History Fridge / ASongOfIceAndFire

16th Oct '17 6:07:21 AM emmaliza
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* Possibly coincidental, but a possible PortmanteauCoupleName for Robb Stark and Jeyne Westerling would be "Reyne". As in the Reynes of Castamere, [[spoiler:the song that plays just before Robb is murdered as a direct result of his marriage to Jeyne]]. {{Foreshadowing}} much?
26th Sep '17 1:00:32 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* The title "A Feast for Crows". It seems to refer to the fact the war is over and crows are now feasting on Westeros, a major part of the book being the fallout of the war. However, it could also refer to Euron Greyjoy, "the Crow's Eye". In this book he finally appears, becomes King of the Iron Islands, and begins his campaign to conquer Westeros, one of the chapters he appears in even has him at a feast. A feast for crows indeed.
26th Sep '17 12:58:33 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* In a Dunk and Egg prequel, there are mentions of peasants both moving to lands "where the rain still fell" due to a drought (the Sworn Sword) and inflation; "everything has been costing more of late" (The Mystery Knight). This raises the question, how are there empty plots of land for peasants to go to in and why are prices rising on a continent that has been inhabited and been in [[MedievalStasis Medieval Stasis]] for thousands of years. The answer, the [[ThePlague The Great Spring Sickness]], as after the The Black Death [[TruthInTelevision the remaining peseants demanded both wage increases and better plots of land]] [[AluminiumChristmasTrees for jobs and farms vacated by all the dead people.]]
26th Sep '17 12:57:23 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* One of those most minor cases but still pretty funny is Sam Tarly unwittingly smashing Melisandre's justifications to pieces. During ''A Clash of Kings'', Melisandre tries to justify her morality to Davos by claiming "if half of an onion is black with rot, it is a rotten onion." Much later, when the Night's Watch survivors have dragged themselves back to Craster's Keep and are being fed, one of Craster's wives gives out some onions, and Sam receives one that is half black with rot. He simply cuts it in half, tosses the rotten portion away, and eats the good half.

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* One of those most minor cases but still pretty funny is Sam Tarly unwittingly smashing Melisandre's justifications to pieces. During In ''A Clash of Kings'', Melisandre tries to justify justifies her morality to Davos by claiming "if half of an onion is black with rot, it is a rotten onion." Much later, when the Night's Watch survivors have dragged themselves back to Sam receives an onion at Craster's Keep and are being fed, one of Craster's wives gives out some onions, and Sam receives one that is half black with rot. He simply cuts it in half, tosses out the rotten portion away, and eats the good half.rest, inadvertently destroying Melisandre's justifications.



* A lion is also known as "King of the Jungle" and a stag as "King of the Forest". The Lannisters undermined the Baratheons for quite some time, which escalated into a clash of kings.



* The idea of a long summer means a long winter and the emphasis on Ice and Fire. The long winter means there is about to be an excess of ice across Westeros. However, before that there was an excess of fire due to the Mad King, who burnt people and wanted to burn King's Landing.
* Lions are predators and stags are prey. While Robert is hunting, his death is brought about by the lions.



* In a Dunk and Egg prequel, there are mentions of peasants both moving to lands "where the rain still fell" due to a drought (the Sworn Sword) and inflation; "everything has been costing more of late" (The Mystery Knight). This begs the question, how are there empty plots of land for peasents to go to in and why are prices rising on a continent that has been inhabited and been in [[MedievalStasis Medieval Stasis]] for thousands of years. The answer, the [[ThePlague The Great Spring Sickness]], as after the The Black Death [[TruthInTelevision the remaining peseants demanded both wage increases and better plots of land]] [[AluminiumChristmasTrees for jobs and farms vacated by all the dead people.]]

