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* AsianStoreOwner: The opening scene features Caine and O-Dog stopping by a convenience store to get some beer. The Asian store owner and his wife treat them with such suspicion and rudeness that O-Dog snaps and murders them both.



* BerserkButton: O-Dog ''might'' have spared the AsianStoreOwner (keyword being ''[[AxCrazy might]]'') if he hadn't said [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas he felt sorry for O-Dog's mother]].

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* BerserkButton: O-Dog ''might'' have spared the AsianStoreOwner Korean shop owners (keyword being ''[[AxCrazy might]]'') if he hadn't said [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas he felt sorry for O-Dog's mother]].



* HairTriggerTemper: O-Dog, who could accurately be described as a black, slightly more trigger-happy version of [[Film/GoodFellas Tommy DeVito]]. After killing the said AsianStoreOwner couple mentioned above, he steals the surveillance tape and proudly plays it for his friends on numerous occasions, much to Caine's chagrin.

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* HairTriggerTemper: O-Dog, who could accurately be described as a black, slightly more trigger-happy version of [[Film/GoodFellas Tommy DeVito]]. After killing the said AsianStoreOwner couple mentioned above, Korean shopkeeper couple, he steals the surveillance tape and proudly plays it for his friends on numerous occasions, much to Caine's chagrin.



** O-Dog stands out as the most psychotic, sadistic and unlikable of the bunch. He's a toxic friend to Caine who doesn't respect his desire to leave the ghetto behind and start anew, embraces his own violent side and actively brings out the worst in Caine. He also has no morals or common sense to hold him back from being a horrible person. He really drives this point further when he kills an innocent Asian store owner and his wife for making an off-hand comment about his mother and then shows the surveillance tape to his friends for means of entertainment. He later kills a drug addict for harassing him and steals his food.
** Chauncey might not be as sociopathic or sadistic as O-Dog, but he certainly lacks in terms of loyalty and competence. He is a complete prick to everyone around him and a lazy, irresponsible and unambitious moron whose deliberately botched plan to hijack a car has both Caine and O-Dog arrested. He later harasses Ronnie in front of her child and boyfriend which gets him beaten up and as means of getting back at his friends, he sends the videotape of O-Dog whacking the Asian store owner to the police. It's no wonder why none of his friends really like him.

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** O-Dog stands out as the most psychotic, sadistic and unlikable of the bunch. He's a toxic friend to Caine who doesn't respect his desire to leave the ghetto behind and start anew, embraces his own violent side and actively brings out the worst in Caine. He also has no morals or common sense to hold him back from being a horrible person. He really drives this point further when he kills an innocent Asian Korean store owner and his wife for making an off-hand comment about his mother and then shows the surveillance tape to his friends for means of entertainment. He later kills a drug addict for harassing him and steals his food.
** Chauncey might not be as sociopathic or sadistic as O-Dog, but he certainly lacks in terms of loyalty and competence. He is a complete prick to everyone around him and a lazy, irresponsible and unambitious moron whose deliberately botched plan to hijack a car has both Caine and O-Dog arrested. He later harasses Ronnie in front of her child and boyfriend which gets him beaten up and as means of getting back at his friends, he sends the videotape of O-Dog whacking the Asian Korean store owner to the police. It's no wonder why none of his friends really like him.



* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Besides the above PoliceBrutality incident, many characters are thrilled by the tape of O-Dog killing the AsianStoreOwner, and O-Dog himself is a homophobe [[spoiler:who kills a beggar offering food for money when he asks for sexual favors as payment]].

