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* The Three Precious/Noble Children of Izanami:
** Ego: Amaterasu -- The divine Kami of the Sun, and easily one of Japan's most respected deity. It is said, that her lineage represents the Japanese Royal Family, you see today. She aided the early Japanese society, including empowering women, which was very unique at the time.
** Superego: Tsukuyomi -- Kami of the Moon, the [[AmbiguousGender genderless]] deity with apparently very high standards. They killed Ukemochi, the goddess of food for the disgusting way she prepared her banquet. However this would only upset Amaterasu, causing a bitter separation of the two.
** Id: Susanoo -- Kami of Storms, Sea and Fields. A notably powerful warrior and the younger sibling of Amaterasu. Susanoo was wild, impetuous and a very brave fighter (especially against Yamata no Orochi). He was also the most badly behaved deity, having been banished and frequently exacting the wrath of the divines as punishment.

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* The Three Precious/Noble Children of Izanami:
Izanagi:
** Ego: Amaterasu -- The divine Kami of the Sun, and easily one of Japan's most respected deity. deities. It is said, said that her lineage represents the Japanese Royal Family, Family you see today. She aided the early Japanese society, including empowering women, which was very unique at the time.
** Superego: Tsukuyomi -- Kami of the Moon, the [[AmbiguousGender genderless]] deity with apparently very high standards. They killed Ukemochi, the goddess of food food, for the disgusting way she prepared her banquet. However However, this would only upset Amaterasu, causing a bitter separation of the two.
** Id: Susanoo -- Kami of Storms, Sea the Sea, and Fields. A notably powerful warrior and the younger sibling of Amaterasu. Susanoo was wild, impetuous impetuous, and a very brave fighter (especially against Yamata no Orochi). He was also the most badly behaved deity, having been banished and frequently exacting the wrath of the divines as punishment.
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** Ego: Amaterasu -- The divine Kami of the Sun, and easily one of Japan's most respected deity. It is said, that her lineage represents the Japanese Royal Family, you see today.

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** Ego: Amaterasu -- The divine Kami of the Sun, and easily one of Japan's most respected deity. It is said, that her lineage represents the Japanese Royal Family, you see today. She aided the early Japanese society, including empowering women, which was very unique at the time.

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* Id: Lemminkäinen -- A young Kasanova whose temper and dick keep getting him into trouble to the point where his mom had to reassemble and resurrect him.

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* Id: Lemminkäinen -- A young Kasanova whose temper and dick keep getting him into trouble to the point where his mom had to reassemble and resurrect him.him.

''Myth/JapaneseMythology''
* The Three Precious/Noble Children of Izanami:
** Ego: Amaterasu -- The divine Kami of the Sun, and easily one of Japan's most respected deity. It is said, that her lineage represents the Japanese Royal Family, you see today.
** Superego: Tsukuyomi -- Kami of the Moon, the [[AmbiguousGender genderless]] deity with apparently very high standards. They killed Ukemochi, the goddess of food for the disgusting way she prepared her banquet. However this would only upset Amaterasu, causing a bitter separation of the two.
** Id: Susanoo -- Kami of Storms, Sea and Fields. A notably powerful warrior and the younger sibling of Amaterasu. Susanoo was wild, impetuous and a very brave fighter (especially against Yamata no Orochi). He was also the most badly behaved deity, having been banished and frequently exacting the wrath of the divines as punishment.
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''[[KingArthur Arthurian Legend]]''''Myth/ArthurianLegend''
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** Superego: [[TheProtectorate Thor]], noble and heroic protector of humanity, associated with order, cares about wether the gods keep their vows. In a warrior culture, this is perfectly compatible with being a FieryRedhead meelee warrior, as that was what you "should" be. (This role is also sometimes filled by Odin's wife Frigg, "protectress of well-behaved girls" and traditonal rules.)