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* In a Dunk and Egg prequel, there are mentions of peasants both moving to lands "where the rain still fell" due to a drought (the Sworn Sword) and inflation; "everything has been costing more of late" (The Mystery Knight). This begs raises the question, how are there empty plots of land for peasents peasants to go to in and why are prices rising on a continent that has been inhabited and been in [[MedievalStasis Medieval Stasis]] for thousands of years. The answer, the [[ThePlague The Great Spring Sickness]], as after the The Black Death [[TruthInTelevision the remaining peseants demanded both wage increases and better plots of land]] [[AluminiumChristmasTrees for jobs and farms vacated by all the dead people.]]
26th Sep '17 12:49:38 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* Sansa is frequently described as a "little bird," because she's kept in a gilded cage, always says sweet things and repeats back whatever is expected of her. She's taken under the wing of [[spoiler:Petyr Baelish, masquerading as his natural daughter. Baelish]] changed his sigil to a mockingbird, which also repeats noises made by others.

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* Sansa is frequently described as a "little bird," because she's kept in a gilded cage, always says sweet things and repeats back whatever is expected of her. She's taken under the wing of [[spoiler:Petyr Petyr Baelish, masquerading as his natural daughter. Baelish]] Baelish changed his sigil to a mockingbird, which also repeats noises made by others.



* In ''A Storm of Swords,'' Tyrion thinks: "There was this to say about weddings over battles: it was less likely that someone would try to cut off your nose." As [[spoiler:two particular]] weddings in that book proved, weddings are worse than battles sometimes.
* In ''A Game of Thrones'', Arya jokes about her hypothetical coat-of-arms, wondering if it would be a wolf with a fish in its mouth. Later on [[spoiler: Arya, warged into Nymeria, pulls Catelyn's corpse out of the river]].
* Theon is described joking about Hodor that whatever else you could say about his intelligence, he definitely [[VerbalTicName knows his own name]], though he apparently forgot that "Hodor" isn't Hodor's name. Theon then [[spoiler:becomes so tortured that he's been conditioned to forget his own name]].

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* In ''A Storm of Swords,'' Tyrion thinks: "There was this to say about weddings over battles: it was less likely that someone would try to cut off your nose." As [[spoiler:two particular]] two particular weddings in that book proved, weddings are worse than battles sometimes.
* In ''A Game of Thrones'', Arya jokes about her hypothetical coat-of-arms, wondering if it would be a wolf with a fish in its mouth. Later on [[spoiler: Arya, warged into Nymeria, pulls Catelyn's corpse out of the river]].
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* Theon is described joking about Hodor that whatever else you could say about his intelligence, he definitely [[VerbalTicName knows his own name]], though he apparently forgot that "Hodor" isn't Hodor's name. Theon then [[spoiler:becomes becomes so tortured that he's been conditioned to forget his own name]].name.



* Combined with FridgeHorror. In a lot of aspects, Theon is shown to be a {{foil}} to Jon Snow. Because of this, its interesting to note that while Jon performing oral sex on Ygritte is one of the most romantic scenes in the story, [[spoiler:Ramsay]] forcing Theon to perform oral sex on [[spoiler:Jeyne Poole]] is one of the most horrific.

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* Combined with FridgeHorror. In a lot of aspects, Theon is shown to be a {{foil}} to Jon Snow. Because of this, its interesting to note that while Jon performing oral sex on Ygritte is one of the most romantic scenes in the story, [[spoiler:Ramsay]] Ramsay forcing Theon to perform oral sex on [[spoiler:Jeyne Poole]] Jeyne Poole is one of the most horrific.



* In ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' Catelyn thinks about her family's funerary customs that "''The Tullys drew their strength from the river, and it was to the river they returned when their lives had run their course''". [[spoiler: After the Red Wedding her corpse is thrown into the river as a mockery of House Tully's [[VikingFuneral traditional funeral]], but it's from the river that her corpse is taken back and [[BackFromTheDead revived]] as the vengeful Lady Stoneheart.]]

