History Fridge / BeautyAndTheBeast

4th Dec '17 7:46:50 PM rememberthehood1941
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* Why does the Beast look concerned for Maurice when Belle sees him dying in the mirror? Given the time of period that has passed (the movie starts in autumn and ends at the beginning of spring) and how close they've become, chances are very good that the Beast and Belle did talk about her father at least once and the Beast would know how close the two of them are. His concern for Maurice is a reflection of his concern for Belle.

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* Why does the Beast look so concerned for Maurice when Belle sees him dying in the mirror? Given the time of period that has passed (the movie starts in autumn and ends at the beginning of spring) and how close they've become, chances are very good that the Beast and Belle did talk about her father at least once and the Beast would know how close the two of them are. His concern It also stands to reason that the Beast has grown to care for Maurice...and the Beast is aware that it's his fault that Maurice is a reflection of his concern for Belle.in the situation he's in.
30th Nov '17 5:09:41 PM fruitstripegum
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* I just realized an extra level or cruelty in the Enchantress's curse: his only window to he outside world is a magic mirror that will show him anything he wants, but in order to use it he has to look into it, seeing his reflection first. The Beast destroyed every other mirror in the West Wing so he doesn't ''have to'' look at himself. Every time he uses the mirror he has to confront what he's become.

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* I just realized an extra level or cruelty in the Enchantress's curse: his only window to he the outside world is a magic mirror that will show him anything he wants, but in order to use it he has to look into it, seeing his reflection first. The Beast destroyed every other mirror in the West Wing so he doesn't ''have to'' look at himself. Every time he uses the mirror he has to confront what he's become.
30th Nov '17 3:06:03 PM ChaosHeart77
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* More of a meta example: Belle is her town's resident bookworm. Belle's voice actress is Paige (page, [[DontExplainTheJoke as in a book]]) O'Hara.
2nd Nov '17 5:30:32 PM Sharlee
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** Well, maybe Disney will adapt ''Literature/TheScarletPimpernel'' in a few years and give Belle and Adam cameos among the people whom the hero brings safely to England.
1st Nov '17 7:23:49 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** Plus Belle's family is rich. She doesn't need to have a job and has the money and liesure time to spend all day reading.
27th Oct '17 11:22:08 PM Historian1912
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** 'Cracked' articles should honestly be taken with enough salt to result in mummification. If the villagers aren't too freaked out to go back on their own to the castle, they're going to be running into armed, angry soldiers defending a fortified position with purpose-built melee weapons (assuming there aren't more modern weapons in the castle in good condition, such as muskets). Said soldiers would be the ones that got turned into suites of armor (seen during Belle's tour of the castle and during the clean-up sequence in "Human Again"). Having just been returned to normal, they're not going to take too kindly to their home being invaded a second time by the same mob. If the villagers go get help from other villages, they're going to run into the same soldiers armed and ready for trouble along with the prince. With everything looking normal, the people from the other villages are going to depart thinking the original village is full of crazy people.



* So the Beast let Belle go, because he loves her, how romantic. Except for, uhm the hundreds of other lives in the balance. If Belle hadn't come back then what would have stopped them from turning against their master in anger now that all hope was gone, much like the Village had done against Belle?

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* So the Beast let Belle go, because he loves her, how romantic. Except for, uhm um, the hundreds of other lives in the balance. If Belle hadn't come back then what would have stopped them from turning against their master in anger now that all hope was gone, much like the Village had done against Belle?
12th Aug '17 11:27:42 AM LiveInTheMind
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***And maybe the reason she went to touch the rose wasn't because of curiosity, but because she thought it would break the curse on the castle.
3rd Aug '17 11:59:21 AM EmpressMatilda
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** Not to mention, before reliable transportation, hospitality was an incredibly important thing, especially in more rural and remote areas, like the heavily forested castle. In these days, it would be absolutely unthinkable to turn away a guest.
29th Jul '17 10:31:05 PM NOYB
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** They were turned into what the were using or love, they probably just merged with the already standing appliance and when the curse was broken everything turned back to normal and the tools were restored. Think about how the outside of the castle also changed to show everything was truly back to the way it was before.
* Does the Beast really deserve his punishment? Sure, let's be clear -- as we see from the sequel, he ''is'' an absolute douchebag, but he's a teen and its either douchebaggery or angst. But the first thing parents do -- hell, even the servants would do it if they raised him -- is to tell him "don't let people in, they could try and kill you or poison you or have the plague and infect and kill us all!" so in sending her away, the Beast is ''not'' being a douchebag; he's ''protecting everyone else in the castle from plague, poison or a possible killer'' and the Enchantress curses him because he turned her away (not knowing she was an enchantress) and because she could. And, ironically, the servants ''were'' right; she ''did'' poison them -- with her curse, which led to ''him'' dying and, eventually, ''them'' dying as inanimate objects forever.

