History Fridge / BlazBlue

14th Sep '17 7:23:38 PM LucianTheLugia
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* Who would've thought that the character select screens themselves would also contain some brilliant positioning? Not only are some characters fittingly mirroring one another (i.e. Tsubaki and Hakumen in ''Chronophantasma'') but the mere shape of the screens is just plain fitting to each game.
** ''Calamity Trigger:'' A circle with a hollow center. The "Wheel of Fate."
** ''Continuum Shift:'' On console it follows the similar "Wheel of Fate" shape, with Mu being in the center. Download Makoto, Valkenhayn, and Platinum, and the screen looks more like the cocoon featured in Mu's stage. ''Extend'' puts Relius in the center too, but the shape still retains.
** ''Chronophantasma:'' Breaks away from the Wheel motif because the loop has long been broken at this point. This time around, the shape of the select screen resembles the crest of Amaterasu.
** ''Central Fiction:'' The select screen resembles a shield, or more likely, a door, specifically the door to the inside of the Master Unit.
18th Jun '17 11:54:43 AM nombretomado
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* Most people who have played ''VideoGame/{{BlazBlue}}'' and watched ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' will know that Jin and Simon have the same Japanese voice actor. It had already occurred to me [[PlayingAgainstType how vastly different these two roles are]], but what really hit me was the realization that they're ''literally polar opposites''. Simon is a HotBlooded badass, and Jin spends a good portion of the series as [[EvilIsDeathlyCold a cold-hearted]] {{Jerkass}}! --Tropers/CrazedNinja
* In a "Teach Me, Miss Litchi!" segment of VideoGame/BlazBlue, Taokaka reacts to being described as a different species from that of humans with this quote: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eD089eawdY "So I'm special!?" (@ 6:14)]]. At the time, I didn't pay this remark that much mind; it seemed pretty ordinary, if not completely unnecessary statement. It took me another watch for me to realize that Tao was connecting the words species and special (maybe not on purpose, but I saw the connection), bringing up something I had never thought about before. I felt like an idiot right then; I could imagine Taokaka in a scholarly hat looking down on me and teaching me this somewhat useless, but "what-should-have-been-obvious" fact: "Species and special, as words, are close to each other in meaning and basic construction from Latin, nyasu~". That lovable dimwit of a cat girl ACTUALLY taught me something new... Teach Me, Miss Taokaka!

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* Most people who have played ''VideoGame/{{BlazBlue}}'' ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' and watched ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' will know that Jin and Simon have the same Japanese voice actor. It had already occurred to me [[PlayingAgainstType how vastly different these two roles are]], but what really hit me was the realization that they're ''literally polar opposites''. Simon is a HotBlooded badass, and Jin spends a good portion of the series as [[EvilIsDeathlyCold a cold-hearted]] {{Jerkass}}! --Tropers/CrazedNinja
* In a "Teach Me, Miss Litchi!" segment of VideoGame/BlazBlue, ''Franchise/BlazBlue'', Taokaka reacts to being described as a different species from that of humans with this quote: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eD089eawdY "So I'm special!?" (@ 6:14)]]. At the time, I didn't pay this remark that much mind; it seemed pretty ordinary, if not completely unnecessary statement. It took me another watch for me to realize that Tao was connecting the words species and special (maybe not on purpose, but I saw the connection), bringing up something I had never thought about before. I felt like an idiot right then; I could imagine Taokaka in a scholarly hat looking down on me and teaching me this somewhat useless, but "what-should-have-been-obvious" fact: "Species and special, as words, are close to each other in meaning and basic construction from Latin, nyasu~". That lovable dimwit of a cat girl ACTUALLY taught me something new... Teach Me, Miss Taokaka!