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* In ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' Catelyn thinks about her family's funerary customs that "''The Tullys drew their strength from the river, and it was to the river they returned when their lives had run their course''". [[spoiler: After the Red Wedding her corpse is thrown into the river as a mockery of House Tully's [[VikingFuneral traditional funeral]], but it's from the river that her corpse is taken back and [[BackFromTheDead revived]] as the vengeful Lady Stoneheart.]]



* At the [[spoiler:Red Wedding]], the musicians are described as terrible, then revealed shortly thereafter to be [[spoiler:crossbowmen]], explaining why their musical talents are lacking.

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* At the [[spoiler:Red Wedding]], Red Wedding, the musicians are described as terrible, then revealed shortly thereafter to be [[spoiler:crossbowmen]], crossbowmen, explaining why their musical talents are lacking.



* The Ironborn worship the Drowned God, whose eternal enemy is the Storm God. The Iron Islands first fought against the Stormlands for dominion over the Riverlands and the Greyjoys later get crushed by Robert/Stannis Baratheon, who are Stormlords. Currently Aeron, a zealot, is increasingly preaching about the struggle between the two gods and [[spoiler:it turns out that a Baratheon is coming for the Ironborn yet again and pushing them back]]. Both Victarion and Stannis are the younger brothers in charge of two of the biggest fleets in Westeros, are in the shadow of their older brothers, known for their lack of sense of humor, were in direct conflict with each other and ultimately [[spoiler:ended up turning to the Red God]].
* The Stark family Valyrian steel sword Ice [[spoiler: is melted down into two new swords, Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail. While the people who named these swords didn't realize it, the names allude to the Stark parents. Ned was haunted by a promise he swore to his sister on her deathbed and Cat was widowed at the end of the first book.]]

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* The Ironborn worship the Drowned God, whose eternal enemy is the Storm God. The Iron Islands first fought against the Stormlands for dominion over the Riverlands and the Greyjoys later get crushed by Robert/Stannis Baratheon, who are Stormlords. Currently Aeron, a zealot, is increasingly preaching about the struggle between the two gods and [[spoiler:it it turns out that a Baratheon is coming for the Ironborn yet again and pushing them back]]. back. Both Victarion and Stannis are the younger brothers in charge of two of the biggest fleets in Westeros, are in the shadow of their older brothers, known for their lack of sense of humor, were in direct conflict with each other and ultimately [[spoiler:ended ended up turning to the Red God]].
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* The Stark family Valyrian steel sword Ice [[spoiler: is melted down into two new swords, Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail. While the people who named these swords didn't realize it, the names allude to the Stark parents. Ned was haunted by a promise he swore to his sister on her deathbed and Cat was widowed at the end of the first book.]]



* The idea of a long summer means a long winter and the emphasis on Ice and Fire. The long winter means there is about to be an excess of ice across Westeros. However, before that there was an excess of fire due to the Mad King, who burnt people and [[spoiler:wanted to burn King's Landing.]]
* Lions are predators and stags are prey. While Robert is hunting, [[spoiler:his death is brought about by the lions.]]
* Lord Frey is Lord of the Crossing. However he has double castles, making him the Lord of the Double Crossing, [[spoiler:which he is adept at doing.]] He's also adept at making people uncomfortable for his own amusement - in other words, Lord Frey is a [[TrollBridge Bridge]] {{Troll}}.

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* The idea of a long summer means a long winter and the emphasis on Ice and Fire. The long winter means there is about to be an excess of ice across Westeros. However, before that there was an excess of fire due to the Mad King, who burnt people and [[spoiler:wanted wanted to burn King's Landing.]]
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* Lions are predators and stags are prey. While Robert is hunting, [[spoiler:his his death is brought about by the lions.]]
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* Lord Frey is Lord of the Crossing. However he has double castles, making him the Lord of the Double Crossing, [[spoiler:which which he is adept at doing.]] doing. He's also adept at making people uncomfortable for his own amusement - in other words, Lord Frey is a [[TrollBridge Bridge]] {{Troll}}.



