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* Wong Fei from ''Return of the Fearsome Fangs'' is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only {{Batman:ONE}} of FIVE students completed his training... also just because "the plot demand it".

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* Wong Fei from ''Return of the Fearsome Fangs'' is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only {{Batman:ONE}} ''Batman/ONE'' of FIVE students completed his training... also just because "the plot demand it".
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* Wong Fei from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only {{Batman/ONE}} of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The plot demand it}}.

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* Wong Fei from "Return ''Return of the Fearsome Fangs" Fangs'' is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only {{Batman/ONE}} {{Batman:ONE}} of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The "the plot demand it}}.
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* Wong Fei from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only {{Batman/ONE}} of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The plot demand it}}.



** Or Batman has a countermeasure in case of a rogue PlasticMan which involves his exact mass, and Bat's is a genius who can do math on the fly.
* Wong Fei from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only [[Batman|ONE]] of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The plot demand it}}.

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** Or Batman has a countermeasure in case of a rogue PlasticMan which involves his exact mass, and Bat's is a genius who can do math on the fly.
* Wong Fei from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only [[Batman|ONE]] of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The plot demand it}}.
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** Or Batman has a countermeasure in case of a rogue PlasticMan which involves his exact mass, and Bat's is a genius who can do math on the fly.

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** Or Batman has a countermeasure in case of a rogue PlasticMan which involves his exact mass, and Bat's is a genius who can do math on the fly.fly.
* Wong Fei from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is probably the worst sensei I ever seen. He ever insults his pupils no matter if they do well or bad, claims they kneel him like an attention whore... no wonder if only [[Batman|ONE]] of FIVE students completed his training... also just because {{The plot demand it}}.
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* I don't know if this would count, but did anyone else notice that in "The Long Arm of the Law," Batman says that PlasticMan has lost 2.2 "percent" of himself, but the screen of the device he's holding is in ''grams?!'' Either Plas is ''exactly'' 100 grams (which is unlikely), or the creators of this show had no idea what they were doing. --@/Freud

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* I don't know if this would count, but did anyone else notice that in "The Long Arm of the Law," Batman says that PlasticMan has lost 2.2 "percent" of himself, but the screen of the device he's holding is in ''grams?!'' Either Plas is ''exactly'' 100 grams (which is unlikely), or the creators of this show had no idea what they were doing. --@/Freud--@/Freud
** Or Batman has a countermeasure in case of a rogue PlasticMan which involves his exact mass, and Bat's is a genius who can do math on the fly.
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** Even more fitting that such a Batman would be acquainted with so many other heroes. Associating himself with such diverse individuals gives him access to a wealth of different weapons, skills and technology from all manner of worlds.
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** Given her redesign as a 20s gangster moll, he may have thought she was another Joker henchwoman.

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* I don't know if this would count, but did anyone else notice that in "The Long Arm of the Law," Batman says that PlasticMan has lost 2.2 "percent" of himself, but the screen of the device he's holding is in ''grams?!'' Either Plas is ''exactly'' 100 grams (which is unlikely), or the creators of this show had no idea what they were doing. --@/Freud
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***** [[NightmareFuel Unless he recorded a track of his singing, and implanted it in his microphone.]]

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* In the Emperor Joker episode, Batman tells Bat-Mite that Joker's in a specially-designed cell and won't be breaking out any time soon. Bat-Mite simply snaps his fingers, Batman gets a call, and guess who's on the loose again? Bat-Mite loves seeing Batman in action, right? Suddenly Arkham's CardboardPrison reputation makes a lot more sense.
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**** If it makes you feel any better, [[spoiler: Tornado turns up just fine during the afterparty in "Mitefall".]]
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*** Calculator exists in this show too.
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*** What about his potential imprisonment? Would he have to be gagged 24/7? Would they use that throat-constricting drug that Batman developed in the comics (''JLA - Tower of Babel'' in case you were wondering)?
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*** Meaning he had more than enough prep time.
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* During his alliteration battle with Penguin in "Night of the Batmen!" Aquaman is unable to think of a bird name that starts with "G". Now calling someone a Goose is a common enough insult, BUT, The first bird Aquaman called Penguin? An albatross. Which is a SEA BIRD. Aquaman, IdoitHero he may be, would know what an albatross is, unlike a goose which is much more inland for the King of seas to take notice of.

