [[spoiler: Coraline is charged with finding the eyes of the ''three'' ghost children. Her mission is complete after retrieving only three eyes, which begs the question of why each ghost child has two buttons if they are all suffer from cyclopia. Apparently they were symbolic eyes, not literal ones.ones, unless the balls were just containers for the eyes.]]
** The three [[BuffySpeak glowing ball thingys]] might have just been containers for the actual sets of eyes. Near the end, when Coraline meets the children again before they pass on to heaven, the three globes are cracked like eggs and the kids have their eyes back.
** [[spoiler: In the book, it was their souls, so this troper would put it down to ExecutiveMeddling.]]
** [[spoiler: I thought this was a rather obvious bit of symbolism, with eyes being the "windows to the soul" and all. The whole process of sewing buttons into the children's eyes is essentially symbolic representation of the Other Mother taking the children's souls, anyway. Also, it
* Although one can be said that anything with button eyes, including the Beldam herself, doesn't have a soul.]] I think this is less an example of FrideLogic and more you taking things a little too literally.
** [[spoiler: I always thought it was one eye each because
speculate, it's their ThirdEye.]]
* Why would
never actually explained why Wybie's grandmother, who doesn't allow families with children to live at the Pink Palace, let Coraline and her family move in? Think about it....
** She could have just ''really'' needed the money and decided to take a chance.
** It's fully possible that she didn't know about Coraline until the family was moving in. It's not unheard of for parents to lie about not having a child in order to get a cheaper or more quiet apartment.
** People also lie about their pets. Now think of Miss Spink...
** In some states it's illegal to refuse to rent to someone on the basis that they have children. Wybie's grandmother probably made it very clear that she didn't want children in her building, which kept most people away, but if push came to shove (such as in the case of an overworked family wanting to meet a deadline) she'd have to give way.
** Possibly, she thought "Well, my sister was not quite 8 and this girl looks closer to 12. Maybe Beldam won't be interested in her. Anyway, she'll be perfectly safe as long as I keep that doll locked up." Then Wybie comes in and tells her he gave Coraline that doll that looks so much like her....
** Sadly, Wybie's grandmother might have been developing dementia at that point and had forgotten that she didn't want any families with kids living in the Pink Palace.
** FridgeHorror: Perhaps she started to worry that Wybie was around the right age for the Beldam to take interest and wanted another child around to divert her attention.
* Where was the Other Mother when Mel was shopping for groceries and Coraline went to the Other World? The Other Mother left the invitation to (Other) Spink and Forcible's show and the outfit, but where was the Beldam?
** FridgeBrilliance: presumably she was [[spoiler:out getting Coraline's parents. Coraline goes back and they're gone...]]
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28th Jan '18 1:13:49 AM ChrisDen
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** It could also add brilliance to why [[spoiler: the Other Mother waited until the third visit to invite Coraline to stay in the Other World for good. She was waiting for the moment Coraline would come in person. And it's also why she wasn't bothered when Coraline refused to have buttons sown onto her eyes, because she was [[SmugSnake certain]] she wouldn't be able to escape.]]

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** It could also add brilliance to why [[spoiler: the Other Mother waited until the third visit to invite Coraline to stay in the Other World for good. She was waiting for the moment Coraline would come in person. And it's also why she wasn't bothered when Coraline refused to have buttons sown sewn onto her eyes, because she was [[SmugSnake certain]] she wouldn't be able to escape.]]
27th Jan '18 11:02:22 PM karategal
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* Ever notice how Wybie never stands up straight? He has scoliosis. Curvature of the spine. The Other Wybie doesn't have this, which either meant Coraline was irritated at this or was a bit more worried about him then she led him to believe.

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* Ever notice how Wybie never stands up straight? He has scoliosis. Curvature of the spine. The Other Wybie doesn't have this, which either meant Coraline was irritated at this or was a bit more worried about him then than she led him to believe.



** And it's reversible, too, with different skin-tone sides, and customizable hair and of course eyes. [[spoiler:She uses the same doll for every child she entraps, and it simply returns to her when it's done to be redesigned into the next child. It's like an evil version of Build-a-Bear Workshop.]]

