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** Poopdeck Pappy is a thoroughly unpleasant, bitter jerk towards everyone except maybe Swee'Pea.
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* DefeatMeansFriendship: The diner toughs, after a fashion. They all are (understandably) uncomfortable when they next see Popeye (at the engagement party), but when he exiles the tax man, the jubilantly carry him aloft. Later when he goes to have it out with the commodore, they shout encouragement to him.

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* DefeatMeansFriendship: The diner toughs, after a fashion. They all are (understandably) uncomfortable when they next see Popeye (at the engagement party), but when he exiles the tax man, the they jubilantly carry him aloft. Later when he goes to have it out with the commodore, they shout encouragement to him.
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** Wimpy becomes one when he brings Swee'pea to Bluto in exchange for hamburgers, and after Olive makes him confess what he knows about where Swee'pea and Bluto are going, he makes a HeelFaceTurn and joins with Popeye's and Poopdeck Pappy's crew to rescue Swee'pea, Olive, as well as stopping Bluto from taking Poopdeck Pappy's treasure.
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The plot is effectively the origin story of the two-fisted sailor man. After years on the sea, Popeye arrives in the ramshackle town of Sweethaven searching for his [[LongLostRelative long-lost pappy]] (Ray Walston) and winds up not only caught in a LoveTriangle with Olive Oyl (Creator/ShelleyDuvall) and Bluto (Paul L. Smith), but also becoming an adoptive father to an abandoned baby he names Swee'Pea...

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The plot is effectively the origin story of the two-fisted sailor man. After years on the sea, Popeye arrives in the ramshackle town of Sweethaven searching for his [[LongLostRelative long-lost pappy]] (Ray Walston) (Creator/RayWalston) and winds up not only caught in a LoveTriangle with Olive Oyl (Creator/ShelleyDuvall) and Bluto (Paul L. Smith), but also becoming an adoptive father to an abandoned baby he names Swee'Pea...
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** At Olive and Bluto's engagement party a man can be heard complaining about Olive getting married. This man is Ham Gravy, who was Olive's fiance in the original ''Thimble Theater'' comic strip before he was PutOnABus and Popeye took his place.

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** At Olive and Bluto's engagement party a man can be heard complaining about Olive getting married. This man is Ham Gravy, Harold Hamgravy, who was Olive's fiance in the original ''Thimble Theater'' comic strip before he was PutOnABus and Popeye took his place.was introduced. After Popeye became the strips BreakoutCharacter Hamgravy was DemotedToExtra.
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** One minute, Popeye and his adopted kid are being congratulated by the entire town for [[spoiler: getting rid of the hated tax collector]]. And suddenly, he realizes that somewhere in the crowd, ''Swee'Pea has disappeared''.

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** One minute, Popeye and his adopted kid are being congratulated by the entire town for [[spoiler: getting rid of the hated much-hated tax collector]]. And suddenly, he realizes that somewhere in the crowd, ''Swee'Pea has disappeared''.



** Popeye ''destroys'' the six bar toughs single handedly and doesn't even break a sweat.
** Popeye initially fights Oxblood for entertainment and is obviously having no trouble. Then Oxblood tries to fight dirty, which riles Popeye - who ends the fight very decisively shortly after

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** Popeye ''destroys'' the six bar toughs single handedly singlehandedly and doesn't even break a sweat.
** Popeye initially fights Oxblood for entertainment and is obviously having no trouble. Then Oxblood tries to fight dirty, which riles Popeye - who ends the fight very decisively shortly afterafter!



* EvilDebtCollector: The Tax Man will come up with all sorts of frivolous charges to get arbitrary amounts of tax. And he demands exact change!

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* EvilDebtCollector: The Tax Man will come up with all sorts of frivolous charges to get squeeze arbitrary amounts of tax.tax from the townspeople. And he demands exact change!



* NoSell: During their boxing match, Popeye tanks two haymaker shots from the gigantic Oxblood Oxheart without even blinking before flattening him with one shot.

