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** Joffrey Baratheon. Both are young [[spoiler: kings]], but Joffrey is a coward who fears real combat and Robb is a brave military commander. [[spoiler:Also, they are both murdered at theirs weddings.]]

** Joffrey Baratheon. Both are young [[spoiler: kings]], but Joffrey is a coward who fears real combat and Robb is a brave military commander. [[spoiler:Also, they are both murdered at weddings.]]

** Stannis Baratheon. Both are honorable, duty-bound men from respective great houses. Both have played part at Robert's Rebellion but their deeds are not sung often by bards -- Stannis shows entitlement problem by this, Jon preferred that way. Both also suffers AwfulWeddedLife with many miscarriages which give them less "desirable" offsprings (one suffered greyscale as infant, another is weak).

** House Manderly. As a Seven-worshiping Andal (not to mention managing a shipping and trading empire as the head of the only city in the North) Wyman could be seen as representing the "new," at least relative to Roose Bolton, who not only is a First Man who worships the old gods, but who practices some customs such as the right of first night and flayings that have fallen out of favor elsewhere, though Roose cares little for the ancient tradition of guest right. The Boltons are an old Northern House who have often rebelled against the Starks [[spoiler:and end up displacing them as rulers of the North, taking control by one of them marrying a fake Stark.]] The Manderlys are relatively new to the North but are very loyal to the Starks and trying to return them to rule the North. The Manderlys also tried to become the rulers of another Kingdom, the Reach, when a Gardner King died without sons and one of his daughters was married to Lord Manderly, the Manderlys were eventually driven out of the Reach as they threatened the Gardeners, but settled in the North.

* Jon Arryn
** Eddard Stark. Both are honorable, duty-bound men who lord over respective great houses. Ned practically learnt a lot from his time in Eyrie as many late Jon's virtues rubbed to him. While Eddard is CountryMouse who are newbie to [[DeadlyDecadentCourt politics of King's Landing]], Late Jon did well for years he acted as Hand. Both have ArrangedMarriage to Tully sisters -- Ned and Cat became happy, Jon and Lysa are not.
** Stannis Baratheon. Both are honorable, duty-bound men from respective great houses. Both have played part at Robert's Rebellion but their deeds are not sung often by bards -- Stannis shows entitlement problem by this, Jon preferred that way. Both also suffers AwfulWeddedLife with many miscarriages which give them less "desirable" offsprings (one suffered greyscale as infant, another is weak).

** Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, good-hearted [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive boys]] who join orders which have them become the CelibateHero. Both came to a foreign land and were seduced by respective women in those lands, who they fell in love with. Both are influenced by their environment and love. But they take different actions as a result -- Jon remains heroic, undergoes CharacterDevelopment and matures while, in contrast, Arys becomes rather perverted [[spoiler:and does not mature, dying before any additional CharacterDevelopment can occur]]. [[spoiler: Arys changes his allegiance to Arianne and "betrays" both the Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon chooses Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because they dabble in politics -- Arys dies after SuicideByCop when Arianne's scheme, which he joins, fail. Jon is betrayed in a mutiny by some members of the Night's Watch because he gave some advice to Stannis, let the Free Folk south of the Wall in his efforts to save everyone from the oncoming threat of [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]], and intended to go south and deal with [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]] when Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** Wyllas Tyrell. Both are more competent lords than their fathers. Both have two brothers and one sisters. Both are no longer physically fit -- Wyllas was crippled by Oberyn, Tywin is over the hill (50-something in the books, 67 in TV series). Both likes to hunt. Wyllas is NceGuy who get overshadowed by his siblings, Tywin is grim, ruthless man who overshadow his siblings.

** Tattered Prince. He's a ruler who abdicated his throne and left to become a wandering soldier of fortune. Exactly what Robert Baratheon wished he could do. Both have IconicItem -- The Tattered Prince is his tattered raiment, Robert is his horned helm. Their positions are just PuppetKing -- Tattered Prince left because of this and his life will be endangered should any misfortune happen to Pentos, Robert's circumstance happen because he is too depressed and lazy to give a damn. Both take different action to their unwanted "leader" position -- The Tattered Prince left but yearns to return to Pentos but not as Magisters' puppet, Robert stay because Westeros, Robert stay because giving free rein to Joffrey and Cersei is bad idea and always wish to be a sellsword.

** Cersei Lannister. Both love their children, Catelyn even seeing some justification in Cersei's actions. However Catelyn has a loving relationship with her husband [[spoiler:while Cersei cheats on her husband with her brother Jaime.]] Also [[spoiler:both are driven into madness and obsessive anger when their first son is murdered in front of them.]]
** Stannis Baratheon. They both believe in doing their duty, even if they hate it and how much doing it costs them. They also end taking dark paths because of it. Stannis starts to dabble in BloodMagic and HumanSacrifice while Catelyn [[spoiler: becomes utterly fixated on revenge as Lady Stoneheart, and commits indiscriminate murders along the way.]]
** Tywin Lannister. Both Catelyn and Tywin practically raised their siblings by themselves and in both cases, their siblings were not up to par; when it comes to their children, both their legacies went down after a series of their own mistakes. Also, they are abusive towards a family member that they consider unworthy (Jon Snow and Tyrion), they have a son who is crippled/stunted (Bran and Tyrion again) have adventurous sons who are heirs to the family name (Jaime and Robb), a rebellious daughter (Arya and Cersei) and a princess-like daughter (Sansa and Cersei again).

** Joffrey Baratheon. Both are young [[spoiler: kings]], but Joffrey is a coward who fears real combat and Robb is a brave military commander. [[spoiler:Also they are both murdered at weddings.]]

* Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, good-hearted [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive boys]] who join orders which have them become the CelibateHero. Both came to a foreign land and were seduced by respective women in those lands, who they fell in love with. Both are influenced by their environment and love. But they take different actions as a result -- Jon remains heroic, undergoes CharacterDevelopment and matures while, in contrast, Arys becomes rather perverted [[spoiler:and does not mature, dying before any additional CharacterDevelopment can occur]]. [[spoiler: Arys changes his allegiance to Arianne and "betrays" both the Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon chooses Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because they dabble in politics -- Arys dies after SuicideByCop when Arianne's scheme, which he joins, fail. Jon is betrayed in a mutiny by some members of the Night's Watch because he gave some advice to Stannis, let the Free Folk south of the Wall in his efforts to save everyone from the oncoming threat of [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]], and intended to go south and deal with [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]] when Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** Rhaegar Targaryen. Both are [[WarriorPrince Warrior Princes]] widely thought of as TheAce and BigGood, with a HundredPercentAdorationRating, and are in-universe [[MemeticBadass Memetic Badasses]]. Both made bad decisions in regards to a woman (Rhaegar eloping with/kidnapping Lyanna Stark, Robb [[spoiler:marrying Jeyne Westerling]]) that required breaking marriage-related vows (Rhaegar's vows to Elia Martell, Robb's [[spoiler:marriage alliance with the Freys]]) and ultimately [[spoiler:got them killed]]. They were both possibly motivated by family history regarding childbearing (Rhaegar's wish to fulfill the Prince That Was Promised prophecy, Robb's fear of siring a bastard like his father). After their deaths, former supporters remain deeply devoted to their memories, and [[spoiler:plot to put their heirs (Aegon VI and Rickon Stark) on the throne]]. Both are entirely shown to us from others' perspectives, Robb being one of the only Starks who is not a viewpoint character, and Rhaegar being one of the most notable [[PosthumousCharacter Posthumous Characters]], leaving them subject to a lot of AlternateCharacterInterpretation. Both are also brothers to two characters often speculated to be TheChosenOne (see Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow, below.)

** Daenerys Targaryen. Sansa is what would have happened to Daenerys if she didn't have had the mechanisms to fight back and and if she weren't surrounded by prophecy. It's fair to point out that Dany greatly relied in the charity of others to survive up to the events of AGOT and these same people might be pushing these gifts for her to fulfill said prophecy. While Sansa is largely a political pawn, Dany has several people on her back trying to make her an ideological pawn. Both see themselves as dissatisfied with their aspirations once they fulfill them: Sansa has dreamt of a courtly, glamorous life; Dany was told all her life she is a natural-born leader who is meant to rule -- but once they come to realize these aspirations, they both find out that the reality of their aspirations is far more crushing, dangerous and difficult than either of them could know. Both are very attractive but have found little advantage to it. Both have been separated from their families. Sansa has four brothers who love her while Daenerys' own brother uses her as a pawn and treats her poorly. [[spoiler: In more recent events, both Sansa and Daenerys are trying to shed their personae and become more pragmatic... only that Dany has dragons and hasn't used them fully.]]

** Robert Arryn. Sweetrobin is what could have happened to Bran had he yielded to Theon or stayed at Winterfell. They are both young kids when they are thrown into ruling their respective keeps; Bran has a bit of a grasp on leadership while Sweetrobin ''really'' does not. Bran is physically impaired due to his fall, while Sweetrobin is impaired by his feebleness and coddling from his mother. Bran is significantly more mature and resourceful than Sweetrobin and is able to avoid becoming a political token at the price of losing Winterfell; Sweetrobin is holding on for dear life to the seat of the Eyrie with multiple people expecting him to die.

* Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, good-hearted [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive boys]] who join orders which have them become the CelibateHero. Both came to foreign land and seduced by respective women in those lands, whom they fell in love with. Both are changed by their environment and love. But they take different action because of change -- Jon remains heroic, undergoes CharacterDevelopment and matures while, in contrast, Arys becomes rather perverted [[spoiler:and does not mature, dying before any additional CharacterDevelopment can occur]]. [[spoiler: Arys changes his allegiance to Arianne and "betrays" both the Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon chooses Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because they dabble in politics -- Arys dies after SuicideByCop when Arianne's scheme, which he joins, fail. Jon is betrayed in a mutiny by some members of the Night's Watch because he gave some advice to Stannis, let the Free Folk south of the Wall in his efforts to save everyone from the oncoming threat of [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]], and intended to deal with [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]] when Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** Myrcella Baratheon. Myrcella is every bit the child princess Arya refuses to be, but with none of the abuse that Sansa saw. Myrcella, for the most part, was able to see herself safe precisely by abiding to her betrothed. Arya, herself, was betrothed to a Frey boy that she actually met, but none of them knew each other when it happened. When it came to the time, however, [[spoiler:Myrcella was unable to avoid becoming a political pawn and got maimed for it]], while Arya was able to escape being a political pawn, but through a great deal of suffering.
** Lyanna Stark. Arya is frequently compared to her aunt by many characters, especially her father, from looks to personality. Like Lyanna, Arya is tomboy-ish, one-of-the-boys, HotBlooded and has a tendency to defend the weak. Both were separated from their families during a war, and never got rescued.

** Jaime Lannister. Both are Lord Commanders of the white and black brotherhoods, which they joined at a young age for the sake of honour and duty as the WideEyedIdealist, and both came from highborn upbringings. During their respective journeys, they are left disappointed when they find out that the brotherhood they joined was no longer as great as they expected and once were. Jaime is long reviled as a kingslayer when he kills the Mad King to save an entire city of innocent people from aforementioned king wanting to burn them all, while a group of the Night's Watch believe Jon to be an oathbreaker due to his sympathy for the wildlings (who Jon sees as men, women and children regardless of where they come from -- in contrast to the views of many in the Night's Watch) when he goes against tradition to do what's right and protect innocent people in his efforts to save everyone.

* Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, good-hearted [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive boys]] who join orders which have them become the CelibateHero. Both came to foreign land and seduced by respective women in those lands, whom they fell in love with. Both are changed by their environment and love. But they take different action because of change -- Jon remains heroic, undergoes CharacterDevelopment and matures while, in contrast, Arys becomes rather perverted [[spoiler:and does not mature, dying before any additional CharacterDevelopment]]. [[spoiler: Arys changes his allegiance to Arianne and "betraya" both the Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon chooses Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because they dabble in politics -- Arys dies after SuicideByCop when Arianne's scheme, which he joins, fail. Jon is betrayed in a mutiny by some members of the Night's Watch because he gave some advice to Stannis, let the Free Folk south of the Wall in his efforts to save everyone from the oncoming threat of [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]], and intended to deal with [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]] when Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** Robert Arryn. Sweetrobin is what could have happened to Bran had he yielded to Theon or stayed at Winterfell. They are both young kids when they are thrown into ruling their keeps; Bran has a little grasp on it while Sweetrobin does not. Bran is physically impaired because of his fall while Sweetrobin is impaired by his feebleness. Bran is significantly more mature and resourceful than Sweetrobin and is able to avoid becoming a political token at the price of losing Winterfell; Sweetrobin is holding on for dear life to the seat of the Eyrie with multiple people expecting him to die.

** Ramsay Snow. Both are the bastard sons of powerful Northern lords. However, Jon's father loved and cared for him alongside his trueborn siblings since infancy, Jon is an acknowledged, highborn bastard son who loves his father and siblings while Ramsay's father left him to his peasant mother, holds Ramsay in contempt, treats him poorly and didn't acknowledge Ramsay until he had no other choice. Jon also deeply loves his half-siblings and passes up a chance at legitimization in consideration of their inheritance claims; Ramsay jumped at the chance to be legitimized, and may have even murdered his half-brother to become the only heir. [[HeroicBastard Jon is honorable, heroic, and strives to do the right thing]] while [[BastardBastard Ramsay is pretty much the direct opposite of that]].

* Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, good-hearted [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive men]] who join orders requiring them to be CelibateHero. Both came to foreign land and seduced by respective women in those lands, whom they fell in love with. Both are changed by their environment and love. But they take different action because of change -- Jon remains heroic, undergoes CharacterDevelopment and matures while, in contrast, Arys becomes rather perverted [[spoiler:and does not mature, dying before any additional CharacterDevelopment]]. [[spoiler: Arys changes his allegiance to Arianne and "betraya" both the Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon chooses Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because they dabble in politics -- Arys dies after SuicideByCop when Arianne's scheme, which he joins, fail. Jon is betrayed in a mutiny by some members of the Night's Watch because he gave some advice to Stannis, let the Free Folk south of the Wall in his efforts to save everyone from the oncoming threat of [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]], and intended to deal with [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]] when Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** Tywin Lannister. Both are ruthless, competent lords who believe in PragmaticVillainy. Both are TokenEvilTeammate at respective rebel team (Tywin to Robert's, Roose to Robb's). [[spoiler:Both also sleep with other women after their wives die.]] Both are very cold -- Tywin is this to the bone while Roose hides his sadism underneath said facade. Both cannot continue their legacies by their preferred heir. Both have another son who they treat poorly but they take different course when they have to name said sons as respective heir (especialy considering said sons are technically last choice) -- Roose eventually legitimizes Ramsay, Tywin stubbornly refuses to name Tyrion as his heir.

* Arys Oakheart. Both are decent, [[SkilledButNaive martial-savvy but somewhat naive men]] who joined orders that are supposed to be CelibateHero. Both came to foreign land and seduced by respective women at those land. Both are changed by their environment and love. But they take different action because of change -- Jon has CharacterDevelopment and matures, Arys became rather perverted [[spoiler:but not mature, he dies before any other CharacterDevelopment]]. [[spoiler: Arys change his allegiance to Arianne and "betray" both Kingsguard and Myrcella, Jon choose Night's Watch over Ygritte. Both pay because the dabble at politics -- Arys dies because SuicideByCop after Arianne's scheme which he joined fail, Jon was stabbed multiple times and suspected to die because he gave some advice to Stannis, lets the Free Folks past the gates of the Wall, and intended to siege Winterfell because Ramsay threatened to attack Castle Black first.]]

** House Stark. The Martells rule a hedonistic kingdom in the desert. Starks rule what is seen as a domain of frozen waste and grim men. Doran, Oberyn and Elia's relationship mirror that of Eddard, Brandon and Lyanna. Even more so then that; whereas the Starks' lineage is infamous due to Torrhen Stark, the King Who Knelt, the Martells are proud to be the only unconquered kingdom of Westeros. And while the Starks are the in-universe poster family for HonorBeforeReason, the Martells are marked by their pragmatic and sneaky approach to life. And yet in spite of these differences, both families have a major hate-on for the Lannisters, even though they were on opposite sides of Robert's Rebellion. Additionally, both regions share the fact that they're cultural outliers among the Seven Kingdoms: The Dornish for their aforementioned Rhoynish influences, and the North for being the only kingdom not to have been overrun or assimilated by the Andals. Both cares deeply for smallfolks -- Starks heed the wisdoms of First Men, Martells discover the wisdom after Princess Daenerys (no, not our Dany) that was betrothed to their Prince came to conclusion that under their clothes, the children of nobles can't be distinguished from children of smallfolks. Both lead the regions which are good at fighting defensively at respective harsh home terrains and easily defended pass (or fighting in general) -- [[HadToBeSharp men]] [[GrimUpNorth of north]] are famed for their martial prowess by either nobles or smallfolks, Dorne produces long list of finest knights in Seven Kingdom and have their guerrilla tactics as defensive strategy.

** Tywin Lannister. Both are ruthless, competent lords who believe in PragmaticVillainy. Both are TokenEvilTeammate at respective rebel team (Tywin to Robert's, Roose to Robb's). [[spoiler:Both also sleep with other women after their wives die.]] Both are very cold -- Tywin is this to the bone while Roose hides his sadism underneath said facade. Both cannot continue their legacies by their preferred heir. Both has another son whom they treat poorly but they take different course when they have to name said sons as respective heir (especialy considering said sons are technically last choice) -- Roose eventually legitimizes Ramsay, Tywin stubbornly refuses to name Tyrion as his heir.

