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* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': Marvel Girl and others come to recognize that it's not surprising that Wolverine is as cynical and violent as he is after the torture and exploitation he endured in Weapon X.

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* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen2001'': Marvel Girl and others come to recognize that it's not surprising that Wolverine is as cynical and violent as he is after the torture and exploitation he endured in Weapon X.
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** One of the few "abusive father" backstories that really works: Harvey Dent/Two-Face's violent, sadistic alternate persona, called "Big Bad Harv" in [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the cartoon]], emerged as Harvey's way of coping with a drunken, abusive father. In the comic in which this element of the character was introduced, it's revealed that his father would take Harvey and "play a game" with him, flipping a silver dollar and beating the child if it came up heads. [[KickTheDog The coin had two heads]]. The nature of Two-Face's father's abuse varies slightly depending on the story. One story suggested that his dad had a split personality himself, and would violently beat Harvey when he was angry with him before realizing in horror what he was doing.

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** One of the few "abusive father" backstories that really works: Harvey Dent/Two-Face's violent, sadistic alternate persona, called "Big Bad Harv" in [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the cartoon]], emerged as Harvey's way of coping with a drunken, abusive father. In the comic in which this element of the character was introduced, it's revealed that his father would take Harvey and "play a game" with him, flipping a silver dollar and beating the child if it came up heads. [[KickTheDog The coin had two heads]]. The nature of Two-Face's father's abuse varies slightly depending on the story. One story suggested that his dad had a split personality himself, and would violently beat Harvey when he was angry with him before realizing in horror what he was doing.
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** Vargen was an orphan who was adopted by a criminal gang and raised to be a thief. He fell in love with a rich girl and decided to become honest, only to end up [[HeelFaceDoorSlam taking the fall for a robbery anyway]]. His response was: [[ThenLetMeBeEvil "Yes, I'll be a thief, and I'll be ''the worst!''"]] (However, he later [[FaceHeelTurn reformed]].)

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** Vargen was an orphan who was adopted by a criminal gang and raised to be a thief. He fell in love with a rich girl and decided to become honest, only to end up [[HeelFaceDoorSlam taking the fall for a robbery anyway]]. His response was: [[ThenLetMeBeEvil "Yes, I'll be a thief, and I'll be ''the worst!''"]] be]] ''[[ThenLetMeBeEvil the worst!"]]'' (However, he later [[FaceHeelTurn reformed]].)
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* Swedish children's comic ''ComicBook/Bamse'' has this for two of the main villains:

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* Swedish children's comic ''ComicBook/Bamse'' has this for two of the main villains:
** Vargen was an orphan who was adopted by a criminal gang and raised to be a thief. He fell in love with a rich girl and decided to become honest, only to end up [[HeelFaceDoorSlam taking the fall for a robbery anyway]]. His response was: [[ThenLetMeBeEvil "Yes, I'll be a thief, and I'll be ''the worst!''"]] (However, he later [[FaceHeelTurn reformed]].)
** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Krösus Sork]] grew up in a wealthy family, but was TheUnfavorite, with his father neglecting him and spoiling his brother Slösus, which in turn resulted in Krösus being bullied by his classmates for never having any money. This led to his {{greed}} as an adult.
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** Doctor Octopus was bullied as a child, and had an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness which created the accident that made him a villain. It's also established in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat him, which is one of the reasons why Ock WouldntHurtAChild.

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** Doctor Octopus ComicBook/DoctorOctopus was bullied as a child, and had an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness which created the accident that made him a villain. It's also established in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat him, which is one of the reasons why Ock WouldntHurtAChild.



** Mysterio was once just an excitable little kid who wanted, more than anything, to make movies and entertain people. It took his abusive father breaking his toys, camera, and spirit before Quentin's lighthearted hopes became twisted desires for fame and power.

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** Mysterio ComicBook/{{Mysterio}} was once just an excitable little kid who wanted, more than anything, to make movies and entertain people. It took his abusive father breaking his toys, camera, and spirit before Quentin's lighthearted hopes became twisted desires for fame and power.



** While some say Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.

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** While some say Norman Osborn/The ComicBook/NormanOsborn/The Green Goblin had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.

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** Dr. Octopus: Bullied as a child, with an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness that created the accident that made him a villain. It's also established in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat the shit out of him, which is one of the reasons why Ock WouldntHurtAChild.
** Electro: Abusive father who left him and his mother, followed by his mother being overprotective and discouraging him from pursuing his goals. To make this worse, after she died, a marriage that went sour and ended in divorce only made him more bitter.

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** Dr. Octopus: Bullied Doctor Octopus was bullied as a child, with and had an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness that which created the accident that made him a villain. It's also established in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat the shit out of him, which is one of the reasons why Ock WouldntHurtAChild.
** Electro: Abusive Electro had an abusive father who left him and his mother, followed by his mother being overprotective and discouraging him from pursuing his goals. To make this worse, after she died, a marriage that went sour and ended in divorce only made him more bitter.bitter.
** Mysterio was once just an excitable little kid who wanted, more than anything, to make movies and entertain people. It took his abusive father breaking his toys, camera, and spirit before Quentin's lighthearted hopes became twisted desires for fame and power.



** The Green Goblin: While some say Norman had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.

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** The Green Goblin: While some say Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.
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* Has been used at times to explain the motives of ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' villains, and to possibly contrast them with Spidey himself, who did not exactly have the best childhood. The worst example was when ComicBook/{{Venom}} was given a cliched tragic backstory (complete with the drunk, abusive father) as part of a bad idea to turn the character into a hero. Some other examples:

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* Has ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': This has been used at times to explain the motives of ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' various villains, and to possibly contrast them with Spidey himself, who did not exactly have the best childhood. The worst example was when ComicBook/{{Venom}} was given a cliched tragic backstory (complete with the drunk, abusive father) as part of a bad idea to turn the character into a hero. Some other examples:
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** An early [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] story has Cap the prisoner of the Red Skull, who tells Cap of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and only finding work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories... which would make this one rare example of Cap being a hypocritical douche, since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[{{Understatement}} thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse... or it could simply reinforce Cap's argumentsm as both Cap and the Skull went through hard times, but Cap might have been able to work hard enough in school and out to go to college, possibly on a scholarship.

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** An early [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] story has Cap the prisoner of the Red Skull, who tells Cap of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and only finding work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories... which would make this one rare example of Cap being a hypocritical douche, since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[{{Understatement}} thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse... or it could simply reinforce Cap's argumentsm arguments, as both Cap and the Skull went through hard times, but Cap might have been able to work hard enough in school and out to go to college, possibly on a scholarship.
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** The Riddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles. In the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum ''video game, Riddler tells his Arkham shrink that his abusive father (who constantly called him a moron), accused him of cheating on a school logic puzzle, and beat him for lying. When the shrink tells him she's sorry to hear that, Riddler proudly proclaims that father was right and he HAD cheated.

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** The Riddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles. In the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum ''video ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' video game, Riddler tells his Arkham shrink that his abusive father (who constantly called him a moron), accused him of cheating on a school logic puzzle, and beat him for lying. When the shrink tells him she's sorry to hear that, Riddler proudly proclaims that father was right and he HAD ''had'' cheated.

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* You could say that for the last 40 or 50 years the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' franchise is built on this trope: Anyone born looking like Waylon "Killer Croc" Jones would have trouble leading a normal life; Bane was forced to live out his escaped father's life sentence, and so on. Some are a bit suspect -- Scarecrow was bullied as a child, yes, but so were a lot of us, and yet we didn't turn evil.

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* You could say that for the last 40 or 50 years the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' franchise is built on this trope: Anyone born looking like Waylon "Killer Croc" Jones would have trouble leading a normal life; Bane was forced to live out his escaped father's life sentence, and so on. Some are a bit suspect -- Scarecrow was bullied as a child, yes, but so were a lot of us, and yet we didn't turn evil.