* How many times have children's stories been revised over the ages? As kids, we witness events as they are told to us with a literal mind and form opinions based on what we view. As adults, sometimes we look back on those early opinions and try to see them in a different light, to understand how things happened and why, and it changes our view of the story overall. So what does this have to do with VideoGame/BlazBlue? ''Slight Hope'' created a lot of controversy within the fandom and sorely fractured Makoto's fanbase. Zealots on both sides act on what they see on the surface and shill or bash her accordingly, the latter going so far as to call her a CreatorsPet despite the fact we're still only two chapters in and she's been significantly active in a mere fragment of one. Everyone thinks of her birthdate of April 2nd as "the day after April Fools' Day", but in reality Mori slipped a very vital warning sign beneath our noses. For those of us who research the story and figure out why those events transpired, the significance is even clearer - Makoto's birthday is ''International Children's Book Day''.

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* How many times have children's stories been revised over the ages? As kids, we witness events as they are told to us with a literal mind and form opinions based on what we view. As adults, sometimes we look back on those early opinions and try to see them in a different light, to understand how things happened and why, and it changes our view of the story overall. So what does this have to do with VideoGame/BlazBlue? ''Franchise/BlazBlue''? ''Slight Hope'' created a lot of controversy within the fandom and sorely fractured Makoto's fanbase. Zealots on both sides act on what they see on the surface and shill or bash her accordingly, the latter going so far as to call her a CreatorsPet despite the fact we're still only two chapters in and she's been significantly active in a mere fragment of one. Everyone thinks of her birthdate of April 2nd as "the day after April Fools' Day", but in reality Mori slipped a very vital warning sign beneath our noses. For those of us who research the story and figure out why those events transpired, the significance is even clearer - Makoto's birthday is ''International Children's Book Day''.



* The trend continues in Es's trailer where she fights Ragna, Naoto, Nine and Celica, all of whom share an important connection with her. She and Ragna are the "two Azures" and her mission is to guide him to the Azure Gate, both she and Naoto are [[spoiler:from [[AlternateUniverse alternate "Possibilities"]] separate from the main BlazBlue timeline]], and Nine and Celica are [[spoiler: the older versions of Watashi and Imouto, who Es became close friends with when she was Nobody]].

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* The trend continues in Es's trailer where she fights Ragna, Naoto, Nine and Celica, all of whom share an important connection with her. She and Ragna are the "two Azures" and her mission is to guide him to the Azure Gate, both she and Naoto are [[spoiler:from [[AlternateUniverse alternate "Possibilities"]] separate from the main BlazBlue ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' timeline]], and Nine and Celica are [[spoiler: the older versions of Watashi and Imouto, who Es became close friends with when she was Nobody]].
28th Apr '17 1:12:49 AM Delnoir
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* How did Hakumen [[spoiler: survive what seemed to be a quite decisive death at the hands of Terumi?]] Simple! [[spoiler: Kokonoe failed to pulled out of the boundary properly to begin with leaving him at 20% of his full power! Meaning the other 80% of his soul that wasn't pulled out was still there when he came close enough to a cauldron to regain contact with it.]]
21st Apr '17 11:48:43 AM Ogiga99
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* [[spoiler: In the ending of ''CF'', Ragna erases all memories of his existence by returning to the Master Unit as he is the Central Fiction. Now think back to Nine's rant about how The Master Unit doesn't give a damn about people like her. It may sound like typical nihilist rant, but if you replace Master Unit with "author", Central Fiction with "CreatorsPet" suddenly everything makes sense. The story of Blazblue is the deconstruction of TheProtagonist trope!! Nine is actually ranting about how she and her sister Celica are nothing but supporting characters for the main plot, meaning that they are pretty much fodder in the eyes of the author. She went into the Boundary and found out that she is a supporting character that gets killed off and her family is that way because the author makes it that way for drama while Ragna realized that as long he exists, [[BlackHoleSue all the other characters just be in supporting roles and cannot move forward]]. Is it any wonder Nine is the way she is and why Ragna wants to erase himself from existence?]]