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** Superego: [[TheProtectorate [[{{Protectorate}} Thor]], noble and heroic protector of humanity, associated with order, cares about wether whether or not the gods keep their vows. In a warrior culture, this is perfectly compatible with being a FieryRedhead meelee warrior, as that was what you "should" be. (This role is also sometimes filled by Odin's wife Frigg, "protectress of well-behaved girls" and traditonal rules.)
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* Id: Shiva -- The deity that comes along at the end of time to destroy everything so that it can be reborn

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* Id: Shiva -- The deity that comes along at the end of time to destroy everything so that it can be rebornreborn


''Literature/TheKalevala''
* Superego: Väinämöinen -- The old sorcerer - demigod who tries diplomacy first.
* Ego: Ilmarinen -- An honest working family man.
* Id: Lemminkäinen -- A young Kasanova whose temper and dick keep getting him into trouble to the point where his mom had to reassemble and resurrect him.
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* Id: Gawain -- HotBlooded {{Badass}} AntiHero of Arthur's court; will kill, without question or orders, anyone who so much as insults him or his friends. Loves women, partying, and fighting.

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* Id: Gawain -- HotBlooded {{Badass}} badass AntiHero of Arthur's court; will kill, without question or orders, anyone who so much as insults him or his friends. Loves women, partying, and fighting.
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* Among the Aesir:
** Superego: [[TheProtectorate Thor]], noble and heroic protector of humanity, associated with order, cares about wether the gods keep their vows. In a warrior culture, this is perfectly compatible with being a FieryRedhead meelee warrior, as that was what you "should" be. (This role is also sometimes filled by Odin's wife Frigg, "protectress of well-behaved girls" and traditonal rules.)
** Ego: [[MagicKnight Odin]], God of War and fury, but also of wisdom and magic, and leader of the clan. Pragmatic and not beyond the occasional underhanded tactic, but ultimately motivated by postponing the apocalypse as long as possible.
** Id: [[VoluntaryShapeshifter Loki]] - Associated with Chaos, whimsical, trickster, has a host of sexual misadventures, entered into the clan through becoming Odin's blood brother, but is originally one of the afore-mentioned Jötnar.
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''ClassicalMythology''''Myth/ClassicalMythology''



''NorseMythology''

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** Ego: [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]] -- They interact with the Jotnar[[note]]sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them[[/note]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between.

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** Ego: [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]] -- They interact with the Jotnar[[note]]sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them[[/note]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between.
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* The grandchildren of Atreus (central characters in ''TheOresteia''):

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* The grandchildren of Atreus (central characters in ''TheOresteia''):''Theatre/TheOresteia''):
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** Zeus/Jupiter: Impulsive, greedy, prone to huge temper-tantrums, entirely motivated by his sex drive (Id).
** Poseidon/Neptune: Depending on the mood, could be reasonable or nuts. But in general less impulsive than Zeus and less rigid than Hades. (Ego)
** Hades/Pluto: Brooding, morbid, obsessed with rules and laws. (Superego)
*** Debatable, depending on your source. In some myths Zeus, god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws (but not in a rigid/unrealistic manner) (Ego), while Poseidon, as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble (Id). It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence. Of course, Classical myth is one huge ContinuitySnarl, so this is to be expected.

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** Zeus/Jupiter: ** Id: Zeus/Jupiter -- Impulsive, greedy, prone to huge temper-tantrums, entirely motivated by his sex drive (Id).
** Poseidon/Neptune:
drive.
** Ego: Poseidon/Neptune --
Depending on the mood, could be reasonable or nuts. But in general less impulsive than Zeus and less rigid than Hades. (Ego)
** Hades/Pluto:
Hades.
** Superego: Hades/Pluto --
Brooding, morbid, obsessed with rules and laws. (Superego)
*** Debatable, depending on your source. In
laws.
*** [[DependingOnTheWriter Although in
some myths Zeus, myths]] Ego is Zeus -- god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws (but not in a rigid/unrealistic manner) (Ego), manner), while Poseidon, Id is Poseidon -- as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble (Id).causing trouble. It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence. Of course, Classical myth is one huge ContinuitySnarl, so this is to be expected.



