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15th Apr '16 3:16:51 PM thegatorgirl
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. While from Matt's point of view, [[spoiler: Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he had simply gone mad with power, when he didn't even know what had been going on. Except that he feels bad for leaving his side.]]

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. While from Matt's point of view, [[spoiler: Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he had simply gone mad with power, when he didn't even know what had been going on. Except that he feels bad for leaving his side.]]
* Think of the movie from Andrew's mom's perspective. You're so sick you can barely get out of bed and are in pain most days. Your husband drinks away all your money and abuses your son. You can't protect him because of your illness. You're son doesn't have any good friends, so when you die, he'll be alone with the man who abuses him. Suddenly he makes two good friends, [[spoiler: only for one of them to die unexpectedly in a storm. And that's just everything she would know about before she died.
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1st Jun '15 12:12:53 AM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. While from Matt's point of view, [[spoiler: Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he had simply gone mad with power, when he didn't even know what had been going on.]]

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. While from Matt's point of view, [[spoiler: Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he had simply gone mad with power, when he didn't even know what had been going on. Except that he feels bad for leaving his side.]]
3rd May '15 9:01:04 PM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. [[spoiler: While from Matt's point of view, Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he simply went mad with power when he didn't even know what had been going on.]]

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. [[spoiler: While from Matt's point of view, [[spoiler: Andrew wasn't making any sense and thought he had simply went gone mad with power power, when he didn't even know what had been going on.]]
3rd May '15 8:59:34 PM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac.[[spoiler: While in Matt's point of view, he thought Andrew simply snapped, and wasn't making sense with why he tried to kill him in the first place. Since he didn't know what was going on.]]

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac. [[spoiler: While in from Matt's point of view, he thought Andrew simply snapped, and wasn't making any sense and thought he simply went mad with why he tried to kill him in the first place. Since power when he didn't even know what was had been going on.]]
3rd May '15 8:56:47 PM AgentSkyblueM7
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac.

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac.[[spoiler: While in Matt's point of view, he thought Andrew simply snapped, and wasn't making sense with why he tried to kill him in the first place. Since he didn't know what was going on.]]
24th Mar '15 2:39:05 PM Anthurak
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** Also, Matt seems to have his own special talent in the form of defensive barriers, though in a different form than Andrew's. Whereas Andrew's defenses take the form of violent shockwaves that push things away, Matt makes personal forcefields, showcasing how he let's people in close, but is still guarded and cautious. It also shows in his battle with Andrew, where he comes out with barely a scratch despite having a bus dropped on him.
24th Jan '14 12:59:14 PM immortalfrieza
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** It's also possible that after all he's gone through, his father's relentless abuse, Steve's death that he's indirectly responsible for, his mother's death despite his best efforts, and the blinding pain he's no doubt in despite the painkillers, Andrew might [[DeathSeeker WANT someone to kill him.]]
14th Apr '13 5:59:25 PM ExtrovertFederalist
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* The three boys show elements of PersonalityPowers. Andrew, the loner who wants to be stronger and actively pushes people away, develops his telekinesis control faster than the others. Steve, the industrious go-getter, is the first to try moving really big objects and the first to figure out how to fly. Matt wants to be unique, but he's overly cautious and is thus the slowest to develop of the three, but ultimately becomes the most powerful by the end when he takes matters into his own hands.

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* The three boys show elements of PersonalityPowers. Andrew, the loner who wants to be stronger and actively pushes people away, develops his telekinesis control faster than the others.others and is also best at erecting defensive barriers around himself. Steve, the industrious go-getter, is the first to try moving really big objects and the first to figure out how to fly. Matt wants to be unique, but he's overly cautious and is thus the slowest to develop of the three, but ultimately becomes the most powerful by the end when he takes matters into his own hands.
12th Jan '13 6:45:13 PM WarriorEowyn
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* Why does Andrew continue to fight Matt at the end of the film? Stop and consider what Andrew repeats throughout the fight, that he is an Apex Predator. What do most Apex Predators do when they are challenged by another one of their kind? They fight in order to establish ''dominance''. Andrew sees Matts stubborn refusal to get out of his way as challenging him for the role of the ''Alpha male''.