** To Arys Oakheart. Areo acknowledges this trope in his internal monologue. In his word, both are soldiers coming to foreign Dorne guarding respective princess, ChasteHero, loyal, decent blokes who even have similar names, Arys and Areo but noted the similarities end there. Areo loves Princess Arianne (in parental way), Arys is loved (genuinely, as lover) by Arianne. Arys is Kingsguard who is supposed to be CelibateHero who loves Arianne because she seduced him, Areo is suspected to have CargoShip to his axe. Areo even wondered who would survive if the two clashed in his POV chapter. [[spoiler: Both shifts their allegiances from their initial princesses -- Areo to Prince Doran, Arys to Princess Arianne. When time come for Arianne to start her scheme -- Areo sticks to Prince Doran, Arys "betray" Myrcella to Arianne because he reciprocated Arianne's love. Finally as the scheme failed miserably, Arys dies (suspected to be SuicideByCop) at the hand of Areo.]]

** House Stark. The Martells rule a hedonistic kingdom in the desert. Starks rule what is seen as a domain of frozen waste and grim men. Doran, Oberyn and Elia's relationship mirror that of Eddard, Brandon and Lyanna. Even more so then that; whereas the Starks' lineage is infamous due to Torrhen Stark, the King Who Knelt, the Martells are proud to be the only unconquered kingdom of Westeros. And while the Starks are the in-universe poster family for HonorBeforeReason, the Martells are marked by their pragmatic and sneaky approach to life. And yet in spite of these differences, both families have a major hate-on for the Lannisters, even though they were on opposite sides of Robert's Rebellion. Additionally, both regions share the fact that they're cultural outliers among the Seven Kingdoms: The Dornish for their aforementioned Rhoynish influences, and the North for being the only kingdom not to have been overrun or assimilated by the Andals. Both are good at fighting defensively at respective harsh home terrains and easily defended pass or fighting at general -- GrimUpNorth prides itself as the men HadToBeSharp, Dorne produces long list of finest knights in Seven Kingdom and their guerrilla tactics. Both cares deeply for smallfolks -- Stark learnt from wisdoms of First Men, Martells discover the wisdom after one of their observation that under their clothes, the children of nobles can't be distinguished from children of smallfolks.

** Davos Seaworth. Both are very loyal to those who elevated their family -- the Manderlys were already a powerful House but the Starks allowed them to settle in the North; the Seaworths are a very new House, Davos having only just founded it. Both are trying to restore their Lords to power. And both have naval associations.

** To Arys Oakheart. Areo acknowledges this trope in his internal monologue. In his word, both are soldiers coming to foreign Dorne guarding respective princess, ChasteHero, loyal, decent blokes who even have similar names, Arys and Areo but noted the similarities end there. Areo loves Princess Arianne (in parental way), Arys is loved (genuinely, as lover) by Arianne. Arys is [[CelibateHero Kigsguard]] who has loved no-one even when seduced by Arianne, Areo is suspected to have CargoShip to his axe. Areo sometimes wondered who would survive if the two clashed.

** House Stark. The Martells rule a hedonistic kingdom in the desert. Starks rule what is seen as a domain of frozen waste and grim men. Doran, Oberyn and Elia's relationship mirror that of Eddard, Brandon and Lyanna. Even more so then that; whereas the Starks' lineage is infamous due to Torrhen Stark, the King Who Knelt, the Martells are proud to be the only unconquered kingdom of Westeros. And while the Starks are the in-universe poster family for HonorBeforeReason, the Martells are marked by their pragmatic and sneaky approach to life. And yet in spite of these differences, both families have a major hate-on for the Lannisters, even though they were on opposite sides of Robert's Rebellion. Additionally, both regions share the fact that they're cultural outliers among the Seven Kingdoms: The Dornish for their aforementioned Rhoynish influences, and the North for being the only kingdom not to have been overrun or assimilated by the Andals.

** House Lannister. There are few better comparisons between TheHero and one candidate of the BigBad in BigBadEnsemble. Both are ancient and powerful Houses with good militaries. Both were once kings whom were reduced to liege lord by Targaryens. House Stark rules GrimUpNorth with fewer resources, House Lannister rules a warmer land with many more natural resources. Both are concerned with honor but the Starks' stem from doing what's right, just, or both, while the Lannisters' stem from their self-interest and arrogance. Starks have an HonorBeforeReason attitude who see [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility ruling as duty]], Lannisters see ruling more as [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks their right.]] Male Starks wear utilitarian gear most of the time, male Lannisters wear extravagant clothes even while [[BlingOfWar going to battle]]. Lannisters play the Game of Thrones and hone their skills to win it while Starks detest this game because of said HonorBeforeReason and definitely lose big time if trying to play it. Lannisters [[BigScrewedUpFamily are a big family but don't have the best relationships]] (with the exception of the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime). Starks are a smaller but loving family (except for Catelyn's cold treatment of Jon Snow, but Jon is loved by the rest of the family). Starks have primarily descended from the First Men while Lannisters, like other southerners, are now mostly descended from the Andals. Both used to have Valyrian Swords -- Lannisters lost theirs long ago, Starks lost theirs recently [[spoiler:thanks to the Lannisters confiscating said sword and reforging it.]] [[spoiler:Both lost many important members during the War of Five Kings.]]

