History Film / LaRevolucionEsUnSuenoEterno

16th Oct '12 7:26:08 PM GrigorII
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective. In Argentina there are liberal historians, conservative historians, right-wing and far right historians, left-wing and far left historians; and they hold severe disputes about basically everything (specially Perón and Rosas). Everything... save for the Revolution. Nobody ever dares to mess with it. Each may say that it rules [[RightForTheWrongReasons for polar opposite reasons]], but nobody can actually condemn it.

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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective. In Argentina there are liberal historians, conservative historians, right-wing and far right historians, left-wing and far left historians; and they hold severe disputes about basically everything (specially Perón and Rosas). Everything... save for the Revolution. Nobody ever dares to mess with it. Each may say that it rules [[RightForTheWrongReasons for polar opposite reasons]], but nobody can actually condemn it.it.
* TranslationWithAnAgenda: There is a discussion between Manuel Belgrano, a lawyer from Buenos Aires, and Beresford, a British general held prisoner during the British invasion of Buenos Aires (1806). Belgrano speaks in Spanish and Beresford in English, so there's a third character doing the translation work. Beresford says, and the translator translates properly, that Buenos Aires is just a rogue colony of the British empire ([[AllThereInTheManual long story]]). Belgrano replies in Spanish "Dígale a este gringo de *** que se vaya a la re*** madre que lo remil ***" (with explicit insults, censored here just for good taste). The translator says "He says 'go to hell'".
** Of course, the insults are just an ArtisticLicense, there is no evidence that the real Belgrano replied to Beresford in such terms (or if he did, nobody would have wrote it down with that level of detail). In particular, some of the insulting words he used did not exist in 1810, and were created by Tango artists at the early XX century.
16th Oct '12 7:20:05 PM GrigorII
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* HowWeGotHere: The movie begins during the trial of Castelli, nearing his death. Everything else took place in the past.
16th Oct '12 7:06:08 PM TVRulezAgain
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* BestServedCold: Bernardo Monteagudo was present in the 1809 revolution of Chuquisaca (modern Bolivia). Most of his partners were executed by the Spanish when they reconquered the city, but he was just jailed, and got SurvivorGuilt. He joined the army of Castelli, and had his vengueance against the [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] (at least, that's how he saw them) that killed his friends, by taking part in their execution and mocking any DueToTheDead standards.

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* BestServedCold: Bernardo Monteagudo was present in the 1809 revolution of Chuquisaca (modern Bolivia). Most of his partners were executed by the Spanish when they reconquered the city, but he was just jailed, and got SurvivorGuilt. He joined the army of Castelli, and had his vengueance against the [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] monsters (at least, that's how he saw them) that killed his friends, by taking part in their execution and mocking any DueToTheDead standards.
2nd Jun '12 7:03:05 AM GrigorII
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective. In Argentina there are liberal historians, conservative historians, right-wing and far right historians, left-wing and far left historians; and they hold severe disputes about basically everything (specially Perón and Rosas). Everything... save for the Revolution. Nobody ever dares to mess with it.

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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective. In Argentina there are liberal historians, conservative historians, right-wing and far right historians, left-wing and far left historians; and they hold severe disputes about basically everything (specially Perón and Rosas). Everything... save for the Revolution. Nobody ever dares to mess with it. Each may say that it rules [[RightForTheWrongReasons for polar opposite reasons]], but nobody can actually condemn it.
2nd Jun '12 6:58:15 AM GrigorII
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective.

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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: Being the birth of Argentina, all those taking part in the May Revolution are automatically heroes under any Argentine perspective. In Argentina there are liberal historians, conservative historians, right-wing and far right historians, left-wing and far left historians; and they hold severe disputes about basically everything (specially Perón and Rosas). Everything... save for the Revolution. Nobody ever dares to mess with it.
2nd Jun '12 6:52:39 AM GrigorII
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* ArtisticLicense: Manuel Belgrano visited Castelli during the time he was prisoner and under trial, but he was not at his side when he died, he had already left to further military campaigns (remember that, beyond all the drama, there was still a war going on). Still, his presence allowed a cimax for Castelli's death that wouldn't be the same if he died alone or along a secondary and unimportant character.

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* ArtisticLicense: Manuel Belgrano visited Castelli during the time he was prisoner and under trial, but he was not at his side when he died, he had already left to further military campaigns (remember that, beyond all the drama, there was still a war going on). Still, his presence allowed a cimax climax for Castelli's death that wouldn't be the same if he died alone or along a secondary and unimportant character.
1st Jun '12 9:34:00 PM GrigorII
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* CommonTongue: Averted. Most characters speak Spanish, but when the plot requires the intervention of natives (who speak aymara) or a British general (who speaks English), we have a character doing the translation work. Castelli says something in Spanish, Agrelo translates to English, Beresford replies in English, Agrelo translates to Spanish. Exactly as it would be done in real life during the time period.
1st Jun '12 8:56:40 PM GrigorII
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* TheRemnant: Castelli in his last times (and Belgrano). Although the Spanish have not reconquered government, most heads of the May Revolution were displaced by internal factions, who exiled and/or trialed them.

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* TheRemnant: Castelli in his last times (and Belgrano). Although the Spanish have not reconquered government, most heads of the May Revolution were displaced by [[WeAreStrugglingTogether internal factions, factions]], who exiled and/or trialed them.
1st Jun '12 8:51:09 PM GrigorII
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* BestServedCold: Bernardo Monteagudo was present in the 1809 revolution of Chiquisaca (modern Bolivia). Most of his partners were executed by the Spanish when they reconquered the city, but he was just jailed, and got SurvivorGuilt. He joined the army of Castelli, and had his vengueance against the [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] (at least, that's how he saw them) that killed his friends, by taking part in their execution and mocking any DueToTheDead standards.

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* BestServedCold: Bernardo Monteagudo was present in the 1809 revolution of Chiquisaca Chuquisaca (modern Bolivia). Most of his partners were executed by the Spanish when they reconquered the city, but he was just jailed, and got SurvivorGuilt. He joined the army of Castelli, and had his vengueance against the [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] (at least, that's how he saw them) that killed his friends, by taking part in their execution and mocking any DueToTheDead standards.
1st Jun '12 8:49:44 PM GrigorII
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* TheRemnant: Castelli in his last times (and Belgrano). Although the Spanish have not reconquered government, most heads of the May Revolution were displaced by internal factions, who exiled and/or trialed them.
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