History Film / RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves

25th Aug '17 6:22:52 PM LadyNorbert
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A 1991 movie based on the Myth/RobinHood legends, starring Creator/KevinCostner in the title role. The story is familiar; Robin, a Crusader, escapes Jerusalem alongside a Muslim named Azeem (Creator/MorganFreeman), and they return to [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} England]]. They discover that Robin's father (Creator/BrianBlessed) has been killed by the Sheriff of Nottingham (Creator/AlanRickman), who is also now apparently a [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade devil worshipper]]. They become outlaws, and steal from the rich and give to the poor. Men are made merry, [[{{Swashbuckler}} bucklers are swashed]] and they all live HappilyEverAfter. (Except the Sheriff, obviously.)

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A 1991 movie based on the Myth/RobinHood legends, starring Creator/KevinCostner in the title role. The story is familiar; Robin, a Crusader, escapes Jerusalem alongside a Muslim named Azeem (Creator/MorganFreeman), and they return to [[UsefulNotes/{{Britain}} England]]. They discover that Robin's father (Creator/BrianBlessed) has been killed by the Sheriff of Nottingham (Creator/AlanRickman), who is also now apparently a [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade devil worshipper]]. They become outlaws, and steal from the rich and give to the poor. Men are made merry, [[{{Swashbuckler}} bucklers are swashed]] swashed]], and they all live HappilyEverAfter. (Except the Sheriff, obviously.)



** They also seemed to forget that Richard only spent about six months of his entire reign in England. He also forgave John and instead focused on regaining territory in UsefulNotes/{{France}}, though this last bit is absent from pretty much ''every single version'' of the Robin Hood legend (also that John legitimately became king after he died).

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** They The filmmakers also seemed to forget apparently forgot that Richard only spent about six months of his entire reign in England. He also forgave John and instead focused on regaining territory in UsefulNotes/{{France}}, though this last bit is absent from pretty much ''every single version'' of the Robin Hood legend (also (along with the fact that John legitimately became king after he died).



** Not to mention that Richard was only 42 when he died, much younger than [[spoiler: Creator/SeanConnery]] was the time of filming.

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** Not to mention that Richard was only 42 when he died, much younger than [[spoiler: Creator/SeanConnery]] was at the time of filming.



** The bounty the Sheriff puts on Robin's head is in thousands of gold coins. Since the 100,000 gold coin ransom paid to rescue Richard the Lionheart on his way back from the Third Crusade was roughly equal to ''the entire GDP of England'', that would put Robin's bounty at far more than the Sheriff could plausibly afford.
** Nobody brings up the fact that Richard had one legitimate brother and a nephew living at the time of the Third Crusade, so Nottingham's plot to get a claim on the throne by becoming a distant relative of the king by marriage wouldn't have gotten him very high in the line of succession.

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** The bounty the Sheriff puts on Robin's head is in thousands of gold coins. Since the 100,000 gold coin ransom paid to rescue Richard the Lionheart on his way back from the Third Crusade was roughly equal to ''the entire GDP of England'', that would put Robin's bounty at far more than the Sheriff could plausibly afford.
afford. (This one is arguably justified, in that the Sheriff probably had no intention of actually ''paying'' the bounty.)
** Nobody brings up the fact that Richard had one legitimate brother and a nephew living at the time of the Third Crusade, so Nottingham's plot to get a claim on the throne by becoming a distant relative of the king by through marriage wouldn't have gotten him very high in the line of succession.



* AttentionDeficitOohShiny: In the middle of the Celts' raid on the Merry Men's camp, Robin starts dumping chestfuls of gold coins on the bloodthirsty marauders. And they stop right in their tracks to pick up said booty, every last one of them, seeming to completely forget about the raging battle surrounding them that they initiated. Of course, they are ''explicitly'' referred to as [[HiredGuns "hired thugs"]].
** When he is StormingTheCastle, Robin pauses to do a DoubleTake at the Sheriff's statue, which previously was defaced to include the scar Robin gave him. Though as noted below it's almost more of a ChekhovsGun.

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* AttentionDeficitOohShiny: In the middle of the Celts' raid on the Merry Men's camp, Robin starts dumping chestfuls of gold coins on the bloodthirsty marauders. And they They stop right in their tracks to pick up said booty, every last one of them, seeming to completely forget about the raging battle surrounding them that they initiated. Of course, they are ''explicitly'' referred to as [[HiredGuns "hired thugs"]].
** When he is StormingTheCastle, Robin pauses to do a DoubleTake at the Sheriff's statue, which previously was defaced to include the scar Robin gave him. Though as As noted below below, it's almost more of a ChekhovsGun.