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* NoSell: During their boxing match, Popeye tanks two haymaker shots from the gigantic Oxblood Oxheart without even blinking before flattening him with two shots back, one shot.of them being his Twister Punch.
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* "Jerkass" may be a little harsh to describe Wimpy, but he's a supremely selfish doofus who doesn't care a whit about who may be hurt by his shenanigans and shady dealings. Which perfectly captures his character from the comics.

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* ** "Jerkass" may be a little harsh to describe Wimpy, but he's a supremely selfish doofus who doesn't care a whit about who may be hurt by his shenanigans and shady dealings. Which perfectly captures his character from the comics.
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* "Jerkass" may be a little harsh to describe Wimpy, but he's a supremely selfish doofus who doesn't care a whit about who may be hurt by his shenanigans and shady dealings. Which perfectly captures his character from the comics.
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* JerkAss: Oh yes:
** Bluto, of course. He's not merely the blowhard bully from the cartoon... he has no problems resorting to kidnapping and murder.
** Poopdeck Pappy is a thoroughly unpleasant, bitter jerk towards everyone except maybe Swee'Pea.
** Olive Oyl, of all people, is portrayed this way in the beginning: she's snippy, conceited, self-centered and generally a raging bitch to everybody in her orbit. [[DefrostingTheIceQueen She gets better, though.]]

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar:
** The "house of ill re-pukes" that Wimpy takes Swee'pea to in order to bet on horses is not only a place of gambling but has overtones of being a brothel. It's never directly ''stated'', but the following dialogue as Popeye and the Oyls enter the place leaves very little room for doubt:
-->'''Popeye:''' What is this, a house of ill re-pukes? Ooh, who'd bring me infink to this den o' immoraliky? ''(to Olive)'' Don't touch nothin', you might get a [[{{Malaproper}} venerable disease.]]\\
'''Lady of "ill re-pukes":''' Oooh, is that a bed pole you got in your pocket, handsome?
** The entire reason Bluto goes sideways on seeing Popeye, Olive, and Swee'pea together is that he thinks that she had sex with Popeye and produced a child with him!
** When he first arrives at the Oyls, Popeye's seabag keeps bumping Nana Oyl's boobs, to the point where she starts covering them every time he turns.
** Upon arriving in Sweet Haven, Popeye sees La Verne the Waitress straightening her stockings. Popeye mutters "[[AllMenArePerverts Nice lookin' knees...]] that does it for me!"
** Alarmed at Swee'Pea's rattle, Olive jumps into Popeye's arms her legs emphatically around him. Popeye notes "We should at least have dinner first!"

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** The "house of ill re-pukes" that Wimpy takes Swee'pea
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-->'''Popeye:''' What is this, a house of ill re-pukes? Ooh, who'd bring me infink to
until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this den o' immoraliky? ''(to Olive)'' Don't touch nothin', you might get a [[{{Malaproper}} venerable disease.]]\\
'''Lady of "ill re-pukes":''' Oooh, is that a bed pole you got
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** The entire reason Bluto goes sideways on seeing Popeye, Olive, and Swee'pea together is that he thinks that she had sex with Popeye and produced a child with him!
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** Upon arriving in Sweet Haven, Popeye sees La Verne the Waitress straightening her stockings. Popeye mutters "[[AllMenArePerverts Nice lookin' knees...]] that does it for me!"
** Alarmed at Swee'Pea's rattle, Olive jumps into Popeye's arms her legs emphatically around him. Popeye notes "We should at least have dinner first!"
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* SeeYouInHell: Bluto gives Popeye the sailor equivalent after force feeding him a can of spinach and shoving him underwater to drown.
-->'''Bluto:''' See you in Davy Jones’s Locker.
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A 1980 [[TheMusical Musical]] LiveActionAdaptation starring Creator/RobinWilliams as the [[ComicStrip/{{Popeye}} eponymous character]] and directed by Creator/RobertAltman, with a song score by Music/HarryNilsson, and a screenplay by Jules Feiffer.

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A ''Popeye'' is a 1980 [[TheMusical Musical]] LiveActionAdaptation starring Creator/RobinWilliams as the [[ComicStrip/{{Popeye}} eponymous character]] and directed by Creator/RobertAltman, with a song score by Music/HarryNilsson, and a screenplay by Jules Feiffer.



