History FreudianExcuse / ComicBooks

17th Sep '16 5:15:47 PM mewmdude77
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**It later turned out that his machine was actually tampered with, but not by Reed Richard. Instead, it turned out Ben Grimm had purposefully tampered with Doom's machine.
2nd Sep '16 1:39:33 PM comicwriter
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*** It's also established in ''Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to beat the shit out of him. It's one of the reasons Ock WouldntHurtAChild.

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*** It's also established in ''Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' that he had an abusive father who used to regularly beat the shit out of him. It's one of the reasons Ock WouldntHurtAChild.



* 616 Doctor Doom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....

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* 616 Doctor Doom DoctorDoom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....



* {{Defied|Trope}} in ''ComicBook/XMen Noir''; [[spoiler:Jean Grey]]'s MotiveRant includes lamenting that Professor Xavier never truly accepted that she was ''always'' extremely immoral and manipulative. "Nobody touched me, nobody corrupted me. ''This is me.''"

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* {{Defied|Trope}} in ''ComicBook/XMen Noir''; [[spoiler:Jean Grey]]'s [[spoiler:Comicbook/JeanGrey]]'s MotiveRant includes lamenting that Professor Xavier never truly accepted that she was ''always'' extremely immoral and manipulative. "Nobody touched me, nobody corrupted me. ''This is me.''"



* Marvel's Loki would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':

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* Marvel's Loki Comicbook/{{Loki}} would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant.weak and small. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being one the only person people who probably actually loves love him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
21st Aug '16 11:58:58 AM nombretomado
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* In ECComics' "...So Shall Ye Reap!" (''Shock [=SuspenStories=]'' #10), a 20-year-old boy about to be executed reflects on the sad course of his life, as do his parents. The son's recollections, juxtaposed with those of his parents, show them to have been jealously overprotective and morally hypocritical, yet in the final panel he only blames himself for not having listened to them.

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* In ECComics' Creator/ECComics' "...So Shall Ye Reap!" (''Shock [=SuspenStories=]'' #10), a 20-year-old boy about to be executed reflects on the sad course of his life, as do his parents. The son's recollections, juxtaposed with those of his parents, show them to have been jealously overprotective and morally hypocritical, yet in the final panel he only blames himself for not having listened to them.
7th Jul '16 1:59:44 PM WanderingBrowser
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* It's not entirely unreasonable to see [[TheJuggernaut Doomsday]] as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds when one remembers that he's carrying the genetic memory of untold thousands of times he was brutally killed by the various predators, parasites, aggressive herbivores, {{Man Eating Plant}}s and other horrors of the DeathWorld that was prehistoric Krypton. The trauma of which has driven him insane with fear to the point he lashes out blindly at all other living things because he thinks the only way he can be safe is if everything else is ''dead''.
29th Jun '16 6:55:56 AM AdamC
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** Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy childhood" is a lie. In some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid.

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** Bullseye has a MultipleChoicePast, so it's possible "The Crappy childhood" is a lie. In some versions of his origin, he was bad even as a kid. And in all of them he [[SelfMadeOrphan murdered one or both of his parents.]]
7th Jun '16 12:45:03 AM Anddrix
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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
** Played straight with the new Ultimate Doctor Doom as well; [[spoiler: Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to.

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* ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'':
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In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' Issue #7, it is explained that on Victor Van Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
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** Played straight with the new Ultimate Doctor Doom as well; [[spoiler: Reed The Maker a.k.a [[spoiler:Reed Richards]]. Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to.to nor would anyone let him change it for the better.
3rd Jun '16 6:47:25 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In the [[TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.

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* In the [[TheTransformersIDW [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW IDW Transformers]] continuity, Megatron forms the Decepticons because he is oppressed by the corrupt Autobot Government, with his band originally formed as ''freedom fighters''. In a sense, most of the Decepticons fall under this trope.
27th May '16 2:03:02 PM Doug86
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* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.

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* ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': ''ComicBook/XMen'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.
26th May '16 5:19:17 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Subverted in the ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' parody of ''TouchedByAnAngel''. The somewhat jerky boss objects to a flashback of him being abused by his father that is used to explain his behavior, saying that it isn't real, but the angel showing it tells him that they need it for TearJerker material.

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* Subverted in the ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' parody of ''TouchedByAnAngel''.''Series/TouchedByAnAngel''. The somewhat jerky boss objects to a flashback of him being abused by his father that is used to explain his behavior, saying that it isn't real, but the angel showing it tells him that they need it for TearJerker material.
31st Dec '15 6:08:41 PM Anddrix
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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':

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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} Loki would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
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