** Kevan Lannister. Both are highly capable and basically decent- or at least, principled- men who are loyal to less scrupulous, more murderous lords they regard as family (Robert and Tywin, respectively, though Tywin actually ''is'' Kevan's family), generally ignoring the faults that ultimately get those men killed (ie. their whoring and their treatment of the ''rest'' of their family) because they think said men deserve to be in charge- Ned gets a twofer since he thinks his older brother Brandon would have been a better head of House Stark, just as Kevan thought that Tywin was most suited to heading House Lannister. They both show themselves to be good family men who genuinely love their family. [[spoiler:Both men die pretty much because they followed their principles and both men's' deaths serve mainly to make Westeros more unstable; its less direct with Ned, but both are also killed by children.]]

** Rhaenyra Targaryen. They both faced questions of the legitimacy of their children and are proven to have been historically incompetent rulers; both Rhaenyra and Cersei are considered to be among the most beautiful women of their respective times; they both started a war when the legitimacy was called into question and both managed to scorn their lovers (to whom they are related) and allies due to their caustic personalities; both had their older and younger sons become kings (in the case of Rhaenyra, her surviving ''legitimate'' children); and finally, they both lost control of their navies due to their mistakes regarding House Velaryon[[note]]-Rhaenyra lost her navy when he imprisoned Corlys Velaryon after he let his heir Addam escape; Cersei lost her navy when he gave control of it to Aurane Waters, a Velaryon bastard, who fled and crowned himself a pirate with it-[[/note]].

** Tattered Prince. Copied from Characters - Sellswords- The Windblown. He's a ruler who abdicated his throne and left to become a wandering soldier of fortune. Exactly what Robert Baratheon wished he could do. Both have IconicItem -- TP is his tattered raiment, Robert is his horned helm. Their positions are just PuppetKing -- Tattered Prince left because of this and his life will be endangered should any misfortune happen to Pentos, Robert's circumstance happen because he is too depressed and lazy to give a damn. Both take different action to their unwanted "leader" position -- TP left but yearns to return to Pentos but not as Magisters' puppet, Robert stay because Westeros, Robert stay because giving free rein to Joffrey and Cersei is bad idea and always wish to be a sellsword.

** Viserys Targaryen. Both are sons of Kings who were defeated in a rebellion: one the King being rebelled against, who died; one the King rebelling to crown himself, who lived. Both were forced to leave the only homes they had ever known as boys. Both deeply romanticise their past and their heritage. Both are obsessed with their status, even though this primarily incites mockery from the people around them. Both of them attempt to gain the positions of power they think are rightfully theirs, which leads to a HumiliationConga. When Viserys loses his status (because the Dothraki just don't care about it), his subsequent FreakOut [[spoiler:leads to his death]]. When Theon loses his status (because [[spoiler:Ramsay cruelly and deliberately takes it from him]]), he symbolically 'dies', [[spoiler:being recreated as the commoner Reek – however he is later 'resurrected' and regains his identity]].

** Robert Baratheon. Both are extremely bloodlusty, both like fucking everything that moves, both are charismatic legends who overshadow a younger, more principled sibling, both like drinking and they both father several bastards they don't care about. Robert said that he always wanted to let the throne go and go across the world as a 'sellsword king', fighting, drinking and fornicating. Sounds a lot like what Euron's been doing for several years. All that said though, while Robert had his dark side he never had anywhere near the level of sociopathic cruelty Euron possesses. They are both TheCharmer, good at rallying men to their cause, but with Euron it seems to be a more sociopathic way of manipulation.

** Renly Baratheon. They are the more famous, colorful and magnetic brothers who rally great armies to their cause and usurp crowns from cold, hard, unglamorous military men. They contrast in that Renly is a younger brother whose quest to ignore the laws of succession and become king over Stannis is fully supported by the a large number of Lords, and Euron is the older brother as well as the unpopular vote and has to convince The Iron Islands to make him king over his more traditional brother, Victarion. Where Renly hoped to prevail over his brother and become king through battle, Euron needed only words to sway the Ironborn to his side. And while Renly is a flashy man who has pretensions of being a Warrior Prince despite never seeing any actual fighting, Euron is a flashy man who really is a Warrior Prince as well as an Omnicidal Maniac known for his battle prowess, his devious mind, and the brutal tactics he employs. While Renly is quite willing to kill his older brother in battle because of them opposing his weaker claim, Euron probably murdered his older brother with an assassin, making it look like an accident.

** House Manderly. Copied wholesale from Subsection Wyman Manderly - Roose Bolton. Additionally, as a Seven-worshipping Andal (not to mention managing a shipping and trading empire as the head of the only city in the North) Wyman could be seen as representing the "new," at least relative to Roose Bolton, who not only is a First Man who worships the old gods, but who practices some customs such as the right of first night and flayings that have fallen out of favor elsewhere, though Roose cares little for the ancient tradition of guest right. The Boltons are an old Northern House who have often rebelled against the Starks [[spoiler:and end up displacing them as rulers of the North, taking control by one of them marrying a fake Stark.]] The Manderlys are relatively new to the North but are very loyal to the Starks and trying to return them to rule the North. The Manderlys also tried to become the rulers of another Kingdom, the Reach, when a Gardner King died without sons and one of his daughters was married to Lord Manderly, the Manderlys were eventually driven out of the Reach as they threatened the Gardeners, but settled in the North.

*** Additionally, as a Seven-worshipping Andal (not to mention managing a shipping and trading empire as the head of the only city in the North) Wyman could be seen as representing the "new," at least relative to Roose Bolton, who not only is a First Man who worships the old gods, but who practices some customs such as the right of first night and flayings that have fallen out of favor elsewhere, though Roose cares little for the ancient tradition of guest right. The Boltons are an old Northern House who have often rebelled against the Starks [[spoiler:and end up displacing them as rulers of the North, taking control by one of them marrying a fake Stark.]] The Manderlys are relatively new to the North but are very loyal to the Starks and trying to return them to rule the North. The Manderlys also tried to become the rulers of another Kingdom, the Reach, when a Gardner King died without sons and one of his daughters was married to Lord Manderly, the Manderlys were eventually driven out of the Reach as they threatened the Gardeners, but settled in the North.

