History Film / ThePostman

30th Apr '17 10:55:57 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CelebritySurvivor: [[spoiler: TomPetty.]]

to:

* CelebritySurvivor: [[spoiler: TomPetty.Music/TomPetty.]]
20th Mar '17 6:23:40 PM Theriocephalus
Is there an issue? Send a Message


-->'''Ford''': ''Who are you?''
-->'''Californian Carrier''': ''Name's Clark. Postal Carrier of the restored Republic of California. Who are you?''
-->'''Ford''': ''Postmaster Ford Lincoln Mercury.''
-->'''Californian Carrier''' (takes off his cap, shake hands): ''It's an honor, sir.''
-->'''Bethlehem''': ''Wait a minute... wait a minute! You don't know each other? This will never be over. It'll go on, except I'll be fighting a goddamn ghost.''

to:

-->'''Ford''': ''Who "Who are you?''
you?"
-->'''Californian Carrier''': ''Name's "Name's Clark. Postal Carrier of the restored Republic of California. Who are you?''
you?"
-->'''Ford''': ''Postmaster "Postmaster Ford Lincoln Mercury.''
"
-->'''Californian Carrier''' (takes off his cap, shake hands): ''It's "It's an honor, sir.''
"
-->'''Bethlehem''': ''Wait "Wait a minute... wait a minute! You don't know each other? This will never be over. It'll go on, except I'll be fighting a goddamn ghost.''"



-->'''Shakespeare''': ''I know you. You're... famous. ''
-->'''[[spoiler: [[AsHimself Tom Petty]]]]''': ''I was once... sorta. Kinda. Not anymore.''

to:

-->'''Shakespeare''': ''I "I know you. You're... famous. ''\n"
-->'''[[spoiler: [[AsHimself Tom Petty]]]]''': ''I "I was once... sorta. Kinda. Not anymore.''"
1st Mar '17 5:39:54 PM Jan_z_Michal
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* MythologyGag: The original novel ends in 2012, being the only time when the year is specified. The film opens in 2013, again being the only time the year is specified.
1st Mar '17 5:26:40 PM Jan_z_Michal
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** In a broader sense, The Postman tries to do a more realistic take on what the post-Apocalypse really would be like. It takes care to show the types of people that woujld come to power in a vacuum left behind, why laws and the ability to enforce them are generally good things, why communications are vital in maintaining civilisation and in general treats the post-Apocalypse like a place rather than a sandbox for a protagonist to be badass in.

to:

** In a broader sense, The Postman just like [[Literature/ThePostman the source material]], the movie tries to do a more realistic take on what the post-Apocalypse post-apocalypse really would be like. It takes care to show the types of people that woujld would come to power in a vacuum left behind, why laws and the ability to enforce them are generally good things, why communications are vital in maintaining civilisation and in general treats the post-Apocalypse post-apocalypse like a an actual place rather than a just some sandbox for a protagonist to be badass in.in. And the Postman himself mostly [[ActionSurvivor just survives]] with copious amounts of dumb luck.
1st Mar '17 10:21:15 AM Divra
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** In a broader sense, The Postman tries to do a more realistic take on what the post-Apocalypse really would be like. It takes care to show the types of people that woujld come to power in a vacuum left behind, why laws and the ability to enforce them are generally good things, why communications are vital in maintaining civilisation and in general treats the post-Apocalypse like a place rather than a sandbox for a protagonist to be badass in.
14th Feb '17 6:19:29 AM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheLoinsSleepTonight: Abby tells the Postman Bethlehem is impotent, thus thankfully sparing her from rape. He blamed Abby for this, and beat her over it.
3rd Feb '17 6:16:00 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ChosenConceptionPartner: Abby and her husband Michael approach the Postman with the proposal that he father a child with her, since Michael's infertile. He rejects the idea at first, but agrees after she enters his room and [[DressHitsFloor strips in front of him]]. At first she treats him as merely "the body father" upon conceiving, viewing the baby as her husband's (who has died by the time she finds out). Later they fall in love though and end up raising their daughter together.


Added DiffLines:

* TheLoinsSleepTonight: Abby tells the Postman Bethlehem is impotent, thus thankfully sparing her from rape. He blamed Abby for this, and beat her over it.
2nd Feb '17 9:10:29 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FeudalFuture: The Holnists have set up this arrangement with the towns they extort into giving them goods and conscripts, as Bethlehem explains when invoking [[DroitDeSeigneur his "right" to sleep with Abby]].

to:

* FeudalFuture: The Holnists have set up this arrangement with the towns they extort into giving them goods and conscripts, as Bethlehem explains when invoking [[DroitDeSeigneur [[DroitDuSeigneur his "right" to sleep with Abby]].


