History Film / RagingBull

1st Feb '16 9:57:10 PM JulianLapostat
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* ArtisticLicense: The boxing sequences are very stylized. Each sequence is shot differently from the last and since the camera was in the ring with the actors, this meant it was much bigger than an actual boxing ring. The sequences used a lot of distortion effects to provide a psychological sense of "being in the ring". Scorsese said that he was bored with the conventional approach of shooting boxing from outside the ring as seen in newsreel and sports broadcasts which is why he went in the opposite direction.



* LonelyAtTheTop



* RedemptionQuest

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* RedemptionQuestRedemptionQuest: [[spoiler:The very end of the film implies that Jake having learnt and accepted that he was a jerk decides to become a better person]].
1st Feb '16 9:49:38 PM JulianLapostat
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A sequel was long in DevelopmentHell (with [=LaMotta's=] involvement), but eventually under the threat of a lawsuit from MGM, the title was changed from ''Raging Bull II'' to ''The Bronx Bull'' in order to disassociate itself from the original. The film stars William Forsythe as the older Jake [=LaMotta=], Morjean Aria as a young [=LaMotta=], and has a supporting cast including the likes of Joe Mantegna, Tom Sizemore, Penelope Ann Miller, Natasha Henstridge, Alicia Witt, Ray Wise, and James Russo. The film has been completed, but currently remains on TheShelfOfMovieLangushment.

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A sequel was long in DevelopmentHell (with [=LaMotta's=] involvement), but eventually under the threat of a lawsuit from MGM, the title was changed from ''Raging Bull II'' to ''The Bronx Bull'' in order to disassociate itself from the original. The film stars William Forsythe as the older Jake [=LaMotta=], Morjean Aria as a young [=LaMotta=], and has a supporting cast including the likes of Joe Mantegna, Tom Sizemore, Penelope Ann Miller, Natasha Henstridge, Alicia Witt, Ray Wise, and James Russo. The film has been completed, but currently remains on TheShelfOfMovieLangushment.
TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment.
1st Feb '16 9:49:08 PM JulianLapostat
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* HeerlRealization: It takes several decades, and some prison time, [[spoiler:a lot of wall punching before Jake confronts that he's been a jerk. It is this quality that makes him among the most sympathetic Scorsese anti-heros]].
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Jake [=LaMotta=], as unbelievable as that may sound. When he watched the film with one of his ex-wives he asked her: "was I really that bad?" She replied "you were worse!" The movie actually omits [=LaMotta=]'s worse excesses. In his autobiography, he admits to raping a woman and hitting a man with a lead pipe whilst mugging him. [=LaMotta=] believed he had killed the man, only to discover years later that his victim survived.
** It's important to note that the "autobiography" was mostly written by Peter Savage, Jake's friend (and a model for Joey, a composite of Jake's brother, Savage and one other friend) and it was written largely to gain a movie deal and was filled with deliberately sensationalist, over-the-top material.

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* HeerlRealization: HeelRealization: It takes several decades, and some prison time, [[spoiler:a lot of wall punching before Jake confronts that he's been a jerk. It is this quality that makes him among the most sympathetic Scorsese anti-heros]].
* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Jake [=LaMotta=], as unbelievable as Averted in general but Creator/PaulSchrader who wrote the screenplay felt that may sound. the very act of making this film gives [=LaMotta=] this, noting that the film implies that he was a more significant figure in boxing and sports than his career otherwise supports. He feels that the film ultimately elevated a mediocrity to a level of fame he otherwise wouldn't deserve.
* HistoricalVillainDowngrade:
When he watched the film with one of his ex-wives ex-wives, Jake [=LaMotta=] he asked her: "was I really that bad?" She replied "you were worse!" The movie actually supposedly omits [=LaMotta=]'s worse worst excesses. In his autobiography, ghost-written by Peter Savage, he admits to raping a woman and hitting a man with a lead pipe whilst mugging him. [=LaMotta=] believed he had killed the man, only to discover years later that his victim survived.
** It's important to note that
survived. In any case, the source for this, the "autobiography" was mostly written by Peter Savage, Jake's friend (and a model for Joey, a composite of Jake's brother, Savage and one other friend) and it was written largely to gain a movie deal and was filled with deliberately sensationalist, over-the-top material.
1st Feb '16 9:44:02 PM JulianLapostat
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* {{Deconstruction}}:
** Of the conventional Hollywood {{Biopic}} (by showing the character WartsAndAll, avoiding HistoricalHeroUpgrade and refusing to sanitize the ugliness) and the sports movie genre (no, "success" in the Boxing Ring doesn't solve your personal problems or win you the love of your life) and the concept of redemption (it can sometimes take years for people to [[HeelRealization accept that they've done]] something wrong and even then they can't count on other people accepting that they have changed).
** More specifically, the movie shows the physical and psychological toll a career in sports involve, especially one like Boxing. All those punches on different parts of your body [[RealityEnsues will take a toll on you]], the effort it takes to maintain physique is such that on retirement, Jake [[FormerlyFit really lets himself go]]. Likewise, on retirement, [[AndThenWhat boxers have to rest on their winnings]] and income or find another means of income because the sporting career only last till you approach 40.
** It also shows that as much skill as boxing involves, sportsmen are nothing without the managers, coaches and institution that will get them their big goal, advice them on how to protect their money and generally prevent them from making fools of themselves. Jake [=LaMotta=] learns far too late about this by which point he has alienated all his friends and family.