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** And it's reversible, too, with different skin-tone sides, and customizable hair and hair, and, of course course, eyes. [[spoiler:She uses the same doll for every child she entraps, and it simply returns to her when it's done to be redesigned into the next child. It's like an evil version of Build-a-Bear Workshop.]]



* The [[spoiler: bat forms of Ms. Forcible and Ms. Spink's dogs]] don't make any sense until you realize that their [[spoiler:dead]] real-word counterparts [[spoiler: also have wings]]

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* The [[spoiler: bat forms of Ms. Forcible and Ms. Spink's dogs]] don't make any sense until you realize that their [[spoiler:dead]] real-word counterparts [[spoiler: also have wings]]wings]].



* A blink and you miss it moment--when Coraline enters the circus to retrieve the last ghost eye, the Other Mr. B ([[spoiler:or what's left of him]]) briefly takes on a decidedly ratlike pose.

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* A blink and you miss it moment--when moment -- when Coraline enters the circus to retrieve the last ghost eye, the Other Mr. B ([[spoiler:or what's left of him]]) briefly takes on a decidedly ratlike pose.



*** Given how much she lies, she may not be telling the truth--or she simply takes the form of the mother of whoever goes through her door, so that "everyone" does have an Other Mother.

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*** Given how much she lies, she may not be telling the truth--or truth -- or she simply takes the form of the mother of whoever goes through her door, so that "everyone" does have an Other Mother.
25th Jan '18 11:04:12 PM karategal
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* [[http://theflyingredpig.tumblr.com/post/59347063888/upperstories-shoomlah-kateordie This post]] gives the overall lesson of the story: "The world Coraline lives in is supposed to be boring and gray, but the people are what give it life and purpose. In the Other Mother’s world the people are plastic puppets where she pulls the strings because it presumably changes for every child she takes, but the world around them is bright and colorful for the purpose of enticing the children to stay… before they notice the inhabitants are nothing but dust."
* [[spoiler: The little circus ball that the mice use in the Other world? That's ''the sweet ghost girl's soul.'']]

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* [[http://theflyingredpig.tumblr.com/post/59347063888/upperstories-shoomlah-kateordie This post]] gives the overall lesson of the story: "The world Coraline lives in is supposed to be boring and gray, but the people are what give it life and purpose. In the Other Mother’s world world, the people are plastic puppets where she pulls the strings because it presumably changes for every child she takes, but the world around them is bright and colorful for the purpose of enticing the children to stay… before they notice the inhabitants are nothing but dust."
* [[spoiler: The little circus ball that the mice use in the Other world? World? That's ''the sweet ghost girl's soul.'']]



* Wonder why [[spoiler: Coraline returns to the real world after falling asleep in the Other world the first two times, but ''not'' [[OhCrap the third time]]? Because the first two times, Coraline only visited the Other world [[AstralProjection in her dreams]]. The third time she goes, she visited the Other world in person. That's where she goes to bed, and that's where she wakes up.]]

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* Wonder why [[spoiler: Coraline returns to the real world after falling asleep in the Other world World the first two times, but ''not'' [[OhCrap the third time]]? Because the first two times, Coraline only visited the Other world World [[AstralProjection in her dreams]]. The third time she goes, she visited the Other world World in person. That's where she goes to bed, and that's where she wakes up.]]



* Literally everything from the real apartment has an otherworld counterpart. Yes, everything. Even the VW Beetle.

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* Literally everything from the real apartment has an otherworld Other World counterpart. Yes, everything. Even the VW Beetle.



* The Other Mother never eats. While the other father's plate is always piled with food, the other mother's plate is always empty at meal times.

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* The Other Mother never eats. While the other father's Other Father's plate is always piled with food, the other mother's Other Mother's plate is always empty at meal times.



* Listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPS3XlRYLk&feature=PlayList&p=DCD67CE98D531DCE&index=10 the song the Other Father sings]]. Really listen to the lyrics. He's ''trying to warn her'' about what will happen if she continues coming to the other world.