** Oh, and Killer Croc once teamed up with fellow biological misfit Baby Doll, and they were quite successful -- but apparently being a JerkAss at heart, he decided to ditch her, at which point she snapped on him.
** One of the few "abusive father" backstories that really works: Harvey Dent[=/=]ComicBook/TwoFace's violent, sadistic alternate persona, called "Big Bad Harv" in [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the cartoon]], emerged as Harvey's way of coping with a drunken, abusive father. In the comic in which this element of the character was introduced, it's revealed that his father would take Harvey and "play a game" with him, flipping a silver dollar and beating the child if it came up heads. [[KickTheDog The coin had two heads.]]
** The nature of Two-Face's father's abuse varies slightly depending on the story. One story suggested that his dad had a split personality himself, and would violently beat Harvey when he was angry with him before realizing in horror what he was doing.
** The Riddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles.
** In the Batman: Arkham Asylum video game, Riddler tells his Arkham shrink that his abusive father (who constantly called him a moron), accused him of cheating on a school logic puzzle, and beat him for lying. When the shrink tells him she's sorry to hear that, Riddler proudly proclaims that father was right and he HAD cheated.
** Scarecrow gets an [[MommyIssues abusive great-grandmother and maternal abandonment]], as well as vicious school bullying.

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** Oh, and Killer Croc once teamed up with fellow biological misfit Baby Doll, and they were quite successful -- but apparently being a JerkAss at heart, he decided to ditch her, at which point she snapped on him.
** One of the few "abusive father" backstories that really works: Harvey Dent[=/=]ComicBook/TwoFace's Dent/Two-Face's violent, sadistic alternate persona, called "Big Bad Harv" in [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the cartoon]], emerged as Harvey's way of coping with a drunken, abusive father. In the comic in which this element of the character was introduced, it's revealed that his father would take Harvey and "play a game" with him, flipping a silver dollar and beating the child if it came up heads. [[KickTheDog The coin had two heads.]]
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heads]]. The nature of Two-Face's father's abuse varies slightly depending on the story. One story suggested that his dad had a split personality himself, and would violently beat Harvey when he was angry with him before realizing in horror what he was doing.
** The Riddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles.
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riddles. In the Batman: Arkham Asylum video ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum ''video game, Riddler tells his Arkham shrink that his abusive father (who constantly called him a moron), accused him of cheating on a school logic puzzle, and beat him for lying. When the shrink tells him she's sorry to hear that, Riddler proudly proclaims that father was right and he HAD cheated.
** Scarecrow gets an [[MommyIssues abusive great-grandmother and maternal abandonment]], abandonment, as well as vicious school bullying.



** A perfect example of the slimy psychiatrist appears in Creator/FrankMiller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', in the form of Dr. Wolper, who attempts to present ''the Joker'' as being a mere victim of Batman's psychosis. In thanks, the Joker snaps his neck on live television (while gassing the studio) -- although it's suggested that the psychiatrist, [[StrawCharacter irritating, blinkered and naive jerk]] though he may be, might have a point, as the Joker had spent the period that Batman had been absent from Gotham City in a catatonic state that he only emerged from when Batman returned.
** This is turned on its head in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', in which the corrupt psychiatrist, when his "clients" cease to be useful to him, uses a neurotoxin to render them ''legitimately'' insane. (According to Cillian Murphy, Scarecrow's comic backstory- or at least the bullying part- is canon to the films.)
** The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Trial" has the ''villains'' putting Batman on trial for ruining their lives. Even they end up admitting that they had problems, some self-inflicted, before Batman became involved. Being villains, they try to follow up the verdict of innocence with an execution, regardless.

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** A perfect example of the [[PsychoPsychologist slimy psychiatrist psychiatrist]] who uses this trope to exonerate a criminal appears in Creator/FrankMiller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', in the form of Dr. Wolper, who attempts to present ''the Joker'' as being a mere victim of Batman's psychosis. In thanks, the Joker snaps his neck on live television (while gassing the studio) -- although it's suggested that the psychiatrist, [[StrawCharacter irritating, blinkered and naive jerk]] though he may be, might have a point, as the Joker had spent the period that Batman had been absent from Gotham City in a catatonic state that he only emerged from when Batman returned.
** This is turned on its head in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', in which the corrupt psychiatrist, when psychiatrist Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow, who uses the InsanityDefense to keep his "clients" cease to be useful to him, out of jail, uses a neurotoxin to render them ''legitimately'' insane. (According insane when they cease to Cillian Murphy, be useful to him. ([[WordOfSaintPaul According to]] Creator/CillianMurphy, Scarecrow's comic backstory- backstory -- or at least the bullying part- part -- is canon to the films.)
** The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Trial" "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE3Trial Trial]]" has the ''villains'' putting Batman on trial for ruining their lives. Even they end up admitting that they had problems, some self-inflicted, before Batman became involved. Being villains, they try to follow up the verdict of innocence with an execution, regardless.



** Victor Fries' animated origin of losing his wife and being mutated in a FreakLabAccident is expanded in an adaptation comic that explains he had abusive parents that eventually disowned him and shipped him to boarding school for trying to preserve animals he cared about through freezing, and that Nora (said wife) was the only person who had ever loved him.

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** Victor Fries' [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries animated origin origin]] of losing his wife and being mutated in a FreakLabAccident is expanded in an adaptation comic that explains he had abusive parents that eventually disowned him and shipped him to boarding school for trying to preserve animals he cared about through freezing, and that Nora (said wife) was the only person who had ever loved him.



** The Joker is a special case in Batman's rogue gallery -- the thing about his MultipleChoicePast is that it's unknown who he was before falling into a vat of acid and whether he was nuts even before taking the dunk. It's an eternal RiddleForTheAges. He sometimes even [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believes his origins]], DependingOnTheWriter, of course. As such, Joker was literally a nobody… who turned into the DC Universe's scariest villain. Ultimately, Joker is the prime example of FromNobodyToNightmare. But still, most of his sob stories do imply something happened that drove him to villainy.
*** He did this most notably in the story "Mad Love" from ''ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures'' by encouraging the FlorenceNightingaleEffect in Harley Quinn. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].
*** Lampshaded in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' when Terry gets the better of the titular clown by, among other things, mercilessly mocking his past, although in this version it's just the chemical bath.
*** In ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', the Joker has his FreudianExcuse explained as an extended flashback, the thrust of the story being Joker trying to prove that all it takes is "one bad day" for even the sanest person to go off the deep end. He tries to drive Commissioner Gordon insane by shooting and brutalizing his daughter Barbara, then forcing Gordon to look at photographs of her naked, broken body. However, Gordon doesn't break and, when Batman rescues him, he tells Bats to bring Joker in by the book, to prove "our way works". In their confrontation, Joker explains that the story might be entirely false due to his own unreliable psyche, but Creator/{{DC|Comics}} seems to be treating it as {{canon}}, given a later story arc in which the Riddler says he witnessed the murder of "Jack's" wife and offers to tell Joker who did it in return for protection.
*** Why he went by the name the Red Hood has changed over the years: ''The Killing Joke'' claims he was a failed comedian driven to crime to support his pregnant wife. The trauma of his disfigurement from jumping in the acid and his wife's earlier accidental death drove him insane. However, even ''this'' backstory is questionable, as the Joker himself calls it "multiple choice".
*** In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', he is legitimately surprised when Atrocitus wonders what drove the clown to nihilism.
*** While he mocks about his backstory in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', the "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger" line he gives when unmasking himself to the bank manager and the cheek scars imply that something traumatic happened that drove him to insanity.
*** One issue of ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' has him talking about having AbusiveParents, only for a psychiatrist to tell him it's the ''seventh'' story he's told now.
*** In ''ComicBook/SupermanSpaceAge'', the Joker targets Bruce Wayne because he lost his daughter to the fires the company set when Maxwell Lord was CEO.