** Tattered Prince. Copied from Characters - Sellswords- The Windblown. He's a ruler who abdicated his throne and left to become a wandering soldier of fortune. Exactly what Robert Baratheon wished he could do. Their positions are just PuppetKing -- Tattered Prince left because of this and his life will be endangered should any misfortune happen to Pentos, Robert's circumstance happen because he is too depressed and lazy to give a damn. Both don't want their "nobility leader" position -- TP left but yearns to return to Pentos but not as Magisters' puppet, Robert stay because Westeros, Robert stay because giving free rein to Joffrey and Cersei is bad idea and always wish to be a sellsword.

** Tattered Prince. Copied from Characters - TheWindblown. He's a ruler who abdicated his throne and left to become a wandering soldier of fortune. Exactly what Robert Baratheon wished he could do. Their positions are just PuppetKing -- Tattered Prince left because of this and his life will be endangered should any misfortune happen to Pentos, Robert's circumstance happen because he is too depressed and lazy to give a care.

* Roose Bolton
** Ned Stark. See above.
** Euron Greyjoy. See above.

** Tywin Lannister. Both are ruthless, competent lords who believe in PragmaticVillainy. Both are TokenEvilTeammate at respective rebel team (Tywin to Robert's, Roose to Robb's). [[spoiler:Both also sleep with other women after their wives die.]] Both are very cold -- Tywin is this to the bone while Roose hides his sadism underneath said facade. Both cannot continue their legacies by their preferred heir. Roose treats his bastard son Ramsay very poorly, leaves him to his peasant mother, disinherits him, but eventually legitimizes him ''only'' when Roose has no other choice for an heir; Tywin likewise treats his son Tyrion Lannister very poorly all of his life, despite how much he and Tyrion are alike, but refuses to name Tyrion as his heir.

* House Stark. See below.

** Davos Seaworth. Both are very loyal to those who elevated their family, the Manderlys were already a powerful House but the Starks allowed them to settle in the North, the Seaworths are a very new House, Davos having only just founded it. Both are trying to restore their Lords to power. And both have naval associations.

** House Lannister. There are few better comparisons between TheHero and one candidate of the BigBad in BigBadEnsemble. Both are ancient and powerful Houses with good militaries. Both were once kings whom were reduced to liege lord by Targaryens. House Stark rules GrimUpNorth with fewer resources, House Lannister rules a warmer land with many more natural resources. Both are concerned with honor but the Starks' stem from doing what's right, just, or both, while the Lannisters' stem from their self-interest and arrogance. Starks have an HonorBeforeReason attitude see [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility ruling as duty]], Lannisters see ruling more as [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks their right.]] Male Starks wear utilitarian gear most of the time, male Lannisters wear extravagant clothes even while [[BlingOfWar going to battle]]. Lannisters play the Game of Thrones and hone their skills to win it while Starks detest this game because of said HonorBeforeReason and definitely lose big time if trying to play it. Lannisters [[BigScrewedUpFamily are a big family but don't have the best relationships]] (with the exception of the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime). Starks are a smaller but loving family (except for Catelyn's cold treatment of Jon Snow, but Jon is loved by the rest of the family). Starks have primarily descended from the First Men while Lannisters, like other southerners, are now mostly descended from the Andals. Both used to have Valyrian Swords -- Lannisters lost theirs long ago, Starks lost theirs recently [[spoiler:thanks to the Lannisters confiscating said sword and reforging it.]] [[spoiler:Both lost many important members during the War of Five Kings.]]
** House Targaryen. Both are respected and powerful Houses. Members of both houses have a tendency of having supernatural power because their respective exotic lineage. Both used to have lines of kings but the Starks' line of kings were ended when Torrhen Stark bent the knee to Aegon I Targaryen and became warden of the North. The Targaryen's line of kings is cut as the result of Robert's Rebellion. Targaryens are a good example of both RoyallyScrewedUp and/or TheHighKing-s with some members (but not all) exhibiting madness while the Starks are more grounded with a tendency toward a more reserved, stoic temperament. Targaryens are associated with fire and dragons, Starks are associated with ice, wolves and winter.

** Daenerys Targaryen. Sansa is what would have happened to Daenerys if she didn't have had the mechanisms to fight back and and if she weren't surrounded by prophecy. It's fair to point out that Dany greatly relied in the charity of others to survive up to the events of AGOT and these same people might be pushing these gifts for her to fulfill said prophecy. While Sansa is largely a political pawn, Dany has several people on her back trying to make her an ideological pawn. Both see themselves as dissatisfied with their aspirations once they fulfill them: Sansa was dreamt of a courtly, glamorous life; Dany was told all her life she is a natural-born leader who is meant to rule -- only for them both to find out that the reality of their aspirations is far more crushing, dangerous and difficult than either of them realized. Both are very attractive but have found little advantage to it. Both have been separated from their families. Sansa has four brothers who love her while Daenerys' own brother uses her as a pawn and treats her poorly. [[spoiler: In more recent events, both Sansa and Daenerys are trying to shed their personae and become more pragmatic... only that Dany has dragons and hasn't used them fully.]]

** Lysa Arryn. Both are mothers determined to protect their children but Lysa's strategy is to simply run and hide from all the problems. Not to mention she is creepily overprotective of her son.

** Tywin Lannister. Both Catelyn and Tywin practically raised their siblings by themselves and in both cases their siblings were not up to par; when it comes to their children, both their legacies went down after a series of their own mistakes. Also, they are abusive towards a family member that they consider unworthy (Jon Snow and Tyrion), they have a son who is crippled/stunted (Bran and Tyrion again) have adventurous sons who are heirs to the family name (Jaime and Robb), a rebellious daughter (Arya and Cersei) and a princess-like daughter (Sansa and Cersei again).

** Lysa Tully. Both Lysa and Sansa fell in love with the wrong kind of man except Lysa never learns and becomes Littlefinger's willing pawn [[spoiler:going so far as killing her husband Jon Arryn for his sake]].