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* [[spoiler: In the ending of ''CF'', Ragna erases all memories of his existence by returning to the Master Unit as he is the Central Fiction. Now think back to Nine's rant about how The Master Unit doesn't give a damn about people like her. It may sound like typical nihilist rant, but if you replace Master Unit with "author", Central Fiction with "CreatorsPet" suddenly everything makes sense. The story of Blazblue is the deconstruction of TheProtagonist trope!! Nine is actually ranting about how she and her sister Celica are nothing but supporting characters for the main plot, meaning that they are pretty much fodder in the eyes of the author. She went into the Boundary and found out that she is a supporting character that gets killed off and her family is that way because the author makes it that way for drama while Ragna realized that as long he exists, [[BlackHoleSue all the other characters just be in supporting roles and cannot move forward]]. Is it any wonder Nine is the way she is and why Ragna wants to erase himself from existence?]]




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* If you observe Izanami's trailer closely, you'll realize that Jin is the main target of her brutal combos and her terrifying Exceed Accel. While it could just be Izanami demonstrating her attacks, who's to say that it also isn't Saya giving Jin some divine retribution for his bullying when they were younger?
* Likewise, in Nine's trailer, she successfully manages to use her Astral Heat on Terumi, perhaps as revenge for killing her previously.
* The trend continues in Es's trailer where she fights Ragna, Naoto, Nine and Celica, all of whom share an important connection with her. She and Ragna are the "two Azures" and her mission is to guide him to the Azure Gate, both she and Naoto are [[spoiler:from [[AlternateUniverse alternate "Possibilities"]] separate from the main BlazBlue timeline]], and Nine and Celica are [[spoiler: the older versions of Watashi and Imouto, who Es became close friends with when she was Nobody]].



* Consider the plight of Nu post epilogue: She's bed bound in the convent her sisters run after been physically mangled by Hakumen to the point of complete incapacitation, her right (Azure Grimoire) eye is bandaged over [[EyeScream (so in all likelihood gone)]], and Ragna, her object of obsession and sole raison d'être, no longer exists and erased any trace of his existence from her mind. All adding up to possibly spending the rest of her maybe-immortal existence as a complete vegetable, or at very least someone who in her own mind has absolutely no reason for living. That's pretty much the worst that could happen to her, [[LaserGuidedKarma for better]] or worse.

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* Consider the plight of Nu post epilogue: She's bed bound in the convent her sisters run after been physically mangled by Hakumen to the point of complete incapacitation, her right (Azure Grimoire) eye is bandaged over [[EyeScream (so in all likelihood gone)]], and Ragna, her object of obsession and sole raison d'être, no longer exists and erased any trace of his existence from her mind. All adding up to possibly spending the rest of her maybe-immortal existence as a complete vegetable, or at very least someone who in her own mind has absolutely no reason for living. That's pretty much the worst that could happen to her, [[LaserGuidedKarma for better]] or worse.worse.
* [[spoiler: In Hibiki's Act 1 arcade mode, it's revealed that Hibiki secretly desires to kill Kagura and become a truly emotionless killer and he becomes progressively more insane and homicidal in Act 3. That begs the question: ''has he made an attempt on Kagura's life before?'']]
** [[spoiler:Considering how Kagura has been shown to act when he's not serious, it's unlikely. If he truly wanted to, there would've been a massive amount of opportunities.]]
2nd Apr '17 12:59:20 PM nombretomado
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** This gets a lot more sense if you're familiar with {{Persona 3}}. Basically, Litchi killing Arakune would be akin of [[spoiler:the Main Character killing Ryoji: The inevitable (either Litchi's corruption or The Fall) will just be delayed, not stopped, and those who could stop it had their memories erased and blissfully unaware that the doom is surely to come, even if it's delayed only a little. Both Arakune and Ryoji probably meant well, [[LetThemDieHappy letting their friends die their inevitable deaths in happiness rather than in doubts]], but for someone who prefers living, that'd be a nightmare or a downer on epic proportions, especially when Litchi knows there are people who'd be sad if she dies.]] If that event in {{Persona 3}} is considered DownerEnding, then Litchi's Bad End is definitely one as well.

