History Film / RedTails

10th Apr '17 9:40:05 AM AFP
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*** The third tactic, which was to use the Mustang's superior endurance to stooge around until you could catch an Me262 taking off or landing, was not shown as it would make for a really boring movie.

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*** The third tactic, which was to use the Mustang's superior endurance to stooge around near a German airfield until you could catch an Me262 [[SittingDucks taking off or landing, landing]], was not shown as it would make for a really boring movie.movie, although it did necessitate a German counter-strategy of having propeller-driven fighters patrolling over the base during the jets' takeoff and landing to try and chase away or knock down any Allied planes hoping for an easy kill.
19th Mar '17 11:40:54 AM nombretomado
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** We get a shot of the American fighters taking off in the distance, [[ANewHope as a pair of onlookers watch from a tower.]]

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** We get a shot of the American fighters taking off in the distance, [[ANewHope [[Film/ANewHope as a pair of onlookers watch from a tower.]]
24th Jan '17 3:02:12 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BatmanGambit: Pretty Boy's squadron uses decoy planes to draw American fighters off so they can pick off the bombers easily. This works on the all-white escort group in the opening sequence, who were trained to go for as many kills as they can, but it fails to entice the [[GenreSavvy Red Tails]], who know they'll never fly escort duty again if they don't stay on-mission and get the bombers home safely.

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* BatmanGambit: Pretty Boy's squadron uses decoy planes to draw American fighters off so they can pick off the bombers easily. This works on the all-white escort group in the opening sequence, who were trained to go for as many kills as they can, but it fails to entice the [[GenreSavvy Red Tails]], Tails, who know they'll never fly escort duty again if they don't stay on-mission and get the bombers home safely.
28th Dec '16 7:34:30 PM Solicitr
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Two Tuskegee airmen really did sink a German-crewed Italian destroyer[[note]]When the Italians overthrew Mussolini and surrendered in 1943, many Italian warships were seized by the Germans and manned with ''Kriegsmarine'' crews[[/note]], however, the scene depicting this action has a '''TREMENDOUS''' problem: the ship that the studio chose to include as the "destroyer" isn't a destroyer, it's a ''Vittorio Veneto''-class battleship. Two [=P-51s=] making strafing runs could very well be catastrophic for a destroyer (as it was for the real destroyer they sunk), but would be mildly annoying at best for the battleship.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Two Tuskegee airmen really did sink a German-crewed Italian destroyer[[note]]When torpedo boat[[note]]When the Italians overthrew Mussolini and surrendered in 1943, many Italian warships were seized by the Germans and manned with ''Kriegsmarine'' crews[[/note]], however, the scene depicting this action has a '''TREMENDOUS''' problem: the ship that the studio chose to include as the "destroyer" isn't a destroyer, it's a ''Vittorio Veneto''-class battleship. Two [=P-51s=] making strafing runs could very well be catastrophic for a destroyer torpedo boat (as it was for the real destroyer torpedo boat they sunk), but would be mildly annoying at best for the battleship.
28th Dec '16 7:27:27 PM Solicitr
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* HollywoodHistory: The movie perpetuates the myth that the 332nd "never lost a bomber;" in fact, just during its time with the 15th Air Force 27 bombers were lost on missions escorted by the Red Tails. This was better than average for US fighter groups, but it certainly wasn't "none."
11th Dec '16 7:13:36 AM YT45
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Two Tuskegee airmen really did sink a German-crewed Italian destroyer[[note]]When the Italians overthrew Mussolini and surrendered in 1943, many Italian warships were seized by the Germans and manned with ''Kriegsmarine'' crews[[/note]], however, the scene depicting this action has a '''TREMENDOUS''' problem: the ship that the studio chose to include as the "destroyer" isn't a destroyer, it's a ''Vittorio Veneto''-class battleship. Two [=P-51s=] making strafing runs could very well be catastrophic for a destroyer (as it was for the real destroyer they sunk), but would be mildly annoying at best for the battleship.
23rd Aug '16 6:44:03 PM nombretomado
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** We see the tail of a Mustang fighter slicing through the clouds before the rest of the plane rises into view, much in the style of ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
*** Or ''{{Airplane}}'', which was making fun of ''Jaws'' with that shot anyways.

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** We see the tail of a Mustang fighter slicing through the clouds before the rest of the plane rises into view, much in the style of ''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
*** Or ''{{Airplane}}'',
''Film/{{Airplane}}'', which in itself was making fun of ''Jaws'' with that shot anyways.''Film/{{Jaws}}''.
10th Jun '16 4:28:32 PM Ambaryerno
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** Ironically averted one of the times it ''should'' have happened: [[spoiler: when Lightning is killed by Pretty Boy, he's taking 30mm autocannon shells right in his cockpit. These were shells the size of milk bottles loaded with high-explosives. Lightning's plane would have been ''blown apart'' by a direct hit.]]
10th Apr '16 12:09:45 PM StarSword
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** A bomber officer warns the fighter pilots about the new jet fighters the Germans are beginning to field late in the movie.

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** A bomber officer warns the fighter pilots about the new jet fighters the Germans are beginning to field late in the movie. Pretty Boy turns up leading a squadron of Me-262s during the final dogfight sequence.



** The real Me-262 carried four 30mm Mk-108 cannons. [[spoiler:Lightning's death getting riddled with small-caliber bullets]] would realistically have looked more like a gigantic fireball caused by the hail of 330-gram explosive-incendiary bullets blowing his engine to bits.

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** The real Me-262 carried four 30mm Mk-108 cannons. [[spoiler:Lightning's death getting riddled with small-caliber bullets]] would realistically have looked more like a gigantic fireball caused by the hail of 330-gram explosive-incendiary bullets blowing his engine to bits. See RuleOfDrama: the imagery of him bleeding out in his cockpit as he spirals to a crash has more impact.



* NobodyEverComplainedBefore: Evidently, it never occurred to at least one member of the white bomber crews that black people took offense to the expression "Colored People."

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* NobodyEverComplainedBefore: Evidently, it never occurred to at least one member of the white bomber crews that black people took offense to the expression "Colored People."" The Airmen tell them to just say "black".



** Some of the tactics used are accurate, including attacking a train head-on to minimize the danger of being hit by the AntiAir defenses on the train, and going into a power dive from high altitude to engage the German jet fighters (the P-51 Mustang was slower than the Me-262 in level flight, but could handily outdive it).

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** Some of the tactics used are accurate, including attacking a train head-on to minimize the danger of being hit by the AntiAir defenses on the train, and going into a power dive from high altitude to engage the German jet fighters (the P-51 Mustang was slower than the Me-262 in level flight, but could handily outdive it). Also the attack from the side against the Me-262, spraying lead ahead of the jet and letting the guy fly into it.
21st Aug '15 3:35:54 PM DanielBenner8891
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* TheAlcoholic: Easy relies on drink to get himself through the war. His friend Lightning tries to get him to stop. [[spoiler: He doesn't.]]

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* TheAlcoholic: Easy relies on drink to get himself through the war. His friend Lightning tries to get him to stop. [[spoiler: He doesn't.doesn't until the end of the movie.]]
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