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* During his alliteration battle with Penguin in "Night of the Batmen!" Aquaman is unable to think of a bird name that starts with "G". Now calling someone a Goose is a common enough insult, BUT, The first bird Aquaman called Penguin? An albatross. Which is a SEA BIRD. Aquaman, IdoitHero IdiotHero he may be, would know what an albatross is, unlike a goose which is much more inland for the King of seas to take notice of.
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* During his alliteration battle with Penguin in "Night of the Batmen!" Aquaman is unable to think of a bird name that starts with "G". Now calling someone a Goose is a common enough insult, BUT, The first bird Aquaman called Penguin? An albatross. Which is a SEA BIRD. Aquaman, IdoitHero he may be, would know what an albatross is, unlike a goose which is much more inland for the King of seas to take notice of.
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** It isn't like comic! Batman isn't CrazyPrepared either. ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' just took 'Batman can beat anyone with enough prep time' and turned it into 'Batman has a lightsaber and a car that turns into a giant robot, ''just in case''.'
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* I recently had one of these moments regarding everyone's favorite EnsembleDarkhorse The Music Meister. Setting to spoilers for everyone that hasn't seen his episode yet: [[spoiler: so, in the final music number, we are treated to a montage of his hypnotized victims stealing everything and anything insight; at first, FridgeLogic sets in when you think there's no possible way he could ever need or collect all that is being take. But this is where the Brilliance comes into play: He KNOWS this. After his show stopping number ends, people will be confused and maybe even slightly panicked; meaning that it would take weeks, or even months, to figure out everything that was missing and what was just taken by the hypnotized masses. By that time, the Music Meister could be literally ANYWHERE in the world with whatever he felt he could take without being noticed. [[LargeHam Too subtle for his character you say?]] That leads to another moment of Brilliance; that 'character' is an act! (a performance, if you will). He plays up the camp factor by singing all the time (when vocalizing at the pitch needed to hypnotize people would be enough), wearing ever more extravagant costumes and just being as over the top as possible to hide just how subtle he can be (and possibly because he honestly enjoys it).]] Suddenly; an already epic character seems [[BeyondTheImpossible EVEN MORE Awesome]].

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* I recently had one of these moments regarding everyone's favorite EnsembleDarkhorse The Music Meister. Setting to spoilers for everyone that hasn't seen his episode yet: [[spoiler: so, in the final music number, we are treated to a montage of his hypnotized victims stealing everything and anything insight; at first, FridgeLogic sets in when you think there's no possible way he could ever need or collect all that is being take. But this is where the Brilliance comes into play: He KNOWS this. After his show stopping number ends, people will be confused and maybe even slightly panicked; meaning that it would take weeks, or even months, to figure out everything that was missing and what was just taken by the hypnotized masses. By that time, the Music Meister could be literally ANYWHERE in the world with whatever he felt he could take without being noticed. [[LargeHam Too subtle for his character you say?]] That leads to another moment of Brilliance; that 'character' is an act! (a performance, if you will). He plays up the camp factor by singing all the time (when vocalizing at the pitch needed to hypnotize people would be enough), wearing ever more extravagant costumes and just being as over the top as possible to hide just how subtle he can be (and possibly because he honestly enjoys it).]] Suddenly; an already epic character seems [[BeyondTheImpossible [[UpToEleven EVEN MORE Awesome]].
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* In the episode featuring the Bat-bots, the prototype is voiced by Adam West. Taken by itself, this is merely a Casting Gag, but I suddenly remembered "The Chill Of The Night" and realized that ''[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Batman gave Proto the voice of his father]].'' --{{Tropers/Crowmagnon}}
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\n* At the beginning of "Trials of the Demon!", Scarecrow genetically alters Gotham's pumpkins to emit fear gas when heated. Obviously, this makes jack-o-lanterns dangerous, but this also includes a fall staple: pumpkin pies. How many people would go insane simply from cooking their pumpkins?
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* Am I the only one who realized just how dangerous TheMusicMeister from ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' is?! Now, don't get me wrong, the episode was a delight, but hear me out. Throughout the episode, he took control of people just by SINGING. By doing a musical number through Gotham, WHILE RUNNING FROM THE BATMAN, he turned the entire city into his slaves. Heck, in the opening, if Batman hadn't stopped them, the three heroes and three villains he had control of, who he had control of even before he first APPEARED, would have done a kickline right into a rocketblast at Music Meister's orders. Even with Batman's PlotDevice earplugs in them, {{ComicBook/AQUAMAN}}, GreenArrow, and BlackCanary were STILL singing, which implies that his voice isn't just hypnotic, but [[TheVirus viral!]] [[spoiler: He was literally just one person away from ruling the entire world at the end...]]

