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26th May '14 7:42:51 PM EthanWalling
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* FridgeLogic: Why the hell does Gotham City have its own currency?
** Did nobody ''notice'' Edward Nygma chatting rather amiably with Two-Face at the penthouse party?
*** This is Gotham City. When the madman crashes your party, it might be a good idea to talk to him and see that he's having a good time--some of them are just crazy/amiable enough that it might work.
* How did Nygma make any money on the Box? Since he designed it while he was working at Wayne Enterprises, wouldn't WE have held the patent on the thing?
** Lampshaded by the {{Novelization}}. Bruce's corporate lawyers advise him of this and tell him to take Nygma to court, but Bruce declines; he says it would look too much like "sour grapes." And, although this is implied and not stated outright, he wants to give Nygma enough rope to hang himself.
* Edward's apartment and cubicle is adorned with bobbleheads and fortune teller machines of a guy that's dressed in a green suit with question marks all over it; He even takes the jacket and hat from the fortune teller machine when he meets up with Two-Face for the first time. Who is this guy?
** This one comes from earlier script drafts, but was lost in the final cut. In those drafts, this pixie-like figure was called the "Guesser", and he probably served as the ''Gotham Globe's'' puzzles-page mascot (it's never stated what his function was). Apparently, he was popular enough that merchandise was made in his image, and his likeness licensed out for fortune-telling animatronics.
* Who the Hell puts a deaf man in charge of guarding a bank vault?
** He wasn't deaf. He had something to help his hearing, but he clearly wasn't deaf.
* So it's completely normal for groups of kids to go trick-or-treating (without parental supervision) at Wayne Manor, even though it's on the outskirts of town?
** Parents don't have to be hovering over their kids' shoulders the whole time they're trick-or-treating. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine the parents often stood well back from their kids.
*** In this tropers experience the presence of parents significantly hampers the feasibility of carrying out any nessecary tricks.
*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Besides, everyone knows rich people will have the most candy!]]
*** Not to mention this is Wayne Manor - justified or not, people would probably be more comfortable being there as the Wayne family were well known, well liked, and lacking in any sort of scandal. Given that this Bruce was also more aware of the need to be Bruce as well as Batman, he's probably also started to make efforts to avoid seeming like a complete idiot with no day job.

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* FridgeLogic: Why the hell does Gotham City have its own currency?
** Did nobody ''notice'' Edward Nygma chatting rather amiably with Two-Face at the penthouse party?
*** This is Gotham City. When the madman crashes your party, it might be a good idea to talk to him and see that he's having a good time--some of them are just crazy/amiable enough that it might work.
* How did Nygma make any money on the Box? Since he designed it while he was working at Wayne Enterprises, wouldn't WE have held the patent on the thing?
** Lampshaded by the {{Novelization}}. Bruce's corporate lawyers advise him of this and tell him to take Nygma to court, but Bruce declines; he says it would look too much like "sour grapes." And, although this is implied and not stated outright, he wants to give Nygma enough rope to hang himself.
* Edward's apartment and cubicle is adorned with bobbleheads and fortune teller machines of a guy that's dressed in a green suit with question marks all over it; He even takes the jacket and hat from the fortune teller machine when he meets up with Two-Face for the first time. Who is this guy?
** This one comes from earlier script drafts, but was lost in the final cut. In those drafts, this pixie-like figure was called the "Guesser", and he probably served as the ''Gotham Globe's'' puzzles-page mascot (it's never stated what his function was). Apparently, he was popular enough that merchandise was made in his image, and his likeness licensed out for fortune-telling animatronics.
* Who the Hell puts a deaf man in charge of guarding a bank vault?
** He wasn't deaf. He had something to help his hearing, but he clearly wasn't deaf.
* So it's completely normal for groups of kids to go trick-or-treating (without parental supervision) at Wayne Manor, even though it's on the outskirts of town?
** Parents don't have to be hovering over their kids' shoulders the whole time they're trick-or-treating. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine the parents often stood well back from their kids.
*** In this tropers experience the presence of parents significantly hampers the feasibility of carrying out any nessecary tricks.
*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Besides, everyone knows rich people will have the most candy!]]
*** Not to mention this is Wayne Manor - justified or not, people would probably be more comfortable being there as the Wayne family were well known, well liked, and lacking in any sort of scandal. Given that this Bruce was also more aware of the need to be Bruce as well as Batman, he's probably also started to make efforts to avoid seeming like a complete idiot with no day job.


