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13th Apr '17 8:28:41 PM Psi001
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**** ''Sun and Moon'' reconstructs this. While Ash is ''much'' more cartoony and hyperactive, it tends to be a by-product of the more comical setup of the series as a whole, and in terms of characteristics and flaws, he's arguably one of the more evened out series renditions of the character, maintaining most of his previous battle competence and level of insight (unlike ''Best Wishes'') without totally losing his childlike naiveté and temperament (that was near totally absent in ''XY'').
7th Apr '17 10:49:40 AM Quanyails
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* The characters of [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]] and VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} are prone to being flanderized in sequels, such as Kagetsu Tohya really playing up Kohaku's craziness or ''[[VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia Fate/hollow ataraxia]]'' doing similar things to the likes of Saber or Tohsaka. However, ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' has taken these depictions and ramped them up ''even more'' resulting in a near stalker Akiha, a {{moe}} Caster who acts like a schoolgirl and even more exaggeration of Ciel's love for curry. Arcueid and Taiga, on the other hand, act completely like normal while Ilya's sociopathy is greatly downplayed. ''Carnival Phantasm'' was made like that on purpose for comedy, though.

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* The characters of [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]] ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' are prone to being flanderized in sequels, such as Kagetsu Tohya really playing up Kohaku's craziness or ''[[VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia Fate/hollow ataraxia]]'' doing similar things to the likes of Saber or Tohsaka. However, ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' has taken these depictions and ramped them up ''even more'' resulting in a near stalker Akiha, a {{moe}} Caster who acts like a schoolgirl and even more exaggeration of Ciel's love for curry. Arcueid and Taiga, on the other hand, act completely like normal while Ilya's sociopathy is greatly downplayed. ''Carnival Phantasm'' was made like that on purpose for comedy, though.
17th Mar '17 7:54:15 PM TristanJeremiah
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* In Manga/ItsNotMyFaultImNotPopular, Yoshida was originally implied to be misjudged by [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Tomoko]], and just a normal girl with the FaceOfAThug who just happens to be into punk fashion, In one of her early appearances, Tomoko accidentally[[note:[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation The "Accidentally" Depends on who you ask.]] gropes Yoshida when trying to wake her up. [[PervertRevengeMode She responds with a slap]], [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Yoshida spends the rest of the chapter]] [[BerzerkButton angry with her]] with [[CloudcuckoolandersMinder Yuri]] acting as a consoler between the two. Post-Field trip arc, she's a delinquent, just like Tomoko originally assumed her to be, with a HairTriggerTemper and a manic obsession with cute things. She has a sort of VitrolicBestBuds relationship with Tomoko in later chapters.

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* In Manga/ItsNotMyFaultImNotPopular, Yoshida was originally implied to be misjudged by [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Tomoko]], and just a normal girl with the FaceOfAThug who just happens to be into punk fashion, In one of her early appearances, Tomoko accidentally[[note:[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation accidentally[[note]][[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation The "Accidentally" Depends on who you ask.]] ]][[/note]] gropes Yoshida when trying to wake her up. [[PervertRevengeMode She responds with a slap]], [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Yoshida spends the rest of the chapter]] [[BerzerkButton [[BerserkButton angry with her]] with [[CloudcuckoolandersMinder Yuri]] acting as a consoler between the two. Post-Field trip arc, she's a delinquent, just like Tomoko originally assumed her to be, with a HairTriggerTemper and a manic obsession with cute things. She has a sort of VitrolicBestBuds VitriolicBestBuds relationship with Tomoko in later chapters.
17th Mar '17 7:47:09 PM TristanJeremiah
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* In Manga/ItsNotMyFaultImNotPopular, Yoshida was originally implied to be misjudged by [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Tomoko]], and just a normal girl with the FaceOfAThug who just happens to be into punk fashion, In one of her early appearances, Tomoko accidentally[[note:[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation The "Accidentally" Depends on who you ask.]] gropes Yoshida when trying to wake her up. [[PervertRevengeMode She responds with a slap]], [[EstablishingCharacterMoment Yoshida spends the rest of the chapter]] [[BerzerkButton angry with her]] with [[CloudcuckoolandersMinder Yuri]] acting as a consoler between the two. Post-Field trip arc, she's a delinquent, just like Tomoko originally assumed her to be, with a HairTriggerTemper and a manic obsession with cute things. She has a sort of VitrolicBestBuds relationship with Tomoko in later chapters.
12th Feb '17 9:09:44 PM Loekman3
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** ''Super'' also messes around with Goku's personality, at times making him more like his ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' counterpart in regards to his BloodKnight tendencies. He displays a childlike fixation on fighting, challenge anyone and everyone up to the literal King of Everything, and never seems to consider whether it's appropriate or what the consequences of his actions might be. In fact, a good portion of the fandom blames him for the events of the Future Trunks Saga, since [[spoiler:his challenging Zamasu to a fight is what drove the latter to decide that all mortals were too dangerous and needed to be wiped out.]] He only once displays anything resembling the cold, focused anger he demonstrated with Freeza, and that comes when [[spoiler:Goku Black says that he killed his universe's versions of Chi-Chi and Goten after stealing Goku's body.]]