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Besides the above PoliceBrutality incident, many characters are thrilled by the tape of O-Dog killing the AsianStoreOwner, Korean shopkeeper, and O-Dog himself is a homophobe [[spoiler:who kills a beggar offering food for money when he asks for sexual favors as payment]].payment]].
* {{Profiling}}: The opening scene features Caine and O-Dog stopping by a convenience store to get some beer. The Korean store owner and his wife treat them with such suspicion and rudeness that O-Dog snaps and murders them both.
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* VengeanceFeelsEmpty: Caine feels this way after getting revenge on the carjackers that murdered his cousin.
-->'''Caine:''' I thought killing those fools would make me feel good. But it really didn't make me feel anything. I just knew that I could kill someone. And if I had to, I would do it again.
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* DarkReprise: "Streiht Up Menace" by MC Eiht appears in two versions: the high-tempo remix that plays in the car of the guy at the drive-thru Caine robs, and the slow, melancholic original version that plays over the credits. The song is basically a summary of the film and Caine's life, so it's only fitting that in the moment, it's more of a "banger", demonstrating Caine's status as a successful criminal, while in the end, it's a sad recounting of the tragedy that is Caine's life.
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** The Korean store clerk, who feels the need to insult O-Dog's mother, which gets him (and his wife) killed. No one could predict O-Dog would ''murder'' them for a comment, but O-Dog wasn't exactly hiding how unstable he was, and comments like that just add fuel to the flame.

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** The Korean store clerk, who feels the need to insult O-Dog's mother, which gets him (and his wife) killed. No one could predict O-Dog would ''murder'' them for a comment, but O-Dog wasn't exactly hiding how unstable he was, was already on edge from the owner's wife treating them like shoplifters, and comments like that just add fuel to the flame.



** Harold, who tries to reach for a gun while being held at gunpoint by one of the carjackers.
** Ilena's cousin, ''who didn't even know who Caine was and had to ask'', and waltzed into a rival 'hood with no weapon nor backup. Cue the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown from Caine.

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** Harold, who tries to reach for a gun while being held at gunpoint by one of the two carjackers.
** Ilena's cousin, ''who didn't even know who Caine was and had to ask'', and waltzed into a rival 'hood with no weapon nor or backup. Cue the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown from Caine.
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** The rival gang members after brutally killing Caine's cousin for no reason after stealing his car. Later, they are seen bullying and harassing a female hot dog cart worker.

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** The rival gang members after brutally killing Caine's cousin for no reason after stealing his car. Later, they are seen bullying and harassing a female hot dog cart stall worker.
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** O-Dog stands out as the most psychotic, sadistic and unlikable of the bunch. He's a toxic friend to Caine who doesn't respect his desire to leave the ghetto behind and start anew, embraces his own violent side and actively brings out the worst in Caine. He also has no morals or common sense to hold him back from being a horrible person. He really drives this point further when he kills an innocent Asian store owner and his wife for making an off-hand comment about his mother and then shows the surveillance tape to his friends for means of entertainment. He later kills a drug addict for not paying his debts and steals his food.

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** O-Dog stands out as the most psychotic, sadistic and unlikable of the bunch. He's a toxic friend to Caine who doesn't respect his desire to leave the ghetto behind and start anew, embraces his own violent side and actively brings out the worst in Caine. He also has no morals or common sense to hold him back from being a horrible person. He really drives this point further when he kills an innocent Asian store owner and his wife for making an off-hand comment about his mother and then shows the surveillance tape to his friends for means of entertainment. He later kills a drug addict for not paying his debts harassing him and steals his food.
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* BloodierAndGorier[=/=]DarkerAndEdgier[=/=]SpiritualAntithesis: This film is far more violent, dramatic, downbeat, darker and edgier than ''Film/BoyzNTheHood''. The film has almost no lighter moments, mainly for the ending. ''Everything'' in this film is PlayedForDrama. Both films chronicle the struggles of the ghetto. But While Creator/JohnSingleton's film followed Tre, a decent kid who ultimately stays straight and escapes the hood, ''Menace'' follows one of the many youths who succumb to the streets and don't make it out. The Creator/HughesBrothers wanted their film to sort of be the reverse side of the coin that we saw in ''Boyz''.

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* BloodierAndGorier[=/=]DarkerAndEdgier[=/=]SpiritualAntithesis: This film is far more violent, dramatic, downbeat, darker and edgier than ''Film/BoyzNTheHood''. The film has almost no lighter moments, mainly for the ending. ''Everything'' in this film is PlayedForDrama. Both films chronicle the struggles of the ghetto. But While while Creator/JohnSingleton's film followed Tre, a decent kid who ultimately stays straight and escapes the hood, ''Menace'' follows one of the many youths who succumb to the streets and don't make it out. The Creator/HughesBrothers wanted their film to sort of be the reverse side of the coin that we saw in ''Boyz''.
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->''"My grandpa asked me one time if I care whether I live or die. Yeah, I do. Now it's too late."''