** Azeem counts as a rare positive Muslim example in Western media. He not only talks about his love for God all the time and is devout enough to observe the tenants of his religion, he believes in fighting for justice and has an egalitarian view of race and ethnicity.

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** Azeem counts as a rare positive Muslim example in Western media. He not only talks about his love for God all the time and is devout enough to observe the tenants tenets of his religion, he believes in fighting for justice and has an egalitarian view of race and ethnicity.



* BigBrotherInstinct: Marian's brother Peter's last words were to beg Robin to look after her.



** In his defense, it more seemed to be Mortianna involved in those things; she raised him, so she naturally had an influence on his belief system. The Sheriff goes to her for advice and (somewhat reluctantly) goes along with certain things, but there's little to show he actively practices any of it himself.

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** In his defense, it more seemed seems to be Mortianna involved in those things; she raised him, so she naturally had an influence on his belief system. The Sheriff goes to her for advice and (somewhat reluctantly) goes along with certain things, but there's little to show he actively practices any of it himself.



** Similarly, the statue that the Sheriff had made of himself, which gets used as a battering ram in the climax. Also counts as a ChekhovsGag as various characters pause to look at the scar that someone added to the statue after Robin and the Sheriff's first fight.

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** Similarly, the statue that the Sheriff had made of himself, which gets used as a battering ram in the climax. Also counts as a ChekhovsGag ChekhovsGag, as various characters pause to look at the scar that someone added to the statue after Robin and the Sheriff's first fight.



** Another simple, almost literal example is in the scene when the first refugees come to Sherwood Forest. [[spoiler:The arrow Robin uses to fend off Will Scarlett's attack is noticeably separate from the others in his quiver the entire scene.]]
** In the same scene, Robin promises to any who would seek the Sherriff's mercy that "he will stretch your necks, one by one." [[spoiler:This is precisely the fate Robin must save many of his men from during the climax.]]

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** Another simple, almost literal example is in the scene when the first refugees come to Sherwood Forest. [[spoiler:The arrow Robin uses to fend off Will Scarlett's Scarlet's attack is noticeably separate from the others in his quiver the entire scene.]]
** In the same scene, Robin promises to any who would seek the Sherriff's Sheriff's mercy that "he will stretch your necks, one by one." [[spoiler:This is precisely the fate from which Robin must save many of his men from during the climax.]]



-->'''Robin''': [[BadassBoast If I must, I'll take you a piece at a time.]]
* CompositeCharacter: The Sheriff has a similar personality and appearance to the Sheriff from ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'', but adds the black magic activities of the TV series's other villain Baron de Belleme.

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-->'''Robin''': [[BadassBoast If I must, I'll I will take you a piece at a time.]]
* CompositeCharacter: The Sheriff has a similar personality and appearance to the Sheriff from ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'', but adds the black magic activities of the TV series's show's other villain villain, Baron de Belleme.



* DragonTheirFeet: [[spoiler: Mortiana tries to kill Robin after The Sheriff dies, but is killed by Azeem.]]

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* DragonTheirFeet: [[spoiler: Mortiana Mortianna tries to kill Robin after The the Sheriff dies, but is killed by Azeem.]]



* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were married though (at that point he probably thinks it's just [[MaritalRapeLicense his right]]).

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed seems to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were they're married though (at (though at that point he probably thinks it's just [[MaritalRapeLicense his right]]).



** While the Sheriff is in the middle of trying to rape Marian, Mortiana puts a pillow under her head.
* EvilIsPetty: "Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings...and call off Christmas!"

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** While the Sheriff is in the middle of trying to rape Marian, Mortiana puts Mortianna gives him a pillow to put under her head.
* EvilIsPetty: "Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas!"



** TheDragon: Mortianna who raised The Sheriff.

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** {{The Brute}}s: Guy of Gisborne and the Celtic Chief, {{Mook Lieutenant}}s in charge of the Sheriff's guards and the Celts respectively.
** DarkChick: The Bishop of Hereford.
** TheDragon: Mortianna Mortianna, who raised The Sheriff.



** {{The Brute}}s: Guy of Gisborne and the Celtic Chief. {{Mook Lieutenant}}s in charge of the Sheriff's guards and the Celts respectively.
** DarkChick: The Bishop of Hereford.



* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mortiana is on the receiving end of this from [[spoiler: Azeem, who's using the same spear she tried to kill him with seconds before]].

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* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Mortiana Mortianna is on the receiving end of this from [[spoiler: Azeem, who's using the same spear she tried to kill him with seconds before]].



* OhCrap: Duncan's reaction to learning, belatedly, that Azeem is a Moor. A more serious one is after the Merry Men defend their forest home from hired thugs. Robin looks out towards the Nottingham soldiers in the distance, with flaming arrows and trebuchets, and says "My God" in sheer terror. Also when Mortiana and Azeem see each other for the first time, each having heard all the horror stories about the other.
-->'''Mortiana''': The painted man!

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* OhCrap: Duncan's reaction to learning, belatedly, that Azeem is a Moor. A more serious one is after the Merry Men defend their forest home from hired thugs. Robin looks out towards the Nottingham soldiers in the distance, with flaming arrows and trebuchets, and says "My God" in sheer terror. Also when Mortiana Mortianna and Azeem see each other for the first time, each having heard all the horror stories about the other.
-->'''Mortiana''': -->'''Mortianna''': The painted man!



* ReCut: The extended version adds in 12 minutes of new footage, including an entire subplot with the Sheriff and Mortianna. [[spoiler: She's his biological mother and uses him as a pawn in her EvilPlan to get Nottingham on the throne in King Richard's absence.]]

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* ReCut: The extended version adds in 12 minutes of new footage, including an entire subplot with the Sheriff and Mortianna. [[spoiler: She's his biological mother and uses using him as a pawn in her EvilPlan to get Nottingham on the throne in King Richard's absence.]]



* RenaissanceMan: The Sheriff's scribe serves as his bookkeeper, surgeon, advisor, assistant, also informs him of the public's opinion on Robin.

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* RenaissanceMan: The Sheriff's scribe serves as his bookkeeper, surgeon, advisor, assistant, and also informs him of informant about the public's opinion on Robin.



-->'''Azeem''': ENGLISH! ENGLISH! Behold, Azeem Ibn Bashir Al-Bakir! I am not one of you, but I ''fight!'' I fight with Robin Hood! I fight against a tyrant who holds you under his boot! If you would be free men, then you must fight...join us now! Join Robin Hood!

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-->'''Azeem''': ENGLISH! ENGLISH! Behold, Azeem Ibn Bashir Al-Bakir! I am not one of you, but I ''fight!'' I fight with Robin Hood! I fight against a the tyrant who holds you under his boot! If you would be free men, then you must fight...fight... join us now! Join Robin Hood!



* WeddingDeadline: The Sheriff actually gets married to Marian before Robin can stop it, but he dies pretty shortly thereafter. Happens again when King Richard interrupts Robin's and Marian's wedding.

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* WeddingDeadline: The Sheriff actually gets married to Marian before Robin can stop it, but he dies pretty shortly thereafter.thereafter, leaving her WidowedAtTheWedding. Happens again when King Richard interrupts Robin's and Marian's wedding.
7th Aug '17 8:59:55 AM Thorion
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** Nobody brings up the fact that Richard had three brothers and a nephew living at the time of the Third Crusade, so Nottingham's plot to get a claim on the throne by becoming a distant relative of the king by marriage wouldn't have gotten him very high in the line of succession.

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** Nobody brings up the fact that Richard had three brothers one legitimate brother and a nephew living at the time of the Third Crusade, so Nottingham's plot to get a claim on the throne by becoming a distant relative of the king by marriage wouldn't have gotten him very high in the line of succession.
11th Jun '17 7:53:28 PM papyru30
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* RenaissanceMan: The Sheriff's scribe serves as his bookkeeper, surgeon, advisor, assistant, also informs him of the public's opinion on Robin.
19th May '17 1:05:47 PM MrDeath
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* BlackDudeDiesFirst: [[spoiler: Happily averted; Azeem is still standing by the time credits roll]].
9th May '17 6:38:54 PM Fireblood
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* MisBlamed: A meta-example; the film is rather notorious for the fact that most of the cast, and Kevin Costner in particular, lack a British accent. What we consider a British accent today is a fairly recent innovation, and having characters speak with said accent doesn't make them any more or any less accurate to the time period. If accuracy were that important, the characters really should be speaking either Old or Middle English (the film takes place during the period of transition between the two), which would be largely incomprehensible to a speaker of Modern English. Furthermore, as part of the Anglo-Norman aristocracy, Robin may not have spoken English: Norman French was the language of the English nobility of the time, and in fact Richard himself didn't speak English at all.
9th May '17 6:24:52 PM Fireblood
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* FunnyBackgroundEvent: When Sheriff invites the Celtic chieftain to the council with his allies, one of them questions his abilities. The chieftain takes a burning log out of the fireplace and calmly presses it against his own palm. Others are impressed and the council continues, while, in the background, the chieftain is visibly stifling a scream, even biting his hand.
* GiveAwayTheBride: King Richard requests that he would do this when he interrupts the wedding of Robin and Marian just before Friar Tuck declares them to be husband and wife. None object.