* An early [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] ComicBook/CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.
** Which would make this one rare example of Cap being a [[JerkAss hypocritical douche]], since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[{{Understatement}} thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse.
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stories... which would make this one rare example of Cap being a [[JerkAss hypocritical douche]], douche, since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[{{Understatement}} thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse.
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* Subverted in the Creator/BrianMichaelBendis run on the comic book ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}''. Daredevil has spent his life tormented by the monstrous Bullseye. When Daredevil discovers Bullseye had a horrible childhood, the hero feels no sympathy, and says he will never fear Bullseye again. A mass murderer is scary; a mass murderer who kills because he had a crappy childhood is merely pathetic.
** Possibly because of Daredevil's ''own'' BackStory. Maybe not everyone can spin "Blinded by toxic spill at age twelve and single father was coerced into not suing due to carelessly negligent waste handler's mob ties" into "hot-shot lawyer AND superhero", but ''still''...
** Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy childhood" is a lie. In some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid. And in all of them he [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered one or both of his parents.]]
* 616 ComicBook/DoctorDoom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]]....
** It later turned out that his machine was actually tampered with, but not by Reed Richard. Instead, it turned out Ben Grimm had purposefully tampered with Doom's machine.

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* Subverted in the Creator/BrianMichaelBendis Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' run on the comic book of ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}''. Daredevil has spent his life tormented by the monstrous Bullseye. When Daredevil discovers Bullseye had a horrible childhood, the hero feels no sympathy, and says he will never fear Bullseye again. A mass murderer is scary; a mass murderer who kills because he had a crappy childhood is merely pathetic.
** Possibly because of Daredevil's ''own'' BackStory. Maybe not everyone can spin "Blinded by toxic spill at age twelve and single father was coerced into not suing due to carelessly negligent waste handler's mob ties" into "hot-shot lawyer AND superhero", but ''still''...
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pathetic. Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy that the "Crappy childhood" is a lie. In lie; in some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid. And kid, and in all of them them, he [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered one or both of his parents.]]
* 616 ComicBook/DoctorDoom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]]....
** It later turned out that his machine was actually tampered with, but not by Reed Richard. Instead, it turned out Ben Grimm had purposefully tampered with Doom's machine.
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* In mainstream continuity, the Fantastic Four's old enemy the Mole Man claims he was ostracized and treated cruelly by his peers as a child and even as a young man because he was so ugly, eventually choosing to abandon humanity entirely because of it. However, this is impossible to verify; seeing as all accounts of his youth have been related by him (with no proper names ever given of his tormentors), they are likely subject to his biased version of the facts.
* Played for laughs: In the one-shot special ''The Fantastic Four Roast'' (February, 1982), Dr. Doom explains the cause of the accident that turned him evil: he wasn't invited to go on a panty raid with Reed and his college buddies.
-->'''Dr. Doom:''' If I had been invited to go on that panty raid, the Dr. Doom you see before you would not exist! I could have been a fun guy!!

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Mole Man claims that he was ostracized and treated cruelly by his peers as a child and even as a young man because he was so ugly, eventually choosing to abandon humanity entirely because of it. However, this is impossible to verify; seeing as all accounts of his youth have been related by him (with no proper names ever given of his tormentors), they are likely subject to his biased version of the facts.
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** Doctor Doom has traces of this. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death, or they were saved just in time... only for his father to die of an illness. Then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault because of that Richards]]...
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Played for laughs: In laughs in the one-shot special ''The Fantastic Four Roast'' (February, 1982), 1982). Dr. Doom explains the cause of the accident that turned him evil: he wasn't invited to go on a panty raid with Reed and his college buddies.
-->'''Dr.--->'''Dr. Doom:''' If I had been invited to go on that panty raid, the Dr. Doom you see before you would not exist! I could have been a fun guy!!



** The first Trickster came from a family of aerialists and his father mocked him for his fear of heights--never mind that this fear came about partly because Dad was constantly DistractedByTheSexy and often came close to dropping his son from a height during their trapeze routines.
** Magenta developed her [[MagnetismManipulation magnetism powers]] at a very young age, but the emergence of her power caused her father and brother's deaths in a car accident. Her mother believed she was demon-possessed and abused her constantly out of resentment, never forgiving her for the aforementioned deaths [[spoiler:even after it was revealed that it was Dr. Polaris' interference that caused the girl's powers to emerge in the first place]]. Consequently, Magenta would grow up with a seriously-creepy SplitPersonality.
** The second Zoom/Reverse-Flash, ''[[Characters/TheFlashHunterZolomon Hunter Zolomon]]'', had a father who was a SerialKiller and who would eventually kill his mother when she finally got brave enough to call the cops, then the dad got gunned down by the cops--both deaths happening the same day Hunter was to leave for college. While this incident wasn't what led him to later become a super-villain, it did set the foundation for his belief that [[KnightTemplar tragedy makes better heroes]], which in turn led to him wanting to "improve" Wally West, who he felt didn't appreciate that a hero should be willing to do whatever it takes to prevent tragedy from repeating.
** The first Reverse-Flash, [[Characters/TheFlashEobardThawne Eobard Thawne]], was born in the 25th century to emotionally abusive parents who treated him as an obligation. He grew up to be obsessed with Barry Allen, the second Flash, seeing him as a source of the kindness and love that was lacking in his own life. In his adulthood, Thawne became a scientist who studied the Speed Force, and eventually managed to endow himself with super-speed. With no crimes to solve in his time, he begins causing accidents so that he can come to the "rescue" and look like a hero. When Barry Allen arrives in the 25th century, he puts a stop to Thawne and turns him in to the police for the "accidents". Thawne repents and tries to better himself, but feels betrayed when he realizes that Barry Allen has taken Wally West as a sidekick and not him. This causes Thawne to descend into villainy.

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** The first Trickster came from a family of aerialists aerialists, and his father mocked him for his fear of heights--never heights -- never mind that this fear came about partly because Dad was constantly DistractedByTheSexy and often came close to dropping his son from a height during their trapeze routines.
** Magenta developed her [[MagnetismManipulation magnetism powers]] at a very young age, but the emergence of her power caused her father and brother's deaths in a car accident. Her mother believed she was demon-possessed and abused her constantly out of resentment, never forgiving her for the aforementioned deaths [[spoiler:even after it was revealed that it was Dr. Polaris' interference that caused the girl's powers to emerge in the first place]]. Consequently, Magenta would grow up with a seriously-creepy seriously creepy SplitPersonality.
** The second Zoom/Reverse-Flash, ''[[Characters/TheFlashHunterZolomon Hunter Zolomon]]'', had a father who was a SerialKiller and who would eventually kill his mother when she finally got brave enough to call the cops, then the dad got gunned down by the cops--both deaths happening the same day Hunter was to leave for college. While this incident wasn't what led him to later become a super-villain, it did set the foundation for his belief that [[KnightTemplar tragedy makes better heroes]], which in turn led to him wanting to "improve" Wally West, who he felt didn't appreciate that a hero should be willing to do whatever it takes to prevent tragedy from repeating.
** The first Reverse-Flash, [[Characters/TheFlashEobardThawne Eobard Thawne]], Thawne, was born in the 25th century to emotionally abusive parents who treated him as an obligation. He grew up to be obsessed with Barry Allen, the second Flash, seeing him as a source of the kindness and love that was lacking in his own life. In his adulthood, Thawne became a scientist who studied the Speed Force, and eventually managed to endow himself with super-speed. With no crimes to solve in his time, he begins causing accidents so that he can come to the "rescue" and look like a hero. When Barry Allen arrives in the 25th century, he puts a stop to Thawne and turns him in to the police for the "accidents". Thawne repents and tries to better himself, but feels betrayed when he realizes that Barry Allen has taken Wally West as a sidekick and not him. This causes Thawne to descend into villainy.villainy.
** The second Zoom/Reverse-Flash, Hunter Zolomon, had a father who was a SerialKiller and who would eventually kill his mother when she finally got brave enough to call the cops, then the dad got gunned down by the cops -- both deaths happening the same day Hunter was to leave for college. While this incident wasn't what led him to later become a super-villain, it did set the foundation for his belief that [[MiseryBuildsCharacter tragedy makes better heroes]], which in turn led to him [[KnightTemplar wanting to "improve" Wally West]], who he felt didn't appreciate that a hero should be willing to do whatever it takes to prevent tragedy from repeating.