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* HeerlRealization: It takes several decades, and some prison time, [[spoiler:a lot of wall punching before Jake confronts that he's been a jerk. It is this quality that makes him among the most sympathetic Scorsese anti-heros]].
26th Dec '15 5:24:56 PM nombretomado
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* AmericanDream: It's [[{{Applicability}} possible to read the film]] as a critical examination or even [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of this. Jake achieves the American Dream, he becomes a success, becomes rich, has a beautiful wife and kids and retires to a suburban home and gets out of the ghetto and yet, he still hasn't changed one bit.
14th Oct '15 11:15:19 AM erforce
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While critical reception was mixed at the time of its release, [[AwardSnub and it was passed up for Best Picture and Best Director at the Oscars in favor of]] ''Literature/OrdinaryPeople'' ''Raging Bull'' has since become a critical favorite, and is viewed as one of the best movies of all time. It won De Niro his second Oscar, this time for Best Actor, following his Best Supporting Actor win for ''TheGodfatherPartII'', and is frequently cited as one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema.

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While critical reception was mixed at the time of its release, [[AwardSnub and it was passed up for Best Picture and Best Director at the Oscars in favor of]] ''Literature/OrdinaryPeople'' ''Raging Bull'' has since become a critical favorite, and is viewed as one of the best movies of all time. It won De Niro his second Oscar, this time for Best Actor, following his Best Supporting Actor win for ''TheGodfatherPartII'', ''Film/TheGodfatherPartII'', and is frequently cited as one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema.
1st Aug '15 12:22:51 PM erforce
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** A very big switch from [[{{Goodfellas}} later]] [[{{Casino}} films]].

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** A very big switch from [[{{Goodfellas}} [[Film/{{Goodfellas}} later]] [[{{Casino}} [[Film/{{Casino}} films]].
23rd Jul '15 9:32:15 PM JB0187
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** It's important to note that the "autobiography" was mostly written by Peter Savage, Jake's friend(and a model for Joey, a composite of Jake's brother, Savage and one other friend) and it was written largely to gain a movie deal and was filled with deliberately sensationalist, over-the-top material.

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** It's important to note that the "autobiography" was mostly written by Peter Savage, Jake's friend(and friend (and a model for Joey, a composite of Jake's brother, Savage and one other friend) and it was written largely to gain a movie deal and was filled with deliberately sensationalist, over-the-top material.
23rd Jul '15 9:26:54 PM JB0187
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* BitterSweetEnding: Jake at the end is shown to have a promising stand-up comedian career, but in the end he's completely ostracized from his wife, kids, and brother, and he pawned off the title he worked so hard to get in order to bail himself out of prison.

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* BitterSweetEnding: {{Bittersweet Ending}}: Jake at the end is shown to have a promising stand-up comedian career, but in the end he's completely ostracized from his wife, kids, and brother, and he pawned off the title he worked so hard to get in order to bail himself out of prison.
10th Jul '15 9:13:05 AM KevinKlawitter
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A sequel was long in DevelopmentHell (with [=LaMotta's=] involvement), but eventually under the threat of a lawsuit from MGM, the title was changed from ''Raging Bull II'' to ''The Bronx Bull'' in order to disassociate itself from the original. The film stars William Forsythe as the older Jake [=LaMotta=], Morjean Aria as a young [=LaMotta=], and has a supporting cast including the likes of Joe Mantegna, Tom Sizemore, Penelope Ann Miller, Natasha Henstridge, Alicia Witt, Ray Wise, and James Russo.

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A sequel was long in DevelopmentHell (with [=LaMotta's=] involvement), but eventually under the threat of a lawsuit from MGM, the title was changed from ''Raging Bull II'' to ''The Bronx Bull'' in order to disassociate itself from the original. The film stars William Forsythe as the older Jake [=LaMotta=], Morjean Aria as a young [=LaMotta=], and has a supporting cast including the likes of Joe Mantegna, Tom Sizemore, Penelope Ann Miller, Natasha Henstridge, Alicia Witt, Ray Wise, and James Russo.
Russo. The film has been completed, but currently remains on TheShelfOfMovieLangushment.
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