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** This gets a lot more sense if you're familiar with {{Persona 3}}.''VideoGame/Persona3''. Basically, Litchi killing Arakune would be akin of [[spoiler:the Main Character killing Ryoji: The inevitable (either Litchi's corruption or The Fall) will just be delayed, not stopped, and those who could stop it had their memories erased and blissfully unaware that the doom is surely to come, even if it's delayed only a little. Both Arakune and Ryoji probably meant well, [[LetThemDieHappy letting their friends die their inevitable deaths in happiness rather than in doubts]], but for someone who prefers living, that'd be a nightmare or a downer on epic proportions, especially when Litchi knows there are people who'd be sad if she dies.]] If that event in {{Persona 3}} ''VideoGame/Persona3'' is considered DownerEnding, then Litchi's Bad End is definitely one as well.
13th Feb '17 7:05:01 PM HyoukaForEternity
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** Aside from the obvious fact that death goddess Izanami's moves incorporate a lot of skeletal and ghostly imagery, she also has one move that surrounds her with a barrier, demonstrating the futulity in trying to kill death, as well as one command throw that allows her to drain both the opponent's life and barrier guage, serving as a reminder that, well, she is death: Everything that keeps the living alive progressively becomes her domain. She also has two distortions that allow her to stop time, tying in to how death is an absence of time to the living. Finally, there's the fact that she's a DanceBattler, but what dance is her fighting style based upon? Shiva's Tandava: The dance with which Shiva ends the universe. Which, incidentally, is ultimately Izanami's goal.

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** Aside from the obvious fact that death goddess Izanami's moves incorporate a lot of skeletal and ghostly imagery, she also has one move that surrounds her with a barrier, demonstrating the futulity futility in trying to kill death, as well as one a command throw that allows her to drain both the opponent's life and barrier guage, gauge, serving as a reminder that, well, she is death: death. Everything that keeps the living alive progressively becomes her domain. She also has two distortions that allow her to stop time, tying in to how death is an absence of time to the living. Finally, there's the fact that she's a DanceBattler, but what her dance is her fighting style is specifically based upon? off of Shiva's Tandava: The the dance with which Shiva ends the universe. Which, incidentally, Incidentally, that is ultimately Izanami's goal.


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** Mai attacks foes using her weapon, the Gallia Sphyra: Outseal, which also has the innate ability to automatically teach its wielder how to use it. Coincidentally, Mai is designed to be [[SkillGateCharacter easy to pick up for beginners]] with her Variable Arts providing simple yet powerful combos and her Drive being easy to use in comparison to the rest of the cast. Mai's low learning curve makes it so that, much like with Mai using the Outseal, anyone can be an InstantExpert at using her.
22nd Dec '16 12:23:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Most people who have played ''VideoGame/{{BlazBlue}}'' and watched ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' will know that Jin and Simon have the same Japanese voice actor. It had already occurred to me [[PlayingAgainstType how vastly different these two roles are]], but what really hit me was the realization that they're ''literally polar opposites''. Simon is a HotBlooded {{Badass}}, and Jin spends a good portion of the series as [[EvilIsDeathlyCold a cold-hearted]] {{Jerkass}}! --Tropers/CrazedNinja

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* Most people who have played ''VideoGame/{{BlazBlue}}'' and watched ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' will know that Jin and Simon have the same Japanese voice actor. It had already occurred to me [[PlayingAgainstType how vastly different these two roles are]], but what really hit me was the realization that they're ''literally polar opposites''. Simon is a HotBlooded {{Badass}}, badass, and Jin spends a good portion of the series as [[EvilIsDeathlyCold a cold-hearted]] {{Jerkass}}! --Tropers/CrazedNinja
18th Dec '16 8:09:34 AM Getta
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** Nu's fighting style displays her as the sword-dispensing proper Murakumo Unit with a hidden [[{{Yandere}} sadistic streak especially for Ragna]]. Lambda, meanwhile, only has an imitation of the Murakumo and thus is unable to show its full potential, so she has some original moves to compensate. Mu, however, has the upgraded Murakumo, dubbed "Kusanagi", which makes her capable of using the True Azure in her attacks and thus has more potential of destruction. Her attacks are also more calculated and tactical as opposed to Noel's more flashy attacks, showing great contrast between the two halves of the same person.