* Dex-Starr is a homicidal ''kitty cat'' in the ComicBook/GreenLantern books (he's also a Red Lantern, which helps a lot with the "homicidal" part ... helps him actually ''be'' homicidal, that is). One story shows how he got that way, and it's pretty heartbreaking. He used to be an ordinary house pet until one night his owner was murdered right in front of him. The next morning, the police kicked him out of the crime scene, and as if that wasn't bad enough, a pair of teenagers captured him, put him in a burlap sack, and threw him off a bridge. At that moment, Dex-Starr was so filled with rage from the loss and mistreatment he'd suffered that he was chosen to be a Red Lantern.

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* Dex-Starr is a homicidal ''kitty cat'' in the ComicBook/GreenLantern ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'' books (he's also a Red Lantern, which helps a lot with the "homicidal" part ...part... helps him actually ''be'' homicidal, that is). One story shows how he got that way, and it's pretty heartbreaking. He used to be an ordinary house pet until one night his owner was murdered right in front of him. The next morning, the police kicked him out of the crime scene, and as if that wasn't bad enough, a pair of teenagers captured him, put him in a burlap sack, and threw him off a bridge. At that moment, Dex-Starr was so filled with rage from the loss and mistreatment he'd suffered that he was chosen to be a Red Lantern.



* In an issue of Marvel's ''Hanna-Barbera TV Stars,'' [[WesternAnimation/CBBears Undercover Elephant]] went after a criminal who was also a psychiatrist, Pretty Boy Freud. The shrink tricks U.E. into getting treatment, and U.E. tells how his mother used to spank him with a tennis racket ("The kids all used to call me ''ol' waffle britches''!")

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* In an issue of Marvel's Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}'s ''Hanna-Barbera TV Stars,'' [[WesternAnimation/CBBears Undercover Elephant]] went after a criminal who was also a psychiatrist, Pretty Boy Freud. The shrink tricks U.E. into getting treatment, and U.E. tells how his mother used to spank him with a tennis racket ("The kids all used to call me ''ol' waffle britches''!")



* ComicBook/TheJoker is a special case in Batman's rogue gallery -- the thing about his MultipleChoicePast is that it's unknown who he was before falling into a vat of acid and whether he was nuts even before taking the dunk. It's an eternal RiddleForTheAges. He sometimes even [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believes his origins]], DependingOnTheWriter of course. As such, Joker was literally a nobody… who turned into the DC Universe's scariest villain. Ultimately, Joker is the prime example of FromNobodyToNightmare. But still, most of his sob stories do imply something happened that drove him to villainy.
** He did this most notably in ''Mad Love'' by encouraging the FlorenceNightingaleEffect in Harley Quinn. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].
** Lampshaded in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'', where Terry gets the better of the titular clown by, among other things, mercilessly mocking his past, although in this version it's just the chemical bath.
** Creator/AlanMoore's ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', during which the Joker has his FreudianExcuse explained as an extended flashback. Joker explains that the story might be entirely false due to his own unreliable psyche, but DC seems to be treating it as {{canon}}, given a later story arc where Riddler says he witnessed the murder of "Jack's" wife and offers to tell Joker who did it in return for protection.
*** The whole point of ''The Killing Joke'' is Joker trying to prove that all it takes is "one bad day" for even the sanest person to go off the deep end. He tries to drive Commissioner Gordon insane by shooting and brutalizing his daughter Barbara, then forcing Gordon to look at photographs of her naked, broken body. However, Gordon doesn't break and, when Batman rescues him, he tells Bats to bring Joker in by the book, to prove "our way works".
*** Why he went by the name the Red Hood has changed over the years: ''The Killing Joke'' claims he was a failed comedian driven to crime to support his pregnant wife. The trauma of his disfigurement from jumping in the acid and his wife's earlier accidental death drove him insane. However, even ''this'' backstory is questionable, as the Joker himself calls it "multiple choice".
** In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', he is legitimately surprised when Atrocitus wondered what drove the clown to nihilism.
** While he mocks about his backstory in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', the "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger" line he gives when unmasking himself to the bank manager and the cheek scars imply that something traumatic happened that drove him to insanity.
** One issue of ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' had him talking about having AbusiveParents, only for a psychiatrist to tell him it's the ''seventh'' story he's told now.
** In ''ComicBook/SupermanSpaceAge'', The Joker targets Bruce Wayne because he lost his daughter to the fires the company set when Maxwell Lord was CEO.
* It's not entirely unreasonable to see [[TheJuggernaut Doomsday]] as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds when one remembers that he's carrying the genetic memory of untold thousands of times he was brutally killed by the various predators, parasites, aggressive herbivores, {{Man Eating Plant}}s and other horrors of the DeathWorld that was prehistoric Krypton. The trauma of which has driven him insane with fear to the point he lashes out blindly at all other living things because he thinks the only way he can be safe is if everything else is ''dead''.



* In ''ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', both of the {{big bad}}s (Chantique and Haazen) have the excuses; Haazen's is that he failed to make the grade as a Jedi, and was treated indifferently by a well-meaning but somewhat classist employer, while Chantique was sold into slavery by her own father, sold when she failed to be ruthless enough to survive, and was raped by her owners. In Haazen's case it's subverted, since a large part of it was his failure to grow and learn from experience. Chantique's excuse is why she has a VillainousBreakdown when Zayne returns to save Jarael.



* The second story in the tenth and final issue of the ''ComicBook/{{Madballs}}'' comic book published by Star Comics (a defunct subsidiary of Creator/MarvelComics) had the Madballs battle a villain named Grammar Moses. After she is beaten, she explains to the Madballs that she became a villain because she wanted to be an English teacher, but no one would hire her. The Madballs take pity on her crushed dreams and allow her to be their own private tutor.
* From ''Comicbook/TheMightyThor'':
** Marvel's Comicbook/{{Loki}} would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being weak and small. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being one the only people who actually love him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
-->'''Verity''': What makes hate easy?
-->'''Valeria''': Mommy and daddy.
-->'''Loki''': Harsh! But yes.

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* The second story in the tenth and final issue of the ''ComicBook/{{Madballs}}'' comic book published by Star Comics (a defunct subsidiary of Creator/MarvelComics) had has the Madballs battle a villain named Grammar Moses. After she is beaten, she explains to the Madballs that she became a villain because she wanted to be an English teacher, but no one would hire her. The Madballs take pity on her crushed dreams and allow her to be their own private tutor.
* From ''Comicbook/TheMightyThor'':
** Marvel's Comicbook/{{Loki}} would Loki probably count.counts. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being weak and small. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being one the only people who actually love him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
-->'''Verity''': --->'''Verity:''' What makes hate easy?
-->'''Valeria''':
easy?\\
'''Valeria:'''
Mommy and daddy.
-->'''Loki''':
daddy.\\
'''Loki:'''
Harsh! But yes.