7th May '14 3:05:03 PM AntMan
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** As [[VideoGame/LegoAdaptationGame a certain videogame]] would point out years later, the Riddler/Two-Face partnership is full of this: Riddler's endless questions and Two-Face's coin to answer them. They are each other's perfect {{Foil}}.
18th Apr '14 2:30:52 AM GeminiSparkSP
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** There's an infamous sequence in which Two-Face tricks Batman into a car chase. Batman gets away from him (using, yes, the ability to drive up walls), and nothing in particular seems to happen. However, Two-Face's first appearance in this scene is disguised as a woman pushing a cart in front of the Batmobile. This seems trivial, but notice the parallelism between this sudden stop and the one in Batman Returns, this time for an actual old woman, in the midst of Batman being framed as a mad criminal. This echoing of that incident by Two-Face indicates that he was more than aware of it prior to being scarred. And, his whole character becomes much deeper. He's now out to rectify his mistake by letting a madman lose on Gotham, but once he gets scarred as result of Batman's failure, he can no longer be objective ("Emotion is always the enemy of true justice.") and must rely on the coin flip. In one, fell swoop, a subplot from one movie becomes more significant, an action scene from another actually has a point, and a character becomes more than a one-note joke. That's some intense fridge brilliance.
28th May '13 4:15:12 PM PhantomKitty
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*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Besides, everyone knows rich people will have the most candy!]]

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*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Besides, everyone knows rich people will have the most candy!]]candy!]]
*** Not to mention this is Wayne Manor - justified or not, people would probably be more comfortable being there as the Wayne family were well known, well liked, and lacking in any sort of scandal. Given that this Bruce was also more aware of the need to be Bruce as well as Batman, he's probably also started to make efforts to avoid seeming like a complete idiot with no day job.
26th Feb '13 11:36:36 AM fawkesfeather
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*** In this tropers experience the presence of parents significantly hampers the feasibility of carrying out any nessecary tricks

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*** In this tropers experience the presence of parents significantly hampers the feasibility of carrying out any nessecary trickstricks.
*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Besides, everyone knows rich people will have the most candy!]]
4th Oct '12 11:51:32 AM masamune1
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**** There is a scene in the finished movie where Bruce relates to Chase how he fell into the Batcave as a small boy after running away from home on a dark and stormy night clutching his dead fathers journal (which admittedly loses relevance without the above scene) and remarks "I fell...forever". That is as close to a TitleDrop as the movie gets, and basically what it means is Bruce thinks he is ''doomed'' to be Batman and is still falling through the metaphorical darkness. The central theme of the movie reflects this as Bruce is wondering if he can retire as Batman.
4th Sep '12 5:27:09 PM daman345
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** Parents don't have to be hovering over their kids' shoulders the whole time they're trick-or-treating. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine the parents often stood well back from their kids.

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** Parents don't have to be hovering over their kids' shoulders the whole time they're trick-or-treating. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine the parents often stood well back from their kids.kids.
***In this tropers experience the presence of parents significantly hampers the feasibility of carrying out any nessecary tricks
9th Aug '12 11:27:30 AM MrDeath
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* So it's completely normal for groups of kids to go trick-or-treating (without parental supervision) at Wayne Manor, even though it's on the outskirts of town?

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** He wasn't deaf. He had something to help his hearing, but he clearly wasn't deaf.
* So it's completely normal for groups of kids to go trick-or-treating (without parental supervision) at Wayne Manor, even though it's on the outskirts of town?town?
** Parents don't have to be hovering over their kids' shoulders the whole time they're trick-or-treating. I don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine the parents often stood well back from their kids.
9th Aug '12 10:53:11 AM kittykorra
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* Who the Hell puts a deaf man in charge of guarding a bank vault?

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* Who the Hell puts a deaf man in charge of guarding a bank vault?vault?
* So it's completely normal for groups of kids to go trick-or-treating (without parental supervision) at Wayne Manor, even though it's on the outskirts of town?
2nd Mar '12 10:33:41 AM maxwellelvis
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** This one comes from earlier script drafts, but was lost in the final cut. In those drafts, this pixie-like figure was called the "Guesser", and he probably served as the ''Gotham Globe's'' puzzles-page mascot (it's never stated what his function was). Apparently, he was popular enough that merchandise was made in his image, and his likeness licensed out for fortune-telling animatronics.

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** This one comes from earlier script drafts, but was lost in the final cut. In those drafts, this pixie-like figure was called the "Guesser", and he probably served as the ''Gotham Globe's'' puzzles-page mascot (it's never stated what his function was). Apparently, he was popular enough that merchandise was made in his image, and his likeness licensed out for fortune-telling animatronics.animatronics.
* Who the Hell puts a deaf man in charge of guarding a bank vault?
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