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* Why does Andrew continue to fight Matt at the end of the film? Stop and consider what Andrew repeats throughout the fight, that he is an Apex Predator. What do most Apex Predators do when they are challenged by another one of their kind? They fight in order to establish ''dominance''. Andrew sees Matts Matt's stubborn refusal to get out of his way as challenging him for the role of the ''Alpha male''.
2nd Jan '13 11:47:09 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac.


!!FridgeLogic
* Why the hell did the cops at the hospital set up the (expensive, and identical to Andrew's) camera to film Andrew while he was unconscious? There's already a security camera in the room. Seems like an AssPull to keep a hi-res digital camera close to the main action.
** Or in the confusion, someone put his camera there and accidentally turned it on. Or it was left in the closet or something, and Andrew woke up enough to turn it on by TK.
** The cops put it there and turned it on. When Richard goes in one of them tells him not to disturb the camera because they "need it for their investigation." They probably saw the security footage of the robbery, including apparent TK abilities, or at any rate something unexplainable involving the perpetrator, and if it happens again they need it on record. Hell, more than likely they are involved with some government agency that is aware of the meteor-whatever, who have been following the situation since the cave in.
* The kids [[NotUsingTheZWord never compare themselves]] to, say, [[{{Spiderman}} Peter Parker]] or the ComicBook/FantasticFour, and no one uses the words "superpower" or "superhero". It's next to impossible that the boys, having lived all their lives in America, with normal access to TV, cinema, etc., have no concept of superheroes or have never been exposed to any form of superhero media. Perhaps they simply don't exist on this Earth?
** Maybe they just don't pay much attention to comics and the like. Andrew's a shut-in, Steve's probably preoccupied with his school work, student government campaign, and football practice, and we don't know Matt's hobbies.
** It does raise a similar question: why no references to StarWars beyond the red lightsaber toy? You think they would relish the idea of comparing themselves to Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader, and the story does pretty parallel Yoda's speech about fear leading to suffering. [[ExecutiveMeddling Maybe they weren't allowed to make too many outside references to avoid legal attention?]]
** Don't they put on Star Wars music while force-lifting the Legos?
* What was Andrew doing in the time between [[spoiler: blowing up the hospital room and trying to throw his father out? There was enough time for the news crews to begin filming and broadcasting it and Matt driving to downtown Seattle from the suburbs, getting around several police roadblock already in place.]] That must have taken Matt an hour at least, when you'd expect Andrew to do his thing in seconds.
** Well, It is down town, so the news crews could have already been there. Maybe (its possible there was a slow news day) they were reporting on Andrew's earlier robbery. As for Matt, we don't know where his girlfriend's house was in relation to the hospital, or when his nose started to bleed. its possible it started before Andrew's father arrived. Some of the scenes are probably out of exact order so they would make sense to the viewer.
** It seems that the explosion happened while Andrew was unconscious. It could be that, for a while, he was still out of it. Only when the noises of the sirens and helicopters grew (or Matt arriving on the scene) did he wake up. He then saw his father lying next to him, flew into a rage and zipped out the hole in the side of the building.
** Actually, you clearly see Andrew's eyes opening a second before the explosion; plus, he grabbed his dad's fist in mid-swing. However, it's possible that Andrew got around to doing quite a bit before Matt arrived; first of all, assuming the blast didn't kill them, he'd have had to take care of the cops that were guarding his room; then he'd have to keep the nurses and other hospital staff from interfering; then, his dad might have tried to make a run for it (assuming he was able to do so, under the circumstances) meaning that Andrew would have had to chase him through the corridors; finally, Andrew may have been in a bad enough mood to torture his dad before he decided to kill him- we don't exactly see the full extent of his injuries once Matt rescues him. Also, Andrew was badly injured and disoriented from painkillers, so that might have slowed him down a good bit.
** If you look closely at Richard as Matt brings him to the ground after saving him, Richard appears to have a severe head injury of some kind. The implication being that Andrew did indeed physically assault him before trying to kill him.