* The murder of [[spoiler: Tywin at the hands of his son Tyrion]] is in several ways poetic justice.
** Firstly, [[spoiler: Tywin was found on the privy with his breeches down and took a shit as he died. When Tyrion was young Tywin had forced him to work in Casterly Rock's cisterns and drains to humiliate him]].
** Secondly, [[spoiler: a dead whore was left in his bed. Tywin had previously expressed disgust over Tyrion's whoring and threatened to hang the next whore he found in his son's bed. It's also worth noting that Tywin publicly humiliated his father's mistress in part because she wore his dead mother's jewelry and Shae wore his own jewelry, the Hand of the King necklace]].
** Thirdly, [[spoiler: Tywin accused Tyrion of [[MaternalDeathBlameTheChild killing his mother]], though Tyrion's birth was obviously not his fault. When Tyrion ''does'' become guilty of murdering his parent, Tywin is the victim]].
** Fourth, [[spoiler: Tyrion killed Tywin over what he did to Tysha. His great victories and atrocities, his family name and lineage, his power and reputation -- all the things that mattered most to him in life -- had no significance at all in regards to his death, only a young peasant girl [[ButForMeItWasTuesday whose name he didn't even remember]]]].
* The title "A Feast for Crows". It seems to refer to the fact the war is over and crows are now feasting on Westeros, a major part of the book being the fallout of the war. However, it could also refer to Euron Greyjoy, "the Crow's Eye". In this book he finally appears, [[spoiler:becomes King of the Iron Islands, and begins his campaign to conquer Westeros, one of the chapters he appears in even has him at a feast. A feast for crows indeed.]]

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* The murder of [[spoiler: Tywin at the hands of his son Tyrion]] Tyrion is in several ways poetic justice.
** Firstly, [[spoiler: Tywin was found on the privy with his breeches down and took a shit as he died. When Tyrion was young Tywin had forced him to work in Casterly Rock's cisterns and drains to humiliate him]].him.
** Secondly, [[spoiler: a A dead whore was left in his bed. Tywin had previously expressed disgust over Tyrion's whoring and threatened to hang the next whore he found in his son's bed. It's also worth noting that Tywin publicly humiliated his father's mistress in part because she wore his dead mother's jewelry and Shae wore his own jewelry, the Hand of the King necklace]].necklace.
** Thirdly, [[spoiler: Tywin accused Tyrion of [[MaternalDeathBlameTheChild killing his mother]], though Tyrion's birth was obviously not his fault. When Tyrion ''does'' become guilty of murdering his parent, Tywin is the victim]].
victim.
** Fourth, [[spoiler: Tyrion killed Tywin over what he did to Tysha. His great victories and atrocities, his family name and lineage, his power and reputation -- all the things that mattered most to him in life -- had no significance at all in regards to his death, only a young peasant girl [[ButForMeItWasTuesday whose name he didn't even remember]]]].
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* The title "A Feast for Crows". It seems to refer to the fact the war is over and crows are now feasting on Westeros, a major part of the book being the fallout of the war. However, it could also refer to Euron Greyjoy, "the Crow's Eye". In this book he finally appears, [[spoiler:becomes becomes King of the Iron Islands, and begins his campaign to conquer Westeros, one of the chapters he appears in even has him at a feast. A feast for crows indeed.]]



