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* Anything to do with Mr. Freeze falls in this category.
** Ahaha. Fridge Logic. I get it.
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*** That pun leaves me cold.
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* Poison Ivy was sitting in her chair/plant when she kisses Robin. She fights him and Batman. Then Batgirl comes in and they fight. Batgirl pushes her into the chair/plant which eats her... No reason was given as to why her chair just ate her...
** One of two things happened: When simply lounging inside the plant, Poison Ivy didn't put enough pressure on its trigger mechanism to close it, but when she fell into it, the mechanism triggered and, like a perfect reflex action, the plant closed instinctively. Another possible reason is that Poison Ivy simply lost control of the plant due to being beaten up from the fight and her mind being otherwise occupied.
** Ivy wanted her plants to gain the strength and intelligence of animals, so that they would hate all humans and could defend themselves against the harms of mankind. While Ivy fought Batgirl, the plants' intellect reached maturity, so when she fell in, the flower throne, [[GoneHorriblyRight recognizing her as a human]], and/or [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness without any more need from the human that raised them]], [[TheStarscream turned on their mother]].
* A bit of fridge logic over the infamous Bat Credit Card: Bruce adds a credit card to Wayne Financial, in the name of Batman, with no expiry date, and a bit of obfuscation, which draws on his own considerable finances, or a ghost account in the name of Batman. As far as the credit card company is concerned, the transaction is valid, and money is paid to the seller.
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* Pretty much the entire rainforest ball in hindsight; Bruce's plan to use the Heart of Isis is marred by the fact that his plan means luring a dangerous criminal into a crowded event, a criminal who has been shown to have the stomach for killing, a very dangerous weapon, and a gang of violent henchmen, with only himself, Robin, and a handful of police officers between them to capture him. At best, a very poorly thought-out plan, and at worst, a plan where the Dark Knight himself intentionally endangered the lives of a ballroom full of people.

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* Pretty much the entire rainforest ball in hindsight; Bruce's plan to use the Heart of Isis is marred by the fact that his plan means luring a dangerous criminal into a crowded event, a criminal who has been shown to have the stomach for killing, a very dangerous weapon, and a gang of violent henchmen, with only himself, Robin, and a handful of police officers between them to capture him. At best, a very poorly thought-out plan, and at worst, a plan where the Dark Knight himself intentionally endangered the lives of a ballroom full of people.people.
** Not to mention Batman's stern "You have 11 minutes to thaw these people!" line he feeds to the overwhelmed Commissioner Gordon in the aftermath of the attack. This troper highly doubts that the GPD has any sort of portable, powerful heating devices to thaw the Gothamites out in time. Nice going, Bats.
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* The movie actually opens with a decent VisualPun: outside the museum it lingers on a shot of a frieze before introducing Mr. Freeze. Too bad it's all downhill from there...

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* The movie actually opens with a decent VisualPun: outside the museum it lingers on a shot of a frieze '''frieze''' before introducing Mr. Freeze. Too bad it's all downhill from there...there...

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* FridgeLogic - Anything to do with Mr. Freeze falls in this category.

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* FridgeLogic - Anything to do with Mr. Freeze falls in this category.



* The movie actually opens with a decent VisualPun: outside the museum it lingers on a shot of a frieze before introducing Mr. Freeze. Too bad it's all downhill from there...



* FridgeBrilliance - Mr. Freeze is not having a moment of BondVillainStupidity at the beginning of the movie. His plan was to lure Batman (or even Robin) into a FriendOrIdolDecision by freezing Robin and using that to cover his own retreat because his suit was running out of energy and his life would have been in danger if he had stuck around to fight Batman. In short, Mr. Freeze pulled a BatmanGambit ''on Batman''!
** The guy trying to save his wife saying "your emotions make you weak" definitely supports this theory.

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* FridgeBrilliance - Mr. Freeze is not having a moment of BondVillainStupidity at the beginning of the movie. His plan was to lure Batman (or even Robin) into a FriendOrIdolDecision by freezing Robin and using that to cover his own retreat because his suit was running out of energy and his life would have been in danger if he had stuck around to fight Batman. In short, Mr. Freeze pulled a BatmanGambit ''on Batman''!
** The guy trying to save his wife saying "your emotions make you weak" definitely supports this theory.
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* Ivy doses several men with her pheromone dust and gets different results for each. This isn't inconsistent writing, Freeze describes it as 'heating a man's blood' so each man she affects is only as dazzled as a man would be if severely aroused and flirted with (Dick is young and inexperienced so falls completely, Freeze is married and devoted so shrugs it off completely, etc.).