Added DiffLines:

* RaceLift: In the book, Abby was mixed race, with Asian ancestry. Here she's white.
2nd Feb '17 9:08:54 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* AdaptationalWimp: Holnists are a barely organised, but well-armed mob - ''nothing'' like ultra-survivalist AlwaysChaoticEvil original from books. Even their evilness is considerably toned down.

to:

* AdaptationalWimp: Holnists are a barely organised, highly organised and well-armed, but well-armed mob - ''nothing'' like still not nearly so effective as the ultra-survivalist AlwaysChaoticEvil original from books. books, who even had ''super soldiers'' among them. Even their evilness is has been considerably toned down.



-->'''Californian Carrier''' (takes off his cap, shake hands): ''It's an honor, Sir.''
-->'''Bethlehem''': ''Wait a minute... wait a minute! You don't know each other? This will never be over. It'll go on except I'll be fighting a goddamn ghost.''

to:

-->'''Californian Carrier''' (takes off his cap, shake hands): ''It's an honor, Sir.sir.''
-->'''Bethlehem''': ''Wait a minute... wait a minute! You don't know each other? This will never be over. It'll go on on, except I'll be fighting a goddamn ghost.''



* BadassArmy: The Holnists are basically an evil, repressive, violent, destructive mob of bandits, but they're ''extremely'' well-organized and well-equipped, especially compared to the militias of the disorganized villages they extort. While one town in particular has 'five guns and twenty rounds of ammunition for the entire town', and this is implied to be a typical situation in Oregon, the Holnists have enough AR-15s to equip their entire army and a seemingly infinite amount of 5.56 ammo, in addition to machine guns, anti-aircraft cannons and at least one battery of howitzers.

to:

* BadassArmy: The Holnists are basically an evil, repressive, violent, destructive mob group of bandits, but they're ''extremely'' well-organized and well-equipped, especially compared to the militias of the disorganized villages they extort. While one town in particular has 'five guns and twenty rounds of ammunition for the entire town', and this is implied to be a typical situation in Oregon, the Holnists have enough AR-15s to equip their entire army and a seemingly infinite amount of 5.56 ammo, in addition to machine guns, anti-aircraft cannons and at least one battery of howitzers. Their base seems to be well equipped too, enough so it's possible they manufacture new ammunition.



*** Also possibly justified since his real name isn't as well known in the US, and would be even less so fifteen years AfterTheEnd.

to:

*** Also possibly justified since his real name isn't as well known in the US, and would be even less so fifteen years AfterTheEnd.



* CanonForeigner: Ford, General Bethlehem, sheriff of Pine View... the list is quite lengthy, given [[BroadStrokes the nature of the film]].

to:

* CanonForeigner: Ford, General Bethlehem, the sheriff of Pine View... the list is quite lengthy, given [[BroadStrokes the nature of the film]].



** Also inverted: We know from early in the film that Ford has personally recruited many, if not all, of the mail couriers in Oregon. Near the end of the film, he is stood up next to another mail carrier who he's never seen before in his life. [[spoiler: The other mail carrier is from the Restored Republic of California, and this serves as TheReveal that Bethleham's army isn't advancing into Oregon, it's ''retreating'' from California.]]

to:

** Also inverted: We we know from early in the film that Ford has personally recruited many, if not all, of the mail couriers in Oregon. Near the end of the film, he is stood up next to another mail carrier who he's never seen before in his life. [[spoiler: The other mail carrier is from the Restored Republic of California, and this serves as TheReveal that Bethleham's army isn't advancing into Oregon, it's ''retreating'' from California.]]



* DroitDuSeigneur: General Bethlehem tries to pull this with one of the Pineview women and stabs the husband when he protests.
-->'''Bethlehem''': Do you know what system of government we have here, son? (''Michael shrugs'') We have what known as a feudal system, like in the Middle Ages. That's lords and vassals. That's you and me. Now those lords, they had some ideas. They believed that if a vassal got married, it was the lord's right, his right, to sleep with the bride on the wedding night.\\

to:

* DroitDuSeigneur: General Bethlehem tries to pull this with one of the Pineview women Abby, and stabs the husband when kills Michael after he protests.
protests it.
-->'''Bethlehem''': Do you know what system of government we have here, son? (''Michael shrugs'') We have what known as a feudal system, like in the Middle Ages. That's lords and vassals. That's you and me. Now those lords, they had some ideas. They believed that if a vassal got married, it was the lord's right, his right, ''right'', to sleep with the bride on the wedding night.\\



* FeudalFuture: The Holnists have set up this arrangement with the towns they extort into giving them goods and conscripts, as Bethlehem explains when invoking [[DroitDeSeigneur his "right" to sleep with Abby]].



