History Fridge / BeautyAndTheBeast

11th Aug '16 1:56:22 PM Morgenthaler
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* Many see the Enchantress going overboard by punishing the servants too. Yet, she had two reasons: first, in older times servants tended to share the fate of their lord, enjoying the rewards granted to them by higher powers and being punished with them for their sins (see [[TheBible the Plagues of Egypt]] or [[TheIliad the plague Apollo visited on Agamemnon's army]] for two examples), thus they share his punishment; second, ''they were responsible for his upbringing'', meaning they ''do'' have a fault in him denying hospitality by making him a spoiled jerk.

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* Many see the Enchantress going overboard by punishing the servants too. Yet, she had two reasons: first, in older times servants tended to share the fate of their lord, enjoying the rewards granted to them by higher powers and being punished with them for their sins (see [[TheBible [[Literature/TheBible the Plagues of Egypt]] or [[TheIliad [[Literature/TheIliad the plague Apollo visited on Agamemnon's army]] for two examples), thus they share his punishment; second, ''they were responsible for his upbringing'', meaning they ''do'' have a fault in him denying hospitality by making him a spoiled jerk.
15th Jul '16 10:04:54 AM MrDeath
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* The Beast was punished, not for his inhospitality, but for discriminating against ugly people. He wasn't "doomed by witch magic" before he, when the old hag turned into a beautiful woman, grovelled at her feet. She may not have considered that such displays of magic freak people out.

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* The Beast was punished, not for his inhospitality, but for discriminating against ugly people. He wasn't "doomed by witch magic" before he, when the old hag turned into a beautiful woman, grovelled at her feet. She may not have considered that such displays of magic freak people out.
15th Jul '16 9:42:28 AM Ymirsdaughter
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* The Beast was punished, not for his inhospitality, but for discriminating against ugly people. He wasn't "doomed by witch magic" before he, when the old hag turned into a beautiful woman, grovelled at her feet. She may not have considered that such displays of magic freak people out.
5th Jul '16 9:06:40 AM ranichi17
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** The clothes of the servants, the fancy dresses and the jewelry were historically accurate for Louis XVI's reign, if a bit simple and undecorated for Versailles' standards ([[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Louise_Elisabeth_Vig%C3%A9e-Lebrun_-_Marie-Antoinette_dit_%C2%AB_%C3%A0_la_Rose_%C2%BB_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg this]] is what passed as everyday dress at Versailles at the time). As for Gaston's gun, he either enjoyed the challenge, couldn't afford a rifle (at the time guns cost ''a lot'') yet, or simply we never saw him in a situation warranting him to use a rifle and he wasn't stupid enough to keep the gun that cost the most to replace where someone could snitch it (I repeat, guns cost ''a lot'', and a rifled musket cost much more than a blunderbuss).

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** The clothes of the servants, the fancy dresses and the jewelry were historically accurate for Louis XVI's reign, if a bit simple and undecorated for Versailles' standards ([[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Louise_Elisabeth_Vig%C3%A9e-Lebrun_-_Marie-Antoinette_dit_%C2%AB_%C3%A0_la_Rose_%C2%BB_-_Google_Art_Project.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Louise_Elisabeth_Vigée-Lebrun_-_Marie-Antoinette_dit_«_à_la_Rose_»_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg this]] is what passed as everyday dress at Versailles at the time). As for Gaston's gun, he either enjoyed the challenge, couldn't afford a rifle (at the time guns cost ''a lot'') yet, or simply we never saw him in a situation warranting him to use a rifle and he wasn't stupid enough to keep the gun that cost the most to replace where someone could snitch it (I repeat, guns cost ''a lot'', and a rifled musket cost much more than a blunderbuss).
21st Jun '16 7:21:06 AM Lancelot07
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** And this sounds like heavy YMMV as plenty of people find the Prince to be stunning. It probably has more to do with his design being more ''bland'' than it was as the Beast, not ''ugly.''