* Ivy doses several men with her pheromone dust and gets different results for each. This isn't inconsistent writing, Freeze describes it as 'heating a man's blood' so each man she affects is only as dazzled as a man would be if severely aroused and flirted with (Dick is young and inexperienced so falls completely, Freeze is married and devoted so shrugs it off completely, etc.).
* FridgeHorror - Pretty much the entire rainforest ball in hindsight; Bruce's plan to use the Heart of Isis is marred by the fact that his plan means luring a dangerous criminal into a crowded event, a criminal who has been shown to have the stomach for killing, a very dangerous weapon, and a gang of violent henchmen, with only himself, Robin, and a handful of police officers between them to capture him. At best, a very poorly thought-out plan, and at worst, a plan where the Dark Knight himself intentionally endangered the lives of a ballroom full of people.
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* Ivy doses several men with her pheromone dust and gets different results for each. This isn't inconsistent writing, Freeze describes it as 'heating a man's blood' so each man she affects is only as dazzled as a man would be if severely aroused and flirted with (Dick is young and inexperienced so falls completely, Mr. Freeze is married not having a moment of BondVillainStupidity at the beginning of the movie. His plan was to lure Batman (or even Robin) into a FriendOrIdolDecision by freezing Robin and devoted so shrugs using that to cover his own retreat because his suit was running out of energy and his life would have been in danger if he had stuck around to fight Batman. In short, Mr. Freeze pulled a BatmanGambit ''on Batman''!
** The guy trying to save his wife saying "your emotions make you weak" definitely supports this theory.
* The movie actually opens with a decent VisualPun: outside the museum
it off completely, etc.).
lingers on a shot of a frieze before introducing Mr. Freeze. Too bad it's all downhill from there...
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* FridgeHorror - Pretty much the entire rainforest ball in hindsight; Bruce's plan to use the Heart of Isis is marred by the fact that his plan means luring a dangerous criminal into a crowded event, a criminal who has been shown to have the stomach for killing, a very dangerous weapon, and a gang of violent henchmen, with only himself, Robin, and a handful of police officers between them to capture him. At best, a very poorly thought-out plan, and at worst, a plan where the Dark Knight himself intentionally endangered the lives of a ballroom full of people.
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** Ivy did also say "curses", which, judging by what she said next, which sounded a bit like "no, not 'close'", her plant obeyed what it thought was a command. That's how I understood it when I was younger, so I thought I'd just throw that out there.



* A bit of fridge logic over the infamous Bat Credit Card...
** Bruce adds a credit card to Wayne Financial, in the name of Batman, with no expiry date, and a bit of obfuscation, which draws on his own considerable finances, or a ghost account in the name of Batman. As far as the credit card company is concerned, the transaction is valid, and money is paid to the seller.

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* A bit of fridge logic over the infamous Bat Credit Card...
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Card: Bruce adds a credit card to Wayne Financial, in the name of Batman, with no expiry date, and a bit of obfuscation, which draws on his own considerable finances, or a ghost account in the name of Batman. As far as the credit card company is concerned, the transaction is valid, and money is paid to the seller.
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** Ivy wanted her plants to gain the strength and intelligence of animals, so that they could hate all humans and defend themselves against the harms of mankind. While Ivy fought Batgirl, the plants' intellect reached maturity, so when she fell in, the flower throne, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard naturally recognizing her as a human]], and/or [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness without any more need from the human that raised them]], [[TheStarscream turned on their mother]].

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** Ivy wanted her plants to gain the strength and intelligence of animals, so that they could would hate all humans and could defend themselves against the harms of mankind. While Ivy fought Batgirl, the plants' intellect reached maturity, so when she fell in, the flower throne, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard naturally [[GoneHorriblyRight recognizing her as a human]], and/or [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness without any more need from the human that raised them]], [[TheStarscream turned on their mother]].
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** Ivy wanted her plants to gain the strength and intelligence of animals, so that they could hate all humans and defend themselves against the harms of mankind. While Ivy fought Batgirl, the plants' intellect reached maturity, so when she fell in, the flower throne, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard naturally recognizing her as a human]], and/or [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness without any more need from the human that raised them]], [[TheStarscream turned on their mother]].
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* FridgeHorror - Pretty much the entire rainforest ball in hindsight; Bruce's plan to use the Heart of Isis is marred by the fact that his plan means luring a dangerous criminal into a crowded event, a criminal who has been shown to have the stomach for killing, a very dangerous weapon, and a gang of violent henchmen, with only himself, Robin, and a handful of police officers between them to capture him. At best, a very poorly thought-out plan, and at worst, a plan where the Dark Knight himself intentionally endangered the lives of a ballroom full of people.
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* Ivy doses several men with her pheromone dust and gets different results for each. This isn't inconsistent writing, Freeze describes it as 'heating a man's blood' so each man she affects is only as dazzled as a man would be if severely aroused and flirted with (Dick is young and inexperienced so falls completely, Freeze is married and devoted so shrugs it off completely, etc.).
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* The movie actually opens with a decent VisualPun: outside the museum it lingers on a shot of a frieze before introducing Mr. Freeze. Too bad it's all downhill from there...
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* Robin seems to be far more susceptible to Ivy's pheromones than Batman. Part of this may be because of Robin's natural bullheadedness, but a large part of it is that he always haphazardly breathes in her love dust, whereas Batman is always seen trying to shake it off.