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** They were turned into what the they were using or love, love; they probably just merged with the already standing already-standing appliance and when the curse was broken everything turned back to normal and the tools were restored. Think about how the outside of the castle also changed to show everything was truly back to the way it was before.
* Does the Beast really deserve his punishment? Sure, let's be clear -- as we see from the sequel, he ''is'' an absolute douchebag, but he's a teen and its it's either douchebaggery or angst. But the first thing parents do -- hell, even the servants would do it if they raised him -- is to tell him "don't let people in, they could try and kill you or poison you or have the plague and infect and kill us all!" so in sending her away, the Beast is ''not'' being a douchebag; he's ''protecting everyone else in the castle from plague, poison or a possible killer'' and the Enchantress curses him because he turned her away (not knowing she was an enchantress) and because she could. And, ironically, the servants ''were'' right; she ''did'' poison them -- with her curse, which led to ''him'' dying and, eventually, ''them'' dying as inanimate objects forever.forever.
** That wasn't his motivation, and she looked like a harmless old woman who would surely have died of exposure if turned away.




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** The live-action adaptation explains this with forgetting being part of the curse.
29th Jul '17 10:27:52 PM NOYB
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** That's assuming the story is set shortly before the French Revolution. If its set in, say, the early 1700s there won't be anything to worry about for a long time. And if you take Belle's cameo in Hunchback of Notre Dame as cannon then it averts that particular horror completely.

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** That's assuming the story is set shortly before the French Revolution. If its set in, say, the early 1700s there won't be anything to worry about for a long time. And if you take Belle's cameo in Hunchback of Notre Dame as cannon canon then it averts that particular horror completely.



** Or simpler still the curse hasn't lasted a Decade, but just a couple years.

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** Or simpler still still, the curse hasn't lasted a Decade, but just a couple years.



* All the furniture is alive, they are transformed humans. The beast sometimes starts breaking stuff when he is angry. The West Wing is filled with broken furniture (hopefully the living ones vacated the premises whenever he had a tantrum... ''hopefully''.) All the furniture in Belle's ''bedroom'' (in addition to the wardrobe) [[ParanoiaFuel is probably alive.]]

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* All the furniture is alive, they are transformed humans. The beast Beast sometimes starts breaking stuff when he is angry. The West Wing is filled with broken furniture (hopefully the living ones vacated the premises whenever he had a tantrum... ''hopefully''.) All the furniture in Belle's ''bedroom'' (in addition to the wardrobe) [[ParanoiaFuel is probably alive.]]



*** [[ValuesDissonance At that time in history, the only reason she had a choice was because her father let her, and anything a man did to his wife couldn't be considered rape. Let us remember that, in times long passed, women were more or less pieces of property. Women like Belle ended up married to men like Gaston all the time.]]

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*** [[ValuesDissonance At that time in history, the only reason she had a choice was because her father let her, and anything a man did to his wife couldn't be considered rape. Let us remember that, in times long passed, past, women were more or less pieces of property. Women like Belle ended up married to men like Gaston all the time.]]



*** There would have been inanimate objects in the castle before the curse, including the unmentionable stuff. The bathtub and the dining room table weren't enchanted, for example. besides, Belle and the Beast would be the only two inhabitants of the castle who would have to deal with that sort of thing while the curse was in effect.

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*** There would have been inanimate objects in the castle before the curse, including the unmentionable stuff. The bathtub and the dining room table weren't enchanted, for example. besides, Besides, Belle and the Beast would be the only two inhabitants of the castle who would have to deal with that sort of thing while the curse was in effect.



** If the castle's staff was transformed into the object they were using and considering that, at this time, people crapped in buckets, what happened to the guy whose job was to emptying those buckets into the forest ?
** Gaston seemed to be the best hunter of the village considering all his trophies. So, now that he's dead and since, at the end of the movie, there seems to be a very harsh winter, the villagers will probably starve to death and so will the people of the castle, since they need to eat again.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G4Vby3qanA link to the video here]] (unfortunatly, it's in French)

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** If the castle's staff was were transformed into the object they were using and considering that, at this time, people crapped in buckets, what happened to the guy whose job was to emptying those buckets into the forest ?
** Gaston seemed to be the best hunter of the village village, considering all his trophies. So, now that he's dead and since, at the end of the movie, there seems to be a very harsh winter, the villagers will probably starve to death and so will the people of the castle, since they need to eat again.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G4Vby3qanA link to the video here]] (unfortunatly, (unfortunately, it's in French)



* Seeing how much the villagers, especially the bimbettes fawned over Gaston, you can only imagine [[DrivenToSuicide the worst]] for many of them once the learn about his death.

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* Seeing how much the villagers, especially the bimbettes bimbettes, fawned over Gaston, you can only imagine [[DrivenToSuicide the worst]] for many of them once the learn about his death.



* So the Beast let Belle go, because he loves her, how romantic. Except for, uhm the hundreds of other lives in the balance. If Belle hadn't come back then what's would have stopped them from turning against their master in anger now that all hope was gone, much like the Village had done against Belle?

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* So the Beast let Belle go, because he loves her, how romantic. Except for, uhm the hundreds of other lives in the balance. If Belle hadn't come back then what's what would have stopped them from turning against their master in anger now that all hope was gone, much like the Village had done against Belle?Belle?
** The fact that they're good people who wouldn't murder a guy for respecting a woman's wishes?
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