** Shakespeare was just a random vagrant, who ends up as ''de facto'' leader of Restored Postal Service and one of the biggest players in North-Western USA. He manages to muster an army just by his sheer charisma.

to:

** Shakespeare was just a random vagrant, who ends up as ''de facto'' leader of the Restored Postal Service and one of the biggest players in North-Western the northwestern USA. He manages to muster an army just by his sheer charisma.



* HonorBeforeReason: A DefiedTrope. Shakespeare goes out of his way to impress upon his postmen that he does not want them giving their lives to protect the mail.

to:

* HonorBeforeReason: A DefiedTrope.{{Defied}}. Shakespeare goes out of his way to impress upon his postmen that he does not want them giving their lives to protect the mail.



* InformedAbility: We are told that Bethlehem utterly destroyed his last challenger in five seconds of hand-to-hand combat. Bethlehem's actual unarmed fighting skills, shown at the end of the movie, are about as good as your average second-grader's. Possibly an intentional trope, as the five-second story may have been mere propaganda all along.

to:

* InformedAbility: We are told that Bethlehem utterly destroyed his last challenger in five seconds of hand-to-hand combat. Bethlehem's actual unarmed fighting skills, shown at the end of the movie, are about as good as your average second-grader's. Possibly an intentional trope, as the five-second story may have been mere propaganda all along. Of course the man who had challenged him was quite a bit older and seems less fit, so it's not impossible.



* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep. The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of Creator/WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed simply as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].

to:

* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep. The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of Creator/WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed simply as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]]. [[spoiler: Even on his memorial unveiled near the end, they still don't reveal it.]]



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Shakespeare gives some of his food to one of Holinist conscripts who repays him by telling the officers about his escape plan and trying to capture Shakespeare when makes a break for it.

to:

* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Shakespeare gives some of his food to one of Holinist conscripts the other conscripts, who repays him by telling the officers about his escape plan and trying to capture Shakespeare when he makes a break for it.it. Somewhat forgivable since he was obviously mentally challenged, thus likely trying to do what (apparently) was the right thing (i.e. help the authorities).



* ParanoiaGambit: In a stare-down with Bethlehem, the Postman claims the U.S. Government has moved into the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome and has sent reinforcements.

to:

* ParanoiaGambit: In a stare-down with Bethlehem, the Postman claims the U.S. Government government has moved into the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome and has sent reinforcements.



* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: The Holnists, being built on a rather [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic reactionary foundation]], refuse to conscript people with African or Asian ancestry. However, a mixed-race man is then conscripted and, apart from a single racial slur from a bit character [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment is never mentioned again.]]

to:

* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: The Holnists, being built on a rather [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic reactionary foundation]], refuse to conscript people with African or Asian ancestry. However, a mixed-race man is then conscripted and, apart from a single racial slur from a bit character character, [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment this is never mentioned again.]]]] Maybe they can't really afford to be ''too'' picky with their conscription.



* RealityEnsues: The Postman survives being shot in the torso by a Holnist with an AR-15...and, without access to modern medicine, spends ''five months'' recovering from the bullet wound.

to:

* RealityEnsues: The Postman survives being shot in the torso by a Holnist with an AR-15... and, without access to modern medicine, spends ''five months'' recovering from the bullet wound.



* UnspecifiedApocalypse: There is some hints of what happened but it is never made clear exactly what happened.

to:

* UnspecifiedApocalypse: There is are some hints of what happened happened, but it is never made clear exactly what happened.



** The events which brought the world to this are varied and unexplained, with events like "the war", "the rains" and "the bad mumps".[[note]]The "bad mumps" is nothing more than having them as an adult, when they are almost lethal and often render males infertile, just like in case of Abby's husband.[[/note]]

to:

** The events which brought the world to this are varied and unexplained, with events like "the war", "the rains" and "the bad mumps".[[note]]The "bad mumps" is nothing more than having them as an adult, when they are almost lethal and often render males infertile, just like in case of with Abby's husband.husband, although she says he had them "as a boy".[[/note]]
2nd Feb '17 8:47:12 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Not to be [[TitleConfusion confused with]] ''IlPostino'' (1994), another movie named "The Postman" from the 1990s.

to:

Not to be [[TitleConfusion confused with]] ''IlPostino'' ''Film/IlPostino'' (1994), another movie named "The Postman" from the 1990s.
This list shows the last 10 events of 136. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Film.ThePostman