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** And this sounds like heavy YMMV as plenty of people find the Prince to be stunning. It probably has more to do with his design being more ''bland'' than it was as the Beast, not ''ugly.'' "ugly."
21st Jun '16 7:19:28 AM Lancelot07
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** And this sounds like heavy YMMV as plenty of people find the Prince to be stunning. It probably has more to do with his design being more ''bland'' than it was as the Beast, not ''ugly.''
13th Jun '16 11:50:23 PM xanthera_true
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** To add to the horror, asylums in those days were often... pretty unpleasant, to put it mildly. Maurice would have been trapped there for possibly the rest of his days had Belle not proved him to be telling the truth about the Beast. And Gaston almost certainly knew this. As if his aggressive advances on Belle weren't enough, for him to convince Monsieur D'arque to commit someone who was simply a bit eccentric is needlessly cruel and malicious. Gaston is willing to stoop incredibly low in order to get what he wants. This is even {{LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the stage adaptation with the extra verse added to the end of Gaston's musical number:

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** To add to the horror, asylums in those days were often... pretty unpleasant, to put it mildly. Maurice would have been trapped there for possibly the rest of his days had Belle not proved him to be telling the truth about the Beast. And Gaston almost certainly knew this. As if his aggressive advances on Belle weren't enough, for him to convince Monsieur D'arque to commit someone who was simply a bit eccentric is needlessly cruel and malicious. Gaston is willing to stoop incredibly low in order to get what he wants. This is even {{LampshadeHanging [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the stage adaptation with the extra verse added to the end of Gaston's musical number:
13th Jun '16 11:49:27 PM xanthera_true
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** To add to the horror, asylums in those days were often... pretty unpleasant, to put it mildly. Maurice would have been trapped there for possibly the rest of his days had Belle not proved him to be telling the truth about the Beast. And Gaston almost certainly knew this. As if his aggressive advances on Belle weren't enough, for him to convince Monsieur D'arque to commit someone who was simply a bit eccentric is needlessly cruel and malicious. Gaston is willing to stoop incredibly low in order to get what he wants. This is even {{LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the stage adaptation with the extra verse added to the end of Gaston's musical number:
-->'''Gaston''': Yes, I'm endlessly, wildly resourceful
-->'''Le Fou''': As down to the depths you descend
-->'''Gaston''': I won't even be mildly remorseful
-->'''Le Fou''': Just as long as you get what you want in the end
25th May '16 7:20:37 AM terry78
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* During the "Gaston" number, the scene where he's playing chess with the other guy is supposed to be a hilarious scene of him just rage quitting due to a loss, but apparently his opponent moved his bishop as if it was a knight piece, so Gaston's anger is actually justified according to this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4VlCFEJsRM
27th Feb '16 10:37:41 PM Gamermaster
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** This is actually part of the Beast's CharacterDevelopment in Disney's part in their retelling of the story. In the original fairy tale, the Beast lets her go on the condition that she comes back in a week. Also, she only was allowed to leave solely because she feels homesick, unlike the Disney version where her father is actually in mortal danger (thus saving the Beast being taken over by his moral conscience since he is not setting her free at the cost of remaining cursed for eternity). While the Beast did not request that she goo back to the castle, she still had to return as she inadvertently imperiled the life of the Beast by revealing his existence to the villagers, making them decide to lynch him at Gaston's prodding (In the original, she returned to him after feeling guilty of not keeping her part of the bargain and seeing him dying of heartbreak and loneliness).

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** This is actually part of the Beast's CharacterDevelopment in Disney's part in their retelling of the story. In the original fairy tale, the Beast lets her go on the condition that she comes back in a week. Also, she only was allowed to leave solely because she feels homesick, unlike the Disney version where her father is actually in mortal danger (thus saving the Beast being taken over by his moral conscience since he is not setting her free at the cost of remaining cursed for eternity). While the Beast did not request that she goo go back to the castle, she still had to return as she inadvertently imperiled the life of the Beast by revealing his existence to the villagers, making them decide to lynch him at Gaston's prodding (In the original, she returned to him after feeling guilty of not keeping her part of the bargain and seeing him dying of heartbreak and loneliness).
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