History FreudianExcuse / ComicBooks

7th Jul '16 1:59:44 PM WanderingBrowser
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* It's not entirely unreasonable to see [[TheJuggernaut Doomsday]] as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds when one remembers that he's carrying the genetic memory of untold thousands of times he was brutally killed by the various predators, parasites, aggressive herbivores, {{Man Eating Plant}}s and other horrors of the DeathWorld that was prehistoric Krypton. The trauma of which has driven him insane with fear to the point he lashes out blindly at all other living things because he thinks the only way he can be safe is if everything else is ''dead''.
29th Jun '16 6:55:56 AM AdamC
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** Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy childhood" is a lie. In some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid.

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** Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy childhood" is a lie. In some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid. And in all of them he [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered one or both of his parents.]]
7th Jun '16 12:45:03 AM Anddrix
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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
** Played straight with the new Ultimate Doctor Doom as well; [[spoiler: Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to.

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In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' Issue #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
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** Played straight with the new Ultimate Doctor Doom as well; [[spoiler: Reed The Maker a.k.a [[spoiler:Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to.to nor would anyone let him change it for the better.
3rd Jun '16 6:47:25 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In the [[TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.

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* In the [[TheTransformersIDW [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.
27th May '16 2:03:02 PM Doug86
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* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.

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* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': ''ComicBook/XMen'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.
26th May '16 5:19:17 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Subverted in the ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' parody of ''TouchedByAnAngel''. The somewhat jerky boss objects to a flashback of him being abused by his father that is used to explain his behavior, saying that it isn't real, but the angel showing it tells him that they need it for TearJerker material.

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* Subverted in the ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' parody of ''TouchedByAnAngel''.''Series/TouchedByAnAngel''. The somewhat jerky boss objects to a flashback of him being abused by his father that is used to explain his behavior, saying that it isn't real, but the angel showing it tells him that they need it for TearJerker material.
31st Dec '15 6:08:41 PM Anddrix
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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':

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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} Loki would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
28th Dec '15 4:21:32 PM Anddrix
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* 616 DoctorDoom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....

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* 616 DoctorDoom Doctor Doom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....
28th Dec '15 4:04:37 PM Anddrix
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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on [[DoctorDoom Victor Van Damme]]'s tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.

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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on [[DoctorDoom Victor Van Damme]]'s Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
26th Dec '15 7:35:44 PM nombretomado
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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.

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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.
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