Though a financial success (the movie grossed more than twice its enormous budget in the U.S. alone), the film was widely reviled and panned by critics. Popeye fans were upset that the film was nothing like the Fleischer/Paramount cartoons and instead drew heavily from the Thimble Theater comic strip which birthed Popeye. The film derailed Altman's directorial career for a decade and was largely disowned by Robin Williams

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Though a financial success (the movie grossed more than twice its enormous budget in the U.S. alone), critical reception towards the film was widely reviled and panned by critics. Popeye mixed. ''Popeye'' fans were upset that the film was nothing like the Fleischer/Paramount cartoons and instead drew heavily from the Thimble Theater comic strip which birthed Popeye. ''Popeye''. The film derailed Altman's directorial career for a decade and was largely disowned by Robin Williams
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The movie grossed more than twice its enormous budget in the U.S. alone (it took two studios to mount it -- Paramount and Disney). It was also a TroubledProduction; between that and its inability to live up to Paramount's high expectations, Robin Williams came to see it as something of an OldShame and it derailed Altman's mainstream directorial career for well over a decade. It hasn't yet been outright VindicatedByHistory, but it does have a growing CultClassic following.

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The Though a financial success (the movie grossed more than twice its enormous budget in the U.S. alone (it took two studios to mount it -- Paramount alone), the film was widely reviled and Disney). It was also a TroubledProduction; between panned by critics. Popeye fans were upset that the film was nothing like the Fleischer/Paramount cartoons and its inability to live up to Paramount's high expectations, Robin Williams came to see it as something of an OldShame and it instead drew heavily from the Thimble Theater comic strip which birthed Popeye. The film derailed Altman's mainstream directorial career for well over a decade. It hasn't yet been outright VindicatedByHistory, but it does have a growing CultClassic following.
decade and was largely disowned by Robin Williams
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** Popeye initially fights Oxblood for entertainment and is obviously having no trouble. Then Oxblood tries to fight dirty, which riles Popeye - who ends the fight very decisively shortly after
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A 1980 [[TheMusical Musical]] LiveActionAdaptation starring Creator/RobinWilliams as the eponymous character and directed by Creator/RobertAltman, with a song score by Music/HarryNilsson, and a screenplay by Jules Feiffer.

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A 1980 [[TheMusical Musical]] LiveActionAdaptation starring Creator/RobinWilliams as the [[ComicStrip/{{Popeye}} eponymous character character]] and directed by Creator/RobertAltman, with a song score by Music/HarryNilsson, and a screenplay by Jules Feiffer.
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* MegatonPunch: Both Bluto and the octopus are on the receiving end of one by Popeye once he's empowered by spinach.

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* MegatonPunch: Both Bluto and the octopus are on the receiving end of one by Popeye once he's empowered by spinach.spinach, though the one Bluto receives is less powerful given how it merely blows him a feet back into the water, whereas the one Popeye uses to propel the octopus in the sky is ''winded up''.

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** The killer octopus is first pummeled silly by a spinach-powered Popeye, and then it gets hit by an uppercut of such ridiculous power that it is launched not just out of the ocean, but ''several hundred feet in the sky.'' It's difficult to think of another movie monster who was annihilated *that* badly in the final fight.

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** The killer octopus is first pummeled silly by a spinach-powered Popeye, and then it gets hit by an [[MegatonPunch uppercut of such ridiculous power power]] that it is launched not just out of the ocean, but ''several hundred feet in the sky.'' sky''. It's difficult to think of another movie monster who was annihilated *that* badly in the a final fight.


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* GiantSquid: A giant octopus attacks Olive in the climax. Once Popeye gets empowered by spinach, he makes quick work of it.


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* ATwinkleInTheSky: The giant octopus gets propelled in the sky this way by Popeye's MegatonPunch.
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* MegatonPunch: Both Bluto and the octopus are on the receiving end of one by Popeye once he's empowered by spinach.
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* PickyEater: Popeye ''hates'' spinach in this version. Bluto makes the mistake of {{force feeding}} him spinach in the climax, with the expected result.
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The plot is effectively the origin story of the two-fisted sailor man. After years on the sea, Popeye arrives in the ramshackle town of Sweethaven searching for his [[LongLostRelative long-lost pappy]] (Ray Walston) and winds up not only caught in a LoveTriangle with Olive Oyl ([[Series/FaerieTaleTheatre Shelley Duvall]]) and Bluto (Paul L. Smith), but also becoming an adoptive father to an abandoned baby he names Swee'Pea...

