History Film / StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier

4th Dec '17 8:11:52 AM OlfinBedwere
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** The first time the film was referenced, directly or indirectly by '''any''' other canon ''Star Trek'' material didn't come until ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', and even then didn't go any further than the Kelvin timeline's Spock looking at a photograph of the crew on this film's ''Enterprise''-A bridge.

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** The first time the film was referenced, directly or indirectly by '''any''' other canon ''Star Trek'' material didn't come until ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', and even then didn't go any further than the Kelvin timeline's Spock looking at a photograph of the crew on this film's ''Enterprise''-A bridge.[[note]](which was likely only chosen because pictures from any of other other original cast films would have left casual moviegoers wondering who [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture Decker, Ilia]] or [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Saavik]] were, why [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Spock was missing]], why the crew were [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome on the bridge of a Klingon Bird-of-Prey]], or [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry why Sulu was missing]])[[/note]]
12th Nov '17 3:51:22 AM StarTropes
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[[caption-width-right:350:What does God need with this movie?]]
3rd Nov '17 3:59:24 AM StarTropes
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* CaptainsLog: {{Defied}} by the log recorder itself when it conks out.
--> "GOOD MORNING, CAPTAIN."
24th Oct '17 3:31:30 PM jimi13
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They've [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture stared at V'Ger]], [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan defeated Khan]], [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock found Spock]] and [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome saved the whales]]. But can the ''Enterprise'' crew survive their greatest challenge yet? Creator/WilliamShatner! ... [[DramaticPause In!]] ... [[DirectedByCastMember The director's seat!]]


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Now it should be noted the [[{{Misblamed}} movie's failings aren't all Shatner's fault]]. We can also thank ExecutiveMeddling for all the forced "humor" and the [[TVStrikes 1988 WGA strike]] for short-circuiting the screenwriting, and the infamous SpecialEffectFailure was due to [=ILM=] being too busy [[Film/GhostbustersII with]] [[Film/TheAbyss a]] [[Film/BackToTheFuturePartII few]] [[Film/{{Willow}} other]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade projects]] to work on the film.

Still, the basic concept ''was'' Shatner's idea (Although making Sybok Spock's brother was a Harve Bennett decision), and he knew about the studio's humor requirements before he even began work. Creator/GeneRoddenberry himself had expressed strong reservations about the pitch; he had good reason to be concerned, as he had previously written [[http://www.well.com/~sjroby/godthing.html his own story]] about the crew meeting God and hated the result. (Though it should also be noted that Roddenberry's own counteroffered idea was, as it had been since the second movie, for the ''Enterprise'' crew to go back in time and either stop or commit the JFK assassination.) But Shatner persisted with the idea of [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Kirk coming up against God and winning]]. ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and religious topics have always been uneasy bedfellows; ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' is the only series to pull it off, and Trekkies [[BrokenBase are divided]] on even that. Nevertheless, [[FanonDiscontinuity fans prefer to ignore this entry entirely]] and simply go from the fourth movie directly to the [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry sixth]]. ''Frontier'' is also the only one of the original films to have never been given a DirectorsCut; Shatner has always wanted to do it, but Paramount refuses to let him.

This movie isn't a total write-off, though: ''Star Trek V'' also features plenty of CharacterDevelopment scenes between Kirk, Spock, and [=McCoy=] (the {{book ends}} with the three camping are quite enjoyable), an absolutely ''brilliant'' backstory scene involving [=McCoy=] and his father, and has a collection of well imagined individual sequences such as ComingInHot with a shuttlecraft; general consensus is that while Shatner's storytelling abilities might be a bit on the weak side, he certainly had an eye for good setpieces.
17th Oct '17 8:16:34 PM Premonition45
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** While flying to the ''Enterprise'' from shore leave, Kirk quotes John Masefield's line "All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by.", just like in the TOS episode "The Ultimate Computer".



** It's still technically part of the canon, but the events have never been directly referenced in another canonical ''Star Trek'' work again. Rumor has it the writers are specifically told not to as a matter of course. Creator/GeneRoddenberry [[WordOfGod said he considered]] some elements of the movie apocryphal, but he apparently never told anyone which ones. Ronald D. Moore, who was working on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' at the time, has said that while the writers of the show accepted the film as canon, they considered it [[OldShame such an embarrassment]] to the franchise as a whole that they agreed among themselves that they would never reference it on the show, to the extent where the ending of the episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E19TheNthDegree}} The Nth Degree]]" was heavily rewritten simply because they didn't want it to have have anything in common with this film.

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** It's still technically part of the canon, but the events have never been directly referenced in another canonical ''Star Trek'' work again. Rumor has it the writers are specifically told not to as a matter of course. Creator/GeneRoddenberry [[WordOfGod said he considered]] some elements of the movie apocryphal, "apocryphal, at best", but he apparently never told anyone which ones. Ronald D. Moore, who was working on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' at the time, has said that while the writers of the show accepted the film as canon, they considered it [[OldShame such an embarrassment]] to the franchise as a whole that they agreed among themselves that they would never reference it on the show, to the extent where the ending of the episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E19TheNthDegree}} The Nth Degree]]" was heavily rewritten simply because they didn't want it to have have anything in common with this film.
12th Oct '17 1:22:54 PM Premonition45
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** The only real survivor, at least according to the Okudas in the Star Trek Encyclopedia, is Captain Klaa. Who was apparently bumped down for his actions and assigned as a courtroom translator in ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry''. This was due to a coincidence in that the translator was played by Todd Bryant.

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** The only real survivor, at least according to the Okudas in the Star Trek Encyclopedia, is Captain Klaa. Who Klaa, [[ReassignedToAntarctica who was apparently bumped down for his actions and assigned as a courtroom translator translator]] in ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry''. This was due to a coincidence in that the translator was played by Todd Bryant.


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* CluelessAesop: Contemplation about God's existence, or otherwise, would have been interesting if it was so overshadowed by slapstick comedy.
1st Oct '17 1:09:48 PM Capedia
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*** Considering Sybok's "brainwashing" powers, one has to consider the possibility that Admiral Bob is working with Sybok, and sending a crippled ship to deal with the Nimbus situation is all part of the plan.
20th Sep '17 7:39:13 AM Bosco13
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** Kirk's autobiography says it's an [[RecursiveCanon in-universe movie]] made on Magna Roma.
12th Sep '17 5:17:04 AM OlfinBedwere
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* ReassignedToAntarctica: The three ambassadors on Nimbus III. The reasons for are noted in the novelization.

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* ReassignedToAntarctica: The three ambassadors on Nimbus III. The reasons for are noted in the novelization.novelization -- St. John Talbot severely screwed up while trying to negotiate an Andorian hostage situation, which rapidly turned into a massacre; Korrd fell out of favor with the Klingon High Command after he advocated pursuing peace with the Federation; and Caithlin Dar couldn't get any better position than Nimbus III due to her facing discrimination for having a human grandfather.
10th Sep '17 11:06:29 AM OlfinBedwere
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** The first time the film was referenced, directly or indirectly by '''any''' other canon ''Star Trek'' material didn't come until ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', and even then didn't go any further than the Kelvin timeline's Spock looking at a photograph of the crew on this film's ''Enterprise''-A bridge.
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