* In the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'s foe Saiko (which appropriately enough sounds a lot like "psycho") [[spoiler:is really his former friend and fellow former circus boy Raymond. The circus was a front for the Court of Owls who would repeatedly take children from the circus and put them through TrainingFromHell to make them into new Talons. The Owls kidnapped Raymond and put him through that training before deciding he was a failure and left him to die in the woods with his [[EyeScream eyes pecked out by birds]].]] His entire murderous grudge against Dick is that [[spoiler:it should have been Dick instead of Raymond. The Owls originally wanted to make Dick into a Talon, but they had to "settle" for Raymond after the Flying Graysons died and Bruce Wayne adopted Dick in the wake of the tragedy.]] Saiko then engages Dick in a fight during a reunion show at Haly's Circus while threatening the lives of everyone present with a bunch of bombs. Dick rightfully calls Saiko out on his bs, stating that his suffering is no excuse for endangering so many innocent lives.
* Barracuda from ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'' series. Though an AffablyEvil character to the point of almost being likable, he turns on allies in an instant, given sufficient reason to do so, and tries to get revenge on Castle by [[spoiler: kidnapping his infant illegitimate daughter and planning to torture her to death in front of him]]. However, during a scene in which the tortured Barracuda snaps completely and utterly, a dialogue in his head reveals that his father had been abusive to the point of torturing his young son. When he goes off the deep end, Barracuda screams "Never found him! Never fuckin' found him! Hadda take that shit out onna muthafuckin' world!"
** Nicky Cavella was [[spoiler:manipulated and sexually abused by his aunt. She also made him kill his parents, although the SlasherSmile on his face heavily implies that he wasn't quite normal to begin with]]. When he's grown up [[spoiler:and finally suffocated his aunt with a pillow]], he gleefully pisses on the remains of Frank Castle's family and murders the youngest son of one of his opponents before cooking and serving him to said opponent.
** One KingOfTheHomeless, while not abused, did ''not'' have a normal childhood. His mother was beyond morbidly obese and he was bullied for it, and while hugging him one day she fell over and couldn't get up. He had to ''eat his way out of her corpse'', which explains why in adulthood he only finds confort when swimming [[Franchise/DuckTales Scrooge McDuck]]-style through the corpses brought to him by his mooks.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'': In the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'s ComicBook/New52, Nightwing's foe Saiko (which appropriately enough sounds a lot like "psycho") [[spoiler:is really his former friend and fellow former circus boy Raymond. The circus was a front for the Court of Owls who would repeatedly take children from the circus and put them through TrainingFromHell to make them into new Talons. The Owls kidnapped Raymond and put him through that training before deciding he was a failure and left him to die in the woods with his [[EyeScream eyes pecked out by birds]].]] His entire murderous grudge against Dick is that [[spoiler:it should have been Dick instead of Raymond. The Owls originally wanted to make Dick into a Talon, but they had to "settle" for Raymond after the Flying Graysons died and Bruce Wayne adopted Dick in the wake of the tragedy.]] Saiko then engages Dick in a fight during a reunion show at Haly's Circus while threatening the lives of everyone present with a bunch of bombs. Dick rightfully calls Saiko out on his bs, stating that his suffering is no excuse for endangering so many innocent lives.
* Barracuda from ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'' series. Though an AffablyEvil character to the point of almost being likable, he turns on allies in an instant, given sufficient reason to do so, and tries to get revenge on Castle by [[spoiler: kidnapping his infant illegitimate daughter and planning to torture her to death in front of him]]. However, during a scene in which the tortured Barracuda snaps completely and utterly, a dialogue in his head reveals that his father had been abusive to the point of torturing his young son. When he goes off the deep end, Barracuda screams "Never found him! Never fuckin' found him! Hadda take that shit out onna muthafuckin' world!"
** Nicky Cavella was [[spoiler:manipulated and sexually abused by his aunt. She also made him kill his parents, although the SlasherSmile on his face heavily implies that he wasn't quite normal to begin with]]. When he's grown up [[spoiler:and finally suffocated his aunt with a pillow]], he gleefully pisses on the remains of Frank Castle's family and murders the youngest son of one of his opponents before cooking and serving him to said opponent.
''ComicBook/ThePunisher'':
** One KingOfTheHomeless, while not abused, did ''not'' have a normal childhood. His mother was beyond morbidly obese and he was bullied for it, and while hugging him one day she fell over and couldn't get up. He had to ''eat his way out of her corpse'', which explains why in adulthood he only finds confort comfort when swimming [[Franchise/DuckTales Scrooge McDuck]]-style through the corpses brought to him by his mooks.



** The Tiny Ugly World arc has a [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Ned Flanders-looking]] creep whose mother had severe issues, slept with her son, and cut off his penis (he keeps it in a jar) and killed herself. He's even worse.
** Even Jake Gallows, [[Comicbook/ThePunisher2099 the Punisher in 2099]], runs afoul of guys with backgrounds like this. Kron Stone claims his family never loved him, leaving a robot to care for him but never bothering to program it, causing it to default to veterinarian mode. "Do you know what it's like to be fitted with a collar, live in a kennel, and be fed on dog meat?!" "No, but I know what it's like to have your family butchered by a crazy with a sob story."
* Junior from ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' has this turned all the way up to eleven. Her father was the original Golden Age Ragdoll, a psychopathic mass murderer and cult leader in the Charles Manson style. He beat his son because he wasn't triple jointed like he was and when it came to Junior (Real name Alex) he would repeatedly rape her, from a very young age. It doesn't excuse the horrific crimes she later commits (Junior is a sadist, rapist, mass murderer, and torturer whose crimes are so horrifying there are people in Arkham who are scared of her), but her father's character explains some of it.

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* ''ComicBook/ThePunisher2099'': Kron Stone claims that his family never loved him, leaving a robot to care for him but never bothering to program it, causing it to default to veterinarian mode. "Do you know what it's like to be fitted with a collar, live in a kennel, and be fed on dog meat?!" "No," counters Jake Gallows/the Punisher, "but I know what it's like to have your family butchered by a crazy with a sob story."
* ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX'':
** Though an AffablyEvil character to the point of almost being likable, Barracuda turns on allies in an instant, given sufficient reason to do so, and tries to get revenge on Castle by [[spoiler:kidnapping his infant illegitimate daughter and planning to torture her to death in front of him]]. However, during a scene in which the tortured Barracuda snaps completely and utterly, a dialogue in his head reveals that his father had been abusive to the point of torturing his young son. When he goes off the deep end, Barracuda screams "Never found him! Never fuckin' found him! Hadda take that shit out onna muthafuckin' world!"
** Nicky Cavella was [[spoiler:manipulated and sexually abused by his aunt. She also made him kill his parents, although the SlasherSmile on his face heavily implies that he wasn't quite normal to begin with]]. When he's grown up [[spoiler:and finally suffocated his aunt with a pillow]], he gleefully pisses on the remains of Frank Castle's family and murders the youngest son of one of his opponents before cooking and serving him to said opponent.
** The Tiny Ugly World arc one-shot has a [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Ned Flanders-looking]] creep whose mother had severe issues, slept with her son, and cut off his penis (he keeps it in a jar) and killed herself. He's even worse.
** Even Jake Gallows, [[Comicbook/ThePunisher2099 the Punisher in 2099]], runs afoul of guys with backgrounds like this. Kron Stone claims his family never loved him, leaving a robot to care for him but never bothering to program it, causing it to default to veterinarian mode. "Do you know what it's like to be fitted with a collar, live in a kennel, and be fed on dog meat?!" "No, but I know what it's like to have your family butchered by a crazy with a sob story."
* Junior from ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' has this turned all the way up to eleven. Her ''ComicBook/SecretSix'': Junior's father was the original [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Age]] Ragdoll, a psychopathic mass murderer and cult leader in the Charles Manson style. He beat his son because he wasn't triple jointed like he was and when it came to Junior (Real (real name Alex) he would repeatedly rape her, from a very young age. It doesn't excuse age, which explains some of the horrific crimes she later commits (Junior is a sadist, rapist, mass murderer, and torturer whose crimes are so horrifying there are people in Arkham who are scared of her), but her father's character explains some of it.her).