* The fall of the Starks begins when [[spoiler:a pair of twins]] brings harm to one of the Stark family. The culmination happens at a castle named [[spoiler:The Twins.]]
* [[spoiler: In retaliation for the Red Wedding, Wyman Manderly killed three Freys and had their flesh served to their unsuspecting kinsmen during Ramsey Bolton's wedding feast, but there's more to this method of revenge than sheer gruesomeness. Ramsey had kidnapped his cousin, Donella Hornwood, and starved her to the point that she tried to eat her own fingers. His sack of Winterfell resulted in Rickon Stark being stuck on an island inhabited by cannibals. Roose's sabotage of the Northern forces got Wyman's son Wylis imprisoned at Harrenhal, where he was forced to eat human flesh. The Freys slandered Robb Stark by claiming he turned into a wolf and ate people. [[LaserGuidedKarma Lord Manderly in turn tricked the Boltons and Freys into committing cannibalism because they had forced it upon/used it against the people he cared about]]]]. The legend, lore, religion, and law is that a lord who murders an invited guest is condemned to eat the flesh of his kin until his bloodline is wiped out.
* In A Clash of Kings, Sansa receives a silver and amethyst hairnet from Ser Dontos who instructs her to wear it to Joffrey's wedding to Margaery Tyrell. By ''A Storm of Swords'' [[spoiler: Sansa learns that the "amethysts" from her hairnet were really a crystallized version of the Strangler, used to kill Joffrey at his wedding feast when Olenna Tyrell slipped one of them into his wine. The ironic brilliance is that throughout history people believed that amethysts would protect the wearer from getting drunk or poisoned, both of which happened to Joffrey in his last moments alive.]]

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* The fall of the Starks begins when [[spoiler:a a pair of twins]] twins brings harm to one of the Stark family. The culmination happens at a castle named [[spoiler:The Twins.]]
The Twins.
* [[spoiler: In retaliation for the Red Wedding, Wyman Manderly killed three Freys and had their flesh served to their unsuspecting kinsmen during Ramsey Bolton's wedding feast, but there's more to this method of revenge than sheer gruesomeness. Ramsey had kidnapped his cousin, Donella Hornwood, and starved her to the point that she tried to eat her own fingers. His sack of Winterfell resulted in Rickon Stark being stuck on an island inhabited by cannibals. Roose's sabotage of the Northern forces got Wyman's son Wylis imprisoned at Harrenhal, where he was forced to eat human flesh. The Freys slandered Robb Stark by claiming he turned into a wolf and ate people. [[LaserGuidedKarma Lord Manderly in turn tricked the Boltons and Freys into committing cannibalism because they had forced it upon/used it against the people he cared about]]]]. The legend, lore, religion, and law is that a lord who murders an invited guest is condemned to eat the flesh of his kin until his bloodline is wiped out.
* In A Clash of Kings, Sansa receives a silver and amethyst hairnet from Ser Dontos who instructs her to wear it to Joffrey's wedding to Margaery Tyrell. By ''A Storm of Swords'' [[spoiler: Sansa learns that the "amethysts" from her hairnet were really a crystallized version of the Strangler, used to kill Joffrey at his wedding feast when Olenna Tyrell slipped one of them into his wine. The ironic brilliance is that throughout history people believed that amethysts would protect the wearer from getting drunk or poisoned, both of which happened to Joffrey in his last moments alive.]]



* The [[spoiler:Red Wedding]] is foreshadowed:

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** Theon's nightmare after conquering Winterfell. In his dream Theon is sitting by a table that is surrounded by people who are dead. [[spoiler: Theon wakes up when Robb Stark and Greywind enter the room covered with savage wounds. Theon sitting by the table foreshadows Theon's fate. In book five, Theon often reminds himself that Theon Greyjoy died in Winterfell and that only "Reek" remains]].

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** Theon's nightmare after conquering Winterfell. In his dream Theon is sitting by a table that is surrounded by people who are dead. [[spoiler: Theon wakes up when Robb Stark and Greywind enter the room covered with savage wounds. Theon sitting by the table foreshadows Theon's fate. In book five, Theon often reminds himself that Theon Greyjoy died in Winterfell and that only "Reek" remains]].remains.



** Sandor promises to take Arya to her uncle's "bloody wedding," [[spoiler:which turns out to be prophetic.]]

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** Sandor promises to take Arya to her uncle's "bloody wedding," [[spoiler:which which turns out to be prophetic.]]



* Shae recognizes a disguised Varys because she says a whore has to learn to see the man, not his appearance, or she ends up dead. This is ironic given that she [[spoiler:vastly misreads Tyrion when he confronts her after her betrayal, causing her death.]]
* Oberyn says that he'd sooner die with a breast in his hand than a weapon. [[spoiler:He dies in battle soon afterwards.]]

