History Film / StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan

9th Nov '16 12:39:33 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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* CulturedBadass[=/=]WickedCultured: Apparently even in the 23rd century there will be villains that read and quote Herman Melville.

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* CulturedBadass[=/=]WickedCultured: Apparently even in the 23rd century there will be villains that read and quote Herman Melville.Melville, though, admittedly, Khan is from the 20th century.
27th Oct '16 6:23:30 PM Premonition45
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* NoManShouldHaveThisPower: Dr. [=McCoy=] immediately realizes that not only can Genesis create life on desolate worlds, it can easily [[ApocalypseHow eradicate life on hospitable worlds]] as a weapon of mass destruction. Spock initially believes [=McCoy=]'s overreacting, [[ProperlyParanoid until they find out Khan wants Genesis for himself]]. David Marcus also pointed out the same thing even before Khan got involved.
-->'''Spock:''' I do not dispute that in the wrong hands...
-->'''[=McCoy=]:''' "In the wrong hands"? Would you mind telling whose are the ''right'' hands, my logical friend?
22nd Oct '16 4:43:41 PM Premonition45
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* GrandFinale: This movie was supposed to be this for TOS, complete with [[ItWasHisSled Spock dying]]. But because Creator/LeonardNimoy had second thoughts about completely parting ways with ''Franchise/StarTrek'', [[SequelHook a scene was shot with Spock putting his katra into McCoy's mind]] in case Nimoy wanted to return for any sequels.


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* SeriesFauxnale: This movie was supposed to be the GrandFinale for TOS and the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' franchise itself (since the spinoffs didn't exist at the time), complete with [[ItWasHisSled Spock dying]]. But because Creator/LeonardNimoy had second thoughts about completely parting ways with ''Star Trek'', [[SequelHook a scene was shot with Spock putting his katra into McCoy's mind]] in case Nimoy wanted to return for any sequels.
22nd Oct '16 3:48:18 PM slvstrChung
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No relation to the aborted ''Star Trek Phase II'' TV series, whose pilot became ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]''.

This movie is part of the "original" timeline that stretches from RealLife years 1967 to 2009, when Creator/JJAbrams did a {{reboot}} with ''Film/StarTrek2009''. For the Abrams version of this film, see ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''.

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No relation to the aborted ''Star Trek Phase II'' TV series, whose pilot became ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]''.

This movie is part
Picture]]''. Also not to be confused with ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', a (loose) remake of this film set in the "original" timeline that stretches from RealLife years 1967 to 2009, when AlternateTimeline created by Creator/JJAbrams did a {{reboot}} with ''Film/StarTrek2009''. For the Abrams version of this film, see ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''.
for his cinematic franchise.
22nd Oct '16 3:43:39 PM slvstrChung
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22nd Oct '16 3:43:38 PM slvstrChung
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This movie is part of the "original" timeline that stretches from RealLife years 1967 to 2009, when Creator/JJAbrams did a {{reboot}} with ''Film/StarTrek2009''. For the Abrams version of this film, see ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''.



* ItWasAllADream: In the 2009 reboot, all the events of the StarTrek series (except for ''Enterprise'' were erased; however ''IntoDarkness'' seems to present Khan as being even worse, despite not going through the same horrible experiences, but only being recruited to help save Earth.
9th Oct '16 11:26:13 PM SuddenFrost
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* Retcon: In ''Space Seed,'' Kirk had dropped all charges against Khan, because he considered it a "terrible waste" to sentence him, while Khan too the ''Enterprise'' because he was a great leader who wanted to "improve man," feeling that humans had stagnated; and in doing so, he ''pretended'' to kill Kirk in order to coerce the crew to follow him; meanwhile Khan ''chose'' to live on the planet because nobody from Earth would follow him any longer. In ''Wrath of Khan,'', however, Khan is "a criminal who tried to steal Kirk's ship and murder him," and was "exiled" on the planet as punishment.

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* Retcon: {{Retcon}}: In ''Space Seed,'' Kirk had dropped all charges against Khan, because he considered it a "terrible waste" to sentence him, while Khan too took control of the ''Enterprise'' because he was a great leader who wanted to "improve man," feeling that humans had stagnated; and in stagnated. In doing so, he ''pretended'' to kill Kirk in order to coerce the crew to follow him; meanwhile Khan ''chose'' to live on the planet because nobody from Earth would follow him any longer. In ''Wrath of Khan,'', however, Khan is "a criminal who tried to steal Kirk's ship and murder him," and was "exiled" on the planet as punishment.
21st Sep '16 12:17:43 AM heartofthemoon
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* CharacterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.
21st Sep '16 12:16:13 AM heartofthemoon
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* CharcterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.

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* CharcterDerailment: CharacterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.
20th Sep '16 5:29:03 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday (in ''Space Seed'' Kirk said he'd "come back in 100 years"), but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him (in ''Space Seed,'' Khan was ''not'' exiled but granted the planet by Kirk after dropping all charges, to give Khan what he wanted-- i.e. "a new life, a new world to rule.")
Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.

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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday (in ''Space Seed'' "Space Seed" Kirk said he'd "come back in 100 years"), but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him (in ''Space Seed,'' "Space Seed", Khan was ''not'' exiled but granted the planet by Kirk after dropping all charges, to give Khan what he wanted-- i.e. "a new life, a new world to rule.")
"). Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.
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