** Elektra: Angry, vengeful and bloodthirsty, her hatred rules her quest for vengeance (Id)
** Orestes: Ready for battle, but willing to stop and think first. Unfortunately, this leads him to wimp out at crucial moments, and he must depend on his friends for help. (Ego)
** Pylades: Wise, clever AND level-headed, a rarity in Greek myths, who only speaks when it's absolutely necessary, but then, his words are perfect. (Superego)

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** Elektra: Id: Elektra -- Angry, vengeful and bloodthirsty, her hatred rules her quest for vengeance (Id)
** Orestes: Ego: Orestes -- Ready for battle, but willing to stop and think first. Unfortunately, this leads him to wimp out at crucial moments, and he must depend on his friends for help. (Ego)
help.
** Pylades: Superego: Pylades -- Wise, clever AND level-headed, a rarity in Greek myths, who only speaks when it's absolutely necessary, but then, his words are perfect. (Superego)perfect.



** Aphrodite: Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
** Hera: Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
** Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)

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** Aphrodite: Id: Aphrodite -- Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
commitment
** Hera: Ego: Hera -- Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
virgin.
** Athena: Superego: Athena -- More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)
virgin.



** [[OurGiantsAreBigger Jotnar]]: They tend to want to revert the Universe back to its original state of pure chaos.[[note]]Not all members of the Jotnar are like this, however.[[/note]] (Id)
** Humanity: We tend to prefer rules[[note]]we give ourselves laws and regulations to adhere to[[/note]] and classify/organize things into categories, subcategories, and even sub-subcategories. (Superego)
** [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]]: They interact with the Jotnar[[note]]sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them[[/note]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between. (Ego)

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** Id: [[OurGiantsAreBigger Jotnar]]: Jotnar]] -- They tend to want to revert the Universe back to its original state of pure chaos.[[note]]Not all members of the Jotnar are like this, however.[[/note]] (Id)
[[/note]]
** Humanity: Superego: Humanity -- We tend to prefer rules[[note]]we give ourselves laws and regulations to adhere to[[/note]] and classify/organize things into categories, subcategories, and even sub-subcategories. (Superego)
sub-subcategories.
** Ego: [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]]: Vanir]] -- They interact with the Jotnar[[note]]sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them[[/note]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between. (Ego)
go-between.



* Gawain: HotBlooded {{Badass}} AntiHero of Arthur's court; will kill, without question or orders, anyone who so much as insults him or his friends. Loves women, partying, and fighting. (Id)
* Lancelot: The ultimate knight, Arthur's Right-Hand-Man; ever-questing for glory for God and King, and seeking enlightenment through the Code of Chivalry. (Super Ego)
* Arthur: Mediator between all the knights, especially the above two, who are notably good friends despite absolutely hating each other. Has his faults (women, women, women), but in the end you can't ask for a better leader. (Ego)

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* Gawain: * Id: Gawain -- HotBlooded {{Badass}} AntiHero of Arthur's court; will kill, without question or orders, anyone who so much as insults him or his friends. Loves women, partying, and fighting. (Id)
* Lancelot:
fighting.
* Superego: Lancelot --
The ultimate knight, Arthur's Right-Hand-Man; ever-questing for glory for God and King, and seeking enlightenment through the Code of Chivalry. (Super Ego)
* Arthur:
Chivalry.
* Ego: Arthur --
Mediator between all the knights, especially the above two, who are notably good friends despite absolutely hating each other. Has his faults (women, women, women), but in the end you can't ask for a better leader. (Ego)
leader.



* Brahma: The creator deity who brings the universe into being (Superego)
* Vishnu: The one who preserves the universe in the here and now sustaining its existence (Ego)
* Shiva: The deity that comes along at the end of time to destroy everything so that it can be reborn (Id)

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* Brahma: Superego: Brahma -- The creator deity who brings the universe into being (Superego)
being
* Vishnu: Ego: Vishnu -- The one who preserves the universe in the here and now sustaining its existence (Ego)
existence
* Shiva: Id: Shiva -- The deity that comes along at the end of time to destroy everything so that it can be reborn (Id)reborn
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''HinduMythology''

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''HinduMythology''''Myth/HinduMythology''
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* The grandchildren of Atreus:

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* The grandchildren of Atreus:Atreus (central characters in ''TheOresteia''):
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*** Debatable, depending on your source. In some myths Zeus, god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws, while Poseidon, as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble. It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence.