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The plot is effectively the origin story of the two-fisted sailor man. After years on the sea, Popeye arrives in the ramshackle town of Sweethaven searching for his [[LongLostRelative long-lost pappy]] (Ray Walston) and winds up not only caught in a LoveTriangle with Olive Oyl ([[Series/FaerieTaleTheatre Shelley Duvall]]) (Creator/ShelleyDuvall) and Bluto (Paul L. Smith), but also becoming an adoptive father to an abandoned baby he names Swee'Pea...

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* CurbStompBattle: Bluto brutally and decisively trashes Popeye at the engagement party.

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* CurbStompBattle: Several...
** Popeye ''destroys'' the six bar toughs single handedly and doesn't even break a sweat.
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* EpicFail: Spike attempts to break a chair over Popeye's head, but failed to notice the ceiling fan in the way. The chair gets harmlessly caught on a blade. Spike can only give a lame shrug and [[OhCrapSmile pathetic grin]] before Popeye clobbers him.



*** And when the brawl goes down, Popeye lays waste to the toughs. At the edge of the frame, Spike can be seen grabbing a ketchup bottle [[GrievousBottleyHarm to use as a club]], then realizing this isn't gonna do much good against ''this'' guy, and sheepishly placing it back on the table. He opts to smash Popeye with a chair instead, which doesn't [[EpicFail work out very well either]].

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*** And when the brawl goes down, Popeye lays waste to the toughs. At the edge of the frame, Spike can be seen grabbing a ketchup bottle [[GrievousBottleyHarm to use as a club]], then realizing this isn't gonna do much good against ''this'' guy, and sheepishly placing it back on the table. He opts to smash Popeye with a chair instead, which doesn't [[EpicFail work out very well either]].
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*** As Popeye is taking down the last tough, look in the far background. Slick the Milkman (whom Gozo forced to sit on a hot stove for several minutes) is being carried away to safety on his wife Rosie's shoulders, while fanning the charred seat of his pants!
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*** And when the brawl goes down, Popeye lays waste to the toughs. At the edge of the frame, Spike can be seen grabbing a ketchup bottle [[GrievousBottleyHarm to use as a club]], then realizing this isn't gonna do much good against ''this'' guy, and awkwardly places it back on the table.

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*** And when the brawl goes down, Popeye lays waste to the toughs. At the edge of the frame, Spike can be seen grabbing a ketchup bottle [[GrievousBottleyHarm to use as a club]], then realizing this isn't gonna do much good against ''this'' guy, and awkwardly places sheepishly placing it back on the table.table. He opts to smash Popeye with a chair instead, which doesn't [[EpicFail work out very well either]].
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*** And when the brawl goes down, Popeye lays waste to the toughs. At the edge of the frame, Spike can be seen grabbing a ketchup bottle [[GrievousBottleyHarm to use as a club]], then realizing this isn't gonna do much good against ''this'' guy, and awkwardly places it back on the table.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Bluto tells the Commodore that they can use Swee'Pea's ability to pick winners at the gambling house. The Commodore has to point out to Bluto that he ''owns'' the gambling house, and would thus be winning money from himself.
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* YouAreNotMyFather: Briefly, when Popeye and Poopdeck Pappy bicker while chasing after Bluto's ship; "Is that any way to talk to your father?" "You ain't my father. My father was tall, and kind, and looked like Abraham Lincoln."
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** Hoagy, a piano player for the Rough House, is played by Van Dyke Parks, who arranged and conducted Nilsson's songs, including "I'm Popeye the Sailor Man" at the end of the film.

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** Hoagy, a piano player for the Rough House, is played by Van Dyke Parks, who arranged and conducted Nilsson's songs, including songs as well as "I'm Popeye the Sailor Man" at the end of the film.Man".



* VictoriousChorus: At the end of the film, a chorus triumphantly sings "I'm Popeye the Sailor Man" along with Popeye himself.