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* Listen to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPS3XlRYLk&feature=PlayList&p=DCD67CE98D531DCE&index=10 the song the Other Father sings]]. Really listen to the lyrics. He's ''trying to warn her'' about what will happen if she continues coming to the other world.Other World.



* The other world has subtle ways of showing it's a MirrorUniverse. Wybie and Coraline's dad in the real world are totally useless at helping her or giving her advice, thinking she's just acting out for attention or [[CloudCuckooLander is plain nuts]]. Wybie is even the one who gives her the doll which starts the whole mess. The "other Wybie" and "other father" are the only two characters created by the Beldam who try to warn Coraline (and help her where they can) of the dangers and they both intentionally let slip important information.

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* The other world Other World has subtle ways of showing it's a MirrorUniverse. Wybie and Coraline's dad in the real world are totally useless at helping her or giving her advice, thinking she's just acting out for attention or [[CloudCuckooLander is plain nuts]]. Wybie is even the one who gives her the doll which starts the whole mess. The "other Wybie" and "other father" are the only two characters created by the Beldam who try to warn Coraline (and help her where they can) of the dangers and they both intentionally let slip important information.



*** On Coraline's second trip the otherFather tries to warn her through song, the otherMother noticed and was telling him to shut up.

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*** On Coraline's second trip the otherFather Other Father tries to warn her through song, the otherMother Other Mother noticed and was telling him to shut up.



* Just a minor observation: [[spoiler:In the opening cutscene, where the Sweet Ghost Girl's doll gets remade into the Coraline doll;]] the stuffing gets pulled out of the doll, it gets turned inside out, and filled with sand. [[spoiler:When Coraline's other world begins to deteriorate later on, we see that everything appears to actually be made of sand.]] So perhaps, [[spoiler: whatever a person's doll was filled with is the substance their other world ends up being made of.]]

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* Just a minor observation: [[spoiler:In the opening cutscene, where the Sweet Ghost Girl's doll gets remade into the Coraline doll;]] the stuffing gets pulled out of the doll, it gets turned inside out, and filled with sand. [[spoiler:When Coraline's other world Other World begins to deteriorate later on, we see that everything appears to actually be made of sand.]] So perhaps, [[spoiler: whatever a person's doll was filled with is the substance their other world Other World ends up being made of.]]



* In the beginning of the film, Wybie said that the cat would visit him a lot. Considering the cat knows about the other world, it's likely that he does so to protect Wybie from it.

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* In the beginning of the film, Wybie said that the cat would visit him a lot. Considering the cat knows about the other world, Other World, it's likely that he does so to protect Wybie from it.



* Even with all the perks and promises given by the Other Mother, the movie still presents the {{Squick}} of sewing buttons in your eyes as an obvious dealbreaker. Coraline is automatically aghast at the suggestion, raising the question of why 3 other children wouldn't have had the same reaction. Then you remember that the ghost children grew up in completely different eras to Coraline; where sexism, racism, and classism were heavily detrimental to a child's quality of life. Their fantasy worlds wouldn't have just been refuges from negligent parents, but from society as a whole. They would have had far more reason than Coraline to be desperate for a better life, making their fates even more of a TearJerker.

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* Even with all the perks and promises given by the Other Mother, the movie still presents the {{Squick}} of sewing buttons in your eyes as an obvious dealbreaker. Coraline is automatically aghast at the suggestion, raising the question of why 3 three other children wouldn't have had the same reaction. Then you remember that the ghost children grew up in completely different eras to Coraline; where sexism, racism, and classism were heavily detrimental to a child's quality of life. Their fantasy worlds wouldn't have just been refuges from negligent parents, but from society as a whole. They would have had far more reason than Coraline to be desperate for a better life, making their fates even more of a TearJerker.



* The food in the other world that Coraline eats. '''What''' is it made of??

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* The food in the other world Other World that Coraline eats. '''What''' is it made of??