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* FunnyBackgroundEvent: When the Sheriff invites the Celtic chieftain to the council with his allies, one of them questions his abilities. The chieftain takes a burning log out of the fireplace and calmly presses it against his own palm. Others are impressed and the council continues, while, in the background, the chieftain is visibly stifling a scream, even biting his hand.
* GiveAwayTheBride: King Richard requests that he would do this when he interrupts the wedding of Robin and Marian just before Friar Tuck declares them to be husband and wife. None object.
9th May '17 6:14:09 PM Fireblood
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were married though (at that point he thinks it's probably just [[MaritalRapeLicense his right]]).

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were married though (at that point he probably thinks it's probably just [[MaritalRapeLicense his right]]).
9th May '17 6:13:26 PM Fireblood
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were married though.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: After all the horrible things he's done, the Sheriff is outraged at the notion of forcing himself on Marian before they are properly married. He seemed to have no problem with forcing her ''after'' they were married though.though (at that point he thinks it's probably just [[MaritalRapeLicense his right]]).
9th May '17 6:10:31 PM Fireblood
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*** However, in the extended cut of the film, there is a scene where Mortianna advises him to, "Recruit the beasts that share our god." It should also be noted that said Christian priest is a willing stooge of the Sheriff, albeit more out of cowardice than conviction. Make of it what you will.

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*** However, in the extended cut of the film, there is a scene where Mortianna advises him to, to "Recruit the beasts that share our god." It should also be noted that said Christian priest is a willing stooge of the Sheriff, albeit more out of cowardice than conviction. Make of it what you will.
9th May '17 5:57:34 PM Fireblood
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* AffablyEvil: The Bishop acts with the manners of an actual priest at all times such as when he's lying to Robin or trying to convince Marian to marry The Sheriff.

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* AffablyEvil: The Bishop acts with the manners of an actual a good priest at all times times, such as when he's lying to Robin Robin, or trying to convince Marian to marry The Sheriff.



* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: The Sheriff blackmails Marian in to marrying him by threatening the lives of the children he captured in the raid on the Merry Men's camp.

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* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: The Sheriff blackmails Marian in to into marrying him by threatening the lives of the children he captured in the raid on the Merry Men's camp.



** The Sheriff's men also use flaming arrows (and flaming catapults) when trying to kill the outlaws in the ''forest''. Robin and and the other Merry Men are appropriately horrified.

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** The Sheriff's men also use flaming arrows (and flaming catapults) when trying to kill the outlaws in the ''forest''. Robin and and the other Merry Men are appropriately horrified.



** They also seemed to forget that Richard only spent about six months of his entire reign in England. He also forgave John and instead focused on regaining territory in UsefulNotes/{{France}}. Though this last bit is absent from pretty much ''every single version'' of the Robin Hood legend.

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** They also seemed to forget that Richard only spent about six months of his entire reign in England. He also forgave John and instead focused on regaining territory in UsefulNotes/{{France}}. Though UsefulNotes/{{France}}, though this last bit is absent from pretty much ''every single version'' of the Robin Hood legend.legend (also that John legitimately became king after he died).



** Barbarian Celts, more befitting Roman times, during the era of the Crusades.

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** Barbarian Celts, more befitting Roman times, during the era of the Crusades. They are also referred to as pagans, though all of the Celts were Christian by this era.



* AttemptedRape: As soon as the bishop declares them man and wife, the Sheriff proceeds to force himself on Marian.

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* AttemptedRape: As soon as the bishop declares them man and wife, the Sheriff proceeds to force himself on Marian. Of course, this wouldn't be [[MaritalRapeLicense considered rape]] back then, although still unkind.
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