History Film / StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan

21st Sep '16 12:17:43 AM heartofthemoon
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* CharacterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.
21st Sep '16 12:16:13 AM heartofthemoon
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* CharcterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.

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* CharcterDerailment: CharacterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.
20th Sep '16 5:29:03 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday (in ''Space Seed'' Kirk said he'd "come back in 100 years"), but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him (in ''Space Seed,'' Khan was ''not'' exiled but granted the planet by Kirk after dropping all charges, to give Khan what he wanted-- i.e. "a new life, a new world to rule.")
Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.

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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday (in ''Space Seed'' "Space Seed" Kirk said he'd "come back in 100 years"), but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him (in ''Space Seed,'' "Space Seed", Khan was ''not'' exiled but granted the planet by Kirk after dropping all charges, to give Khan what he wanted-- i.e. "a new life, a new world to rule.")
"). Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.
20th Sep '16 5:25:58 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* MoralMyopia: Yeah, Khan, get really upset that Kirk hurt ''your'' crew on accident and forget that you hurt ''his'' crew ''on purpose'', right after they'd finished saving your hide. Chekov calls him on this, to no effe
* MutualDisadvantage: Going into the Mutara Nebula means that both ships will be blind as Tiberian bats and without shields; the fact that Reliant is less damaged becomes practically negligible.

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* MoralMyopia: Yeah, Khan, get really upset that Kirk hurt ''your'' crew on accident and forget that you hurt ''his'' crew ''on purpose'', right after they'd finished saving your hide. Chekov calls him on this, to no effe
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* MutualDisadvantage: Going into the Mutara Nebula means that both ships will be blind as Tiberian bats and without shields; the fact that Reliant ''Reliant'' is less damaged becomes practically negligible.



* UpgradeVsPrototypeFight: This is often overlooked: in [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Previous film,]] the ''U.S.S. Enterprise'' had just completed a massive refit using updated technology. The ship was entirely rebuilt, [[FlawedPrototype effectively making it a totally new ship.]] The ''U.S.S. Reliant'' is [[SuperiorSuccessor effectively an upgrade, using all of the same technology without the bugs of the old design.]] Even more, it has [[MoreDakka more guns, including a twin rear mounted photon torpedo, and a pair of oversized phaser cannons.]] It fits all of this in a space [[PintsizedPowerhouse less than half the size]] of the ''Enterprise''.

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* UpgradeVsPrototypeFight: This is often overlooked: in [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Previous [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture the previous film,]] the ''U.S.S. Enterprise'' had just completed a massive refit using updated technology. The ship was entirely rebuilt, [[FlawedPrototype effectively making it a totally new ship.]] The ''U.S.S. Reliant'' is [[SuperiorSuccessor effectively an upgrade, using all of the same technology without the bugs of the old design.]] Even more, it has [[MoreDakka more guns, including a twin rear mounted photon torpedo, and a pair of oversized phaser cannons.]] It fits all of this in a space [[PintsizedPowerhouse less than half the size]] of the ''Enterprise''.


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* YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo: Done preemptively when Kirk asks Khan for proof that Khan will honor their deal to trade himself and Genesis for the lives of his crew. Khan bluntly points out that he hasn't and won't give any such assurances, as Kirk has no other choice (so far as Khan knows) than to hope Khan keeps his word.
4th Sep '16 2:44:56 AM StrikingViking
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* AgelessBirthdayEpisode: At Creator/WilliamShatner's insistence, Kirk's exact age was left unstated onscreen.

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* AgelessBirthdayEpisode: At Creator/WilliamShatner's insistence, Kirk's exact age was left unstated onscreen. [In the series, he's the ripe old age of ''49,'' in a time when people live past ''137...'' meaning that Kirk has Progeria, perhaps a relapse from TheDeadlyYears.)



* AppliedPhlebotinum: The "Genesis Device" is an inexplicable gadget that defies all known science of the era, and yet achieves a ''controlled reaction'' that transforms a planet-surface, with magnitudes more energy than any ''weapon.'' Naturally, it falls right into Khan's hands-- conveniently just at the same time as Kirk.

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* AppliedPhlebotinum: The "Genesis Device" is an inexplicable gadget that defies all known science of the era, and yet achieves era-- as well as logic, achieving a ''controlled reaction'' that transforms a planet-surface, with magnitudes ''magnitudes'' more energy than any ''weapon.'' Naturally, it falls right into Khan's hands-- conveniently just at the same time as Kirk.



* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: When Khan mentions his "Beloved Wife", he is referring to Marla [=McGivers=], a historian on the old ''Enterprise''. Anyone who watched "Space Seed" would see that he was only charming her to get her to help him take over the ship. Here, however, his revenge is motivated by her death at the hands of the Ceti Alpha eels.

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* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: When Khan mentions his "Beloved Wife", he is referring to Marla [=McGivers=], a historian on the old ''Enterprise''. Anyone who watched "Space Seed" would see that he was only charming her to get her to help him take over the ship. Here, however, his revenge is motivated by her death However at the hands end of the Ceti Alpha eels.show, it's seen that they love each other nonetheless, and the movie reveals it.



* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday, but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him. Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.

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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: The rare variant from the villain's point of view. Part of the reason Khan is so pissed at Kirk is because when he was exiled Kirk promised to return and check on the colony's progress someday, someday (in ''Space Seed'' Kirk said he'd "come back in 100 years"), but never did and forgot all about him. In the novelization, Khan also believes that Kirk was promoted to Admiral ''because'' Kirk exiled him.him (in ''Space Seed,'' Khan was ''not'' exiled but granted the planet by Kirk after dropping all charges, to give Khan what he wanted-- i.e. "a new life, a new world to rule.")
Touched on in the movie by the way Khan emphasizes ''Admiral'' after being corrected by Capt. Terrell.



* ItWasAllADream: In the 2009 reboot, all the events of the StarTrek series (except for ''Enterprise'' were erased; however ''IntoDarkness'' seems to present Khan as being even worse, despite not going through the same horrible experiences, but only being recruited to help save Earth.



* MoralMyopia: Yeah, Khan, get really upset that Kirk hurt ''your'' crew on accident and forget that you hurt ''his'' crew ''on purpose'', right after they'd finished saving your hide. Chekov calls him on this, to no effect.

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* MoralMyopia: Yeah, Khan, get really upset that Kirk hurt ''your'' crew on accident and forget that you hurt ''his'' crew ''on purpose'', right after they'd finished saving your hide. Chekov calls him on this, to no effect.effe
4th Sep '16 2:12:06 AM StrikingViking
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*AppliedPhlebotinum: The "Genesis Device" is an inexplicable gadget that defies all known science of the era, and yet achieves a ''controlled reaction'' that transforms a planet-surface, with magnitudes more energy than any ''weapon.'' Naturally, it falls right into Khan's hands-- conveniently just at the same time as Kirk.


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* Retcon: In ''Space Seed,'' Kirk had dropped all charges against Khan, because he considered it a "terrible waste" to sentence him, while Khan too the ''Enterprise'' because he was a great leader who wanted to "improve man," feeling that humans had stagnated; and in doing so, he ''pretended'' to kill Kirk in order to coerce the crew to follow him; meanwhile Khan ''chose'' to live on the planet because nobody from Earth would follow him any longer. In ''Wrath of Khan,'', however, Khan is "a criminal who tried to steal Kirk's ship and murder him," and was "exiled" on the planet as punishment.
4th Sep '16 1:58:39 AM StrikingViking
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* CharcterDerailment: Khan's original character in the Star Trek episode ''Space Seed'' was a benevolent dictator who wants to "unite humanity," demonstrating the series-backplot of humans advancing as a civilization rather than a species, becoming morally rather than physically superior. In the film, he simply becomes a nifty villain to revive for a final showdown, which requires changing the characters-- as well as the philosophy of the franchise-- so extensively, that they no longer resemble their original selves.
3rd Sep '16 10:34:42 PM Kalmbach
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* NoKillLikeOverkill: Kirk vaporizes the brain slug with his phaser, when simply stepping on it probably would have worked. Then again, he's seriously pissed.
3rd Sep '16 9:51:15 PM Kalmbach
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* HotSubOnSubAction: The battle in the nebula is a spacefaring version of this, with the two ships groping around blindly until they catch a glimpse and fire off a few shots. Indeed, [[WordOfGod Nicolas Meyer]] mentions that in addition to ''HoratioHornblower'', he was also inspired by ''TheEnemyBelow''.
27th Aug '16 5:29:46 PM Kalmbach
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* ConspicuousCGI: Mainly conspicuous in that audiences in 1982 hadn't seen anything like it before. The sequence in the Project Genesis demonstration video was the very first full computer-animated scene in a film ''ever'', and it actually still looks pretty good after all these years. The computer displays of the ''Enterprise'' and ''Reliant'' were also computer generated vector graphics.
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