*** As Izayoi, she instead copies Jin (her other idol)'s attacks (like the directional quick slashes and the sword projectile) and combines it with Murakumo Unit's tactics (more refined FlashStep, launching big swords and uses sword-esque drones) due to Zero-type Izayoi being the Murakumo prototype.



** Bullet is a rather aggresive person who prefers settling things quickly, and as such her Drive moves her towards her opponent to attack, which also powers her up if successfully done. The fiery effect also shows her hotheaded personality.



** Tsubaki dislikes war - given what it did to [[LoveInterest her precious "Jinny"]], one can hardly blame her. There may be other reasons beyond this.

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** Tsubaki dislikes war - given what it did to [[LoveInterest her precious "Jinny"]], one can hardly blame her. There may ''CF'' also reveals her desire to be other reasons beyond this."a world where the Dark War didn't exist and everything's better".



** Bullet dislikes miniskirts and prefers wearing pants. As she was practically raised as a mercenary with most of its member being male, it's implied that their habits rubbed off on her.



** Celica has "nothing" listed as her dislike because she's an AllLovingHero who cares for people.



** Izanami's dislike is Ragna the Bloodedge due to her vessel's lingering feelings towards him and her struggle to control her body.

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** Izanami's dislike is Ragna the Bloodedge due to her vessel's lingering feelings towards him and her struggle to control her body. [[spoiler:She's also implied to know what Ragna is, i.e "the Central Fiction", and Amaterasu's manipulation - which screws the world up - revolves around him alone, which gives her a reason to hate Ragna.]]
18th Dec '16 6:23:23 AM Getta
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* The reveals put the partnership between Terumi & Izanami in a new light. [[spoiler:Terumi and Relius tortured Saya in order to try to break her soul. They sort of succeeded, with half staying in Saya and becoming Izanami and the other hitching a ride on Mu-12 and becoming Noel. Furthermore, Izanami is in part a facet of Master Unit Amaterasu. Terumi ''is'' Susanō'o, who exists to destroy what Amaterasu creates. The two ''hate each other at the most fundamental level''. In addition, their end goals are mutually exclusive; she wants to KillEmAll, he needs people alive to fear him to survive, so in retrospect they have absolutely no reason to work together.]]




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** That scene is made to be ambiguous and context-lacking, anyway. Likely being saved for a new game.



* When [[spoiler:Susanoo flattens Ragna, Jin, Noel, Izayoi and Jubei without any effort, Ragna states that he is even stronger than [[WorldsStrongestMan Azr]][[TheDreaded ael]]. It's actually not hyperbole. Aside from the [[PhysicalGod obvious]], if you take the game stats into account with the story, Azrael when played is only 1/8 of is strength therefore approximately 11000-12000 times 8 = 88000-96000 when at full power. As for Susanoo, remember that Unlimited Hakumen is operating at 20% power at best with 20000 health. Therefore, since Terumi is using the Susanoo Unit at full 100% capacity, it's suffice to say that his actual in-story health is actually 20000 times 5 = '''100000'''. So, in both the logic of the game and story, Susanoo is really stronger than Azrael.]]
* [[spoiler: In the ending of ''CF'', Ragna erases all memories of his existence by returning to the Master Unit as he is the Central Fiction. Now think back to Nine rant about how The Master Unit doesn't give a damn about people like her. It may sound like typical nihilist rant, but if you replace Master Unit with "author", Central Fiction with "CreatorsPet" suddenly everything makes sense. The story of Blazblue is the deconstruction of TheProtagonist trope!! Nine is actually ranting about how she and her sister Celica are nothing but supporting characters for the main plot, meaning that they are pretty much fodder in the eyes of the author. She went into the Boundary and found out that she is a supporting character that gets killed off and her family is that way because the author makes it that way for drama while Ragna realized that as long he exists, [[BlackHoleSue all the other characters just be in supporting roles and cannot move forward]]. Is it any wonder Nine is the way she is and why Ragna wants to erase himself from existence?]]