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** ''Super'' also messes around with Goku's personality, at times making him more like his ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' counterpart in regards to his BloodKnight tendencies. He displays a childlike fixation on fighting, challenge anyone and everyone up to the literal King of Everything, and never seems to consider whether it's appropriate or what the consequences of his actions might be. In fact, a good portion of the fandom blames him for the events of the Future Trunks Saga, since [[spoiler:his challenging Zamasu to a fight is what drove the latter to decide that all mortals were too dangerous and needed to be wiped out.]] out]]. He only once displays anything resembling the cold, focused anger he demonstrated with Freeza, and that comes when [[spoiler:Goku Black says that he killed his universe's versions of Chi-Chi and Goten after stealing Goku's body.]]body]].
2nd Jan '17 8:45:30 PM LinTaylor
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** ''Dragonball Super'': Goku's intelligence has been flanderized to the point he seems even less mature than the child he was at the start of Dragonball. He claps and wiggles his way towards powerful opponents, seems incapable of considering anything resembling consequence and abandons his friends and or endangers their lives for a quick fight or chance to train. Gone is the Goku who squared off in a deathly chill against Freeza. In Super he'd be more liable to clap and duckwalk at him wanting to fight.

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** ''Dragonball Super'': ''Super'' also messes around with Goku's intelligence has been flanderized personality, at times making him more like his ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' counterpart in regards to his BloodKnight tendencies. He displays a childlike fixation on fighting, challenge anyone and everyone up to the point he literal King of Everything, and never seems even less mature than to consider whether it's appropriate or what the child he was at consequences of his actions might be. In fact, a good portion of the start fandom blames him for the events of Dragonball. He claps the Future Trunks Saga, since [[spoiler:his challenging Zamasu to a fight is what drove the latter to decide that all mortals were too dangerous and wiggles his way towards powerful opponents, seems incapable of considering needed to be wiped out.]] He only once displays anything resembling consequence the cold, focused anger he demonstrated with Freeza, and abandons that comes when [[spoiler:Goku Black says that he killed his friends universe's versions of Chi-Chi and or endangers their lives for a quick fight or chance to train. Gone is the Goku who squared off in a deathly chill against Freeza. In Super he'd be more liable to clap and duckwalk at him wanting to fight.Goten after stealing Goku's body.]]
12th Oct '16 7:48:11 AM lalalei2001
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* In ''Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions'', Seto Kaiba is solely focused on seeing and dueling Atem again to prove he's the strongest duelist with no care for anything else. The manga version of him had a rivalry with Jonouchi, a realization that he had to try and move on from his losses to become a stronger person, as well as a desire to bury the past, while the anime version of him acknowledges Yugi, not Yami Yugi, as the true King of Games. Mokuba is also wholly supportive of him, despite restraining his brother's crazier habits in the manga and anime.

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* In ''Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions'', Seto Kaiba is solely focused on seeing and dueling Atem again to prove he's the strongest duelist with no care for anything else. The manga version of him had a rivalry with Jonouchi, a realization that he had to try and move on from his losses to become a stronger person, as well as a desire to bury the past, while the anime version of him acknowledges Yugi, not Yami Yugi, as the true King of Games. Mokuba is also wholly supportive of him, despite restraining his brother's crazier habits in the manga and anime.----
2nd Aug '16 12:03:47 AM Raddra
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** ''Dragonball Super'': Goku's intelligence has been flanderized to the point he seems even less mature than the child he was at the start of Dragonball. He claps and wiggles his way towards powerful opponents, seems incapable of considering anything resembling consequence and abandons his friends and or endangers their lives for a quick fight or chance to train. Gone is the Goku who squared off in a deathly chill against Freeza. In Super he'd be more liable to clap and duckwalk at him wanting to fight.
23rd Jul '16 8:46:28 PM BNSF1995
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** In the manga, Natsumi was a Tsundere JerkWithAHeartOfGold. In the anime, she's a racist JerkWithAHeartOfJerk.
** Momoka's attempts to get Fuyuki to notice her are taken UpToEleven in the anime, as she even uses ''spies'' to see what he's doing.
29th Jun '16 4:51:20 AM MajinAkuma
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' - By mid-Johto many recurring characters are little more than walking collections of running gags, with Brock having his CasanovaWannabe aspect overshadowing his wisecracking and being a BigBrotherMentor to Ash, and the Team Rocket trio's comedy overshadowing their competence.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' - By mid-Johto many recurring characters are little more than walking collections of running gags, with Brock Takeshi/Brock having his CasanovaWannabe aspect overshadowing his wisecracking and being a BigBrotherMentor to Ash, Satoshi/Ash, and the Team Rocket trio's comedy overshadowing their competence.



** Ash, the main character, is noteworthy in that he started out as an IdiotHero mainly due to his ''immaturity'' rather than him being an actual idiot. As he's matured throughout the show, but the writers [[NotAllowedToGrowUp still want to keep his idiot traits]], his IdiotHero status is due to him being honestly mentally challenged. His ObliviousToLove trait is one of the most noteworthy: compare his early release of Butterfree because he knew full well it wanted to mate with a female and make babies to a more recent encounter with a Cottonee with the same problem, whom Ash thinks just wants to "get a best buddy".

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** Ash, Satoshi/Ash, the main character, is noteworthy in that he started out as an IdiotHero mainly due to his ''immaturity'' rather than him being an actual idiot. As he's matured throughout the show, but the writers [[NotAllowedToGrowUp still want to keep his idiot traits]], his IdiotHero status is due to him being honestly mentally challenged. His ObliviousToLove trait is one of the most noteworthy: compare his early release of Butterfree because he knew full well it wanted to mate with a female and make babies to a more recent encounter with a Cottonee with the same problem, whom Ash thinks just wants to "get a best buddy". buddy".
*** His idiot traits were taken UpToEleven in ''Best Wishes'', but significantly toned down in ''XY''. The only major flaw of his character that retained from his flanderization is him being ObliviousToLove.
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