* Being essentially a [[TheFairFolk fae creature]], the other mother may have existed for a [[OlderThanTheyThink long, LONG time]] possibly [[OlderThanDirt before the dawn of civilisation]], stealing children to feed on their souls. That means that there may have been thousands or millions of trapped souls in the other world that wasted away to nothing with nobody to free them. The three children's souls we see are just the latest batch still clinging onto hope. It's also possible that Coraline may have been the first child in history to thwart the Beldam...

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* Being essentially a [[TheFairFolk fae creature]], the other mother Other Mother may have existed for a [[OlderThanTheyThink long, LONG time]] possibly [[OlderThanDirt before the dawn of civilisation]], stealing children to feed on their souls. That means that there may have been thousands or millions of trapped souls in the other world Other World that wasted away to nothing with nobody to free them. The three children's souls we see are just the latest batch still clinging onto hope. It's also possible that Coraline may have been the first child in history to thwart the Beldam...



* Additionally: since the other mother has a mother, she can procreate. But species that procreate are rarely single. There could be ''more'' "other mothers" around...

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* Additionally: since the other mother Other Mother has a mother, she can procreate. But species that procreate are rarely single. There could be ''more'' "other mothers" around...



* The Beldam's world seems to be reserved for children lacking something vital in the real world, such as having an unhappy home life. If Sweet Ghost Girl had an unhappy life, there's two possibles for her sister -- Wybie's grandmother. First, she shared in her sister's misery and was also ensnared by the Beldam, but managed to escape. Second, she was the favorite of their parents who were ether neglectful or abusive to her sister. In short, ether Wybie's grandmother lived through something that cost her her sister, or she believes her own favor with their parents drove her away.

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* The Beldam's world seems to be reserved for children lacking something vital in the real world, such as having an unhappy home life. If Sweet Ghost Girl had an unhappy life, there's two possibles for her sister -- Wybie's grandmother. First, she shared in her sister's misery and was also ensnared by the Beldam, but managed to escape. Second, she was the favorite of their parents who were ether either neglectful or abusive to her sister. In short, ether either Wybie's grandmother lived through something that cost her her sister, or she believes her own favor with their parents drove her away.



* Wybie said that his grandmother, Mrs. Lovat, never rents the Pink Palace to families with children. Why now did she decide to rent it out to a family with a child? Well, Wybie's the same age as Coraline and he loves to wander around, sometimes a little to close to the Pink Palace. Wybie is just a susceptible child as Coraline was to being lured to the Other World. Is it then, out of fear over her kin, she rented out the flat to a family with a kid, to use as a ''scapegoat''?
* Even though Coraline disposed of the key (hopefully for eternity), the other world is still there in the house and only a single locked door away. Coraline will continue to go to bed at night in a room more or less directly above the doorway to a nightmare creature that tried to enslave her. Even if the beldam withered away and died after Coraline's escape, nobody in their right mind should want to remain in the same country, let alone the same house as that door.


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* Wybie said that his grandmother, Mrs. Lovat, never rents the Pink Palace to families with children. Why now did she decide to rent it out to a family with a child? Well, Wybie's the same age as Coraline and he loves to wander around, sometimes a little to too close to the Pink Palace. Wybie is just a susceptible child as Coraline was to being lured to the Other World. Is it then, out of fear over her kin, she rented out the flat to a family with a kid, to use as a ''scapegoat''?
* Even though Coraline disposed of the key (hopefully for eternity), the other world Other World is still there in the house and only a single locked door away. Coraline will continue to go to bed at night in a room more or less directly above the doorway to a nightmare creature that tried to enslave her. Even if the beldam withered away and died after Coraline's escape, nobody in their right mind should want to remain in the same country, let alone the same house as that door.

13th Jan '18 3:20:58 PM nombretomado
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** The "handsome beast" could mean the cat. Although it isn't particularly tall... the voice actor, KeithDavid, certainly is.

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** The "handsome beast" could mean the cat. Although it isn't particularly tall... the voice actor, KeithDavid, Creator/KeithDavid, certainly is.
6th Jan '18 6:01:33 PM camyln
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** FridgeHorror: Perhaps she started to worry that Wybie was around the right age for the Beldam to take interest and wanted another child around to divert her attention.
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