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*** Debatable, depending on your source. In some myths Zeus, god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws, laws (but not in a rigid/unrealistic manner) (Ego), while Poseidon, as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble.trouble (Id). It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence. Of course, Classical myth is one huge ContinuitySnarl, so this is to be expected.
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''Arthurian Mythology''

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''Arthurian Mythology''''[[KingArthur Arthurian Legend]]''



''Hindu Mythology''

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''Hindu Mythology''''HinduMythology''
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* *Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)

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* *Athena: **Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)

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''Greek and Roman Myth''
* Zeus/Jupiter: Impulsive, greedy, prone to huge temper-tantrums, entirely motivated by his sex drive (Id).
* Poseidon/Neptune: Depending on the mood, could be reasonable or nuts. But in general less impulsive than Zeus and less rigid than Hades. (Ego)
* Hades/Pluto: Brooding, morbid, obsessed with rules and laws. (Superego)
** Debatable, depending on your source. In some myths Zeus, god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws, while Poseidon, as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble. It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence.

* Elektra: Angry, vengeful and bloodthirsty, her hatred rules her quest for vengece (Id)
* Orestes: Ready for battle, but willing to stop and think first. Unfortunatly, this leads him to wimp out at crucial mments, and he must depend on his friends for help. (Ego)
* Pylades: Wise, clever AND leval headed, a rarity in Greekn myths, who only speaks when it's absolutey neccssary, but then, his words are perfect. (Superego)

* Aphrodite: Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
* Hera: Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
* Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)

''Norse Myth''

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''Greek and Roman Myth''
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''ClassicalMythology''
* Sons of Kronos/Saturn: The most powerful male Olympians:
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Zeus/Jupiter: Impulsive, greedy, prone to huge temper-tantrums, entirely motivated by his sex drive (Id).
* ** Poseidon/Neptune: Depending on the mood, could be reasonable or nuts. But in general less impulsive than Zeus and less rigid than Hades. (Ego)
* ** Hades/Pluto: Brooding, morbid, obsessed with rules and laws. (Superego)
** *** Debatable, depending on your source. In some myths Zeus, god of law over men and hospitality, is the mediator between other gods and the enforcer of laws, while Poseidon, as roiling and angry as the sea, causes trouble. It was Zeus, after all, who decreed that the gods should stop interfering in the Trojan War, and who swallowed the Goddess of Prudence.

Prudence.
* The grandchildren of Atreus:
**
Elektra: Angry, vengeful and bloodthirsty, her hatred rules her quest for vengece vengeance (Id)
* ** Orestes: Ready for battle, but willing to stop and think first. Unfortunatly, Unfortunately, this leads him to wimp out at crucial mments, moments, and he must depend on his friends for help. (Ego)
* ** Pylades: Wise, clever AND leval headed, level-headed, a rarity in Greekn Greek myths, who only speaks when it's absolutey neccssary, absolutely necessary, but then, his words are perfect.perfect. (Superego)
* The great female Olympians:
** Aphrodite: Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
** Hera: Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
* *Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin.
(Superego)

* Aphrodite: Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
* Hera: Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
* Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)

''Norse Myth''
''NorseMythology''
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** [[OurGiantsAreBigger Jotnar]]: They tend to want to revert the Universe back to its original state of pure chaos. [[hottip:*:Not all members of the Jotnar are like this, however.]] (Id)
** Humanity: We tend to prefer rules[[hottip:*:We give ourselves laws and regulations to adhere to.]] and classify/organize things into categories, subcategories, and even sub-subcategories. (Superego)
** [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]]: They interact with the Jotnar[[hottip:*:Sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them.]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between. (Ego)