** ComicBook/DoctorOctopus: Bullied as a child, with an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness that created the accident that made him a villain.
*** It's also established in ''Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat the shit out of him. It's one of the reasons Ock WouldntHurtAChild.

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** ComicBook/DoctorOctopus: Dr. Octopus: Bullied as a child, with an overprotective mother who forbade him from pursuing a relationship with the woman he loved, but selfishly tried to pursue one of her own, then died of a heart attack when he confronted her about it. In many ways, his guilt from this caused his carelessness that created the accident that made him a villain.
***
villain. It's also established in ''Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat the shit out of him. It's him, which is one of the reasons why Ock WouldntHurtAChild.



** Tombstone was an albino born to black parents in Harlem, making him a black kid in a white kid's body; as one might expect, his childhood wasn't very pleasant, abused by both his family and his peers. To cope, he [[TheBully bullied the other students in school]], and only got worse as an adult, becoming a hitman by trade.
** [[ComicBook/GreenGoblin The Green Goblin]]: While some say Norman had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.
** Flash Thompson wasn't truly a villain, but this was the reason he was such a jerk in high school. His dad was an angry alcoholic who abused both him ''and'' his mom. Indeed, a story arc in the 90's involved Flash succumbing to alcoholism himself.
** This was actually addressed in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', where ComicBook/NickFury reveals that the reason he had given Spidey such a hard time was because he has assumed, due to the tragedy in his life, Peter was almost certain to become a villain.
** As a child, J. Jonah Jameson's father (later retconned to be his stepfather) was a celebrated war hero -- but in private, he would routinely abuse a young Jonah and his mother. Because of this, JJJ was left soured on the very concept of heroes and frequently tears down Spider-Man (and sometimes other superheroes) in the belief that they ''must'' be hiding some darker nature.
* In ''Franchise/{{Star Wars|Expanded Universe}}: ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', both of the {{big bad}}s (Chantique and Haazen) have the excuses; Haazen's is that he failed to make the grade as a Jedi, and was treated indifferently by a well-meaning but somewhat classist employer, while Chantique was sold into slavery by her own father, sold when she failed to be ruthless enough to survive, and was raped by her owners. In Haazen's case it's subverted, since a large part of it was his failure to grow and learn from experience. Chantique's excuse is why she has a VillainousBreakdown when Zayne returns to save Jarael.
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** ''ComicBook/SupermanBirthright'' gave Lex Luthor a small excuse. His father was emotionally distant and he felt alienated from everyone because of his money and intellect. However, he was also a raging sociopath with a superiority complex that dwarfed the heavens and many people point out that Luthor made his own choices.
** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[DelicateAndSickly dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].

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** Tombstone was [[AlbinosAreFreaks an albino albino]] born to black parents in Harlem, making him a black kid in a white kid's body; as one might expect, his childhood wasn't very pleasant, abused by both his family and his peers. To cope, he [[TheBully bullied the other students in school]], and only got worse as an adult, becoming a hitman by trade.
** [[ComicBook/GreenGoblin The Green Goblin]]: Goblin: While some say Norman had very little of an excuse, he didn't become evil on his own. His father was an abusive alcoholic, which made Norman resolve to become a breadwinner for his family. Then things got worse. His wife died shortly after Harry was born, driving him to work harder and neglect his son. Eventually, he framed his business partner Mendel Stromm for embezzlement, used Stromm's research equipment to develop a new line of chemicals, and it all led to the Goblin Formula, and the birth of a nightmare.
** Flash Thompson wasn't truly a villain, but this was the reason he was [[JerkJock such a jerk in high school.school]]. His dad was an angry alcoholic who abused both him ''and'' his mom. Indeed, a story arc in the 90's involved 1990s involves Flash succumbing to alcoholism himself.
** This was actually addressed in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', where ComicBook/NickFury reveals that the reason he had given Spidey such a hard time was because he has assumed, due to the tragedy in his life, Peter was almost certain to become a villain.
** As a child, J. Jonah Jameson's father (later retconned {{retcon}}ned to be his stepfather) was a celebrated war hero -- but in private, he would routinely abuse a young Jonah and his mother. Because of this, JJJ was left soured on the very concept of heroes and frequently tears down Spider-Man (and sometimes other superheroes) in the belief that they ''must'' be hiding some darker nature.
* ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'':
**
In ''Franchise/{{Star Wars|Expanded Universe}}: ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', both of the {{big bad}}s (Chantique and Haazen) have the excuses; Haazen's is ''ComicBook/TheStrangeRevengeOfLenaLuthor'', Mind-Bomber claims that he failed his desire to make the grade as a Jedi, and was destroy his family's lives stems from being treated indifferently by a well-meaning but somewhat classist employer, while Chantique was sold into slavery by her own father, sold with contempt and mockery when she failed to be ruthless enough to survive, and was raped by her owners. In Haazen's case it's subverted, since a large part of it was his failure to grow and learn from experience. Chantique's excuse is why she has a VillainousBreakdown when Zayne returns to save Jarael.
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** ''ComicBook/SupermanBirthright'' gave Lex Luthor a small excuse. His father was emotionally distant and he felt alienated from everyone because of his money and intellect. However,
he was also younger.
** ''ComicBook/SupermanDoomsdayHunterPrey'': It's not entirely unreasonable to see [[TheJuggernaut Doomsday]] as
a raging sociopath WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds when one remembers that he's carrying the genetic memory of untold thousands of times he was brutally killed by the various predators, parasites, aggressive herbivores, {{Man Eating Plant}}s and other horrors of the DeathWorld that was prehistoric Krypton. The trauma of which has driven him insane with a superiority complex that dwarfed fear to the heavens and many people point he lashes out that Luthor made his own choices.
** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[DelicateAndSickly dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing
blindly at all other living things because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in thinks the only way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to he can be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].safe is if everything else is ''dead''.



** ''ComicBook/SupermanBirthright'' gave Lex Luthor a small excuse. His father was emotionally distant, and he felt alienated from everyone because of his money and intellect. However, he was also a raging sociopath with a superiority complex that dwarfed the heavens, and many people point out that Luthor made his own choices.
** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[DelicateAndSickly dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].



--->'''Lana Lang''': You've got to understand, Kara, Cat's been to '''Hell''' and back with Toyman. You didn't know Cat before her son was killed. She was a '''different''' woman back then. Heck, we all were. [...] Her son Adam was killed rescuing a group of children who were kidnapped by one of Toyman's malfunctioning robots. The robot cut his throat. Cat '''changed''' after that. She didn't '''grieve'''. Instead, she turned '''hard'''. She moved to L.A. and started writing for '''tabloids''', tearing down anyone she could. The more teen stars and starlets she saw parading around town, the angrier and angrier her writing became. [...] Clark thinks Cat became angry that those teens were still alive to make messes of their lives... and her son '''wasn't'''.
** In ''ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth'' story ''The Girl of No Tomorrow'', Supergirl confronts the [[ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes Emerald Empress]], a woman who was sold into slavery by her own family and was abused and mistreated by the powerful and rich until she bumped into the Emerald Eye of Ekron. Now she uses her Eye's power to pillage and loot and questions why Supergirl never helped her when she craved for justice, instead opposing her when she seeks revenge.