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* Shae recognizes a disguised Varys because she says a whore has to learn to see the man, not his appearance, or she ends up dead. This is ironic given that she [[spoiler:vastly vastly misreads Tyrion when he confronts her after her betrayal, causing her death.]]
* Oberyn says that he'd sooner die with a breast in his hand than a weapon. [[spoiler:He He dies in battle soon afterwards.]]



* It is heavily implied that [[spoiler: Theon has been gelded by Ramsay]]. Then there is the line: [[spoiler: "Lord Ramsay never took anything but skin unless you begged for it."]]
* On the suggestion of 'Reek' Theon has a pair of miller's children killed so he can pass the bodies off as belonging to [[spoiler:Rickon and Bran]]. Theon reflects that he slept with the miller's wife a few times. Given that one of the boys is young enough to pass for Rickon, Theon may well be guilty of OffingTheOffspring on top of everything else.
* Littlefinger tells Ned that Starks melt when they come below the Neck. This makes sense with the whole "Starks as ice" thing they've got going, but also remember that Ned's father was burned alive when he went to King's Landing.
** [[spoiler:Also the Stark Greatsword, Ice, is melted in the South.]]
* There are numerous references to weirwood groves being cut down and burned when people change faith. It doesn't look like a big deal (just some religious warfare), right? Then we learn, when Bran is being trained by the One-Eyed Crow, that weirwood groves [[spoiler:contain the minds of all the greenseers, and record all the history they've ever witnessed. In other words, burning a weirwood grove is like burning a thousand-year-old library composed of sentient beings.]]
* Combined with FridgeBrilliance. Almost every major castle in Westeros still has a godswood, most of which have at least one weirwood tree. Also, both public and secret messages are usually sent by messenger ravens. Now take note of the fact that this Three-Eyed Crow [[spoiler:a.k.a. Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers was one of the most successful and ruthless Masters of Whispers that the Iron Throne has ever had, and that his partial descent from the First Men most likely means he has access to both warging and greenseeing]].

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* It is heavily implied that [[spoiler: Theon has been gelded by Ramsay]]. Ramsay. Then there is the line: [[spoiler: "Lord Ramsay never took anything but skin unless you begged for it."]]
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* On the suggestion of 'Reek' Theon has a pair of miller's children killed so he can pass the bodies off as belonging to [[spoiler:Rickon Rickon and Bran]].Bran. Theon reflects that he slept with the miller's wife a few times. Given that one of the boys is young enough to pass for Rickon, Theon may well be guilty of OffingTheOffspring on top of everything else.
* Littlefinger tells Ned that Starks melt when they come below the Neck. This makes sense with the whole "Starks as ice" thing they've got going, but also remember that Ned's father was burned alive when he went to King's Landing.
** [[spoiler:Also
Landing. Also the Stark Greatsword, Ice, is melted in the South.]]
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* There are numerous references to weirwood groves being cut down and burned when people change faith. It doesn't look like a big deal (just some religious warfare), right? Then we learn, when Bran is being trained by the One-Eyed Crow, that weirwood groves [[spoiler:contain contain the minds of all the greenseers, and record all the history they've ever witnessed. In other words, burning a weirwood grove is like burning a thousand-year-old library composed of sentient beings.]]
beings.
* Combined with FridgeBrilliance. Almost every major castle in Westeros still has a godswood, most of which have at least one weirwood tree. Also, both public and secret messages are usually sent by messenger ravens. Now take note of the fact that this Three-Eyed Crow [[spoiler:a.a.k.a. Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers was one of the most successful and ruthless Masters of Whispers that the Iron Throne has ever had, and that his partial descent from the First Men most likely means he has access to both warging and greenseeing]].greenseeing.



* The Mad King put enough [[spoiler:wildfire beneath King's Landing]] to burn the city and not all of it has been discovered. If a fire breaks out in the wrong place one day...