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* A bit of fridge logic over the infamous Bat Credit Card...
** Bruce adds a credit card to Wayne Financial, in the name of Batman, with no expiry date, and a bit of obfuscation, which draws on his own considerable finances, or a ghost account in the name of Batman. As far as the credit card company is concerned, the transaction is valid, and money is paid to the seller.



** The guy trying to save his wife saying "your emotions make you weak" definitely supports this theory

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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy Creator/AdamWest version of Batman.

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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy Creator/AdamWest [[Series/{{Batman}} 1960s version of Batman.Batman]] with Creator/AdamWest.
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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy AdamWest version of Batman.

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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy AdamWest Creator/AdamWest version of Batman.
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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy AdamWest version of Batman.
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What is the Fridge element of this? This is just straight Nightmare Fuel. Also if somethin in the work invalidates the Fridge Brilliance just remove it altogether.


* FridgeHorror: All this "LighterAndSofter Gotham" talk almost goes right out the window when we see that every nook, cranny, abandoned Turkish bath and street racing site is populated by gangs. Most of them look homeless, at least one is led by a sexual predator, and another is completely okay with raising a child around crooked, violent bike races.



* People complain about Batgirl's costume not having any "bat nipples". Well, think about this. The costume was made by her uncle, Alfred. Wouldn't that raise a lot of questions and UnfortunateImplications if her costume ''did'' have nipples?
** It does.
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** The guy trying to save his wife saying "your emotions make you weak" definitely supports this theory
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** Ivy did also say "curses", which, judging by what she said next, which sounded a bit like "no, not 'close'", her plant obeyed what it thought was a command. That's how I understood it when I was younger, so I thought I'd just throw that out there.
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** It does.
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***** Let's chill with the puns.
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* People complain about Batgirl's costume not having any "bat nipples". Well, think about this. The costume was made by her uncle, Alfred. Wouldn't that raise a lot of questions and UnfortunateImplications if her costume ''did'' have nipples?
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* FridgeLogic - Anything to do with [[IncrediblyLamePun Mr. Freeze]] falls in this category.
** [[IncrediblyLamePun Ahaha. Fridge Logic. I get it]].

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* FridgeLogic - Anything to do with [[IncrediblyLamePun Mr. Freeze]] Freeze falls in this category.
** [[IncrediblyLamePun Ahaha. Fridge Logic. I get it]].it.
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** One of two things happened: When simply lounging inside the plant, Poison Ivy didn't put enough pressure on its trigger mechanism to close it, but when she fell into it, the mechanism triggered and, like a perfect reflex action, the plant closed instinctively. Another possible reason is that Poison Ivy simply lost control of the plant due to being beaten up from the fight and her mind being otherwise occupied.
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* FridgeBrilliance - Mr. Freeze is not having a moment of BondVillainStupidity at the beginning of the movie. His plan was to lure Batman (or even Robin) into a FriendOrIdolDecision by freezing Robin and using that to cover his own retreat because his suit was running out of energy and his life would have been in danger if he had stuck around to fight Batman. In short, Mr. Freeze pulled a BatmanGambit ''on Batman''!
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* FridgeHorror: All this "LighterAndSofter Gotham" talk almost goes right out the window when we see that every nook, cranny, abandoned Turkish bath and street racing site is populated by gangs. Most of them look homeless, at least one is led by a sexual predator, and another is completely okay with raising a child around crooked, violent bike races.
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**** That pun leaves me cold.
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* Poison Ivy was sitting in her chair/plant when she kisses Robin. She fights him and Batman. Then Batgirl comes in and they fight. Batgirl pushes her into the chair/plant which eats her... No reason was given as to why her chair just ate her...

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