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8th Apr '16 12:44:03 PM AnotherGuy
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* TheAlcoholic: Well, Korrd who is DrowningMySorrows, but everyone in the film is boozing it up, from the Big Three during their camping trip to the end party.
27th Feb '16 10:24:53 AM AnotherGuy
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* RetiredBadass: ''Kirk'' is in awe of Korrd. Unfortunately, these days he's DrowningHisSorrows.
14th Feb '16 4:23:11 PM Kitch
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Klaa destroying ''Pioneer 10'' ForTheEvulz. It's never mentioned that [[ScienceFictionWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale he would've had to enter deep into the Earth system to find it]].
14th Feb '16 4:21:44 PM Kitch
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Klaa destroying ''Pioneer 10'' ForTheEvulz. It's never mentioned that [[ScienceFictionWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale he would've had to enter deep into the Earth system to find it]].
11th Jan '16 10:17:14 AM strejda
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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship with [[CriticalStaffingShortage "less than a skeleton crew"]] into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Starfleet could have simply assumed, that a hostage situation wouldn't need a fully functioning ship but as the admiral giving the assignment admits, Klingons are likely to send their men too and they consider Kirk [[TheDreaded their mortal enemy.]] and as it turns out, Klaa is going there solely so he can start a fight with a Federation ship. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit.

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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship with [[CriticalStaffingShortage "less than a skeleton crew"]] into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Starfleet could have simply assumed, that a hostage situation wouldn't need a fully functioning ship but as the admiral giving the assignment admits, Klingons are likely to send their men too and they consider Kirk [[TheDreaded their mortal enemy.]] enemy]] and as it turns out, Klaa is going there solely so he can start a fight with a Federation ship. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit.
11th Jan '16 9:59:09 AM strejda
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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship with [[CriticalStaffingShortage "less than a skeleton crew"]] into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit. Then again, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it's just a hostage negotiation]]; Starfleet is probably sending Kirk because they think it's insignificant work his half-functioning ship can more than handle.

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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship with [[CriticalStaffingShortage "less than a skeleton crew"]] into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Starfleet could have simply assumed, that a hostage situation wouldn't need a fully functioning ship but as the admiral giving the assignment admits, Klingons are likely to send their men too and they consider Kirk [[TheDreaded their mortal enemy.]] and as it turns out, Klaa is going there solely so he can start a fight with a Federation ship. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit. Then again, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it's just a hostage negotiation]]; Starfleet is probably sending Kirk because they think it's insignificant work his half-functioning ship can more than handle.
19th Dec '15 1:28:02 AM morenohijazo
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* LowClearance:
-->'''Scotty:''' I know this ship like the back of my hand. *bangs his head*
18th Dec '15 9:22:01 PM nombretomado
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* CrapsackWorld: The Planet of Galactic Peace. As is pointed out by many reviewers (including {{SFDebris}}), Nimbus III neatly scuttles Roddenbery's tenets regarding the future: the planet set aside for the mutual cooperation of three races has fallen into anarchy, the technology of the future has turned to [[UsedFuture rusted crap]], and poverty is still rampant.

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* CrapsackWorld: The Planet of Galactic Peace. As is pointed out by many reviewers (including {{SFDebris}}), WebSite/SFDebris), Nimbus III neatly scuttles Roddenbery's tenets regarding the future: the planet set aside for the mutual cooperation of three races has fallen into anarchy, the technology of the future has turned to [[UsedFuture rusted crap]], and poverty is still rampant.
16th Dec '15 10:28:47 AM StarTropes
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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit. Then again, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it's just a hostage negotiation]]; Starfleet is probably sending Kirk because they think it's insignificant work his half-functioning ship can more than handle.

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** Sending a barely functioning, untested ship with [[CriticalStaffingShortage "less than a skeleton crew"]] into a hostage situation when it doesn't even have functioning transporters. This is so the ''Enterprise''-A doesn't simply beam up the hostages and end the movie in five minutes. A {{hand wave}} was attempted by saying there were other ships around, but only Kirk had the experience. By that logic, they could have just sent a working ship to ''meet'' Kirk. Even ''Kirk'' thinks the reasoning is bullshit. Then again, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it's just a hostage negotiation]]; Starfleet is probably sending Kirk because they think it's insignificant work his half-functioning ship can more than handle.
26th Nov '15 8:49:03 AM namingway
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* DemotedToExtra: Shatner has hand waved criticisms from his co-stars in the past, dismissing it as actors' egos run amok (“[[SpearCarrier there was nothing to nick]]”), but scripting like this don't help his case much. Indeed, one section of the commentary has Shatner passive-aggressively blame his co-stars for the movie’s dodgy appearance (''"A disproportionate amount of money is spent on talent as against production..."'') Not only are the characters in the film betraying Captain Kirk, the actors in the film are sabotaging Bill Shatner. It’s worth noting that his original outline for the film had both [=McCoy=] '''and''' Spock turning against Kirk -- which would have left Kirk the only hero of the film.

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* DemotedToExtra: Shatner has hand waved criticisms from his co-stars in the past, dismissing it as actors' egos run amok (“[[SpearCarrier there was nothing to nick]]”), but scripting like this don't doesn't help his case much. Indeed, one section of the commentary has Shatner passive-aggressively blame his co-stars for the movie’s dodgy appearance (''"A disproportionate amount of money is spent on talent as against production..."'') Not only are the characters in the film betraying Captain Kirk, the actors in the film are sabotaging Bill Shatner. It’s worth noting that his original outline for the film had both [=McCoy=] '''and''' Spock turning against Kirk -- which would have left Kirk the only hero of the film.


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* TravelingAtTheSpeedOfPlot: We're told that no ship can survive the journey through the barrier, which lies at the center of the universe. Not that the laws of physics apply to ships with awesome names, like ''Enterprise'.
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