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** [[OurGiantsAreBigger Jotnar]]: They tend to want to revert the Universe back to its original state of pure chaos. [[hottip:*:Not [[note]]Not all members of the Jotnar are like this, however.]] [[/note]] (Id)
** Humanity: We tend to prefer rules[[hottip:*:We rules[[note]]we give ourselves laws and regulations to adhere to.]] to[[/note]] and classify/organize things into categories, subcategories, and even sub-subcategories. (Superego)
** [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]]: They interact with the Jotnar[[hottip:*:Sometimes Jotnar[[note]]sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them.]] them[[/note]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between. (Ego)

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After a second look, I realized (1) those three Gods aren\'t a trio, (2) Thor doesn\'t really fit the Id and Odin doesn\'t really fit the Superego, and (3) it\'s a forced example given my first point.


* Odin: Always seeking wisdom and enforcing the law (just ask king Víkar). (Superego)
* Thor: greatest desire is to smash the giants and trolls with his lightning hammer. (Id)
* Frey: In his most famous myth, Frey debates whether to follow his heart and mary a giantess or not. (Ego)
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* Odin: Always seeking wisdom and enforcing the law (just ask king Víkar). (Superego)
* Thor: greatest desire is to smash the giants and trolls with his lightning hammer. (Id)
* Frey:
* In his most famous myth, Frey debates whether to follow his heart and mary a giantess or not. (Ego)
* Taken a step further when you look at some of the
different groups in Norse Mythology:
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* Aphrodite: Free spirited, sexually open, not shackled down by any duties, reputation, or commitment (Id)
* Hera: Occasionally impulsive (regarding her husbands other lovers), yet still complies with her responsibilities as a wife, not as sexually open as Aphrodite but not a virgin. (Ego)
* Athena: More concerned about learning, has no interest in marriage or any relationships at all, still a virgin. (Superego)
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** What version is that from? In Gawain and the Green Knight he's actually rather timid. He admits to being the poorest fighter of all Arthurs knights and later proves to have incredible restraint and chastity. He's also very bound to honorable conduct.
** It has been speculated that Sir Gawain was frequently trashed by French romances since he was considered the paradigmatic English knight. Some critics read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight as a rebuttal and a subversion of the French mockery of Gawain and adulation of Lancelot. However, the French version stuck, and authors from Chretien de Troyes to T.H. White have portrayed Gawain as hot headed, lecherous, and frequently a bit un-chivalrous.

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* Taken a step further when you look at some of the different groups in Norse Mythology:
** [[OurGiantsAreBigger Jotnar]]: They tend to want to revert the Universe back to its original state of pure chaos. [[hottip:*:Not all members of the Jotnar are like this, however.]] (Id)
** Humanity: We tend to prefer rules[[hottip:*:We give ourselves laws and regulations to adhere to.]] and classify/organize things into categories, subcategories, and even sub-subcategories. (Superego)
** [[NorseMythology The Aesir & Vanir]]: They interact with the Jotnar[[hottip:*:Sometimes marrying them, sometimes killing them.]] and humanity, even acting as a viable go-between. (Ego)
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** It has been speculated that Sir Gawain was frequently trashed by French romances since he was considered the paradigmatic English knight. Some critics read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight as a rebuttal and a subversion of the French mockery of Gawain and adulation of Lancelot. However, the French version stuck, and authors from Chretien de Troyes to T.H. White have portrayed Gawain as hot headed, lecherous, and frequently a bit un-chivalrous.
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** What version is that from? In Gawain and the Green Knight he's actually rather timid. He admits to being the poorest fighter of all Arthurs knights and later proves to have incredible restraint and chastity. He's also very bound to honorable conduct.
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''Hindu Mythology''
* Brahma: The creator deity who brings the universe into being (Superego)
* Vishnu: The one who preserves the universe in the here and now sustaining its existence (Ego)
* Shiva: The deity that comes along at the end of time to destroy everything so that it can be reborn (Id)

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