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* Am I the only one who realized just how dangerous TheMusicMeister from ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' is?! Now, don't get me wrong, the episode was a delight, but hear me out. Throughout the episode, he took control of people just by SINGING. By doing a musical number through Gotham, WHILE RUNNING FROM THE BATMAN, he turned the entire city into his slaves. Heck, in the opening, if Batman hadn't stopped them, the three heroes and three villains he had control of, who he had control of even before he first APPEARED, would have done a kickline right into a rocketblast at Music Meister's orders. Even with Batman's PlotDevice earplugs in them, {{ComicBook/AQUAMAN}}, GreenArrow, and BlackCanary were STILL singing, which implies that his voice isn't just hypnotic, but [[TheVirus viral!]] [[spoiler: He was literally just one person away from ruling the entire world at the end...]]
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*** I believe the canon answer ([[AllThereInTheManual from the comics]]) is that the dome had been built to protect from other threats, and just happened to work in this situation beautifully.

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*** Oh, it gets bloody worse people. Remember that punk musical number "Death Trap"? Remember how since he had Batman and Black Canary tied up they were clearly out cold for an extended period of time? Music Meister just had to drop the VillainBall for 5 seconds and think "You know, instead of putting them in this overly complex trap, why don't I just TAKE OUT HIS EAR PLUGS!" If he had just rolled slightly higher on that wisdom check he would've WON... for good.

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*** Oh, it gets bloody worse people. Remember that punk musical number "Death Trap"? Remember how since he had Batman and Black Canary tied up they were clearly out cold for an extended period of time? Music Meister just had to drop the VillainBall for 5 seconds and think "You know, instead of putting them in this overly complex trap, why don't I just TAKE OUT HIS EAR PLUGS!" If he had just rolled slightly higher on that wisdom check he would've WON... for good. [[AffablyEvil Granted, we wouldn't be in misery.]]


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***** [[NightmareFuel Unless he recorded a track of his singing, and implanted it in his microphone.]]
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** It's ungodly catchy for us, too. Dear lord, [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou imagine what would happen if he saw us.]]
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* Am I the only one who realized just how dangerous TheMusicMeister from ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' is?! Now, don't get me wrong, the episode was a delight, but hear me out. Throughout the episode, he took control of people just by SINGING. By doing a musical number through Gotham, WHILE RUNNING FROM THE BATMAN, he turned the entire city into his slaves. Heck, in the opening, if Batman hadn't stopped them, the three heroes and three villains he had control of, who he had control of even before he first APPEARED, would have done a kickline right into a rocketblast at Music Meister's orders. Even with Batman's PlotDevice earplugs in them, {{ComicBook/AQUAMAN}}, GreenArrow, and BlackCanary were STILL singing, which implies that his voice isn't just hypnotic, but [[TheVirus viral!]] [[spoiler: He was literally just one person away from ruling the entire world at the end...]]
** ...God, if he got into the main DCU, and took control of Oracle and Calculator...
*** Oh, it gets bloody worse people. Remember that punk musical number "Death Trap"? Remember how since he had Batman and Black Canary tied up they were clearly out cold for an extended period of time? Music Meister just had to drop the VillainBall for 5 seconds and think "You know, instead of putting them in this overly complex trap, why don't I just TAKE OUT HIS EAR PLUGS!" If he had just rolled slightly higher on that wisdom check he would've WON... for good.
**** However on the bright side, since the world stopped singing right after his microphone blew, he would've lost control as soon as he had to go to bed.
** In the first part of "The Siege of Starro!", [[spoiler: Faceless Hunter looks like he killed off RedTornado]]. Absolutely no one mentions looking for him at all. WhatTheHellHero indeed.
*** Doesn't that happen to him all the time, though? He was killed in ''JusticeLeague'' once (destroyed by A.M.A.Z.O. in "The Return"), and was back in time for "Fire in the Sky". [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Good Thing You Can Be Rebuilt]]!
*** Yes but what if [[spoiler:Faceless Hunter]] made sure to hide the body?

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* It had never occurred to this Troper until rewatching it the tenth time, that at the very end of the GrandFinale, it's the Music Meister playing piano at the after show party.
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** Givern her redisign to a Gangster chick, he probably didn't recognize her as Harley Quinn. He propably though she was another Joker henchwoman.

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** Givern Given her redisign to redesign as a Gangster chick, 20s gangster moll, he probably didn't recognize her as Harley Quinn. He propably though may have thought she was another Joker henchwoman.
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* When I first saw ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', I thought it took Batman's "Batgod" status a little too far. After watching the episode "Game Over for Owlman," in which Owlman uses Ted Kord's BB Gun to disable Jaime Reyes, it hit me - this is a Batman to whom [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards is not useless.]] All of the crazy, outlandish, un-Batman-y gadgets Batman uses in this show - mecha, lightsabers, space flight capable jetpack, etc. - are the results of Batman augmenting his arsenal with additions copied or suggested from his fellow superheroes! This actually makes ''more'' sense than the comic Batman sticking to light body armor and low technology despite spending so much time around mega-geniuses and alien technology. --@/TheEvilDrBolty

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* When I first saw ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', I thought it took Batman's "Batgod" status a little too far. After watching the episode "Game Over for Owlman," in which Owlman uses Ted Kord's BB Gun to disable Jaime Reyes, it hit me - this is a Batman to whom [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards is not useless.]] All of the crazy, outlandish, un-Batman-y gadgets Batman uses in this show - mecha, lightsabers, space flight capable jetpack, etc. - are the results of Batman augmenting his arsenal with additions copied or suggested from his fellow superheroes! This actually makes ''more'' sense than the comic Batman sticking to light body armor and low technology despite spending so much time around mega-geniuses and alien technology. --@/TheEvilDrBolty

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* FridgeLogic: Why is Atlantis a DomedHometown if everyone can breathe underwater?