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* When [[spoiler:Susanoo flattens Ragna, Jin, Noel, Izayoi and Jubei without any effort, Ragna states that he is even stronger than [[WorldsStrongestMan Azr]][[TheDreaded ael]]. It's actually not hyperbole. Aside from the [[PhysicalGod obvious]], if you take the game stats into account with the story, Azrael when played is only 1/8 of is strength therefore approximately 11000-12000 times 8 = 88000-96000 when at full power. As for Susanoo, remember that Unlimited Hakumen is operating at 20% power at best with 20000 health. Therefore, since Terumi is using the Susanoo Unit at full 100% capacity, it's suffice to say that his actual in-story health is actually 20000 times 5 = '''100000'''. So, in both the logic of the game and story, Susanoo is really stronger than Azrael.]]
* [[spoiler: In the ending of ''CF'', Ragna erases all memories of his existence by returning to the Master Unit as he is the Central Fiction. Now think back to Nine Nine's rant about how The Master Unit doesn't give a damn about people like her. It may sound like typical nihilist rant, but if you replace Master Unit with "author", Central Fiction with "CreatorsPet" suddenly everything makes sense. The story of Blazblue is the deconstruction of TheProtagonist trope!! Nine is actually ranting about how she and her sister Celica are nothing but supporting characters for the main plot, meaning that they are pretty much fodder in the eyes of the author. She went into the Boundary and found out that she is a supporting character that gets killed off and her family is that way because the author makes it that way for drama while Ragna realized that as long he exists, [[BlackHoleSue all the other characters just be in supporting roles and cannot move forward]]. Is it any wonder Nine is the way she is and why Ragna wants to erase himself from existence?]]
* The reveals put the partnership between Terumi & Izanami in a new light. [[spoiler:Terumi and Relius tortured Saya in order to try to break her soul. They sort of succeeded, with half staying in Saya and becoming Izanami and the other hitching a ride on Mu-12 and becoming Noel. Furthermore, Izanami is in part a facet of Master Unit Amaterasu. Terumi ''is'' Susanō'o, who exists to destroy what Amaterasu creates. Despite the similar goals, the two ''hate each other at the most fundamental level''.]]



* Consider the plight of Nu post epilogue: She's bed bound in the convent her sisters run after been physically mangled by Hakumen to the point of complete incapacitation, her right (Azure Grimoire) eye is bandaged over [[EyeScream (so in all likelihood gone)]], and Ragna, her object of obsession and sole raison d'être, no longer exists and erased any trace of his existence from her mind. All adding up to possibly spending the rest of her maybe-immortal existence as a complete vegetable, or at very least someone who in her own mind has absolutely no reason for living. [[LaserGuidedKarma Unless you think she deserved it.]]

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* Consider the plight of Nu post epilogue: She's bed bound in the convent her sisters run after been physically mangled by Hakumen to the point of complete incapacitation, her right (Azure Grimoire) eye is bandaged over [[EyeScream (so in all likelihood gone)]], and Ragna, her object of obsession and sole raison d'être, no longer exists and erased any trace of his existence from her mind. All adding up to possibly spending the rest of her maybe-immortal existence as a complete vegetable, or at very least someone who in her own mind has absolutely no reason for living. That's pretty much the worst that could happen to her, [[LaserGuidedKarma Unless you think she deserved it.]]for better]] or worse.
11th Dec '16 5:31:26 PM Shivader
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* When [[spoiler:Susanoo flattens Ragna, Jin, Noel, Izayoi and Jubei without any effort, Ragna states that he is even stronger than [[WorldsStrongestMan Azr]][[TheDreaded ael]]. It's actually not hyperbole. Aside from the [[PhysicalGod obvious]], if you take the game stats into account with the story, Azrael when played is only 1/8 of is strength therefore approximately 11000-12000 times 8 = 88000-96000 when at full power. As for Susanoo, remember that Unlimited Hakumen is operating at 20% power at best with 20000 health. Therefore, since Terumi is using the Susanoo Unit at full 100% capacity, it's suffice to say that his actual in-story health is actually 20000 times 5 = '''100000'''. So, in both the logic of the game and story, Susanoo is really stronger than Azrael.]]
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