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--->'''Lana Lang''': Lang:''' You've got to understand, Kara, Cat's been to '''Hell''' and back with Toyman. You didn't know Cat before her son was killed. She was a '''different''' woman back then. Heck, we all were. [...] Her son Adam was killed rescuing a group of children who were kidnapped by one of Toyman's malfunctioning robots. The robot cut his throat. Cat '''changed''' after that. She didn't '''grieve'''. Instead, she turned '''hard'''. She moved to L.A. and started writing for '''tabloids''', tearing down anyone she could. The more teen stars and starlets she saw parading around town, the angrier and angrier her writing became. [...] Clark thinks Cat became angry that those teens were still alive to make messes of their lives... and her son '''wasn't'''.
** In the ''ComicBook/SupergirlRebirth'' story ''The Girl of No Tomorrow'', Supergirl confronts the [[ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes Emerald Empress]], a woman who was sold into slavery by her own family and was abused and mistreated by the powerful and rich until she bumped into the Emerald Eye of Ekron. Now she uses her Eye's power to pillage and loot and questions why Supergirl never helped her when she craved for justice, instead opposing her when she seeks revenge.



** In ''ComicBook/TheStrangeRevengeOfLenaLuthor'', Mind-Bomber claims his desire to destroy his family's lives stems from being treated with contempt and mockery when he was younger.
* The ''Terror Titans'' miniseries by DC is based around this trope. Every issue features one member's backstory, usually involving a terrible childhood.
* In the [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.

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** In ''ComicBook/TheStrangeRevengeOfLenaLuthor'', Mind-Bomber claims his desire to destroy his family's lives stems from being treated with contempt and mockery when he was younger.
* The ''Terror Titans'' ''[[ComicBook/TeenTitans Terror Titans]]'' miniseries by DC is based around this trope. Every issue features one member's backstory, usually involving a terrible childhood.
* In the [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'', Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.



** In Issue #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday."
** The Maker a.k.a [[spoiler:Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to nor would anyone let him change it for the better.

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** In Issue #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday birthday, he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday."
** The Maker a.k.a a. [[spoiler:Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to to, nor would anyone let him change it for the better.better.
* In ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', Nick Fury reveals that the reason he had given Spidey such a hard time was because he has assumed, due to the tragedy in his life, Peter was almost certain to become a villain.



** Rorschach states his reason for becoming a crime-fighter in a deconstruction of the superhero origin story. The therapist he speaks with sees it as nothing more than a shallow excuse for his violent life.
** Ozymandias had an (unspoken) excuse of his own in the movie, or at least from the POV of the actor who played him. Matthew Goode decided to portray Veidt as being shamed by being the son of a Nazi, and that his WellIntentionedExtremist views arose out of a desire to shed his family guilt and save the world.
* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'':

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** Rorschach states his reason for becoming a crime-fighter in a deconstruction of the superhero origin story. The therapist he speaks with sees it as nothing more than a shallow excuse for his violent life.
** Ozymandias had an (unspoken) excuse of his own in the movie, or at least from the POV of the actor who played him. Matthew Goode decided to portray Veidt as being shamed by being the son of a Nazi, and that his WellIntentionedExtremist views arose out of a desire to shed his family guilt and save the world.
* ''Franchise/WonderWoman'':''ComicBook/WonderWoman'':



* Diana is a proud, selfish brat for most of ''ComicBook/WonderWomanTheTrueAmazon'', but as Hippolyta notes, she and the others indulged her whims and excused her awful behavior instead of correcting it.
* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/XMen'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.
** And then, once he and his soon-to-be wife Magda settled in Ukraine, a mob burnt down the inn where they were staying, and he was unable to do anything while his daughter burned to death. And ''then,'' when he lost control of the powers he didn't know he had and killed the mob, Magda ran from him, calling him a monster. Later, when he was hunting [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] for a living, the people he worked for (heavily implied to be the CIA) killed a female friend of his because he went after the "wrong" Nazis. Oh, and his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity powers make him]] [[StealthPun bipolar]]. The man has so many issues it's a wonder he's still able to function.
** On the two occasions when Magneto decided to try the more ethical path of establishing a separate nation as a sanctuary for mutants and otherwise leaving flatscans entirely alone, both times his attempted 'Mutant Israel' was almost immediately nuked off the map. With literal nukes. We might not ''agree'' with Magneto's subsequent urges to burn the world, but we can definitely understand why he's having them.
* Another X-Men villain, the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain mutant-hating]] Graydon Creed, was a victim of ParentalAbandonment, and his parents were both mutants (Mystique and Sabretooth) even though he is not. When he discovered this, he grew to resent mutants as a result, to the point of founding hate groups like the Friends of Humanity and the Upstarts.
** His father ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' has it as well with AbusiveParents. Victor's father kept him chained up in the cellar and would come down to rip out his teeth & claws with pliers. They grew back due to his HealingFactor, so his father would just repeatedly rip them back out again. He was subjected to this abuse and treated like an animal for years before escaping & killing his father.
*** Recently, another story in Deadpool 2016 includes how his father verbally abused him while making young Victor beg for his food like a dog and call himself a monster. Sabretooth even openly lampshades this before the flashback -- saying that all the lives he ruined are on him, but his father showed him the ropes.
** A more recent X-Men villain, anti-mutant lobbyist Lydia Nance, came to despise all mutants because her father, a mutant, physically abused her.
* {{Defied|Trope}} in ''ComicBook/XMen Noir''; [[spoiler:Comicbook/JeanGrey]]'s MotiveRant includes lamenting that Professor Xavier never truly accepted that she was ''always'' extremely immoral and manipulative. "Nobody touched me, nobody corrupted me. ''This is me.''"

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* ** Diana is a proud, selfish brat for most of ''ComicBook/WonderWomanTheTrueAmazon'', but as Hippolyta notes, she and the others indulged her whims and excused her awful behavior instead of correcting it.
* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/XMen'': ''ComicBook/XMen'':
** Magneto:
his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism the oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.
** And then,
possible. Then, once he and his soon-to-be wife Magda settled in Ukraine, a mob burnt down the inn where they were staying, and he was unable to do anything while his daughter burned to death. And ''then,'' when he lost control of the powers he didn't know he had and killed the mob, Magda ran from him, calling him a monster. Later, when he was [[NaziHunter hunting [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] for a living, the people he worked for (heavily implied to be the CIA) killed a female friend of his because he went after the "wrong" Nazis. Oh, and his [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity powers make him]] him]]... er, [[StealthPun bipolar]]. The man has so many issues it's a wonder he's still able to function.
**
function. On the two occasions when Magneto decided to try the more ethical path of establishing a separate nation as a sanctuary for mutants and otherwise leaving flatscans entirely alone, both times his attempted 'Mutant Israel' was almost immediately nuked off the map. With literal nukes. We might not ''agree'' with Magneto's subsequent urges to burn the world, but we can definitely understand why he's having them.
* ** Another X-Men villain, the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain mutant-hating]] Graydon Creed, was a victim of ParentalAbandonment, and his parents were both mutants (Mystique and Sabretooth) even though he is not. When he discovered this, he grew to resent mutants as a result, to the point of founding hate groups like the Friends of Humanity and the Upstarts.
** His Graydon's father ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' Sabretooth has it as well with AbusiveParents. Victor's father kept him chained up in the cellar and would come down to rip out his teeth & and claws with pliers. They grew back due to his HealingFactor, so his father would just repeatedly rip them back out again. He was subjected to this abuse and treated like an animal for years before escaping & and killing his father.
*** Recently, another
father. Another story in Deadpool 2016 includes ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' volume 4 details how his father verbally abused him while making young Victor beg for his food like a dog and call himself a monster. Before the flashback, Sabretooth even openly lampshades this before the flashback -- saying says that all the lives he ruined are on him, but his father showed him the ropes.
** A more recent X-Men villain, anti-mutant Anti-mutant lobbyist Lydia Nance, Nance came to [[FantasticRacism despise all mutants mutants]] because her father, a mutant, physically abused her.
* {{Defied|Trope}} in ''ComicBook/XMen Noir''; [[spoiler:Comicbook/JeanGrey]]'s MotiveRant includes lamenting that Professor Xavier never truly accepted that she was ''always'' extremely immoral and manipulative. "Nobody touched me, nobody corrupted me. ''This is me.''"
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* ''ComicBook/BloodSyndicate'': The spinoff miniseries ''My Name is Holocaust'' shows that the titular character, who in the present is a violent and ruthless criminal, was picked on a lot and suffered from having a father who constantly beat him and verbally abused him.
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** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[SicklyAndDelicate dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].