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->''"My ->''"After stomping Ilena's cousin like that, I knew I was gonna have to deal with that fool someday. Damn. I never thought he'd come back like this, blasting. Like I said, it was funny like that in the hood sometimes. I mean, you never knew what was gonna happen, or when. I'd done too much to turn back, and I'd done too much to go on. I guess in the end it all catches up with you. My grandpa asked me one time if I care whether I live or die. Yeah, I do. Now it's too late."''
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->''"My grandpa asked me one time if I care whether I live or die. Yeah, I do. Now it's too late."''
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The security tape of O-Dog killing the Korean store owners is clearly meant to invoke the security cam footage of Latasha Harlins, a 15 year old black girl killed by a Korean liquor store owner over a bottle of orange juice. Back in 1993, this was a hot topic of discussion and the allusion would definitely be understood by audiences.
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* ArcWords: "Do you care whether you live or die?" Several characters ask Caine this question (or a variation thereof), and he's honestly not sure.

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* ArcWords: "Do you care whether you live or die?" Several characters ask Caine this question (or a variation thereof), and he's honestly not sure. [[spoiler:When he finally decides he does, [[TheHeroDies it's already too late]].]]
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* ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime: Caine doesn't live to see it bear out, but if he was trying to escape street life, Atlanta made little sense as a destination.

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* ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime: Caine doesn't live to see it bear out, but if he was trying to escape street life, Atlanta made would make very little sense as a destination.
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* ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime: Caine doesn't live to see it bear out, but if he was trying to escape street life, Atlanta made little sense as a destination.

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* JerkAssHasAPoint: Even though his motive for doing so is kind of questionable, Chauncey did the right thing by turning the robbery footage over to police. O-Dog was a sociopathic monster, and needed to be off the streets.

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* JerkAssHasAPoint: Even JerkAssHasAPoint:
**The Korean store owners were proven to be right to be suspicious of O-Dogg, unfortunately at the costs of their own lives.
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though his motive for doing so is kind of questionable, Chauncey did the right thing by turning the robbery footage over to police. O-Dog was a sociopathic monster, and needed to be off the streets.
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* ClusterFBomb: More so than in ''Boyz n the Hood'', with a whopping 305 uses of "fuck"--at the time, even outdoing ''{{Film/Goodfellas}}'' by 5 f-bombs. (''{{Film/Casino}}'' would later outdo ''Menace'' by '''117''' f-bombs.)

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* ClusterFBomb: More so than in ''Boyz n the Hood'', with a whopping 305 300 uses of "fuck"--at the time, even outdoing ''{{Film/Goodfellas}}'' by 5 f-bombs. (''{{Film/Casino}}'' "fuck" (tying ''{{Film/Goodfellas}}''. ''{{Film/Casino}}'' would later outdo ''Menace'' by '''117''' '''122''' f-bombs.)
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Even A-Wax is stunned by O-Dog's sociopathy [[spoiler:when O-Dog shoots the beggar for offering food in exchange for sexual favors, then offers the dead man's food bag to his friends.]]

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Even A-Wax is stunned by O-Dog's sociopathy [[spoiler:when O-Dog shoots the beggar crack addict for offering food sexual favors in exchange for sexual favors, drugs, then offers the dead man's food bag to his friends.]]

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* RealityEnsues:
** Being shot in the lungs is not a nice way to go. [[spoiler: Caine discovers this the hard way when Ilena's cousin and his friends use his chest as a shooting range, and leaves Caine laying on the ground, gasping for air and choking on his own blood in the most excruciating way possible.]]
** Caine during the interrogation scene without a lawyer present or even asking to speak to lawyer and the detective is able to take him apart with ease. Although it’s justified on Caine’s part because this was his first arrest and nobody ever taught him how to conduct himself in that type of situation.


