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31st Dec '15 6:08:41 PM Anddrix
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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':

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* Marvel's SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} Loki would probably count. First, there is the fact that he is a midget giant who was abused by his real father for being a weak, midget giant. After he helps kill said father, he is adopted by Odin, who does so only because he is convinced that it is the only way to appease the spirit of his own dead father. After he is adopted, it is implied that [[TheUnfavourite Odin neglected him wholly in favor of his real son, Thor.]] Thor, in return, is implied to be one of maybe a hand full of people who like Loki, as well as maybe being the only person who probably actually loves him. For Loki, this boils down to a seething self-hatred, which he in turn projects onto Thor, which he only does because he knows that his brother will never completely turn him away. Lampshaded by Valeria Richards and Loki in issue #7 of ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'':
28th Dec '15 4:21:32 PM Anddrix
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* 616 DoctorDoom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....

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* 616 DoctorDoom Doctor Doom has traces of this as well. His mother sold her [[DealWithTheDevil soul]] to [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] in order to acquire greater magical powers, and she got killed when he was still a babe. His father tried to use science for the good of mankind, only to be oppressed by an [[AristocratsAreEvil local baron]] forcing him and Victor to run. Depending on the book you're reading, either Victor saw his father freeze to death or they were saved just in time.. only for his father to die of an illness... And then when he is about to save his mother, his most magnificent machine blows up... [[NeverMyFault Because of that Richards]].....
28th Dec '15 4:04:37 PM Anddrix
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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on [[DoctorDoom Victor Van Damme]]'s tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.

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* In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' #7, it is explained that on [[DoctorDoom Victor Van Damme]]'s Damme's tenth birthday he was presented with his family history dating back to Vlad Tepes Dracula and the blueprint for his villainous mindset, and from that day on at dinner he was required to recite said family history from memory, receiving beatings when he got it wrong and being forced to start over until he got it right. Not much of a Freudian Excuse, but... the last page of the flashback shows 10-year-old Victor sitting in the chair where he received the original lecture and instruction in five panels depicting it slowly getting darker. In the last one, he says "It's my birthday." If you don't feel sorry for him (at least the child version, not necessarily the one who proceeds to recite the names of his ancestors and ask if his father can hear him now while attacking the FF with a rocket launcher) after that, then you have a heart of stone.
26th Dec '15 7:35:44 PM nombretomado
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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.

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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.
28th Nov '15 5:31:19 PM nombretomado
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* A Child Services worker in ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'' has a rather poetic rant on this:

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* A Child Services worker in ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'' has a rather poetic rant on this:



* Junior from ''SecretSix'' has this turned all the way up to eleven. Her father was the original Golden Age Ragdoll, a psychopathic mass murderer and cult leader in the Charles Manson style. He beat his son because he wasn't triple jointed like he was and when it came to Junior (Real name Alex) he would repeatedly rape her, from a very young age. It doesn't excuse the horrific crimes she later commits (Junior is a sadist, rapist, mass murderer, and torturer whose crimes are so horrifying there are people in Arkham who are scared of her), but her father's character explains some of it.

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* Junior from ''SecretSix'' ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' has this turned all the way up to eleven. Her father was the original Golden Age Ragdoll, a psychopathic mass murderer and cult leader in the Charles Manson style. He beat his son because he wasn't triple jointed like he was and when it came to Junior (Real name Alex) he would repeatedly rape her, from a very young age. It doesn't excuse the horrific crimes she later commits (Junior is a sadist, rapist, mass murderer, and torturer whose crimes are so horrifying there are people in Arkham who are scared of her), but her father's character explains some of it.
7th Nov '15 8:28:58 PM nombretomado
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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.

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* An early [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] CaptainAmerica story had Cap the prisoner of the RedSkull ComicBook/RedSkull where he told of his tough early life as a homeless child, exploited by street criminals and who could only find work in menial labor until he met ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. However, Cap tells him to QuitYourWhining, noting that he himself struggled with poverty in his youth (although he had a loving mother) and is in no mood for sob stories.
18th Oct '15 1:28:59 PM Austin
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* Barracuda from ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'' series. Though an AffablyEvil character to the point of almost being likable, he turns on allies in an instant, given sufficient reason to do so, and tries to get revenge on Castle by [[spoiler: kidnapping his infant illegitimate daughter and planning to torture her to death in front of him]]. However, during a scene in which the tortured Barracuda snaps completely and utterly, a dialogue in his head reveals that his father had been abusive to the point of torturing his young son. When he goes off the deep end, Barracuda screams "I never did find you, Dad! I had to take this shit out on the goddamn world, instead!"

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* Barracuda from ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'' series. Though an AffablyEvil character to the point of almost being likable, he turns on allies in an instant, given sufficient reason to do so, and tries to get revenge on Castle by [[spoiler: kidnapping his infant illegitimate daughter and planning to torture her to death in front of him]]. However, during a scene in which the tortured Barracuda snaps completely and utterly, a dialogue in his head reveals that his father had been abusive to the point of torturing his young son. When he goes off the deep end, Barracuda screams "I never did find you, Dad! I had to "Never found him! Never fuckin' found him! Hadda take this that shit out on the goddamn world, instead!"onna muthafuckin' world!"
18th Oct '15 4:22:46 AM Anddrix
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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.

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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'': his parents and family were okay people, but they were Jews in Nazi Germany. He was the only one who lived; some issues say that he was forced to clean their ashes out of the incinerators. Magneto is constantly going through the HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, [[WellIntentionedExtremist always working to make the]] [[FantasticRacism oppressed mutants]] safer, often [[KnightTemplar going too far]]. By some accounts, he can't make himself believe that peaceful coexistence is possible.
18th Oct '15 2:02:17 AM Anddrix
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** ComicBook/TheRiddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles.

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** ComicBook/TheRiddler The Riddler is another of the "abusive father" strain. In particular, his father would savagely beat him every time he lied, so the Riddler feels the compulsion to always tell the truth... albeit in convoluted riddles.
13th Oct '15 5:15:08 AM ACW
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** Which would make this one rare example of Cap being a [[JerkAss hypocritical douche]], since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[Monster/MarvelAndIcon thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse.

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** Which would make this one rare example of Cap being a [[JerkAss hypocritical douche]], since he himself did well enough to study art at college before he joined up. The Skull is his ArchEnemy and a [[Monster/MarvelAndIcon [[Monster/MarvelComics thoroughly unpleasant individual]] besides, so he might probably be forgiven for this lapse.
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