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* Matthew was not made aware of his uncle's [[spoiler: abusive behavior]] towards his cousin before [[spoiler: having to kill Andrew]]. It is possible [[spoiler: Andrew viewed Matt's rescue as support of his uncle's abuse]]. Such a gross betrayal ''on top of everything else Andrew had been through'' might turn anybody into an OmnicidalManiac.


!!FridgeLogic
* Why the hell did the cops at the hospital set up the (expensive, and identical to Andrew's) camera to film Andrew while he was unconscious? There's already a security camera in the room. Seems like an AssPull to keep a hi-res digital camera close to the main action.
** Or in the confusion, someone put his camera there and accidentally turned it on. Or it was left in the closet or something, and Andrew woke up enough to turn it on by TK.
** The cops put it there and turned it on. When Richard goes in one of them tells him not to disturb the camera because they "need it for their investigation." They probably saw the security footage of the robbery, including apparent TK abilities, or at any rate something unexplainable involving the perpetrator, and if it happens again they need it on record. Hell, more than likely they are involved with some government agency that is aware of the meteor-whatever, who have been following the situation since the cave in.
* The kids [[NotUsingTheZWord never compare themselves]] to, say, [[{{Spiderman}} Peter Parker]] or the ComicBook/FantasticFour, and no one uses the words "superpower" or "superhero". It's next to impossible that the boys, having lived all their lives in America, with normal access to TV, cinema, etc., have no concept of superheroes or have never been exposed to any form of superhero media. Perhaps they simply don't exist on this Earth?
** Maybe they just don't pay much attention to comics and the like. Andrew's a shut-in, Steve's probably preoccupied with his school work, student government campaign, and football practice, and we don't know Matt's hobbies.
** It does raise a similar question: why no references to StarWars beyond the red lightsaber toy? You think they would relish the idea of comparing themselves to Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader, and the story does pretty parallel Yoda's speech about fear leading to suffering. [[ExecutiveMeddling Maybe they weren't allowed to make too many outside references to avoid legal attention?]]
** Don't they put on Star Wars music while force-lifting the Legos?
* What was Andrew doing in the time between [[spoiler: blowing up the hospital room and trying to throw his father out? There was enough time for the news crews to begin filming and broadcasting it and Matt driving to downtown Seattle from the suburbs, getting around several police roadblock already in place.]] That must have taken Matt an hour at least, when you'd expect Andrew to do his thing in seconds.
** Well, It is down town, so the news crews could have already been there. Maybe (its possible there was a slow news day) they were reporting on Andrew's earlier robbery. As for Matt, we don't know where his girlfriend's house was in relation to the hospital, or when his nose started to bleed. its possible it started before Andrew's father arrived. Some of the scenes are probably out of exact order so they would make sense to the viewer.
** It seems that the explosion happened while Andrew was unconscious. It could be that, for a while, he was still out of it. Only when the noises of the sirens and helicopters grew (or Matt arriving on the scene) did he wake up. He then saw his father lying next to him, flew into a rage and zipped out the hole in the side of the building.
** Actually, you clearly see Andrew's eyes opening a second before the explosion; plus, he grabbed his dad's fist in mid-swing. However, it's possible that Andrew got around to doing quite a bit before Matt arrived; first of all, assuming the blast didn't kill them, he'd have had to take care of the cops that were guarding his room; then he'd have to keep the nurses and other hospital staff from interfering; then, his dad might have tried to make a run for it (assuming he was able to do so, under the circumstances) meaning that Andrew would have had to chase him through the corridors; finally, Andrew may have been in a bad enough mood to torture his dad before he decided to kill him- we don't exactly see the full extent of his injuries once Matt rescues him. Also, Andrew was badly injured and disoriented from painkillers, so that might have slowed him down a good bit.
** If you look closely at Richard as Matt brings him to the ground after saving him, Richard appears to have a severe head injury of some kind. The implication being that Andrew did indeed physically assault him before trying to kill him.
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