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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Being shot in the lungs is not a nice way to go. [[spoiler: Caine discovers this the hard way when Ilena's cousin and his friends use his chest as a shooting range, and leaves Caine laying on the ground, gasping for air and choking on his own blood in the most excruciating way possible.]]
** Caine during the interrogation scene without a lawyer present or even asking to speak to lawyer and the detective is able to brown-beat and take him apart with ease. Although it’s justified on Caine’s part because this was his first arrest and nobody ever taught him how to conduct himself in that type of situation.
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* FamousLastWords: [[spoiler:"My grandpa asked me one time if I care whether I live or die. Yeah, I do. And now it's too late."]]
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Caine was carjacked at the beginning of the movie, BEFORE he carjacked the guy in the drive thru. So this would be an incorrect example of laser guided karma.


** Caine getting carjacked at a stoplight when he himself had just carjacked someone earlier.

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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: Caine finally decides to give up his life in the 'hood to start anew with Ronnie and Anthony in Atlanta. [[spoiler:Then Ilena's cousin murders him out of revenge.]]



* NameOfCain: The main character is a hood guy named Caine. While he's not as bad as his AxCrazy friend O-Dog, he still can't escape the culture of violence. The facial scars he gets as the film progresses also allude to the mark of Cain.

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* NameOfCain: The main character is a hood guy named Caine.young man from the 'hood, given the nickname "Caine". [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain Notably, he seems to hate it as a kid, but embraces it into his adulthood]]. While he's not as bad as his AxCrazy friend O-Dog, he still can't escape the culture of violence. The facial scars he gets as the film progresses also allude to the mark of Cain.


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* ProtagonistJourneyToVillain: Caine starts out as a young child, raised around and intrigued by the criminal lifestyle. As he grows up, he actively indulges in it and doesn't get his wake-up call until it's too late.


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** Ilena's cousin, ''who didn't even know who Caine was and had to ask'', and waltzed into a rival 'hood with no weapon nor backup. Cue the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown from Caine.
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The story centers around a street life thug named Caine (Tyrin Turner) and his friend [[HairTriggerTemper O-Dog]] (Creator/LarenzTate) living in the streets of Watts. Caine is a thug with a heart, and the opportunity to succeed, if the streets will let him. With a father (Creator/SamuelLJackson) that dealt heroin and a mother (Khandi Alexander) who was addicted to it, he had no chance as a child, and went to live with his grandparents. After graduating high school, a feat that none of his friends pulled off, he had choices to make, and although his heart was in the right place, he was stuck in the wrong time. Watch as he struggles with car jackings, murdered friends, taking care of a single mother (Creator/JadaPinkett) and her son, and a question that burns in the back of his mind, asked by his grandfather: "Do you care whether you live or die?" That answer doesn't come until it's too late.

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The story centers around a street life thug named Caine (Tyrin Turner) and his friend [[HairTriggerTemper O-Dog]] (Creator/LarenzTate) living in the streets of Watts. Caine is a thug with a heart, and the opportunity to succeed, if the streets will let him. With a father (Creator/SamuelLJackson) that dealt heroin and a mother (Khandi Alexander) (Creator/KhandiAlexander) who was addicted to it, he had no chance as a child, and went to live with his grandparents. After graduating high school, a feat that none of his friends pulled off, he had choices to make, and although his heart was in the right place, he was stuck in the wrong time. Watch as he struggles with car jackings, murdered friends, taking care of a single mother (Creator/JadaPinkett) and her son, and a question that burns in the back of his mind, asked by his grandfather: "Do you care whether you live or die?" That answer doesn't come until it's too late.
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The story centers around a street life thug named Caine (Tyrin Turner) and his friend [[HairTriggerTemper O-Dog]] (Larenz Tate) living in the streets of Watts. Caine is a thug with a heart, and the opportunity to succeed, if the streets will let him. With a father (Creator/SamuelLJackson) that dealt heroin and a mother (Khandi Alexander) who was addicted to it, he had no chance as a child, and went to live with his grandparents. After graduating high school, a feat that none of his friends pulled off, he had choices to make, and although his heart was in the right place, he was stuck in the wrong time. Watch as he struggles with car jackings, murdered friends, taking care of a single mother (Creator/JadaPinkett) and her son, and a question that burns in the back of his mind, asked by his grandfather: "Do you care whether you live or die?" That answer doesn't come until it's too late.