** Daenerys Targaryen. Sansa is what would have happened to Daenerys if she didn't have had the mechanisms to fight back and and if she weren't surrounded by prophecy. It's fair to point out that Dany greatly relied in the charity of others to survive up to the events of AGOT and these same people might be pushing these gifts for her to fulfill said prophecy. While Sansa is largely a political pawn, Dany has several people on her back trying to make her an ideological pawn. Both see themselves as dissatisfied with their aspirations once they fulfill them: Sansa was dreamt of a courtly, glamorous life; Dany was told all her life she is a natural-born leader who is meant to rule -- only for them both to find out that the reality of their aspirations is far more crushing, dangerous and difficult than either of them realized. Both are very attractive but have found little advantage to it. Both have been separated from their families. [[spoiler: In more recent events, they both are trying to shed their personae and become more pragmatic... only that Dany has dragons and hasn't used them fully.]]

** Daenerys Targaryen. Both are highborn girls who have fallen on hard times, lost many family members, and have spent much time living in squalor in a foreign land. Their quests also involve the supernatural and the pursuit of justice. Unlike Daenerys though, Arya doesn't blindly judge people; she understands that being part of a group doesn't make someone like the rest. While Daenerys' brother Viserys treated her horribly, Arya has four brothers -- Robb, Jon, Rickon and Bran -- who love her deeply. Daenerys orders the crucifixion of 163 slavers, not wanting to think that there might be good people among them, because being a slaver makes someone evil by default. Arya chooses not to include the Freys on her list because she doesn't know the names of the ones involved in the deaths of [[spoiler:her brother Robb and her mother Cateylyn]].

** Myrcella Baratheon. Myrcella is every bit the child princess Arya refused to be with none of the abuse that Sansa saw. Myrcella for the most part was able to see herself safe precisely by abiding to her betrothed. Arya herself was betrothed to a Frey boy that she actually met, but none of them knew each other when it happened. When it came to the time, however, [[spoiler:Myrcella was unable to avoid becoming a political pawn and got maimed for it]], while Arya was able to escape being a political pawn through a great deal of suffering.

** Bael the Bard. The parallelism between their lives are uncanny, like it was no coincidence. The former heir of Westeros was a WarriorPrince who shared Bael's taste for [[WarriorPoet songs]], Stark ladies, [[FlowersOfRomance blue winter roses]] and [[AbductionIsLove style of courtship]]. Both love affairs brought misery to House Stark and ultimately brought about their own deaths. Lord Brandon almost died without heirs but Bael's son with Lord Brandon's daughter is the next Lord Stark who ends up [[{{Patricide}} killing Bael himself]]. Rhaegar Targaryen's actions caused a civil war that killed another Brandon Stark and ultimately leads to his own death. Lady Stark eventually gave birth her son by Bael and later commits suicide after his death. Lyanna Stark died [[spoiler: but also with the [[EpilepticTrees strong possibility]] she had just given birth to her son with Rhaegar before her death]].

** Cersei Lannister. Both born as the only girl beside two brothers, which put her on a dead end of the chain of inheritance. But while Cersei just ''feels'' she is more competent than any of her brothers, Myrcella really is smarter than both of hers, more stable than Joffrey and stronger than Tommen and would probably be a better ruler material than any of them -- [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen and their mother]].

** Bael the Bard. The parallelism between their lives are uncanny, like it was no coincidence. The former heir of Westeros was a WarriorPrince who shared Bael's taste for [[WarriorPoet songs]], Stark ladies, [[FlowersOfRomance blue winter roses]] and [[AbductionIsLove style of courtship]]. Both love affairs brought misery to House Stark and ultimately to their deaths - Lord Brandon almost died without heirs but Bael's son with his daughter is the next Lord Stark who ends up [[{{Patricide}} killing Bael himself]]; Rhaegar Targaryen just invited a civil war that killed another Brandon Stark and ultimately leads to his death - and while Lady Stark eventually gave birth to Bael's son and commits suicide after his death, Lyanna Stark died [[spoiler: but also with the strong possibility she had just given birth to Rhaegar's son before that]].

** Jon Snow. Both feel like outsiders, both are raised at Winterfell, and both experience identity issues that have left them bitter and with the desire to prove themselves. While Jon is a blood Stark in all but name and raised as part of the family, Theon is a Greyjoy hostage raised as a ward to keep his father from rebelling. While Jon Snow faces societal prejudice for being an illegitimate child who does not even know the identity of his mother, he is loved by his father, siblings, and uncle, and raised by his father alongside his siblings. In contrast, Theon -- though he is heir to the Iron Islands -- is sent away to another family as a hostage at age 10, raised away from his family, and his father treats him poorly. Jon decides to join the Night's Watch for the sake of honor and duty, has risen to Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, and [[spoiler:might possibly be the heir to the Iron Throne]]. Meanwhile, Theon becomes a traitor to win his father's love, failed at keeping Winterfell after he captured it in an effort to gain affection from aforementioned father who doesn't even like him, [[spoiler:and was later tortured into thinking he was a commoner named Reek]].

** Daenerys Targaryen. Sansa is what would have happened to Daenerys if she didn't have had the mechanisms to fight back and see for herself or weren't surrounded by prophecy. It's fair to point out that Dany greatly relied in the charity of others to survive up to the events of AGOT and the same people might be pushing these gifts for her to fulfill said prophecy; while Sansa is largely a political pawn, Dany has several people on her back trying to make her an ideological pawn. Both see themselves as dissatisfied with their offices once they come into them: Sansa was given lifelong promises of courtly, glamorous life; Dany was told all her life she is a natural-born leader; neither of them are or did get any of those things. Both are among the most beautiful women alive, but have found little advantage to it. Both have had their family removed from them. [[spoiler: In more recent events, they both are trying to shed their personae and become more pragmatic... only that Dany has dragons and hasn't used them.]]