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** Why did AQUAMAN's plan in "Mystery In Space" involve borrowing [[spoiler:Earth's moon]] for an eclipse, and not one of the other billon or so chunks of dirt in the universe of roughly the same size that wouldn't cause untold devastation to the planet's inhabitants?
*** And why didn't the Eye of Zarod have a battery backup?
** How does Bat-Mite, the biggest Batman fan ever, ''not'' recognize Harley Quinn? (You'd think someone who can traverse dimensions would be open to the idea of a CanonImmigrant...)

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*** ** And why didn't the Eye of Zarod have a battery backup?
** * How does Bat-Mite, the biggest Batman fan ever, ''not'' recognize Harley Quinn? (You'd think someone who can traverse dimensions would be open to the idea of a CanonImmigrant...)
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* When I first saw ''BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', I thought it took Batman's "Batgod" status a little too far. After watching the episode "Game Over for Owlman," in which Owlman uses Ted Kord's BB Gun to disable Jaime Reyes, it hit me - this is a Batman to whom [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards is not useless.]] All of the crazy, outlandish, un-Batman-y gadgets Batman uses in this show - mecha, lightsabers, space flight capable jetpack, etc. - are the results of Batman augmenting his arsenal with additions copied or suggested from his fellow superheroes! This actually makes ''more'' sense than the comic Batman sticking to light body armor and low technology despite spending so much time around mega-geniuses and alien technology. --@/TheEvilDrBolty
** Which means that SilverAge Batman, despite his {{camp}}iness ruining the darkness of Batman, was actually the best and most efficient crimefighter out of the versions. Which also means that the BronzeAge and DarkAge actually made Batman less realistic than the SilverAge.--@/{{Yarrunmace}}
*** Well, shoot, in the late '50s and early '60s, Gotham City was renowned for being a pleasant, prosperous place with a fairly low crime rate, because Batman had cleaned up the city. Sure, there were weird aliens wandering aimlessly through town every couple of months, but yeah, by and large, the "silliest" Batman was by far the most effective one. -- @/YourObedientSerpent
* I recently had one of these moments regarding everyone's favorite EnsembleDarkhorse The Music Meister. Setting to spoilers for everyone that hasn't seen his episode yet: [[spoiler: so, in the final music number, we are treated to a montage of his hypnotized victims stealing everything and anything insight; at first, FridgeLogic sets in when you think there's no possible way he could ever need or collect all that is being take. But this is where the Brilliance comes into play: He KNOWS this. After his show stopping number ends, people will be confused and maybe even slightly panicked; meaning that it would take weeks, or even months, to figure out everything that was missing and what was just taken by the hypnotized masses. By that time, the Music Meister could be literally ANYWHERE in the world with whatever he felt he could take without being noticed. [[LargeHam Too subtle for his character you say?]] That leads to another moment of Brilliance; that 'character' is an act! (a performance, if you will). He plays up the camp factor by singing all the time (when vocalizing at the pitch needed to hypnotize people would be enough), wearing ever more extravagant costumes and just being as over the top as possible to hide just how subtle he can be (and possibly because he honestly enjoys it).]] Suddenly; an already epic character seems [[BeyondTheImpossible EVEN MORE Awesome]].
** Also regarding the Music Meister: his appearance is very similar to the Music ''Master'', from the ''JusticeLeague'' two-parter "Legends". He was part of the Injustice Guild, the evil counterpart to the Justice Guild, which was the alternate-universe Justice League with characters slightly different to their "real" DCAU counterparts- Catman instead of Batman, Black Siren instead of Black Canary, and so on. It therefore makes perfect sense that the same villain in Batman's universe would be called the Music ''Meister'' instead. The Music Master also had a European accent (I'm not entirely sure which country it was), so swapping his accent to American and the name to German might have been a further play on the universe-switch theme. -- {{Tropers/Eruvadhril}}
* Starro was able to successfully assimilate the people of every world except Earth (because of all the heroes), and Claramar. Why couldn't he assimilate the people of Claramar? ''They have no faces to latch on to.'' --{{Tropers/Freiberg}}

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