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The story centers around a street life thug named Caine (Tyrin Turner) and his friend [[HairTriggerTemper O-Dog]] (Larenz Tate) (Creator/LarenzTate) living in the streets of Watts. Caine is a thug with a heart, and the opportunity to succeed, if the streets will let him. With a father (Creator/SamuelLJackson) that dealt heroin and a mother (Khandi Alexander) who was addicted to it, he had no chance as a child, and went to live with his grandparents. After graduating high school, a feat that none of his friends pulled off, he had choices to make, and although his heart was in the right place, he was stuck in the wrong time. Watch as he struggles with car jackings, murdered friends, taking care of a single mother (Creator/JadaPinkett) and her son, and a question that burns in the back of his mind, asked by his grandfather: "Do you care whether you live or die?" That answer doesn't come until it's too late.
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''Menace II Society'' is a 1993 urban drama directed by the Creator/HughesBrothers (in their debut). Along with ''Film/BoyzNTheHood'', it is one of the defining films of the early '90s and helped popularize the urban crime drama.

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''Menace II Society'' is a 1993 urban drama HoodFilm directed by the Creator/HughesBrothers (in their debut). Along with ''Film/BoyzNTheHood'', it is one of the defining films of the early '90s and helped popularize the urban crime drama.
drama and the Hood Film.
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* EmpathyDollShot: [[spoiler:We see Anthony's big wheel upside down at the end, implying he was shot but it turned out Caine shielded him.]]
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* AnAesop: Never get yourself involved in gang activity. It will kill you.
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* BottomlessMagazines: During the scene in which Caine's father Tad murders the man stiffing him on paying him the money he's owed, he fires a total of eight shots into the guy's chest, despite him holding what appears to be a six-shot revolver.
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** Caine getting carjacked at a stoplight when he himself had just carjacked someone earlier.
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** When the detective catches Caine changing his story during the interrogation and tells him “You know you fucked up now. You know that right?” The look on Caine’s face says it all that he fucked up!!

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** When the detective catches Caine changing his story during the interrogation and tells him “You "You know you fucked up now. You know that right?” that, right?" The look on Caine’s face says it all that he fucked up!!all.
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* CentralTheme: Revenge is a recurring theme in the film, and it's never pretty.
** Caine's cousin Harold gets shot and killed by some thugs. Caine decides to get revenge once he's discharged from the hospital. He's never killed anyone before but is fully prepared to do so now. When he actually does the deed, he's not as satisfied as he initially thought, and it keeps him up at night.
** Caine beats up Chauncey for sexually harassing Ronnie in a drunken stupor. Chauncey responds by [[spoiler:selling out Caine and O-Dog to the police using the Korean store murder-robbery tape that O-Dog stupidly sold to him]].
** The cousin of Ilena, a girl Caine had a one-night stand with, comes to Caine's hood to confront him over ditching Ilena and his possible child. Caine beats the shit out of him, which encourages the cousin to grab some goons and come to Ronnie's house, resulting in [[spoiler:Caine and Sharif being murdered, and Anthony possibly being scarred for life]].
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* ClusterFBomb: More so than in ''Boyz n the Hood'', with a whopping 305 uses of "fuck"--at the time, even outdoing ''{{Film/Goodfellas}}'' by 5 f-bombs. (''{{Film/Casino}}'' would later outdo that film by '''117''' f-bombs.)

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* ClusterFBomb: More so than in ''Boyz n the Hood'', with a whopping 305 uses of "fuck"--at the time, even outdoing ''{{Film/Goodfellas}}'' by 5 f-bombs. (''{{Film/Casino}}'' would later outdo that film ''Menace'' by '''117''' f-bombs.)

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