** Daenerys Targaryen. Both are highborn girls fallen on hard times who has lost most of their families and have spent much time living in squalor in a foreign land. Their quests also involve the supernatural and the pursuit of justice. Unlike Daenerys though, Arya doesn't blindly judge people; she understands that being part of a group doesn't make someone like the rest. Daenerys orders the crucifixion of 163 slavers, not wanting to think there might be good people among them, because being a slaver makes someone evil by default. Arya chooses not to include the Freys on her list because she doesn't know the names of the ones involved.
** Varys. From great information-gathering abilities to [[spoiler: mummering]] Arya is becoming more like him every page, yet the two have never had an interaction together. In a way, this mirrors Sansa and Littlefinger's lessons, except Littlefinger is feeding Sansa with his teachings, Arya's teacher has been life.

** Jaime Lannister. Both are Lord Commanders of the white and black brotherhoods, which they joined at a young age for the sake of honour and duty as the WideEyedIdealist, and both came from highborn upbringings by their fathers. During their respective journeys, they are left disappointed when they find out that the brotherhood they joined was no longer as great as they expected and once were. Jaime is long reviled as a kingslayer when he kills the Mad King to save an entire city of innocent people from aforementioned king wanting to burn them all, while a group of the Night's Watch believe Jon to be an oathbreaker due to his sympathy for the wildlings (who Jon sees as men, women and children regardless of where they come from -- in contrast to the views of many in the Night's Watch) when he goes against tradition to do what's right and protect innocent people in his efforts to save everyone.

** Lysa Tully. Both Lysa and Sansa fell in love with the wrong kind of man except Lysa never learns and becomes Littlefinger's willing pawn [[spoiler:going so far as killing her husband Jon for his sake]].

** Jaime Lannister. Both are Lord Commanders of the white and black brotherhoods, which they joined at a very young for the sake of honour and duty as the WideEyedIdealist. During their respective journeys, they are left disappointed when they find out that the brotherhood they joined was no longer as great as they expected. Jaime is long reviled as a kingslayer when he kills the Mad King to save an entire city of innocent people from aforementioned king wanting to burn them all, while a group of the Night's Watch believe Jon to be an oathbreaker due to his sympathy for the wildlings (who Jon sees as men, women and children regardless of where they come from -- in contrast to the views of many in the Night's Watch) when he goes against tradition to protect innocent people in his efforts to save everyone.

** Jon Snow. Both are outsiders raised at Winterfell who are suffering from identity issues that have left them bitter and with the desire to prove themselves. While Jon Snow has been scorned by society all his life for being a bastard child who does not even know the identity of his mother, he is loved by his father, raised with his siblings, decides to join the Night's Watch to earn his own honor, has risen to Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, and [[spoiler:might possibly be the heir to the Iron Throne]]. Meanwhile, Theon is the heir of the Iron Islands, was sent away as a hostage at an early age, failed at keeping Winterfell after he captured it in an effort to gain affection from a father who doesn't even like him, [[spoiler:and was later tortured into thinking he was a commoner named Reek]].

** House Lannister. There are few better comparisons between TheHero and one candidate of the BigBad in BigBadEnsemble. Both are ancient and powerful Houses with good militaries. Both were once kings whom were reduced to liege lord by Targaryens. House Stark rules GrimUpNorth with fewer resources, House Lannister rules a warmer land with many more natural resources. Both are concerned with honor but the Starks' stem from doing what's right, just, or both, while the Lannisters' stem from self-interest and arrogance. Starks have an HonorBeforeReason attitude see [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility ruling as duty]], Lannisters see ruling more as [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks their right.]] Male Starks wear utilitarian gear most of the time, male Lannisters wear extravagant clothes even while [[BlingOfWar going to battle]]. Lannisters play the Game of Thrones and hone their skills to win it while Starks detest this game because of said HonorBeforeReason and definitely lose big time if trying to play it. Lannisters [[BigScrewedUpFamily are a big family but don't have the best relationships]] (with the exception of the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime). Starks are a smaller but loving family (except for Catelyn's cold treatment of Jon Snow, but Jon is loved by the rest of the family). Starks have primarily descended from the First Men while Lannisters, like other southerners, are now mostly descended from the Andals. Both used to have Valyrian Swords -- Lannisters lost theirs long ago, Starks lost theirs recently [[spoiler:thanks to the Lannisters confiscating said sword and reforging it.]] [[spoiler:Both lost many important members during the War of Five Kings.]]

** House Lannister. There is few better comparison between TheHero and one candidate of the BigBad in BigBadEnsemble. Both are ancient and powerful Houses with good military in their backs. Both once are kings whom were reduced to liege lord by Targaryens. House Stark rules GrimUpNorth with less resources, House Lannister rules warmer land with many more natural resources. Both are concerned with honor but Starks' stem from doing right/lawful/or both, Lannisters stem from their arrogance. Starks have HonorBeforeReason attitude see [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility ruling as duty]], Lannisters see ruling more as [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks their right.]] Male Starks wear utilitarian gear most of the time, male Lannisters wear extravagant clothes even while [[BlingOfWar going to battle]]. Lannisters play the Game of Thrones and hone their skills to win it while Starks detest this game because of said HonorBeforeReason and definitely lose big time if trying to play it. Lannisters [[BigScrewedUpFamily are a big family but don't have the best relationships]] (with the exception of the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime). Starks are a smaller but loving family (except for Catelyn's cold treatment of Jon Snow, but Jon is loved by the rest of the family). Starks have primarily descended from the First Men while Lannisters, like other southerners, are now mostly descended from the Andals. Both used to have Valyrian Swords -- Lannisters lost theirs long ago, Starks lost theirs recently [[spoiler:thanks to the Lannisters confiscating said sword and reforging it.]] [[spoiler:Both lost many important members during the War of Five Kings.]]