History Film / OnceUponATimeInAmerica

30th Jul '17 6:35:58 AM Morgenthaler
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The film had [[DevelopmentHell a ''very'' long gestation process]]. Leone wanted to make ''America'' as early as 1967, but wasn't able to ensure financing, or the rights to Grey's novel. He first approached Paramount with the project; they offered him ''Film/OnceUponATimeInTheWest'' instead. Later, he declined a chance to make ''Film/TheGodfather'' because he preferred ''The Hoods''. Throughout the '70s, Leone courted Hollywood studios, oversaw several screenplays by different writers, and even cast actors like Tom Berenger and Richard Dreyfuss at various points. He offered directing chores to John Milius, planning to produce, but Milius opted to make ''Film/TheWindAndTheLion'' instead. Eventually, Leone interested Robert De Niro and independent producer Arnon Milchan; the film finally went in production in 1982 and wrapped two years later.

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The film had [[DevelopmentHell a ''very'' long gestation process]]. Leone wanted to make ''America'' as early as 1967, but wasn't able to ensure financing, or the rights to Grey's novel. He first approached Paramount with the project; they offered him ''Film/OnceUponATimeInTheWest'' instead. Later, he declined a chance to make ''Film/TheGodfather'' because he preferred ''The Hoods''. Throughout the '70s, Leone courted Hollywood studios, oversaw several screenplays by different writers, and even cast actors like Tom Berenger Creator/TomBerenger and Richard Dreyfuss at various points. He offered directing chores to John Milius, planning to produce, but Milius opted to make ''Film/TheWindAndTheLion'' instead. Eventually, Leone interested Robert De Niro and independent producer Arnon Milchan; the film finally went in production in 1982 and wrapped two years later.
17th Feb '17 4:33:49 PM Stonewall9177
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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang (other than Max) to actually survive, he is constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who actually does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He continually finds himself at the butt end of the gang's jokes and other backhanded remarks. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/end of the 1933 portion.]]

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* Butt Monkey: ButtMonkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang (other than Max) to actually survive, he is constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who actually does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He continually finds himself at the butt end of the gang's jokes and other backhanded remarks. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/end of the 1933 portion.]]
17th Feb '17 4:26:57 PM Stonewall9177
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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang (other than Max) to actually survive, he is constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who actually does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He is continually finds himself at the butt end of the gang's jokes and other various remarks. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/end of the 1933 portion.]]

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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang (other than Max) to actually survive, he is constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who actually does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He is continually finds himself at the butt end of the gang's jokes and other various backhanded remarks. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/end of the 1933 portion.]]
17th Feb '17 4:25:57 PM Stonewall9177
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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang [[spoiler:(other than Max)]] to actually survive, he constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He is continually at the butt end of the gang's jokes later on in the 1933 portion of the film. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/ end of the 1933 portion.

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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang [[spoiler:(other (other than Max)]] Max) to actually survive, he is constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who actually does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He is continually finds himself at the butt end of the gang's jokes later on in the 1933 portion of the film. and other various remarks. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/ end film/end of the 1933 portion.]]
17th Feb '17 4:22:29 PM Stonewall9177
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* Butt Monkey: Noodles. He is essentially the textbook example of this trope. Despite the fact that he's the only member of the gang [[spoiler:(other than Max)]] to actually survive, he constantly subjected to the rotten end of the stick throughout the film. First off, he's the only member of the gang who does time in prison. He's rejected by Deborah. He is continually at the butt end of the gang's jokes later on in the 1933 portion of the film. And needless to say, he's left penniless and virtually friendless at the beginning of the film/ end of the 1933 portion.
17th Feb '17 1:24:05 PM Stonewall9177
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*TheChessmaster: [[spoiler: Max/Secretary Bailey. He arranged the entire scheme of the final booze run, allowing Patsy and Cockeye to be killed, taking the gang's money, and setting himself up for a prominent career in politics; all while leaving Noodles to a grim and penniless future.]]
24th Jan '17 6:39:14 AM Gosicrystal
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Leone's original six hour cut is apparently {{Lost Forever}}, and the four hour restored version has a couple dropped plot points, most notably Joe Pesci's character. The camera pans over to him apparently waiting for someone in a hotel lobby with ominous music playing...and he's never seen again.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Leone's original six hour cut is apparently {{Lost Forever}}, missing, and the four hour restored version has a couple dropped plot points, most notably Joe Pesci's character. The camera pans over to him apparently waiting for someone in a hotel lobby with ominous music playing...and he's never seen again.
2nd Jan '17 10:58:21 PM Generations91
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* BigApplesauce: Takes place mostly in New York during the Prohibiton era.
23rd Dec '16 12:12:12 AM bt8257
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* TheCameo:
** Creator/JoePesci puts in a minor appearance as a guy employing the gang. Apparently Pesci's role was a lot bigger in Leone's script but was cut down considerably, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse which explains him completely disappearing in the last third of the film.]]

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TheCameo: Creator/JoePesci puts in a minor appearance as a guy employing the gang. Apparently Pesci's role was a lot bigger in Leone's script but was cut down considerably, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse which explains him completely disappearing in the last third of the film.]]



* SilenceIsGolden: Like most of Sergio Leone's films, it's '''''very''''' sparse when it comes to dialogue.

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* SilenceIsGolden: Like most of Sergio Leone's films, it's '''''very''''' '''''VERY''''' sparse when it comes to dialogue.
5th Sep '16 2:30:48 PM haloinsider
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* ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules: The driver present during [[spoiler: Noodles' rape of Deborah]] does not realize what has happened until he pulls over to let Noodles out at his stop. After Noodles gets out to compose himself and reflect on what he just did, the driver tells Deborah that he'll be right back before walking over to Noodles with his hat and coat and waiting patiently for him to call down. Noodles takes his things and offers the driver a large sum of cash to take Deborah home, but the driver simply turns around, walks back to his vehicle, and drives Deborah away without taking any of the money.
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