History Film / Moneyball

17th Oct '17 1:40:50 PM fibonnaciseries
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** In real life the 2002 A's were anything but though. As mentioned they had the best starting pitching staff in baseball and potential superstars Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez. They were picked by many to win the division and possibly the world series. The film glosses over all of that and focuses on secondary players. Every top team is structured the same way, a few stars, and lots of good supporting players. This film was the equivalent and a movie about the Miami Heat winning a championship and focusing on Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Chris Andersen without ever mentioning [[=LeBron=]] James, Dwyane Wade, or Chris Bosh.

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** In real life the 2002 A's were anything but though. As mentioned they had the best starting pitching staff in baseball and potential superstars Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez. They were picked by many to win the division and possibly the world series. The film glosses over all of that and focuses on secondary players. Every top team is structured the same way, a few stars, and lots of good supporting players. This film was the equivalent and a movie about the Miami Heat winning a championship and focusing on Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Chris Andersen without ever mentioning [[=LeBron=]] [=LeBron=] James, Dwyane Wade, or Chris Bosh.
17th Oct '17 1:40:20 PM fibonnaciseries
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** In real life the 2002 A's were anything but though. As mentioned they had the best starting pitching staff in baseball and potential superstars Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez. They were picked by many to win the division and possibly the world series. The film glosses over all of that and focuses on secondary players. Every top team is structured the same way, a few stars, and lots of good supporting players. This film was the equivalent and a movie about the Miami Heat winning a championship and focusing on Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Chris Andersen without ever mentioning LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, or Chris Bosh.

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** In real life the 2002 A's were anything but though. As mentioned they had the best starting pitching staff in baseball and potential superstars Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez. They were picked by many to win the division and possibly the world series. The film glosses over all of that and focuses on secondary players. Every top team is structured the same way, a few stars, and lots of good supporting players. This film was the equivalent and a movie about the Miami Heat winning a championship and focusing on Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Chris Andersen without ever mentioning LeBron [[=LeBron=]] James, Dwyane Wade, or Chris Bosh.
17th Oct '17 1:31:07 PM fibonnaciseries
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** When Beane visits [[spoiler:Fenway Park]] at the end of the movie, the pennants for the [[spoiler: 2004 and 2007 World Series Championships]] are clearly visible on the facade despite the scene being set in 2002.
7th Oct '17 8:06:12 PM megarockman
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* ICouldaBeenAContender: Inverted with Billy himself - he was convinced by scouts from the New York Mets to turn down a scholarship from Stanford to be drafted out of high school. A flame out of a short career left him embittered towards the old-school-style scouts that he butts heads with early in the movie.


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* SpeakTruthToPower: Brand telling right to Beane that he (Brand) would have drafted Beane in the 9th round with no signing bonus if he were the Mets GM in 1984, rather than the first round with a big bonus, is what seals Beane's decision to hire him away from the Indians.
5th Oct '17 1:04:27 PM kquinn0830
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* CreateYourOwnVillain: In the book it's mentioned that one baseball executive who was very interested in what Billy was doing was an assistant for the Boston Red Sox named Theo Epstein, whom Beane would discuss ideas with. Epstein would be promoted to General manager after Beane turned the job down and proceeded to use everything he learned along with Boston's large free agency allowance to build their World Series winning teams before moving on to the Chicago Cubs and doing the same thing.
3rd Sep '17 12:02:10 PM teachzebra
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** In real life the 2002 A's were anything but though. As mentioned they had the best starting pitching staff in baseball and potential superstars Miguel Tejada and Eric Chavez. They were picked by many to win the division and possibly the world series. The film glosses over all of that and focuses on secondary players. Every top team is structured the same way, a few stars, and lots of good supporting players. This film was the equivalent and a movie about the Miami Heat winning a championship and focusing on Ray Allen, Mario Chalmers, and Chris Andersen without ever mentioning LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, or Chris Bosh.



* TemptingFate: With the A's gunning for their record 20th consecutive win, Billy's daughter implores him to break his routine and watch the game for once to enjoy his accomplishment; with the A's up 11, she insists, "You won't jinx it!" The Royals make up the 11-run difference once Billy arrives at the Coliseum.

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* TemptingFate: With the A's gunning for their record 20th consecutive win, Billy's daughter implores him to break his routine and watch the game for once to enjoy his accomplishment; with the A's up 11, she insists, "You won't jinx it!" The Royals make up the 11-run difference once Billy Billy
arrives at the Coliseum.
14th May '17 6:51:21 AM RaiderDuck
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* CareerEndingInjury: Inverted. Scott Hatteberg has irreparable nerve damage in his elbow, which renders him unable to throw or catch the ball. He's fielded as a first base player instead, precisely to ignore his handicap and to make use of his other skills.

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* CareerEndingInjury: Inverted. Scott Hatteberg has irreparable nerve damage in his elbow, which renders him unable to throw or catch the ball. He's fielded as ball with any kind of velocity, a necessary skill for a catcher. Beane converts him to a first base player instead, baseman precisely to ignore his handicap and to make use of his other skills.
21st Apr '17 1:30:38 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BrokenStreak: Averted. The A's go up 11-0 on the Royals and look like they'll cruise to their record 20th straight victory. The Royals gradually chip away at the lead and manage to tie the game 11-11... and then the A's Scott Hatteberg hits a walk-off home run in the 9th inning. (This scene is [[TruthInTelevision historically accurate]].)

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* BrokenStreak: BrokenWinLossStreak: Averted. The A's go up 11-0 on the Royals and look like they'll cruise to their record 20th straight victory. The Royals gradually chip away at the lead and manage to tie the game 11-11... and then the A's Scott Hatteberg hits a walk-off home run in the 9th inning. (This scene is [[TruthInTelevision historically accurate]].)
28th Dec '16 7:18:11 PM kquinn0830
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->''"People who run ball clubs, they think in terms of buying players. Your goal shouldn't be to buy players, your goal should be to buy wins."''
-->-- '''Peter Brand'''
2nd Nov '16 10:34:23 PM Pysiewicz
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* TheExtremistWasRight: Beane redefined the way how baseball - and by extension all team-based sports - is played, simply by spitting on everything that was done before. This includes selling his best players just to get [[BoringButPractical the rest of the team]] room to do play.

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* TheExtremistWasRight: Beane redefined the way how baseball - and by extension all team-based sports - is played, simply by spitting on everything that was done before. This includes selling his best players just to get [[BoringButPractical the rest of the team]] room to do play.
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