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* The Mad King put enough [[spoiler:wildfire wildfire beneath King's Landing]] Landing to burn the city and not all of it has been discovered. If a fire breaks out in the wrong place one day...



* It's revealed in an excerpt from ''Winds of Winter'' that Littlefinger is delaying the sale of grain from the [[spoiler:Vale]], even though winter has already reached the South, waiting until his buyers are desperate enough to pay his exorbitant prices. Mind you, these are the rich Lords who can afford Littlefinger's prices and presumably would only go to feed their own peasants. How many more people who managed to survive the War of Five Kings will die of starvation in the oncoming winter?

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* It's revealed in an excerpt from ''Winds of Winter'' that Littlefinger is delaying the sale of grain from the [[spoiler:Vale]], Vale, even though winter has already reached the South, waiting until his buyers are desperate enough to pay his exorbitant prices. Mind you, these are the rich Lords who can afford Littlefinger's prices and presumably would only go to feed their own peasants. How many more people who managed to survive the War of Five Kings will die of starvation in the oncoming winter?
30th Aug '17 2:58:14 AM ruthlesstyrant
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* It's mentioned several times that Arya Stark is the one of Catelyn's children that looks like Jon Snow, thus seemingly confirming their sibling status. But it's also said that she, despite her homely appearance, looks a lot like her paternal aunt Lyanna Stark when she was her age.
11th Aug '17 7:13:28 PM Stinkoman87
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* It seems odd that certain Houses have endured for thousands of years and yet there aren't as many members of that House as would be thought. However, looking at Northern Houses explains this. Like with Brandon the Daughterless' grandson, who was a bastard but became the Stark in Winterfell, and Beren Tallhart, who could have taken the Hornwood name from his mother's side, it shows people may have taken the names of the ancient rulers to keep prestige. Meanwhile other branches took the names of the families they married.

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* It seems odd that certain Houses have endured for thousands of years and yet there aren't as many members of that House as would be thought. However, looking at Northern Houses explains this. Like with Brandon the Daughterless' grandson, who was a bastard but became the Stark in Winterfell, and Beren Tallhart, who could have taken the Hornwood name from his mother's side, it shows people may have taken the names of the ancient rulers to keep prestige. Meanwhile other branches took the names of the families they married.married, or started their own house like the Karstarks.
3rd Aug '17 10:49:25 PM Sweeper1985
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* Selyse Baratheon has fertility problems and a moustache that she's constantly plucking out. This sounds a lot like she could be experiencing Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome.
2nd Jun '17 8:14:08 PM qazwsx
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* The Mad King put enough[[spoiler: Wildfire beneath King's Landing]] to burn the city and not all of it has been discovered. If a fire breaks out in the wrong place one day...