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* VictoriousChorus: At the end of the film, a the main cast (including Popeye himself) and an offscreen chorus triumphantly sings sing Van Dyke Parks's arrangement of "I'm Popeye the Sailor Man" along with Popeye himself.Man".

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* ChildHater: Downplayed with Poopdeck Pappy; his misanthropic "Kids" song focuses on the fickleness and ingratitude of human nature:
-->'''Poopdeck Pappy''': Bless their little hearts, if they was made out of gold, I'd like to sell 'em on the open market. I could make me a fortune. Kids! Eh, they don't know what they're doing. Kids, dadblast 'em! They're gonna lead you to ruin. That's what they're gonna do, lead you to ruin. They cry at you when they're young, they yell at you when they're older, they borrows from you when they's middle-aged and they leave you alone to die. Without even paying you back! Children, phooey. You give them everything they want, and what do you get back in return? You get nothing! Why they're just smaller versions of us you know, but I'm not so crazy about me in the first place, so why would I want one of them? I'm asking ya. Children. Ah, children. Little children. You'll pour your heart to them, you give them everything they want. Give them candy and a lot of toys, and what do you get in return? You get a lot of noise: "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, my poppa's a mean old man!" I'm through with children, I'm through with kids. They ain't nothing I'm never gonna do about it.
** However, when he sees Swee'pea in the clutches of Bluto, who's using him like a human treasure detector, he sees hope for the future generation and goes on a rescue mission, and starts bonding with Swee'pea and Popeye.
* ChildrenAreAWaste: Poopdeck Pappy's "Kids" song.
* ChildrenAreInnocent: Swee'pea.

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* ChildHater: Downplayed with ChildrenAreAWaste: {{Deconstructed}} in Poopdeck Pappy; his misanthropic Pappy's "Kids" song that focuses on the kids' brattiness, fickleness and the ingratitude of human nature:
-->'''Poopdeck Pappy''': Bless their little hearts, if they was made out of gold, I'd like to sell 'em on the open market. I could make me a fortune. Kids! Eh, they don't know what they're doing. Kids, dadblast 'em! They're gonna lead you to ruin. That's what they're gonna do, lead you to ruin. They cry at you when they're young, they yell at you when they're older, they borrows from you when they's middle-aged and they leave you alone to die. Without even paying you back! Children, phooey. You give them everything they want, and what do you get back in return? You get nothing! Why they're just smaller versions of us you know, but I'm not so crazy about me in the first place, so why would I want one of them? I'm asking ya. Children. Ah, children. Little children. You'll pour your heart to them, you give them everything they want. Give them candy and a lot of toys, and what do you get in return? You get a lot of noise: "Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, my poppa's a mean old man!" I'm through with children, I'm through with kids. They ain't nothing I'm never gonna do about it.
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** However, Poopdeck clearly care for babies, as noted when [[PapaWolf he sees rescues Swee'pea in from the clutches of Bluto, who's using him like a human treasure detector, he sees hope for the future generation and goes on a rescue mission, and starts bonding with Swee'pea and Popeye.
* ChildrenAreAWaste: Poopdeck Pappy's "Kids" song.
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Swee'pea.Poopdeck sees the pure innocence of Swee'pea, making cute baby talk noises as he bonds with him in a gentle way, becoming a grandfather figure to Swee'pea.



** The "house of ill re-pukes" that Wimpy takes Swee'pea to in order to bet on horses is not only a place of gambling but clearly also a brothel. It's never directly ''stated'', but the following dialogue as Popeye and the Oyls enter the place make very little room for doubt:

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** The "house of ill re-pukes" that Wimpy takes Swee'pea to in order to bet on horses is not only a place of gambling but clearly also has overtones of being a brothel. It's never directly ''stated'', but the following dialogue as Popeye and the Oyls enter the place make leaves very little room for doubt:
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* AllThatGlitters: The treasure that everyone is hunting in the final act turns out to be...Pappy's mementos of his son, making for a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when he shows the items to Swee'Pea.

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* AllThatGlitters: The treasure that everyone is hunting in the final act turns out to be...Pappy's mementos of his son, making for a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming when which he shows the items to Swee'Pea.

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