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** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[SicklyAndDelicate [[DelicateAndSickly dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].
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** He did this most notably in ''Mad Love'' by inducing FlorenceNightingaleSyndrome in Harley Quinn's mind. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].

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** He did this most notably in ''Mad Love'' by inducing FlorenceNightingaleSyndrome encouraging the FlorenceNightingaleEffect in Harley Quinn's mind.Quinn. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].
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** He did this most notably in ''Mad Love'' by inducing StockholmSyndrome in Harley Quinn's mind. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].

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** He did this most notably in ''Mad Love'' by inducing StockholmSyndrome FlorenceNightingaleSyndrome in Harley Quinn's mind. [[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove It was later adapted into an episode in the animated series]].

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* ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' has a pile of unhappy backstories subverted (and not) to varying degrees, including --

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** In ''ComicBook/SupermanSpaceAge'', The Joker targets Bruce Wayne because he lost his daughter to the fires the company set when Maxwell Lord was CEO.
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** This is turned on its head in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', in which the corrupt psychiatrist, when his "clients" cease to be useful to him, uses a neurotoxin to render them ''legitimately'' insane.

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** This is turned on its head in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', in which the corrupt psychiatrist, when his "clients" cease to be useful to him, uses a neurotoxin to render them ''legitimately'' insane. (According to Cillian Murphy, Scarecrow's comic backstory- or at least the bullying part- is canon to the films.)
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** Magenta developed her ExtraOreDinary powers at a very young age, but the emergence of her power caused her father and brother's deaths in a car accident. Her mother believed she was demon-possessed and abused her constantly out of resentment, never forgiving her for the aforementioned deaths [[spoiler:even after it was revealed that it was Dr. Polaris' interference that caused the girl's powers to emerge in the first place]]. Consequently, Magenta would grow up with a seriously-creepy SplitPersonality.

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** Magenta developed her ExtraOreDinary powers [[MagnetismManipulation magnetism powers]] at a very young age, but the emergence of her power caused her father and brother's deaths in a car accident. Her mother believed she was demon-possessed and abused her constantly out of resentment, never forgiving her for the aforementioned deaths [[spoiler:even after it was revealed that it was Dr. Polaris' interference that caused the girl's powers to emerge in the first place]]. Consequently, Magenta would grow up with a seriously-creepy SplitPersonality.
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** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[IllGirl dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].

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** In the ''ComicBook/New52'', it's established that as a teenager, Lex had the chance to develop a cure that could have saved his [[IllGirl [[SicklyAndDelicate dying sister Lena]]. Instead, he sat by and did nothing because he was afraid of what would happen should he fail. When Lena died later that year, a grieving Lex vowed to never let anything stand in the way of him reaching his goals ever again. [[spoiler: This turns out to be a lie. Lex ''did'' try to find a cure, but it failed and left her an invalid. However, unlike his fictionalized account, Lex claims this failure made him stronger]].
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** The second Zoom/Reverse-Flash, ComicBook/HunterZolomon, had a father who was a SerialKiller and who would eventually kill his mother when she finally got brave enough to call the cops, then the dad got gunned down by the cops--both deaths happening the same day Hunter was to leave for college. While this incident wasn't what led him to later become a super-villain, it did set the foundation for his belief that [[KnightTemplar tragedy makes better heroes]], which in turn led to him wanting to "improve" Wally West, who he felt didn't appreciate that a hero should be willing to do whatever it takes to prevent tragedy from repeating.
** The first Reverse-Flash, ComicBook/EobardThawne, was born in the 25th century to emotionally abusive parents who treated him as an obligation. He grew up to be obsessed with Barry Allen, the second Flash, seeing him as a source of the kindness and love that was lacking in his own life. In his adulthood, Thawne became a scientist who studied the Speed Force, and eventually managed to endow himself with super-speed. With no crimes to solve in his time, he begins causing accidents so that he can come to the "rescue" and look like a hero. When Barry Allen arrives in the 25th century, he puts a stop to Thawne and turns him in to the police for the "accidents". Thawne repents and tries to better himself, but feels betrayed when he realizes that Barry Allen has taken Wally West as a sidekick and not him. This causes Thawne to descend into villainy.

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** The second Zoom/Reverse-Flash, ComicBook/HunterZolomon, ''[[Characters/TheFlashHunterZolomon Hunter Zolomon]]'', had a father who was a SerialKiller and who would eventually kill his mother when she finally got brave enough to call the cops, then the dad got gunned down by the cops--both deaths happening the same day Hunter was to leave for college. While this incident wasn't what led him to later become a super-villain, it did set the foundation for his belief that [[KnightTemplar tragedy makes better heroes]], which in turn led to him wanting to "improve" Wally West, who he felt didn't appreciate that a hero should be willing to do whatever it takes to prevent tragedy from repeating.
** The first Reverse-Flash, ComicBook/EobardThawne, [[Characters/TheFlashEobardThawne Eobard Thawne]], was born in the 25th century to emotionally abusive parents who treated him as an obligation. He grew up to be obsessed with Barry Allen, the second Flash, seeing him as a source of the kindness and love that was lacking in his own life. In his adulthood, Thawne became a scientist who studied the Speed Force, and eventually managed to endow himself with super-speed. With no crimes to solve in his time, he begins causing accidents so that he can come to the "rescue" and look like a hero. When Barry Allen arrives in the 25th century, he puts a stop to Thawne and turns him in to the police for the "accidents". Thawne repents and tries to better himself, but feels betrayed when he realizes that Barry Allen has taken Wally West as a sidekick and not him. This causes Thawne to descend into villainy.
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** A perfect example of the slimy psychiatrist appears in Creator/FrankMiller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', in the form of Dr. Volper, who attempts to present ''the Joker'' as being a mere victim of Batman's psychosis. In thanks, the Joker snaps his neck on live television (while gassing the studio) -- although it's suggested that the psychiatrist, [[StrawCharacter irritating, blinkered and naive jerk]] though he may be, might have a point, as the Joker had spent the period that Batman had been absent from Gotham City in a catatonic state that he only emerged from when Batman returned.

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** A perfect example of the slimy psychiatrist appears in Creator/FrankMiller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', in the form of Dr. Volper, Wolper, who attempts to present ''the Joker'' as being a mere victim of Batman's psychosis. In thanks, the Joker snaps his neck on live television (while gassing the studio) -- although it's suggested that the psychiatrist, [[StrawCharacter irritating, blinkered and naive jerk]] though he may be, might have a point, as the Joker had spent the period that Batman had been absent from Gotham City in a catatonic state that he only emerged from when Batman returned.
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* ''ComicBook/TheBestWeCouldDo'': Thi describes her father as mean and emotionally neglectful, but comes to understand him once she starts learning about the horrific wartime poverty and trauma he endured as a child in post-World War II Vietnam.

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