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* The Mad King put enough[[spoiler: Wildfire enough [[spoiler:wildfire beneath King's Landing]] to burn the city and not all of it has been discovered. If a fire breaks out in the wrong place one day...
8th Mar '17 11:25:05 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* [[spoiler: In retaliation for the Red Wedding, Wyman Manderly killed three Freys and had their flesh served to their unsuspecting kinsmen during Ramsey Bolton's wedding feast, but there's more to this method of revenge than sheer gruesomeness. Ramsey had kidnapped his cousin, Donella Hornwood, and starved her to the point that she tried to eat her own fingers. His sack of Winterfell resulted in Rickon Stark being stuck on an island inhabited by cannibals. Roose's sabotage of the Northern forces got Wyman's son Wylis imprisoned at Harrenhal, where he was forced to eat human flesh. The Freys slandered Robb Stark by claiming he turned into a wolf and ate people. [[LaserGuidedKarma Lord Manderly in turn tricked the Boltons and Freys into committing cannibalism because they had forced it upon/used it against the people he cared about]]]].
* The above is even foreshadowed. The legend, lore, religion, and law is that a lord who murders an invited guest is condemned to eat the flesh of his kin until his bloodline is wiped out.
* This troper has noted that the Others actually share some similarities with vampires. Both are described as pale and strangely beautiful. Both can turn humans into members of their race. Both can resurrect the dead, (depending on the vampire lore, and vampires are often undead themselves) and are associated with the night and the cold. Both have a weakness related to heat and getting stabbed. For the Others, it's dragonglass, Valyrian steel and probably dragon fire. For vampires, it's the sun and stakes. Vampires usually turn to dust when they die, and Others turn into puddles. So, the Others are a mixture of the Sidhe and vampires. But you know what makes this really awesome? When you remember that the traditional enemies of vampires are werewolves, and the Starks are often associated with wolves! With all the Stark kids being skin changers who had a direwolf at some point or another....well, draw your own conclusions.
** I would further like to elaborate by acknowledging that Roose Bolton is pretty much Dracula. Given how the Boltons and Starks are mortal enemies, it makes sense.
* In A Clash of Kings, Sansa receives a silver and amethyst hairnet from Ser Dontos who instructs her to wear it to Joffrey's wedding to Margaery Tyrell. By A Storm of Swords [[spoiler: Sansa learns that the "amethysts" from her hairnet were really a crystallized version of the Strangler, used to kill Joffrey at his wedding feast when Olenna Tyrell slipped one of them into his wine. The ironic brilliance is that throughout history people believed that amethysts would protect the wearer from getting drunk or poisoned, both of which happened to Joffrey in his last moments alive.]]

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* [[spoiler: In retaliation for the Red Wedding, Wyman Manderly killed three Freys and had their flesh served to their unsuspecting kinsmen during Ramsey Bolton's wedding feast, but there's more to this method of revenge than sheer gruesomeness. Ramsey had kidnapped his cousin, Donella Hornwood, and starved her to the point that she tried to eat her own fingers. His sack of Winterfell resulted in Rickon Stark being stuck on an island inhabited by cannibals. Roose's sabotage of the Northern forces got Wyman's son Wylis imprisoned at Harrenhal, where he was forced to eat human flesh. The Freys slandered Robb Stark by claiming he turned into a wolf and ate people. [[LaserGuidedKarma Lord Manderly in turn tricked the Boltons and Freys into committing cannibalism because they had forced it upon/used it against the people he cared about]]]].
* The above is even foreshadowed.
about]]]]. The legend, lore, religion, and law is that a lord who murders an invited guest is condemned to eat the flesh of his kin until his bloodline is wiped out.
* This troper has noted that the Others actually share some similarities with vampires. Both are described as pale and strangely beautiful. Both can turn humans into members of their race. Both can resurrect the dead, (depending on the vampire lore, and vampires are often undead themselves) and are associated with the night and the cold. Both have a weakness related to heat and getting stabbed. For the Others, it's dragonglass, Valyrian steel and probably dragon fire. For vampires, it's the sun and stakes. Vampires usually turn to dust when they die, and Others turn into puddles. So, the Others are a mixture of the Sidhe and vampires. But you know what makes this really awesome? When you remember that the traditional enemies of vampires are werewolves, and the Starks are often associated with wolves! With all the Stark kids being skin changers who had a direwolf at some point or another....well, draw your own conclusions.
** I would further like to elaborate by acknowledging that Roose Bolton is pretty much Dracula. Given how the Boltons and Starks are mortal enemies, it makes sense.
* In A Clash of Kings, Sansa receives a silver and amethyst hairnet from Ser Dontos who instructs her to wear it to Joffrey's wedding to Margaery Tyrell. By A ''A Storm of Swords Swords'' [[spoiler: Sansa learns that the "amethysts" from her hairnet were really a crystallized version of the Strangler, used to kill Joffrey at his wedding feast when Olenna Tyrell slipped one of them into his wine. The ironic brilliance is that throughout history people believed that amethysts would protect the wearer from getting drunk or poisoned, both of which happened to Joffrey in his last moments alive.]]
* It's never explained, but Jon Connington's alias "Griff" is a reference to his family arms, which feature griffons.
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